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need a better email app

the gmail works fine for the main email
but when connecting to secondary accounts the default app sucks WM was much better!!

Try K9...
K9 is a better POP3/IMAP client now available from the marketplace.

still can't select multiple emails to delete, or simply empty the trashcan.
2 absolutely essentials that are pissing me off.

I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.

Reeg said:
I just want to know if anyone has successfully gotten their Hotmail to work with the email client and how. This is really getting on my nerves.
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Unless you have Hotmail Plus it won't work.

Yes, I too would like to get hotmail working. Does anyone know of any new advances with getting it to work on the G1? I have hotmail plus and it still doesn't work. It always has a connection error and or it downloads about 15 of my oldest messages and then has a connection error?

maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program

let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.

aad4321 said:
OMG the email app sucks sooooo bad. like REALLY bad. No notifications, no auto update, always has to load mailbox. Bad layout, hard to tell what was read and what was not, wont foward a message properly untill the entire message has been downloaded to the phone... i can go on....
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ultraman69 said:
let me continue...
message saved as drafts remain in the drafts folder even after send the email out. connection errors galore. i've had messages will sit in the outbox for over 30 mins even though i have a connection and i can download new messages. can you even create folders for pop3? it is just crap, crap and more crap. google should be embarrassed.
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I think both of you have issues not related to the G1. They sound like it is a user issue. I get notifications, I had to check them on, It autoupdates (I choose 1 hour) The layout seems fine. I know what has been read and what has not. You really can't forward a message until you have read the entire message. That would be like me quoting your post before it posted to the forum. Gmail and Outlook both save my messages as drafts, if I go back to that message and send it, it is still saved in the draft folder. However Gmail takes it a step further and saves my messages as drafts every 5 minutes until I sent it or save it for good. Connection errors are because of the network, and Can also cause the messages staying in your outbox. In fact with POP3 messages can act weird even if it has nothing to do with the client. POP3 can't create folders it just downloads the actual message. You need IMAP which is a lot better and has a lot more options. I think that would help most your problems. And I would check to make sure that your servers are receiving the correct information along with checking your settings for the correct information also.

Please report bugs!
If you've found bugs in K-9, please report them to us at http://code.google.com/p/k9mail .
The code was originally based on the built-in android Mail application, but we're making pretty quick progress on bugs and features considering that we just stepped into this codebase.

i think you are basing your post on your gmail mail, i am refering to pop3 accounts in particular. i don't use gmail, but it seems that people are saying that it works for the most part.
i got notifications the first couple of days for my pop3 email, then it stopped working and unselecting and resetting the notification does not turn it back on. i believe this is a known issue.
in my desktop outlook, or pocket outlook and also thunderbird, when a message is in my drafts folder and i eventually send that message out, it is moved from my drafts to the sent folder. the message is sent, it is no longer a draft.
why wouldn't i be allowed to create folders for pop3 email? imap just auto creates the directory structure you have on your mail server.
yes, i do know that connection errors are due to connection errors, but when messages sit in my outbox, while i send test messages to myself and i can receive them, that is not due to my phone network errors.
i will go and log things i see...i hope to see an improvement.
thanks

I agree that the email client is the worst part of this phone
I use POP3 but I hear people complaining the same way about IMAP.
How about something simple e.g. number of bloody messages coming in.
"Load more messages"
What the hell does that mean ? When has there EVER been a load more messages prompt in an email program. I've been using email since back in the days of Pine and I always have a sense of how many messages are in my inbox. Apparently not for the G1.
No easy way to sort messages - and the connection errors just go without saying.
Nick

totally agree about the "load more messages".....why not give you an option to pick how many it loads by default.?..... senseless

Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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Don't need to hack it, gmail will push anything you want (well, most anything...)
--M

Henchman said:
maybe someone can hack the gmail push email program and create a universal push email program
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This works because of the software gmail uses... not the software on your phone.
Push is a server side implication, while Pull is client side. So if you find a way to Pull email as well as gmail can push than you are on to something.

At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy

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At least all of you are lucky enough to get your pop3 email setup. It won't even accecpt mine. I have Mediacom (mail.mchsi.com) and it won't even set my 2 mediacom email accounts up. Just says server connection error. My AT&T Tilt never had a problem setting these accounts up. Definately need something new for a pop3 email client. K-9 does the same thing as the default email client.
Shaggy
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are you using the correct ports?

I got it to work. I never had to use SSL before. Not even in Outlook for this account or on my WM6.1. But setting the G1 to SSL mail sever did the trick. Now I'm just disgusted with how it handles mail, slow, does not display stuff, won't delete, incorrect un-read messages, read messages mark themselves unread everytime it checks the mail. I hope RC31 brings relief to these and other mail troubles (too many to remember).
Shaggy

It has been perfect for my mail, are you using pop3?

this has been my main complaint from day one.
Worst email app ever.

Gmail supported Push mail now

Tested it is working fine.
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=winmo
Gmail sync. Get your Gmail pushed directly to your Windows Mobile device. Your inbox is always up to date no matter where you are, or what you're doing.

Can I use this 'WITH' my active sync on the PC...
i want to sync GMAIL (email), and my Outlook contacts, and local files... not Gmail contacts!! (gmail contacts are in thousands... all unsorted, some ppl who i emailed once, etc etc..) and Not google calendar..
any ideas etc?

Works exaclty as it should. If you have it already configured for contacts and calendar, just go in active sync options and check emails. Then delete your IMAP account settings on the device.
Works like a charm, finally !

hdaackda said:
Can I use this 'WITH' my active sync on the PC...
i want to sync GMAIL (email), and my Outlook contacts, and local files... not Gmail contacts!! (gmail contacts are in thousands... all unsorted, some ppl who i emailed once, etc etc..) and Not google calendar..
any ideas etc?
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My setup sounds like what you are trying to do. I sync my Outlook Contacts, Outlook Calendar, Outlook Notes, and files with ActiveSync by USB. I added an Exchange server to ActiveSync (on the phone) for my gmail. I ONLY checked email for the gmail account - NOT contacts, calendar, tasks, or anything else. Everything works perfectly. I still sync my calendar, contacts, notes & files with my desktop PC, and I get push email from gmail.
The gmail exchange server configured in ActiveSync did not mess with other (desktop Outlook based) sync settings.

Works great with me too, just a small annoyance... I dont want the emails I receive on the ppc and havent even seen yet, be marked as read on the server...
I checked the settings and theres no mention to that option...

Anyone knows the refresh rate for push email this way. I mean will you be noticed instantly upon receiving an email or will it sync with the server lets say every 15min or so???

thnks everyone... am trying it out now

I cant get the stupid calendar to work but the rest works great.... Is there anyways to have more then 1 email set up like this ?

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Anyone knows the refresh rate for push email this way. I mean will you be noticed instantly upon receiving an email or will it sync with the server lets say every 15min or so???
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^^
Instantly.. thts the concept of PUSh email...

Cyclops hammer said:
I cant get the stupid calendar to work but the rest works great.... Is there anyways to have more then 1 email set up like this ?
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Sadly no. This is a limitation of winmo: you can setup just one exchange server...

ok now that I switched to gmail push instead of imap I get the "Sent from my HTC Touch Pro2 etc..." I didnt have that with imap. Is there a way to change the footer?
Open up your email, click on menu, tools, then options then select signatures

I'm not being able to receive attachments with GMail activesync, even though I have set activesync to receive attachments less than 100KB.
What could be the problem?

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I'm not being able to receive attachments with GMail activesync, even though I have set activesync to receive attachments less than 100KB.
What could be the problem?
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try setting max msg size to 100 (or 200kb) and just click on receive attachments (without specifying size)..
i thnk tht shuld work.. will try it myself too

What version of active sync is Google using? 2003 or 2007?

6xxx emails in GMail, only can sync 171 emails ...
Is it possible to get all emails ?

What are people setting the "Send/Receive Schedule" to? I checked the box for e-mail on the exchange list but it's not pulling e-mail. My guess is that the time schedule is overriding it????

my emails are not syncing straight away, 5-10mins at times, then instantly at others...very odd
plus battery consumption is very high, anyone else similar experience

Winker-Omnia said:
my emails are not syncing straight away, 5-10mins at times, then instantly at others...very odd
plus battery consumption is very high, anyone else similar experience
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Well im just getting email every 15 minutes. So it is not actually getting pushed to me. Interesting enough my ipod touch is getting email pushed. (BTW im using WIFI for both HTC FUZE and ipod touch)
Do I need to disable forward IMAP in gmail? Im thinking not cause my ipod touch is getting pushed email.

I am unable to receive any HTML emails on my mobile via activesync (for gmail). My wm6.1 activesync settings for email are set to Download All emails from the past, Message format HTML and Download size limit 5 KB. The HTML emails are appearing in my winmo outlook inbox as 0KB in size (so I only receive the subject line). Anyone else experiencing this issue?

Ok guys, I have Miri v12 rom on my Touch HD and I tried to setup my gmail account on Activesync on the Vista Mobile Device Center and also directly on my Touch HD, with the help of this step-by-step guide http://bit.ly/5l5Rw , but in the end when I try to sync, it asks for my Exchange Server credentials, user pass and domain, but no go...
No matter if I put in username: [email protected] or simply in the username field I put the username and then in the domain field I put googlemail.com, It always end up asking me again for the credentials...
Can anyone help me? Am I doing something wrong? I've tried this on my actual rom and on another one, but no luck.

Dont suppose anyone can help me with my weird email problem!

I have a Nexus One working fine on Orange.
I use it for my Blueyonder email account which is set up just the same as it was on my Hero.
The problem is this:
I get the email notification to say i have new emails, then i go into my emails and the emails are there. Then it starts to refresh my emails and then before my eyes there all disappear! It deletes them before i have chance to read them.
If i then go onto my pc to check my emails there are none there. So its obviously deleting them from the server.
Now i have checked double and triple checked the settings.Its definitely not set to delete from server or even delete when read.
Any help will be appreciated as i dont know what is going on and I'm losing important emails.

I take it you are using the native email client?
Maybe this is not the answer that you are looking for but I use the Gmail App instead of the native Email client. That way I get the benefit of Push without having to refresh.
If you are interested in doing the same then all you have to do is..on your PC:
Gmail > Settings > Accounts and Import > Check mail using POP3: > Add POP3 email account.
Then all blueyonder emails will be pushed to the Gmail App and you can set a label for them as well.

Yes i am. I`m just upset that it doesnt work just like the Hero did. That was spot on..
I`ll try your idea if no one comes up with a solution for me. Cheers.

I agree with Abbsta... you should to add your blueyonder account to gmail and receive all your blueyonder emails in gmail account.
it is much easier and being a google phone it works well with gmail accounts...

I did what you said and its spot on cheers..

Just an update. Spoke to HTC had no idea why it was doing but suggested i use imap instead of pop3.
It worked!

Disappearing emails with Gmail(workaround)

I was having some setup issues with Gmail pop; I’ve found a workaround so thought I’d share it.
I like to check my email regularly with the HD2 throughout the day, but manage the majority of these through Outlook when I get home. So on my HD2 I set up a pop mail account to check my Gmail at regular intervals (5 mins), get the entire message but leave a copy of the message on the server so I can still access these with Outlook later.
Problem was whenever the HD2 downloaded an email despite the setup being configured to leave the message on the server these mails were marked “as read” by Gmail and archived, presumably because my Gmail account was set to “archive emails that have been accessed through pop”. This was clearly overriding the “leave a copy on the server” setting. So I’d get an email on my device, this was then automatically removed from the Gmail inbox and archived, 5 minutes later the HD2 would check again, see the inbox was empty and therefore delete the email from my device. Outlook never got a look in as when I got home all the emails had been archived so it was seeing no emails at all.
Hence the disappearing email problem.
Firstly I tried changing the Gmail setting to “keep Google mails copy in the inbox when it had been accessed by pop”, this worked to a degree but I found it slightly irritating having to go in and manually erase all the emails in my Gmail inbox once I had downloaded them.
I then tried enabling imap in Gmail and binning pop access altogether, i.e., accessing all my emails through imap both on the HD2 and on Outlook. Again this worked to a degree but I have Outlook set up a particular way and I found that imap didn’t really work for me in that regard.
Eventually I sussed getting it to work the way I want, I set up both pop and imap access in Gmail. I had the HD2 accessing mails through imap, and Outlook accessing through pop (with the setting for ” archiving emails once accessed through pop” enabled in Gmail). So the HD2 would accrue all the emails that I received throughout the day and keep these in the Gmail inbox so when I fired up Outlook at home these were still there to be downloaded. Of course once I had retrieved these emails through Outlook these were automatically archived by Gmail and only then were they removed from the HD2 then next time it checked the server, which was fine as they had been dealt with and were no longer required, perfect!
So that’s been my weekend really, hope it helps anyone that wants a similar setup.

POP is the wrong method for your interest.
POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it.
You only need to use IMAP method to leave a copy on the server.
Just that easy.
You could have saved a lot time if you only setup imap in your email settings in the phone.
All other stuff was completely too much. Sorry
Im using that method since i had the Touch HD and still use it with Gmail on the HD2 and my mails stay on the huuuuuuge google servers too.

Undoubtedly imap has its advantages, certainly on the phone its working well for me.
You did raise a point:
"POP catches the mails from your server and deletes em from it"
Should this happen when the you have set-up an account on the device thats configured to "do not delete messages from the server"? Because despite my account being set-up this way my emails were being deleted (or archived, either way, disappeared!) nevertheless. That's specifically why i wanted to detail why I did what I did as I'm sure this issue could catch other people out.

POP is designed to catch mails AND clean up your email account on the server.
This makes sense when you have limited storage space (i have an arcor account too and have only 25mb on there).
From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option.
This is mostly the reason that the emails get deleted when using POP.
IMAP is designed to give you the opportunity to have a look at your emails like on the server.
When you read an email on your pda the mail will be automatically flagged as read on the server too.
It is some kind of sync.
There are these two well known ways just to give you the opportunity and fulfil your needs. Just use the one that serves you well.
In your case this will be IMAP

"From my knowledge the client and server must support the "leave emails on server".
Look in desktop Outlook you have the opportunity to check a box with this option.
In our pda version of outlook we dont have that option"
When i was setting up the account on the HD2 I was ticking this option to leave message on server upon deletion (see screen shot), although it seems i was misunderstanding this function.

Yeah the function you checked was only for the deleted mails.
It just tells the server what to do with the mails that you deleted on your device.

Sounds good, I'd just replace imap access on the HD2 with activesync, even better.
I'm interested in what your "weird configuration in outlook that makes you not able to use imap" is though.

Gmail emails not deleting?

Hi everyone,
I have searched the forum for similar problems but can't find anything. I have my email set to check email every 15 minutes. Even after I delete the emails from my phone, when gmail is checked 15 minutes later, the emails return once again as "new". On the computer version of gmail, the emails are still unread in the inbox.
How can I set the "delete" on the email tab to actually get rid of the email? (preferable send the email to the archive function of gmail)
Thanks in advance.

anyone?????

I have the save problem

Use activesync (with push) instead of POP/imap, works perfectly.

Mine did the same thing until I changed my mail settings to say "delete from server" and also "immediately" if you don't change your delete settings to immediate then it wont actually erase the mail until the next time it connects and downloads it all over again.

GMAIL not deleting - Windows Mobile 6.5
I'm running WinMo 6.5 Cell ROM on a Touch Pro 2 from HTC.
I have exactly the same problem. I delete GMAIL messages from the Inbox on my handset. Next time the phone does a Send/Receive it brings down all the new mail again from the GMAIL server. Basically the handset is not marking mail as being deleted, nor is it marking the mail as read on the server.
I'm using GMAIL in MAPI/SMTP mode on the handset as this is what is accepted by default when setting up the GMAIL account on the device.
I've no experience of using ActiveSync/PUSH for mail. How do you set it up?

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I've no experience of using ActiveSync/PUSH for mail. How do you set it up?
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I use activesync to download all my messages from google, It also pulled my calendar and contacts to the handset too, I found the instructions by going to: wwwDOTgoogleDOTcom/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299 (wont let me post outside links, so Dot = .) Also on section 11 before syncing everything, I synced each item individually first then switched them all on as I was getting errors.

ActiveSync and PUSH MAIL for Google Mail is the best alternative for being able to hardly experience inbox and retrieval errors.

to delete emails go into your inbox and when you delete, use the left softkey (the bin icon) to delete and not the sense menu.

Gmail not syncing
I had the exact same issue. I searched forever until I found what worked for me. It appears to be an issue is you restore using nandroid. Here is the link on how to do it.
www(.)google(.)com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=113869
remove the () () of course.