I just bought the new nook with glowlight. Previously, my wife and I shared the basic kindle 4 without touch. My experience so far has been great. I prefer the nook interface to the kindle, and the glowlight has been a godsend - my wife hates any light while she is sleeping, and the glowlight at its lowest setting doesn't bother her and is perfect for reading in the dark.
The biggest adjustment for me coming from the non-touchscreen kindle, is having to deal with incidental page turns. While looking for the optimal position to read and hold the nook, I often find it most comfortable to have my hand on the actual screen. Sometimes I also like to follow along with my finger. Both of these actions will cause the nook to perform unintended page turns, or at the very least bring up the menu. Sometimes I have to spend a large portion of my reading time just finding my page again.
I realize that with time I can learn to be more careful and only hold the nook by the bezel. But, since the nook has those wonderful physical page turn buttons, I figured it has to be possible (assuming the nook is rooted), to disable the touchscreen while reading a book. Maybe a button could be added to the nook menu (the options that display when you hit the n button) that toggles between enabling/disabling the touchscreen. I’ve searched for a way to implement a feature similar to this but haven’t been able to find anything. Does anyone know if there is a way that I can accomplish this for my nook?
Is it possible to disable the Zforce touch screen? Yes
Is it possible to enable the Zforce touch screen? No
Apparently there is a bug in the driver.
To disable the touch screen:
Code:
# cat /sdcard/zero.txt>/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
(Where zero.txt is a single byte file of the digit zero without any line termination.)
There is also the issue that if you do turn off the touch screen you would have to use a hard button to turn it back on.
Renate NST said:
Is it possible to disable the Zforce touch screen? Yes
Is it possible to enable the Zforce touch screen? No
Apparently there is a bug in the driver.
To disable the touch screen:
Code:
# cat /sdcard/zero.txt>/sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
(Where zero.txt is a single byte file of the digit zero without any line termination.)
There is also the issue that if you do turn off the touch screen you would have to use a hard button to turn it back on.
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So I take it then that there is no existing method to do this. Does this mean that we can disable it but would never be able to re-enable it due to the bug?
Regarding the issue of using a hard button to turn it back on, I figure the n button could be used, but there is still the bug.
davidsimon said:
So I take it then that there is no existing method to do this. Does this mean that we can disable it but would never be able to re-enable it due to the bug?
Regarding the issue of using a hard button to turn it back on, I figure the n button could be used, but there is still the bug.
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If i remember right its been a while... Cool reader allows you to customize the touch screen zones (there i 9 i think) to do different things... one of the options is to do nothing. You can also set cool reader to be the default app so when you click a book in the library it automatically opens in cool reader. By setting ever touch screen zone to do nothing its would technically disable the touch screen while reading. because none of the zones would turn the pages. but once you exit the app or hit the N button the screen would still work.
check it out if your rooted.
Well, that's another way to do things, have an app over the target app that captures the touches and does nothing.
You could also patch the stock Reader so that it doesn't respond to any screen touches.
That's actually quite easy.
It would have the advantage of not affecting anything else.
Personally, I find the hard keys too hard and I always use touches on the stock Reader to turn pages.
persichini said:
If i remember right its been a while... Cool reader allows you to customize the touch screen zones (there i 9 i think) to do different things... one of the options is to do nothing. You can also set cool reader to be the default app so when you click a book in the library it automatically opens in cool reader. By setting ever touch screen zone to do nothing its would technically disable the touch screen while reading. because none of the zones would turn the pages. but once you exit the app or hit the N button the screen would still work.
check it out if your rooted.
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You actually don't need to do that in coolreader it has a disable touch screen option I have just set one of the buttons to disable and enable touch when I double press.
Dopedangel said:
You actually don't need to do that in coolreader it has a disable touch screen option I have just set one of the buttons to disable and enable touch when I double press.
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Way cool, but I can't find the option. Where is the disable touch screen option?
Thanks!
Dopedangel said:
You actually don't need to do that in coolreader it has a disable touch screen option I have just set one of the buttons to disable and enable touch when I double press.
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I'm interested in this, too. Send us the instructions!!
_ig_ said:
I'm interested in this, too. Send us the instructions!!
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Open Options, and go to the fourth tab (this one with a pin icon). There u have 'Key actions'. You can assign to your buttons different actions - eg. Lock/unlock touch screen. Works great
Rafsen said:
Open Options, and go to the fourth tab (this one with a pin icon). There u have 'Key actions'. You can assign to your buttons different actions - eg. Lock/unlock touch screen. Works great
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Awesome.
davidsimon said:
So I take it then that there is no existing method to do this. Does this mean that we can disable it but would never be able to re-enable it due to the bug?
Regarding the issue of using a hard button to turn it back on, I figure the n button could be used, but there is still the bug.
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So, I created an apk (NookIROff) to disable the touch-screen and this part worked. I also created another apk (NookIROn) to cat a "1" to on_off, and managed to bind the n button to my NookIROn app. However, as per Renate's post, this didn't re-enabled the IR / touchscreen and I had to reboot the NST by holding the power button for some 10sec, release, and hold it again for another 10sec.
Any ideas? I suspect if we manage to tweak the IR on/off then we could leave the NST permanently on the home page, with wifi enabled and with a few widgets for email etc for a few weeks without any need to recharge it.
_ig_ said:
[...] Any ideas? I suspect if we manage to tweak the IR on/off then we could leave the NST permanently on the home page, with wifi enabled and with a few widgets for email etc for a few weeks without any need to recharge it.
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Not sure about such battery life with wifi on. If I leave wifi on but the device otherwise off, I lose 3-5% battery per hour. With wifi off, it's good for a week or more, easily. I think the idea of disabling the IR sensors is great, but I'm not sure the battery savings will be enough to allow you to leave the screen active and wifi on.
had a look at the kernel code in zforce.c which I believe is the one in my multitouch hacked kernel (https://github.com/arkusuma/nook-touch-multitouch/blob/master/zforce.c)... basically
echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
works to switch it off, but
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
doesn't work, nor does
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/cmd
which should have a similar effect (ret = i2c_smbus_write_byte(tsc->client, cmd); where cmd = #define COMMAND_ACTIVATE 0x01)
all this said, when I get the nook to sleep by pressing the on/off button on the back I believe it goes into "deep_sleep" after a couple of secs; at this point, pressing the "n" button on the front restores the IR, so I suspect it's calling "static int zforce_resume(struct i2c_client *client)" which in turn checks whether the device was indeed on deep_sleep mode before re-initializing touch (IR) and the interrupt as per below code snippet. So, re-enabling IR should be OK but I don't want to monkey around with zforce.c... in terms of battery life, I am still checking stats before/after and I believe it goes from a 4% drop w/screen + IR + wi-fi on to about 1.5% drop if IR is disabled, but I need more time to quantify this gain in battery life.
if (deep_sleep == 0)
return 0;
zforce_touch_hw_init(1);
enable_irq(tsc->irq);
I want a way to do this too.
I already ruined a touch glow screen by simply handling it for a week without a case. No one had any idea at that time how ridiculously delicate the light-carrying film was and how it makes big starburst lights around every crack and blemish, and how effortlessly those cracks form.
So now I DO know I have to be fanatically paranoid about letting anything touch the screen that might put a crack or a scratch in it.
That means at the beach it simply must be inside a ziplock bag to keep sand off.
We need a way to disable the IR so things like a plastic bag don't activate it, and operate the device entirely from hardware buttons EVEN THOUGH yes I agree I don't like the bezel buttons for page turns either, NORMALLY.
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I have a rooted nook simpletouch I got at Goodwill and wanted to chime in on how to disable touch for books:
Moon+ Reader allows you to disable screen touches too. Tap the center screen while in a book, press the cog that appears in the lower right, change everything in control options to "none" (the side clicky-buttons will still flip pages), then go to Miscellaneous and check "Disable vertical scrolling on touch" and uncheck "Allow fling horizontally to turn page."
I still have to touch the center of the screen to bring up options, but it's very intelligent and only responds to a quick tap -- not a long press of my thumb as I hold the nook awkwardly while reading in bed.
_ig_ said:
had a look at the kernel code in zforce.c which I believe is the one in my multitouch hacked kernel (https://github.com/arkusuma/nook-touch-multitouch/blob/master/zforce.c)... basically
echo 0 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
works to switch it off, but
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/on_off
doesn't work, nor does
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-0050/cmd
which should have a similar effect (ret = i2c_smbus_write_byte(tsc->client, cmd); where cmd = #define COMMAND_ACTIVATE 0x01)
all this said, when I get the nook to sleep by pressing the on/off button on the back I believe it goes into "deep_sleep" after a couple of secs; at this point, pressing the "n" button on the front restores the IR, so I suspect it's calling "static int zforce_resume(struct i2c_client *client)" which in turn checks whether the device was indeed on deep_sleep mode before re-initializing touch (IR) and the interrupt as per below code snippet. So, re-enabling IR should be OK but I don't want to monkey around with zforce.c... in terms of battery life, I am still checking stats before/after and I believe it goes from a 4% drop w/screen + IR + wi-fi on to about 1.5% drop if IR is disabled, but I need more time to quantify this gain in battery life.
if (deep_sleep == 0)
return 0;
zforce_touch_hw_init(1);
enable_irq(tsc->irq);
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So, I created an apk (NookIROff) to disable the touch-screen and this part worked. I also created another apk (NookIROn) to cat a "1" to on_off, and managed to bind the n button to my NookIROn app. However, as per Renate's post, this didn't re-enabled the IR / touchscreen and I had to reboot the NST by holding the power button for some 10sec, release, and hold it again for another 10sec.
Any ideas? I suspect if we manage to tweak the IR on/off then we could leave the NST permanently on the home page, with wifi enabled and with a few widgets for email etc for a few weeks without any need to recharge it.
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Has anyone worked on this at all? IG, if you have that apk to turn the IR off still, I would greatly appreciate it. I have been messing a lot with the NST and I would love to be able to conveniently turn off the IR. I don't mind having to turn the Nook off and on again with a long press to get the IR back on.
ALinkToTao said:
Has anyone worked on this at all? IG, if you have that apk to turn the IR off still, I would greatly appreciate it. I have been messing a lot with the NST and I would love to be able to conveniently turn off the IR. I don't mind having to turn the Nook off and on again with a long press to get the IR back on.
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The reason why I want to do this is to save battery life while running a large print clock app which I found called NightClock which came from android 1.6 donut. I can leave the clock app open but turn off the IR sensors to save battery and let it run longer without a charge. I'd also like to do this using renate's simple reader app and using the side buttons to turn pages.
_ig_ said:
So, I created an apk (NookIROff) to disable the touch-screen and this part worked. I also created another apk (NookIROn) to cat a "1" to on_off, and managed to bind the n button to my NookIROn app. However, as per Renate's post, this didn't re-enabled the IR / touchscreen and I had to reboot the NST by holding the power button for some 10sec, release, and hold it again for another 10sec.
Any ideas? I suspect if we manage to tweak the IR on/off then we could leave the NST permanently on the home page, with wifi enabled and with a few widgets for email etc for a few weeks without any need to recharge it.
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Does anyone have his apk or anything similar that will disable the IR array? I'd really like to use this for various applications. I don't mind at all having to reboot by holding the power button down. This could be used for Nooks with bad IR arrays to re-use them as really low battery clocks or calendars, and would also be good for extreme battery savings while reading (using the side buttons only for page turning).
ALinkToTao said:
Does anyone have his apk or anything similar that will disable the IR array? I'd really like to use this for various applications. I don't mind at all having to reboot by holding the power button down. This could be used for Nooks with bad IR arrays to re-use them as really low battery clocks or calendars, and would also be good for extreme battery savings while reading (using the side buttons only for page turning).
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it's been a while... 6 years... let me see if I can find it...
When the NST is not actively tracking your finger only one IR LED is being flashed occasionally.
I really don't think the current usage is that high, although I can check.
If you are having trouble with the IR touch screen the problem could be a) dirt, b) alignment of the plastic lenses.
You can try the Touch.apk (in the signature) to visualize where the problem is.
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Hi,
I've been trying to figure out how to implement the perfect keylock. Currently, I'm not able to find a keylock program/MortScript that does the following:
1. Lock the keypad if phone goes into standby
2. Auto-unlock the keypad if the power button is pressed.
This way, when I power on my phone, it's not locked. But if it's auto-powered on (ie reminder, etc.) then it will be locked.
Hi, I find it interesting that, you can upload scripts please
Greetings and Thanks
Sorry for the English
have you tried S2U2? (Slide to unlock - keylock similar to iPhone's)
Think it does 1) not 2), but I'm not too sure...
it looks cool though
Our device does both points as standard. Problem that it powers itself on and automatically unlocks when for example a call or any notification pops up on the screen.
I agree with hachuah's idea about automatic locking, so I'm looking for application that could:
1. Lock the screen if standby
2. On standby mode. If I tap some part of the screen (some part of screen only to save some batt power), then it would show option to unlock.
3. If I tap, but do nothing or do not unlock, it would goes to standby again.
With above I do not have to push the power button, buttons are easy to be come wear and stay down.
I'm even gladly to pay for someone who's willing to create that kind of application. Or is it already available?
MDCT said:
2. On standby mode. If I tap some part of the screen (some part of screen only to save some batt power), then it would show option to unlock.
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I seriously doubt if that could be archieved by software alone. The touch screen is essentially connected to the LCD power. If the panel is off, the touch screen is off.
Furthermore, it's a all-or-none operation - you just can't have "part" of it on, and ther other part off. I am pretty certain no manufacturer would ever produce such an implementation, even if they could.
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I seriously doubt if that could be archieved by software alone. The touch screen is essentially connected to the LCD power. If the panel is off, the touch screen is off.
Furthermore, it's a all-or-none operation - you just can't have "part" of it on, and ther other part off. I am pretty certain no manufacturer would ever produce such an implementation, even if they could.
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I know that Symbian phone able to do that.
So, basically I could set the timer for the screen to go off. And when the screen off and tap on the screen, it will ask if I want to unlock the screen or not. If not, it will go off again.
So, from what you said, it is impossible to make the screen off but the touch on? It is a hardware issue then. What a sad. Only recently I moved from Symbian to WM, if only WM doesn't rely on button too much.
Or maybe it is possible by set the brightness to very minimal, so doesn't display anything, but the touch is still working?
So, it's an application that would turn the brightness off and lock after some defined time. And would turn the brightness on again when the touchscreen is tapped to ask if user want to unlock.
Is it possible?
Perhaps I should clarify what I said - what I meant by "all or none" operation is that the *touch screen* won't be able to get switched on partially - to save power as you have hoped.
In fact, the touch screen is technically separated from the LCD panel itself, and the backlite too - but it's either a MS or HTC decision that they are stuck together, i.e. you just can't have the LCD off, with the touch screen stays on.
In fact, recent HTC devices WM5 or above have elmininated the function to actually turn off the backlight while the LCD panel is on.
So what we can do is very much limited to use a button based keylock, instead of a touch screen based.
As for your suggestion to display "black" on screen while keeping minimal backlight - it's note quite practical in HTC devices. First the backlight must be on as I said earlier for it to display even "black" such that the touch screen is responsive. It follows that your battery will be drained extremely quickly.
Even with very small power to LCD for the touch could work still takes too much power? Aww.. so it is not possible to do what I want.
Well, I guess I need to get used to with using button, or maybe next time I will try to use bluetooth device to wake the screen.
Thank you for the information, very educating and useful.
hachuah said:
Hi,
I've been trying to figure out how to implement the perfect keylock. Currently, I'm not able to find a keylock program/MortScript that does the following:
1. Lock the keypad if phone goes into standby
2. Auto-unlock the keypad if the power button is pressed.
This way, when I power on my phone, it's not locked. But if it's auto-powered on (ie reminder, etc.) then it will be locked.
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try either of these, i think they might both do what you want
Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button? Or do I really have to push power button every time?
I know of volume button tweak, but.. that one is no good (volume settings gets displayed)... Any other ideas, suggestions? (other than "pull the stylus")
Thanks!
Try AE Button Plus. You can customize a lot of buttons. I didn't tried what you asked, but it worth a try.
Anyway, take care using it.
I would say not. There appears to be no power to these lower buttons while in standby, so no software could work?
Kev
cokester said:
Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button?!
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No, for the reasons given.
BUT... you could use MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again.
You do need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
I have it set to turn screen off on reverse portrait too,
so it turns off automatically when I put it in my pocket.
Im also afraid for that power button... used it a lot on my diamond so it got bricked, its so gentle... Im using it as much as little possible now on mine HD for that reason.
I have s2u2 unlock on stylus out, so I pull out the stylus, the HD comes on and unlocks. It's so simple.
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No, for the reasons given.
BUT... you could use MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again.
You do need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
I have it set to turn screen off on reverse portrait too,
so it turns off automatically when I put it in my pocket.
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Do you find this has any impact on battery life? If i'm right, this just turns off the screen but does not put the device to sleep?
cokester said:
Hey, did anyone found solution... is it possible to tweak settings somehow so that display turns on by pushing home button? Or do I really have to push power button every time?
I know of volume button tweak, but.. that one is no good (volume settings gets displayed)... Any other ideas, suggestions? (other than "pull the stylus")
Thanks!
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That's not possible for the simple reason that the buttons below the screen are part and parcel of the touch screen, so if the screen is off, they won't work.
gadgetwizard said:
Do you find this has any impact on battery life? If i'm right, this just turns off the screen but does not put the device to sleep?
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That is correct.
Power consumption, in this case, depends on what applications are left running. GPS, streaming video, etc would be a bad idea to leave running. But more workday apps use very little juice when the huge power drain of the screen is turned off.
MackTK said:
Try AE Button Plus. You can customize a lot of buttons. I didn't tried what you asked, but it worth a try.
Anyway, take care using it.
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Nope... I've tried that app. Its great for locking down the normal WM hardware buttons, but it doesn't have the HTC bespoke "Home button" on the list of configurable buttons.
I have recently taken delivery of an Otterbox for use on my bike (GPSComputerCycle and music) but to save power I would like to be able to turn the screen off during the ride (xpshutdown allows me to do this) and then press the screen if I want to turn the HD back on again.
I use S2U2 if this makes an difference.
Is there a setting somewhere which allows me to press the screen to power the THD back on again (even if it goes to a lock-screen)?
I had a quick look through the settings (Screen/Power/Lock) but couldn't find anything.
Anyone help?
Thanks
Not possible AFAIK.
When the screen powers down, that applies to the touch-sensitive mechanism as well as the display element.
It would probably require something deeper than even a registry hack, the drivers would need re-writing or something.
Its not possible for the simple reason that the buttons below the screen are part and parcel of the touch screen, so if the screen is off, they won't work.
There appears to be no power to these lower buttons while in standby, so no software could work either?
However there is other ways of doing this:
1. Use s2u2 unlock on stylus out, so when you pull out the stylus, the HD comes on and unlocks. It's simple.
2. MobileMagic to toggle the screen on/off when device is turned face down. That way when you turn it face down, screen goes off and buttons are locked. To turn it back on, turn devicedevice face down again. You will need need to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for", because if the device gets turned off (instead of just screen off) it won't respond.
Hope this helps
Unfortunately the HD will be inside an Otterbox mounted on the handlebars of my bike, so removing the stylus would not be an option and neither would using the G-Sensor.
Sounds like I will have to have it powered on all the time. I know that GPSCycleComputer dims the display while it is active, so this might be a part solution.
Thanks for all the answers though. I was being a numpty after all!
Regards
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Unfortunately the HD will be inside an Otterbox mounted on the handlebars of my bike, so removing the stylus would not be an option and neither would using the G-Sensor.
Sounds like I will have to have it powered on all the time. I know that GPSCycleComputer dims the display while it is active, so this might be a part solution.
Thanks for all the answers though. I was being a numpty after all!
Regards
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Alternative solution:
Attach a dynamo to the wheels of your bicycle and charge your HD on the go
I wouldn't be able to even begin telling you how to do this though!
Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
If you lock it, how do you want to wake up the device?
I wouldn't mind finding a way to do something similar. Maybe not lock the button entirely, but make it so that you have to press the power button for a long time (say 3 secs), or press the power button and the hang up button and the same time.
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
chris10230 said:
no offence but if you did this wouldnt it unlock when you pull out the stylus?
and also you can change that go to start => settings => system/personal => keylock (also not sure if keylock will be installed as i dont have one, but you should be able to find it on here)
Then you can change the wake up to be any of the buttons, current setup or none.
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No, this wont do what is needed. The Keylock simply stops someone from using the phone. It won't stop the screen from coming on accidental in you pocket.
You can 'lock' the phone from accidental use by pressing and holding the 'hang up' button, but again this has nothing to do with screen activation.
It is true that pulling out the stylus will both switch on and unlock the phone though, so disabling the power button may not be all bad. I still think it would be better to activate the screen via a single long button press, or some such.
Totally agree with swinster's comment and proposal.
- Lock the phone by pressing + holding "hang up" button (already implemented)
- Keep phone locked and screen off until
either stylus is pulled out
or power button and hang-up button are pressed at the same time
But disable screen-on when power button alone is pressed (like it is now).
- Anybody able to implement this proposal?
Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
This would be a great solution.
Mine switches on in my pocket all the time, they should have recessed the button, I thought about trying to remove it.
anorak22 said:
Meanwhile, how are you guys carring around your Topaz without the battery being emptied within a day (because of the described issue)?
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Its a bit of an overkil, but my laptop come with me most places.
Reminds me of the Morecambe and Wise sketch (??) where the battery was the size of a suitcase.
I think I need a car charger - which brings me to another grumble - why didn't they implement a standard mini USB interface?
Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
alx37 said:
Standard mini usb fits and charges.
ALExander
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Ooh, Ok. I thought they were different shapes. Will look into this.
[Edit - I have just read that it IS backward compatible with USB - the different shape is becasue the HTC connection supplies audio]
I'm guessing that any old Car Charger with mini USB will work then?
anorak22 said:
Is there any way to lock the power button on the TD2?
I would like to keep the device suspended, with the screen off, even when the power button is hit.
This is to avoid that the screen of the device gets accidentally switched on when I carry it in the pocket of my jeans. This happens all the time, leading to battery drain.
I have tried TouchLockPro, it locks everything except the power button.
Any way to set this up?
Any application providing this feature?
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When you set EnableInputAtSuspend = 0, it will not unlock the power button at suspend. . It will then only awake via the Stylus. But I do not know if this setting also works on the Diamond2.
I am having some odd problems with mine if i press the power button to put it into standby. Sometimes when i press it it turns itself straight back on others it will come back on if i shake it (like the G Sensor is somehow linked to bringing it out of standby). Can you guys check this so i can confirm if i have a faulty unit please?
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
swinster said:
I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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Thanks, sounds plausible, I'll call the supplier tomorrow.
I am sure that on my D810 I could set the lock on at zero seconds with no pin code. Then the keylock would come on every time I came out of standby but with no change of accidentally starting applications and making calls.
On my D2 the password is compulsory for keylock.
Any solution here? I don't want a pin code.
I power button fix would be even better to also save battery. The accidental turning on is a very annoying feature.
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I think I read somewhere that someone had a similar problem - might be the stylus sensor thinking you have remove the stylus.
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ye man,ive got this prob...the phone randomly unlocks bcoz the stylus sensor...im lookin for some application that turns the sensor off....havent found anythin yet...
This is still, by far, the most anoying "feature" of the TD2 phone. I can't believe that HTC did not have the forethought to think that people might actually put the phone in their pockets.
It should be a simple fix so that when the phone is off or in standby, the power button has to be press for say a second before the phone will come on, rather than just a single tap. They can do this to turn the phone off, so why not on?
Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
If i have undersood ur question correctly by completely disabling lock screen of ur future Leo, then yeah, thats possible. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you
It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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I did not think about the accidental pressing of END key before, but this will surely worry me, atleast I get the handset myself and test it in real-life...
Well even if any accidental cliks will be happening, then the lock screen will actually come in handy
well even if the buttons get pressed somehow, the screen won't react to pressure so only buttons will work if there's no lockscreen
You're right, good point hehe I guess all of us WM fans will have to get used to capacitive screens and their advantages/disadvantages
I think there will be 2 potential risks...
1. "Send" button is pressed accidentally more than once (last dialed number will be dialed)
2. Any keys get accidentally pressed continuously (device will remain on impacting battery life)
So yet a good screen locking solution will be recommended
3. "end call/power" button pressed and hold -> device turns off (at least I think so..or is there a "confirmation screen"??) -> you don't get any incoming calls/messages/etc at all =)
Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
In my Diamond2 (I dont use any lock screen or anything) when the screen is turned off and I press long the power button, the confirmation for powering off the device does in fact pop up, but the screen remains turned off, so its impossible to confirm the power off prompt (I see the prompt popped up when I press the pwr button once again to turn on the screen). So probably no threat from here. And even if the screen activates and the prompt for turning off the phone does come out, there's no way of confirming it in your pocket - thats the capacitive screen advantage. But the battery draining issues may occur at some scale... I guess we'll see how it all turns out in real life. The probably unavoidable problem will be if the end button would be possible to get pressed by accident - then we would be facing constant battery drainage with the lockscreen always appearing for no reason.
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Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
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That could help but won't much, because(at least current models) they wake up upon any reminder, battery low, call, text, etc. Besides you will have to use both hands to turn phone on (the top button, unless you got ET fingers ) HD is tall...
Cannot see that menu item
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. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
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Sorry but there is no setting for lockscreen in this menu. There is only settings for the backlight in battery or charged mode.
There is no control for the lockscreen at all Still looking for a way to completely disable this damned lockscreen.
Agreed - even the entry in the Settings tab that claims to control the lockscreen seems to have no impact (I have mine set to 12 hours and it completely ignores that) and the standard registry hacks don't seem to have any effect.
This is a real puzzler!
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Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
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back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
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the clarification was made to the guy who started the thread in post 3. if thats not it then the reg change i have put it should disable/enable the lock screen if the power button is pressed