Hi...
So, I've opened up Nook Color Tools and clicked All Settings in order to find out more about my Nook.
Are these findings normal?
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The battery seems to drain quite quickly too, yesterday I've fully charged it, now this? Using wifi all the time, I've sent some emails with gmail and tried browsing web and failing
Stock 1.1.0, FT1.5-beta5'ed.
From my experience that is normal for a nootered nook. I unrooted my nook and did a manual root and did not install any Google apps, or any other un-need junk. Now granted i have ADB install stuff but my battery life is unchanged. What ever get installed with the Gapps and other just runs the battery use threw the roof.
So to answer you question yes that is normal for the automated roots.
Thread being moved to general.
This is not a mod, ROM or kernel.
I disagree; the issue seems related to nootering. but I could've started this in the nooter thread so maybe you could move this into the MinimalTouch1.5-beta5 thread for I believe it's clearly a mistake - how can there be 70% battery usage of cell standby, if the nook doesn't have a cell radio?
How does this application measure it's battery usage, what is "cell radio" - is it an app, like Phone.apk ?
Is it registered?
If found that my nook only lasted a couple of days unregistered, three weeks ago I registered it, haven't charged it since.
from what i learned what ever nootering does or installs makes android look for cell signal or maybe just try to send signal. I tried all the suggestions i delete the phone.apk plus a dozen others. but what i learned was these apk were always there. the issue was that once you nootered something starts to try to use them or keeps them awake. My battery life was about 3 days.
I tried the registration thing as well.
All i know is i unrooted my nook. then did a manual root. turned on adb wireless. Installed superuser, busybox, then manual installed apps by adb installing them, and my battery life is that of an unrooted nook. I have no Google apps installed. or any of that other junk. I'm not sure which app causes the issue but what ever it is it is part of the nooter not because of it being rooted.
betterbatterystats
rm phone and dialer apks
freeze gapps when not in use and anything else if possible
bad apps prevent sleep - analyse with bbs
all this due to Google's dalvik, which isn't handling wakelocks or enabling us to do it manually. only way is to guess and disable things at the moment. effects all android phones and the main reason why iPhone with its crippled single tasking works better
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Since a Cell Radio doesn't actually exist, there is no actual data for Cell Radio, therefore Battery Statistics displays the wrong info, however the reason your nook is dying so fast if I had to reason based on your screen shots, is because you're leaving your Wifi on which is taking up a good portion of your battery.
Nootering doesn't make the device actually try to use the Cell Radio or any such thing, the stuff has always been there, and if you manually rooted by using a hacked APK and installing nook color tools, you would find that "Cell Radio" still contains the most "Battery" usage despite the fact it's not actually using any battery.
Another thing to keep in mind is when you've used Nooter and installed Gapps and stuff (and you leave your Wifi on) you'll have significantly less battery life, because it's doing all the data updates for Gmail, and any other apps you've also installed. This therefore causes it to use your Wifi more, and waste battery life. This isn't just a "Nook" thing, this is true for all android devices, if you have Apps that need to use Data to get updates, and they're getting the updates all the time you'll find you have significantly less battery life.
Normally on a normal android device we'd have access to Accounts & Settings, which would allow us to access options for setting when Data Sync happens, but on the nook you don't have such options. So therefore they happen (probably) every 15 minutes. This causes your battery life to go down.
To remove the "Cell Radio" from the battery statistics bit you can delete/freeze/rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk
Note: This has no affect what so ever on your battery life, it only removes Cell Radio from battery statistics so you get a more accurate reading.
Move them using this:
Code:
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
adb shell mv /system/app/Phone.apk /system/app/Phone.OLD
adb shell mv /system/app/TelephonyProvider.apk /system/app/TelephonyProvider.OLD
adb reboot
To undo this use:
Code:
adb shell mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
adb shell mv /system/app/Phone.OLD /system/app/Phone.apk
adb shell mv /system/app/TelephonyProvider.OLD /system/app/TelephonyProvider.apk
adb reboot
I figured as much, and wanted to share this info here, but you already beat me to it
Nonetheless, like you wrote above, I do not need Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk - there's com.android.phone running in the background which I do not need.
It could however be waking up the device from deep sleep a lot, and it's not necesarily WiFi - B&N claims 3 weeks of WiFi on usage so with background processes, I think I should be able to pull at least a week.
Bear in mind that WiFi turns itself off with screen off, at least that's how it's configured out of the box.
So far, I kicked Phone and TelephonyProvider, will see if anything improves.
ps shows this:
app_31 1218 1205 636 328 c0246930 afe0c74c S /system/bin/logcat
app_31 1220 1205 636 328 c0246930 afe0c74c S /system/bin/logcat
How can I check what app is app_31 ?
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app_31 1218 1205 636 328 c0246930 afe0c74c S /system/bin/logcat
app_31 1220 1205 636 328 c0246930 afe0c74c S /system/bin/logcat
How can I check what app is app_31 ?
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The parent PID of 1218 and 1220 is 1205 (third column).
When you check that it will undoubtedly show /sbin/adbd, the ADB demon.
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So, I've noticed for a few days that my uptime equals my awaketime. So, my phone is not sleeping properly (poor Incredible!).
I uninstalled ALL my apps and my phone still won't sleep. Don't use a Task Killer - only Task Panel with one app on auto kill but Task Panel has never made my phone not sleep before - even after uninstalling it I've continued to have the problem. Autosync off, GPS off, wifi off.
It must be an internal thing.
I have SkyRaider 2.5 (came from 2.2 yesterday), stock kernel, 2.15 radio. My phone has slept before with SkyRaider and no other users of SkyRaider report their battery not sleeping.
Can anyone help me pin-point the cause of this? I would be very appreciative.
Edit: only thing I could find is that Spare Parts and my BatteryLeft said UID 10018 was taking 100% of my Partial-wake time. I searched for UID 10018 but can't find anything
Edit:. Found this on a webpage
I/ActivityManager(*1540):*Start*proc*com.android.alarmclock*for*broadcast*com.android.alarmclock/.AlarmInitReceiver:*pid=1656*uid=10018*gids={}
In Settings -> Sync and Accounts. Make sure that things aren't continuosly syncing. I was having that problem with Facebook sync and Gmail. (Always had the Sync icon in the notification bar)
I'm on skyraider 2.5.2 and facebook 1.3.2
I *was* seeing the same thing. I looked at services and saw that a Facebook service was running. I closed and let my phone sleep for 15 seconds. Now my awake time is less than up time.
** shakes fist @ Facebook service **
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Auto sync is not continuous, even when I disable it completely my battery still drains.
Facebook services aren't the problem.
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What does it say in Setting -> About -> Battery -> Battery Use?
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Android sys 39%
Cell standby 18%
Wifi 18%
Display 14%
Phone idle 11%
Also, spare parts battery usage says Running is 100%
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Sorry I was at work the whole day. Could you download "Android Terminal Emulator" from the market. Open it and type, "top -n 1 > /mnt/sdcard/top.txt" then ENTER. This creates a top.txt file on your sdcards root directory. Could you post the output of that here?
You said UID (User identifier)... you sure you don't mean PID (Processor identifier)?
For the record, I'm learning here as well. Just trying a few things that might help.
In Fairnees to Batteries
I have been beating my Incredible to death with updates and changes over the past few days. No wonder Battery Life has bee miserable.
I just bought the Incredible from Craig's List for a very cheap price, previous owner loaded a ROM and lost all external communications, Communicationly(sp) bricked...
Thanks to this forum I was able to un-brick the phone in about 1 hour, since then neither Incredible or I have had much down time.
I think I will wait until the newness wears off and determine how battery life will really be under normal usage.
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Sorry I was at work the whole day. Could you download "Android Terminal Emulator" from the market. Open it and type, "top -n 1 > /mnt/sdcard/top.txt" then ENTER. This creates a top.txt file on your sdcards root directory. Could you post the output of that here?
You said UID (User identifier)... you sure you don't mean PID (Processor identifier)?
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Sorry. I just did a complete wipe and reinstalled sky raider and all my APPS and my phone sleeps now. Nor sure what the problem was.
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For me personally, I had issues with my device staying awake 100% and the problem was Flickr. Once I removed the account, everything went back to normal.
I suppose we are lucky to have enough sense to use apps like Spare Parts to check on these things, but I pity the Android phone user who has no knowledge of these things and end up with a phone that dies after 4 hours.
I had this problem as well and spent days trying to figure out the cause. For me, it was a clock widget I was using. Apparently, it continued to update the clock time every second, even when my phone was locked, stopping it from going to sleep.
For me it was the LED Clock widget. I actually ended up rewriting the widget myself so I could use something like it but still let my phone sleep. I think I noticed the same issue with the Digital Clock Widget, but I'm not entirely sure.
Might not be your problem, but it was the last thing I thought of and the culprit.
My wife just got the phone...goes from 100% at 10pm to 0% at 6am.
From 100% at 7am to 30% at 12pm...
Simple use (phone call, screen on while searching for stuff on the phone, not online) will bring the battery down about 1% a minute...
What's the deal??? It's been doing this straight out of the box...
what have you guys (and gals) done to truly stretch the battery out?
I can run my HD2 with Android, and it lasts me at most 2 days without charging...she can't go 1/2 day without the battery arleady telling her it's low.
also, she's been getting these "memory full" messages--again, we haven't loaded any programs other than maps, jorte, something simple...
how much memory does this phone come with, and why would a message not allowing her to even send a text message come about? No. she's not a heavy texter--but even then, her 5 year old Jitterbug of a phone did just fine with over 1 1/2 years of texts...
Getting pretty frustrated with the phone--battery life, full memory, and all...
By the way, I did root the phone, and went to the systems folder to try and delete bloatware, but it didn't allow me to...tips?
Thank you for reading my rant...
Same problem here
I have the same problem with my FlipSide. Had it for about a month before I got the "Low memory" warnings, but definitely the battery life sucks ... lasts a day if I'm lucky. At first I was doing soft resets to get rid of the memory warnings, but then they became more and more prevalent, until finally I had to do a factory reset. Fortunately, motoBlur (using gmail account) backed up all of my contacts and most of my preferences. All I had to do was re-install the apps from the Marketplace and update a few remaining prefs. But I would certainly not rec this phone to anyone.
telegraph0000 said:
My wife just got the phone...goes from 100% at 10pm to 0% at 6am.
From 100% at 7am to 30% at 12pm...
Simple use (phone call, screen on while searching for stuff on the phone, not online) will bring the battery down about 1% a minute...
What's the deal??? It's been doing this straight out of the box...
what have you guys (and gals) done to truly stretch the battery out?
I can run my HD2 with Android, and it lasts me at most 2 days without charging...she can't go 1/2 day without the battery arleady telling her it's low.
also, she's been getting these "memory full" messages--again, we haven't loaded any programs other than maps, jorte, something simple...
how much memory does this phone come with, and why would a message not allowing her to even send a text message come about? No. she's not a heavy texter--but even then, her 5 year old Jitterbug of a phone did just fine with over 1 1/2 years of texts...
Getting pretty frustrated with the phone--battery life, full memory, and all...
By the way, I did root the phone, and went to the systems folder to try and delete bloatware, but it didn't allow me to...tips?
Thank you for reading my rant...
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I don't know what your exact issue is.... but if you search thru the market and find link2sd... and follow the instructions... you can deal with the memory issue...
Second... i use juicedefender... it lets me get thru most of the day on one charge... though if i use slacker or pandora i have to charge during the day...
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Awesome. link2sd works wonders. Thanks.
YES - juicedefender works wonders .... on my second day of battery life now and still "in the green" !!
what settings do you have to make it last that long?
I'm amazed that with so many people that made the choice for a Flipside (based on thread views) that no one has come up with a Blur free rom as of yet...
try using something called links2sd too....helps with memory issue
The problem with the memory filling up, aside from the dreadfully small amount we have to start with, is there's some bug in the rom that steadily builds /data/local.prop.bak until it fills the entire /data partition. As far as I can tell, the process that does this is using a pretty ridiculous amount of cpu as well, the phone often is physically hot to the touch because of it.
My workaround, which isn't for everyone, is to just open a command line when I first boot the phone, erase local.prop.bak and replace it with a 0-bye file, change the permissions to 000 and owner to root, and then kill the process. It only takes a minute, and can be done from a terminal app on the phone. On a reboot, it needs to be done again, but I rarely have to reboot my phone, and I often go 36-48 hours between charges now.
I'm extremely frustrated that we haven't seen a software update, either to address this common issue or upgrade us to something newer than 2.1. 168mb of app space is simply unacceptable, especially on a phone with no option to move stuff to SD built in. My poor original MyTouch 3G had more space, it's just ridiculous.
Do you have an exact walkthru on how to do this?
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Sure! Open a terminal on the phone, or adb shell into it.
su
cd /data
rm local.prop.bak
echo > local.prop.bak
chown root.root local.prop.bak
chmod 000 local.prop.bak
I find that this sometimes makes a related process run away with 100% cpu. From the command prompt, run "top" and check to see if there's something eating all the cpu, I forget the exact name of the process but I'll edit this next time I reboot my phone. Mine typically has a PID of 1499, but individual phones may be different. Once you find the PID, run "kill <pid>" (ie, "kill 1499") and it shouldn't restart.
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So, a bit of an update... I noticed my local.prop was something ridiculous like 16mb, so I decided to take a look at it... It seems like it's getting corrupted also, so I wiped out everything unreadable, and this solved my issue with the growing local.prop.bak file. It seems like it's growing again, so it's something that'll need to be dealt with on a regular basis, but at least it's not needed on every reboot. I'm tempted to do a fresh reinstall from the .sbf and back up the original file, so I can see what exactly should be there.
hey guys! ive already posted a couple threads asking these questions, but since none of them got even as much as one answer, i thought id post one thread with all the questions i have for one last time, hoping someone might be able to answer at least one of them. so, here we go:
1) ive found that on froyo kernel the max brightness of the display is much less bright than on eclair kernel, but ive found a way to change that:
Code:
echo 1 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/als
echo 255 > /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness
chmod 555 /sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/als
this makes the phone unable to change the brightness by itself, but when i turn the screen off, it doesnt turn completely off, but a black backlight stays on, thus seriously draining battery. is it possible to have the eclair max brightness level without this draining issue?
2) i have a custom 2300mah battery, but for some reason the phone reads it only as 500mah, making it seemingly drain to 1% in a few hours, and it remains usable for about a day on 1%. noticed that in some previous ics nightlies by eppy with the touch enabled bootmenu, there was a battery bar at the bottom showing my battery percentage correctly. is there a way to make the os show the percentage just the way it does in the bootmenu?
3) i use apex launcher in ics as a system app, but this makes me have to reinstall and reconfigure apex everytime i update the rom, and i couldnt find anything related to apex in the system files. where do system apps keep their data?
thx for trying to help me!
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For question number 3
For question number 3:
Try using Titanium backup.
i was thinking whether its possible to do that without an app?
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Hello,
i was wondering if someone after rooting with the "NookManager - graphical rooter for 1.2.x and beyond" is experiencing a fast battery draining.
Unfortunately i'm a new user so i was not allowed to write in the dev section, so i'm starting a new thread.
In idle (screensaver) i lost 7% overnight.. before rooting, it was around 2% (daily).
My nook fw was 1.2.1, no extra apps installed (i also removed the amazon store) and wifi off.
I already cleared the davlik,
Setcpu says cpu set @ 300mhz and conservative governor (i removed the app after checking)
I deleted all the useless stock apps (like phone.apk, TelephonyProvider...) as suggested in some other posts,
I also tried installing deepsleep and installing the kernel 166 but without improvements...
My guess: is relunch fault (In the processes list seems to use a lot of cpu..), is someone experiencing the same with fw 1.2.1?
Can you suggest me a solution?
feed_back said:
i was wondering if someone after rooting with the "NookManager - graphical rooter for 1.2.x and beyond" is experiencing a fast battery draining.
Unfortunately i'm a new user so i was not allowed to write in the dev section, so i'm starting a new thread.
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I run 1.2.1 rooted with NookManager with a setup very similar to yours (remove Amazon, B&N apps, no other apps installed except CoolReader and AardDict, and no wifi) and I have excellent battery life (1-2% drop per day, more if I read for extended periods with the Glowlight on. I charge my Nook about once a month, sometimes less). So if you're having battery issues, it's probably not related to NookManager.
I would try the following:
- Charge to 100%
- Reboot
- Use your Nook as you would normally, without connecting it to USB or to a charger. Continue using your Nook until the battery drains completely and will not power on.
- Charge your Nook to 100%
- Reboot
That should help the Nook find you min/max battery points and more accurately calibrate the battery indicator.
I use the same spec's and have no problem with battery. Nook is set to work in FastMode all the time. I just woke him up after a week and it's still working (86% battery).
- FW 1.2.1
- kernel v166
- NookManager
- B&N apk's blocked
- CPU scaling "conservative", 300-1000 MHz
- in NookTouch Mod Manager -> everything checked
1. Relaunch shows invalid CPU load values because it counts it's "load checker" as using CPU. When you don't use this function it's not using additional memory.
Try to connect via adb and check what's using the CPU, using 'top' .
2. My guess would be that you manually set your device to sleep.
If you do that 'settings.apk' starts automatically.
Set 'autosleep' on 2 min and let nook fall asleep without your action.
3. I use 'TaskXP' to kill all apk's right after booting (and before leaving my nook for a longer period of time).
After booting i see "calendar, settings, market, gmail and super manager" running.
One of them might be responsible.
4. One of your apk's may prevent the nook from sleeping. Check options in all suspicious apk's and look for "keep screen on while reading" or something similar.
5. Turn off 'logging' in all apk's
6. check your '/system/app' once again. NookManager may not remove all unnecesary apk's.
My folder contains :
- Accesories, AccountAndSync, AFfileDownload..., AirRuntime, ApplicationsProvider, Browser, Calendar, CalendarProvider, CertInstaller, Cryptoserver, DeviceRegistration, DownloadAdmin, DownloadProvider, DrmProvider, GlobalSearch ,Gmail , GmailProvider, GoogleApps, GoogleBackup..., GoogleCheckin, GoogleContacts, GooglePartnerS..., GoogleSettings, GoogleSubscribe, Gtalkservice, HTMLViewer, LatinIME, MarkerUpdater, MediaProvider, Oobe, PackageInstaller, QuickStartActivity, Settings, SettingsProvider, SysChecksum, UserDictionaryProvider, Vending
After several factory resets I always got back high CPU usage, like AIDA showing all CPU cores maxed out. The tablet was connected to ADB and over a adb shell I did find with
adb shell
top -m 15
And it listed CNNS-daemon as continously using 30% load with all cores maxed out.
Eventually I found out what to do.
You have to uninstall: Google Device Health Service
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.turbo
After Uninstall mark it to not update or the all cores full high frequency bug will return.
You have to uninstall : Samsung Device Care
Device Care - Apps on Google Play
Device Care - optimize your Galaxy smartphone
play.google.com
Mark that one to not automatically update as well.
Another advice is to clean those two apps their storage and cache.
Use AIDA from playstore to see if your cpu cores are maxed out before and after.
This bug existed several firmwares ago, no factory reset worked since the bugs were coming from installing updates from Google Play.
The apps come both with your current firmware so you use the firmware default ones, especially the Samsung Device Care from factory firmware has more battery and CPU optional functions.
The battery consumption went from 13% an hour to 8% which is a lot improvement.
As of January 2023 this bug is sill not fixed. I found others with this bug. Only Samsung can fix it.
I have the same issue even after a reset and disabling these packages via ADB. Same process cnss-daemon using 2-3 cores all the time.
I have attached a screenshot of TOP via ADB. This is a stock, freshly reset tablet, in safe mode and airplane mode on and this is "settled" CPU usage. Another one is cdsprpcd which is somehow connected to Qualcomm DSP.
Notice how the CPU is only 660% idle, and sys is at 90%+.
TOP output for my Galaxy A70 with all my crap installed etc idles at 750%+, with the TOP command itself using the most CPU while it is running and sys making up less than 10%.
So yeah, something is wrong here, even on reset stock tablet.