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Guys, this is what I've been waiting for. :good:
Samsung just released it’s Android 4.1 Jelly Bean kernel source code for the LTE Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9305). Don’t confuse this device with the dual-core snapdragon S4 US Variant as this is the European LTE variant. GT-I9305 has the same Quad-Core Exynos 4412 CPU and the same ARM’s Mali-400MP GPU as the international Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300).The only differences are that the European LTE variant uses 2GB RAM instead of 1GB and has LTE Radios.
This means that 3rd party Android developers, like the CyanogenMod team, can use European LTE Galaxy S III’s (GT-I9305) Android 4.1 Jelly Bean kernel source code to fix major bugs like the Memory Leak, HW Composer and Mali GPU related issues they were having with the International Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-I9300) as these both devices are very much identical. This source code can vastly improve and improve their Custom ROMs.
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Source:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/09/19...e-code-for-lte-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-gt-i9305/
What do you think, best phone ever? If they would only pack it with a non-pentile-screen also, but at this point I can't say no any more, coming from my Arc S.
It will be interesting to see benchmark results and what difference the RAM might do.
The i9300 isn't the best phone now i9305 is...I don't under stand Samsung it been 4 month and release a better phone
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The i9300 isn't the best phone now i9305 is...I don't under stand Samsung it been 4 month and release a better phone
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My thoughts exactly. Seriously, what company releases a new model to replace their top of the line phone within 4 months of release. I love my Samsung phones but this is really bad form on Samsungs part.
Imagine if Apple releases the iPhone 6 in 4 months time. There will be riots. It won't happen. So much for resale value on the S3 i9300. Once stock runs out here in Oz it will no longer be sold. Replaced by the i9305.
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Frankly, this is what I expected the initial GS3 to be like. This and a non-pentile screen. Maybe old Sammy didn't finish LTE-integration in time for the GT-I9300, and maybe they packed it with only 1 gig RAM to save a few bucks. Idunno. Sorry to say, I think we're gonna have to live with 720-pen-tile 'til spring next year.
But this version is going to be... blistering! Especially after the buzz with launcher redraws due to lack of RAM, I'm looking forward to the comparisons. It comes in all-black as well.
I wonder what the coming Nexus will be based on. Do we dare to hope? I don't think Sammy will allow a copy of GT-I9305 as a Nexus, but man would it be nice.
Let's sit and wait for a release date.
If all GT-i9300 ROMs work on this i9305 then I'm sold instantly.
From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...
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From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...
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And battery I'll stick with the i9300 ram can be optimised and 4g isn't big yet
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And battery I'll stick with the i9300 ram can be optimised and 4g isn't big yet
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Well said.
Wonder if you'll be able to install apps to external SD on this one?
BS...
Didn't the iphone 4s come out like 5 or 6 months after the iphone 4? I know a few people swapped the 4 for the 4s.
I for one will be selling my s3 as soon as the s3 lte version comes out.
I was hoping it was out next week or thereabouts but it's looking doubtful.
This version will work on 3g network? I mean, o have a 9300 and i wanna change for 9305 but im not shure if will work on brasilian network.
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Didn't the iphone 4s come out like 5 or 6 months after the iphone 4? I know a few people swapped the 4 for the 4s.
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Difference was about 1 yr 4 months between releases. June 2010 to October 2011.
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From what i've heard LTE uses quite a lot of ram so that's why it's needed in the I9305 version...
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Most likely true, but the RAM will come in handy even when LTE is shut off.
brenogbi said:
This version will work on 3g network? I mean, o have a 9300 and i wanna change for 9305 but im not shure if will work on brasilian network.
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Yes, it will still work with 2G, 3G and 3.5G.
No it doesnt use that much ram it would use as much as the korean version and I have a screenshot showing 1.1gb Free Ram and thats with alot of tasks running. I have been waiting for this phone for over 1 month now its pretty old news, It was released in australia yesterday but its 16gb version so I am waiting for the 32gb which I will snap up straight away shouldnt be that much longer now.
And this will the the final release of the flagship phone before the S4 who cares why is everyone crying they releasing a better phone. Better for us we have more options now. I actually cant wait to get my hands on this one in my opinion this is how the original specs should look like finally they actually thought abit and released it
Because many people bought this phone outright for $800+ at launch
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No it doesnt use that much ram it would use as much as the korean version and I have a screenshot showing 1.1gb Free Ram and thats with alot of tasks running. I have been waiting for this phone for over 1 month now its pretty old news, It was released in australia yesterday but its 16gb version so I am waiting for the 32gb which I will snap up straight away shouldnt be that much longer now.
And this will the the final release of the flagship phone before the S4 who cares why is everyone crying they releasing a better phone. Better for us we have more options now. I actually cant wait to get my hands on this one in my opinion this is how the original specs should look like finally they actually thought abit and released it
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Its a nice phone and if I was in the market today I would get one instead of the i9300... 1.1g of free ram is nice, but frankly if you have that much "free" at any point in time its just wasted. Had zero multitasking issues with the i9300..
Don't worry guys.... after all releases of any Samsung models you will still go for whatever phone you want to buy...you will always be disappointed, that's how they control consumers... just think!!!
I thought we already know how this works!This people at Samsung sales are just laughing.... So why don't we just stay with what phone we have and maybe change it after 2 years, that's how it's suppose to be.
Except if you have a lot of money to spend with buying top of the line phones. Then go for it!
It was when there was a problem of getting a quad-core to work with a 4G LTE Chipset (Reason why all the American S3 's have dual-cores). They only were able to find a solution when they were testing the Galaxy Note 2. Since then, they can now get the new Quad-core into the Galaxy S3 with 4G. 4G also will use more RAM than its predecessor.
Even Apple tried to fix it, until recently they were able to fit the quad-core A6 chip into their iPhone5 with LTE. They could have put in a quad-core into their iPad 3, but didn't at the time cuz of the 4G / Quad-core incompatibility, instead they used the A5X (The original dual-core A5 processor hyper-threaded to a logical 4 cores) not a quad-core.
Well, now we're all gonna be getting more powerful quad-core powered phones with 4G!!!
wel I will let you know if its wasted ram or not when I get it I will report back. I also bought the l9300 But I didnt pay 800, Few hundred dollars less. And I will sell it after I buy the I9305, I will be out of pocket maximum $100 so I think that's a good deal.
hi guys, so im trying to figure this out, i've purchased a phone from bell before, which tursn out it wasnt that, and infact was a whole different model which is lesser than i thought i was buying...
so, im thinking of looking at that GALAXY S3 but i see theres a few models of it, or revisions, theres the i9300 which it might or might not be... or theres the newly released i9305 which it seems like LATELY they've been trying to advertise this phone so i almost thought it was the i9305... but its not
i called bell and asked them for what the "model number is" but she said, im not sure i think its " LT7416" which i find nothing on, go figure...
heres a link to it on their site, if it asks to select province then select bc i guess http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Galaxy-S3
now i know that the i9300 has a quad core cpu and 1gb of ram the 9305 has 2gb of ram with same quad core.... , which is what i'd like, yet somehow on bells site its advertising it to have 2 GB OF RAM with a 1.5ghz DUAL CORE what the heck?
now im thinking WTF how can bell falsely advertise a phone name when it is actually a total different model, my phone from them i thought was a galaxy W when its actually, guess what, a exhibit II
but yeah i want to get to the bottom of this, i want a quad core phone from bell, the S3 looks dreamy but only if its that i9300 model or a 9305 thanks all!
i want to add to this, i have found this phone by sprint, i would guess this to be the same type of phone up here from bell, its a 2gb ram 1.5 ghz dual core "galaxy s III" its clearly not the real deal, so what i up with this stuff happening? i want the REAL deal not a half assed version of it for the exact same price, as the full 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Sprint_id7099
now searching more i believe the common cheap model of the actual S3 here in canada is the " I747m"
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i want to add to this, i have found this phone by sprint, i would guess this to be the same type of phone up here from bell, its a 2gb ram 1.5 ghz dual core "galaxy s III" its clearly not the real deal, so what i up with this stuff happening? i want the REAL deal not a half assed version of it for the exact same price, as the full 1
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Sprint_id7099
now searching more i believe the common cheap model of the actual S3 here in canada is the " I747m"
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It has 2GB of RAM and LTE. I'm not sure why you think it's cheap. The dual core processor is still very impressive. You probably wouldn't know the difference.
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tietherope said:
It has 2GB of RAM and LTE. I'm not sure why you think it's cheap. The dual core processor is still very impressive. You probably wouldn't know the difference.
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I will agree with this since I own both
with ICS, I noticed a slight difference the international being more fluid and more smooth than the US/CA version. And other small differences, One did certain things better than the other and visa versa.
But I will say since I've been running JB on both (official on my 9300 and a leak on my US version) the little differences I did notice I no longer notice as much. Not that they were huge differences to begin with. Even on ICS the I could only notice the differences when I had them side by side. JB on the US version is VERY VERY smooth and fluid. Bell has had one JB leak and TMO has had 2 and honestly the 2nd JB leak for tmo was actually smoother than the last leak or two for the international.
Also it kind of sucks that codeworkx is no longer going to support exynos based devices because samsung is not releasing things needed for exynos development. I think he even told people that want a fully working CM10 on the GS3 with no memory leaks and fully working HW composer then to get a US gs3 because it will never fully work on the 9300 unless samsung man's up and releases what developers need.
interesting, well i just think its jewish of them some how, if i was to buy the phone out right it would cost me the same to get the same model with the quad vs the dual kinda thing
but i was just talking to a buddy of mine and he said he 2 months ago got his S3 off bell, and he says his is a 1 gb 4 core phone, so i said well get a phone info app and lets double check and he did and he said yeah it says 4 cores and 1 gig, so perhaps they are for some reason advertising it as a lesser phone than it actually is? fingers crossed
I think that is one **** thing about samsung, is they have so many different versions of the same phone. They should of Release the I9305 to EVERYONE and not made other revisions. So stupid of them
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interesting, well i just think its jewish of them some how, if i was to buy the phone out right it would cost me the same to get the same model with the quad vs the dual kinda thing
but i was just talking to a buddy of mine and he said he 2 months ago got his S3 off bell, and he says his is a 1 gb 4 core phone, so i said well get a phone info app and lets double check and he did and he said yeah it says 4 cores and 1 gig, so perhaps they are for some reason advertising it as a lesser phone than it actually is? fingers crossed
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Bell only has the dual core lte version of the galaxy s 3. If lte is available in your area, that would be the better choice for you.
I kinda wish I got that one instead, development for the international version so far has been disappointing.
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Hi guys! I'm looking for a good supplier of factory unlocked Galaxy S4 (Exynos 5) (probably SGH-I9500) from any country. Europe preferred.
Please leave your suggestions below. Thanks in advance.
Expansys or Negri.
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this can go in the Q&A section
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Expansys or Negri.
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Thank you! Expansys only have GT-I9505 (Qualcomm), but Negri has a decent price. Any other options?
cormogram said:
Thank you! Expansys only have GT-I9505 (Qualcomm), but Negri has a decent price. Any other options?
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Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
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What I've found up to now are:
GT-I9500 Negri $798.50
GT-I9500 Expansys-USA $799.99
GT-I9500 techno.trading(ebay.com) $797.97
GT-I9505 Best Buy $750.00 (with no activation)
Including FedEx 2-day shipping the lowest cost is from Negri, but Best Buy offer cheaper, although limited+bloated crap, operator versions.
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Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Does the Octa really worths so much for you. Compare the phones before choosing. Getting Octa you probably will pay $100 more than Snapdragon for almost no differences.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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4 x A15 (2.2GHz MAX whitesheet)
4 x A7 (1.6GHz MAX whitesheet)
Kernel 3.9 (Linaro Patches should become core components) allowing for native HMP. User configurable XULV for battery (run on one A7 ...) or XHP (run on all 8 cpus) or anything in between.
that $100 is an investment in a ceiling that has me personally geekin out. I cant convince you personally, but if Android 5.0 or 5.1 makes the jump to 3.8, its possible to patch the kernel and reap the benefits. someone would have to work their tail off on an AOSP and lose all the customizations to android by samsung, but raw potential, has the 600 way short for a sheer value proposition, increased usability over time.
ps: plus they gave EVERYONE ddr3 ... no one mentions this in the comparisons to the one, i believe however that the Z/ZL also have ddr3 sony made that a point of emphasis. always the plastic ... but no one says anything about the Ones slow ram
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4 x A15 (2.2GHz MAX whitesheet)
4 x A7 (1.6GHz MAX whitesheet)
Kernel 3.9 (Linaro Patches should become core components) allowing for native HMP. User configurable XULV for battery (run on one A7 ...) or XHP (run on all 8 cpus) or anything in between.
that $100 is an investment in a ceiling that has me personally geekin out. I cant convince you personally, but if Android 5.0 or 5.1 makes the jump to 3.8, its possible to patch the kernel and reap the benefits. someone would have to work their tail off on an AOSP and lose all the customizations to android by samsung, but raw potential, has the 600 way short for a sheer value proposition, increased usability over time.
ps: plus they gave EVERYONE ddr3 ... no one mentions this in the comparisons to the one, i believe however that the Z/ZL also have ddr3 sony made that a point of emphasis. always the plastic ... but no one says anything about the Ones slow ram
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Thanks for the info shadym1lkman! You mean that with kernel 3.9 we'll be able to use the 8 cores simultaneoulsy?
What about the cooling? I've been having overheating issues since Galaxy S2...
Ty for the info shadym1lkman. But as cormogram said, I think that the phone will melt in your hand. On the other side, I can buy other phone or wait for Tegra or something else, but I like Samsung features. I would like to lose them.
Related with the ram, both version have LPPDDR3, but as I read, in Octa is at 800Mhz, which makes it work at 12.8gb/s, a bit more faster than the S600. But right now, the difference is insignificant
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Ty for the info shadym1lkman. But as cormogram said, I think that the phone will melt in your hand. On the other side, I can buy other phone or wait for Tegra or something else, but I like Samsung features. I would like to lose them.
Related with the ram, both version have LPPDDR3, but as I read, in Octa is at 800Mhz, which makes it work at 12.8gb/s, a bit more faster than the S600. But right now, the difference is insignificant
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the HTC One does not have DDR3.
shadym1lkman said:
the HTC One does not have DDR3.
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I didn't know that. Well, that's one of the reasons S4 wins the battle with HTC One. Thanks for the info again
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I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?
dli7319 said:
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9500-galaxy-s-iv-64-gb-unlocked-black-mist.html#.UYhQTrXvt1E
Why do you want the exynos one?
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Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).
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whiteblazer01 said:
Thanks for the link!
I want the latest and greatest because it'll make me feel better about myself and will hopefully make me be accepted by others.
In all seriousness, I've been reading reviews and comparisons, and although the performances are very close, I'm concerned about ... I can't think of the term, but "un-upgradable" after 6-12 months. I'm currently using a Samsung Droid Charge from 2011, and while it was a nice and capable phone then, it still functions as a nice phone now. Only problem is I've reached a ceiling as far as upgradability. I am stuck with Android v2.3.6 (Eclipse ROM), while "current phones" are running Android 4.2+. I'm a very heavy user of the phone and many of its features, and find that I'm often coming across performance issues.
That's just a brief reason why I'd prefer to get the Exynos version. I'm open to suggestions, but I certainly don't want a USA carrier-branded/bloated/locked version. Those days for me are over (the proverbial ball and chain are gone).
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Team hacksung,
the team behind all the s3/s2/note2 ports of cm have pledged not to work with exynos hardware, and Cyanogen himself who used to work at Samsung is only supporting qualcomm galaxy s4s, the performance difference is honestly negligible, and without fm radio, there is no benefit (if any a con) to get the international s4, Cyanogen currently works on a tmobile galaxy s4 btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39255132&postcount=27
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I was actually considering that as a reason not to get the Exynos, and since the performance is negligible, I just might get the quad-core, for the sake of customizability and upgradability. Seems to be a waste of potential technological opportunity.
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Keep in mind that gsm phones won't work on Verizon, highly suggest you switch to tmobile's $30 plan
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Oh, right. I forgot, the Droid Charge is a Verizon-branded phone. I haven't had Verizon since shortly after I got the phone, but I'm still using the phone... offline (complicated story).
I'll be using a different carrier while in the USA (without a contract), as I'll be traveling to other countries, so Verizon wouldn't be an option anyway.
At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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I'll tell you why...
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At $890, you could literally buy a 16GB Nexus 4 And a 32 GB nexus 10, or a 64gb htc one and many accessories (wifi hdd), or 2 nexus phones, just keep in mind that the s4 is only the best by spec, the htc one has better speakers and screen and build quality plus it is already out and $200 cheaper, feel free to wait for the s4 if you are set on it but it is priced to much like a iPhone IMHO
And you have a proper warranty when buying a htc one since it isn't a grey import
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Because the Samsung has a replaceable battery along with the memory card slot. I use my phone for my business and I CANNOT be strapped to a charger all day. Being able to swap batteries in the middle of the day, no matter where I am, makes Samsung the only viable game in town. You can keep your shiny cool aluminum sealed cell phone. I'll take the good 'ole removable plastic backed one every time.
OK, btw I have a s3 and I understand the convenience of removable batteries and storage
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You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.
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You have to keep in mind that we're in a non-US phone forum. It also happens to dwarf all US S3 forums in terms of development. What I mean by that is although CM may be working on the US version, I'm pretty sure there's going to be a huge contingent of devs for the Exynos version. Just take a look at the AT&T or T-Mobile forums for the Note2 or S3. They don't have any dev support. AndreiLux, my fav dev, has already committed to the Exynos.
Personally, I don't care for CM. It's my personal opinion that CM is best suited for lower-end phones that need the purity of Android without the bloatware because of limited tech specs. If you have a beastly S4 or HTC One, why bother.
My advice would be to get a 16GB Exynos and wait until the development starts happening. Also get ready for 128GB Micro SD Cards. I hear they're rolling out first half of this year.
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I respect your opinion but as I see it, pure Android is faster, slimmer and overall technically better, meanwhile Touchwiz is more consumer oriented and has several quirks and bugs.
Since we are in a developer-oriented forum, several folks will want that. It never hurts to have wider support/more options.
And AOSP in a beastly phone runs even better.
I wouldn't bet on the Exynos version, not many developers will join the fray after all the BS Samsung has pulled recently, and their dismal support of their own SoC
Since you namedropped him: Andrei has mentioned some valuable things about the Octa that might help steer the decision one way or another (he has the Octa variant):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41125997&postcount=4
Qualcomm has great resources for developers and is widely accepted. Most likely the next Nexus devices will be based on the latest Snapdragons.
Edit: @ OP: You might wanna read the S4 forums for a while, there are some issues with the screen for some folks. Just to make sure you have it in mind
OT: Glebun, go mini-mod somewhere else, please. Your posts serve no purpose in this context for more than adding 1 extra post to your count.
That's what the report button is for, if you reply, you give a thread more relevance - which is counter intuitive to the whole purpose of your post.
I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!
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I didn't even know you could get the S4 in 64GB so soon. Some websites were saying that only the 16GB version is available right now. Or maybe they were talking about the US-variant.
I read somewhere that the octa-core version will get a software update which will increase performance by 10%. Here's the link; http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
On a blazing fast phone (which is blowing all the benchmarks out of the water), a 10% increase in performance is significant!!!
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Technically you can already get that performance by using the A15s only.
My guess is that the performance improvement statement is rather a bad understanding of the graph, the point that they were trying to make is that HMP should bring the performance advantages of running solely on A15s at the reduced power consumption of CPU migration.
HMP should get the same full performance at 50% less power consumption, according to those figures and that specific scenario.
The author of the article was overreaching on his statement, it does not mean is a general improvement or a performance unlock.
I guess whatever the case, they'll certainly be bringing an increase in power. That's good news for all (those on the Snapdragon processor shouldn't complain since that is already quite fast)!
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I'm currenty in the USA, and travel internationally. I'd like to get the S4, but can't seem to find a source for an OEM, unlocked, 64GB Octo-core version. Does anyone know where I can purchase one? Some sites have the Octo-core but only 16GB, or they have the 64GB but only the quad-core. I'm not one to upgrade my phone every 2 weeks (sarcasm), so this will be an investment for me. No carrier-branded versions, or locked ROMs (I do flash my phones).
Thanks!
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But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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dante501 said:
But the octa core will not have lte. The only one that will the Korean version but the other octa cores won't have lte if you want lte then you need to get the snapdragon version.
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Is having LTE only a concern in the USA? How about Europe (outside GB) and Central America? If one travels and lives outside the USA, what would be recommended (for a 64GB Galaxy S4)? I realize this is an American based forum, but I also know there are a lot of people with insight into international phone variants, different frequency bands, and international carriers (which is not my area of expertise).
Just an update, I've contacted Negri Electronics and Expansys, (UnlockedMobiles and Handtec only seem to offer the 16GB version), as they seem to be the few websites that actually have the 64GB Octo-core unit on their website. Nobody seems to have this in stock, and they all say they're waiting on more information from Samsung regarding availability. So it seems a 64GB Octo-core GS4 is nowhere to be found.
After doing some research, it's likely that Samsung will release another S4 variant with Snapdragon 800 internationally. Currently, that top-of-the-line model is restricted to Korea, but i think that come IFA in September, things might change.
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_800_samsung_galaxy_s4_benchmarked_vs_octa_model-news-6284.php
There are already several sellers on eBay supplying the S800 version. For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korea-Editi...1265240201?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cd49f3089
So, what do you guys think? Are we going to get dev support on that S800 if it's released internationally?
In case it's not released internationally, will XDA bother to create a developer forum for it (since quite a few people might be tempted to import their own S4 S800 from eBay sellers)?
My predictions for IFA 2013; Samsung will introduce Note 3 (nothing new here, as it's all been confimed with leaks) but then we might be surprised to find an international release for an S4 S800 variant as well as an S4 Active S800 variant.
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After doing some research, it's likely that Samsung will release another S4 variant with Snapdragon 800 internationally. Currently, that top-of-the-line model is restricted to Korea, but i think that come IFA in September, things might change.
http://www.gsmarena.com/snapdragon_800_samsung_galaxy_s4_benchmarked_vs_octa_model-news-6284.php
There are already several sellers on eBay supplying the S800 version. For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Korea-Editi...1265240201?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cd49f3089
So, what do you guys think? Are we going to get dev support on that S800 if it's released internationally?
In case it's not released internationally, will XDA bother to create a developer forum for it (since quite a few people might be tempted to import their own S4 S800 from eBay sellers)?
My predictions for IFA 2013; Samsung will introduce Note 3 (nothing new here, as it's all been confimed with leaks) but then we might be surprised to find an international release for an S4 S800 variant as well as an S4 Active S800 variant.
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I think yes, but for gn3 I prefer t4, because is more Power. Rumors said, 3g=exynos 5420 4g=s800
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I was just about to make this thread, I'm glad someone is having the same thoughts as me.
Yeah I'm somewhat worried about the recent news regarding the AOSP maintainer who recently resigned over Qualcomm being extremely protective over the GPU driver sources for the new Nexus 7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but so far haven't Qualcomm been very good to the developer community regarding source code etc?
With the Snapdragon 600 version of the S4, there is always the Google version to fall back on. I remember having the first SGS and having a Nexus device (I know the S4 G isn't a Nexus device), that was so close to the SGS in hardware really helped kernel developers out.
At the moment, I'm erring on the side of caution with regards to the S800 version. I'd much rather have a slightly slower device in synthetic benchmarks (almost unnoticeable in the real world) and excellent dev support backed by a very clean version of the OS, from the Google Edition phone, than a slightly faster device with buggy rom and poor dev support.
I'd really like to hear from an android developer here as to quite what the problems with the S800 version might be. It is hard for me to give a fully reasoned judgement when I know little about what precisely is required to port something like AOSP / CM to a device.
I think the S800s real asset is the adreno 330. Otherwise, the cpu difference is probably even less than what you see from S3 exynos 4412 to snapdragon S4 pro.
If gaming is very important for you, then go for the S800. It will very likely receive less dev support (see galaxy S plus vs galaxy S), but has a stronger CPU/GPU combination. Unless you want to test out AOSP some point in the future, I do not think you would lose much from S800. Besides, why would you want to mod the S4 that much anyway, it's already pretty sick running stock.
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Finally, here is the confirmation that something is indeed happening (for international release) with the S4 and S800:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Inte...E-A-and-Snapdragon-800-visits-the-FCC_id46502
Watch out for the announcement around IFA 2013.
In the coming weeks and especially after launch, the debate will gain momentum about buying better specs (i9506) v/s better dev support (i9505).
I think that the S600 variant remains more suited - it has more direct support from the AOSP ROM of the i9505G (S4 GE) and i highly doubt that the S4 GE ROM will work directly on the S800 version. The S800 architecture is different/improved on S600, and the Adreno 330 is an entirely different beast altogether. So, unless Samsung releases an i9506G (S800 GE variant, which i doubt will happen as there is already one S4 GE variant and it wouldn't make any sense to release more GE of the same phone!) i would still bet my money on the i9505. And you should prefer the better dev support model too, since you're reading this off of XDA!
In my opinion, the S800 is just a publicity stunt as the original S4 no longer has the fastest chipset, so Samsung is making up for it against its competitors by releasing an S800 variant. Most countries don't have LTE-A and there's always going to be a better, faster, more power-efficient device. IFA will continue this legacy (other than S4 variants, we'll get the Note 3 and Sony's Honami).:cyclops: