All right so this may be strange but...
I had no problem creating a bootable SD card for the Nook Color. Wanting the latest and greatest, I went for CM9.
I got Samian's larger CM9 image file so I could use the cm9 nightlies, which are too big for the boot partition of CM7 build.
Anyway, it all went great. Smooth as butter, no crashes, no fuss. So far everything works....EXCEPT, I don't know exactly how it IS supposed to work, since this is the first and only android device I've owned.
So I am in the strange position of having no real technical issue -- but I do have significant "user" questions.
Here are a few. 1. Android Marketplace seemed to install fine. But I end up going to google play when I hit the "shop" button. Is that right? Or is marketplace some kind of integrated app I should be able to use without google play coming up?
2. Can I access the files on my internal Nook Color memory -- i.e. can I read my books, or do I have to put them on the SD card?
3. Are all my apps always on? Is there a way to "shut them down"? Do I need to? Coming from a PC environment, I like to shut down a program when I'm not running it.
4. My "system" information shows (when look at running programs) that I have only about 500MB of RAM. Is there a way to use some of my SD card for more RAM -- or any other way to increase it?
5. Any kind of general user guide for CM9 out there? I realize there probably wouldn't be one specific to Nook Color, since in a sense this is very elaborate hack, but I am starting from scratch.
thanks so much. I've enjoyed the messing around, and I'm thrilled at how well it's gone so far. I got a lot of info from xda.
RevTom said:
All right so this may be strange but...
I had no problem creating a bootable SD card for the Nook Color. Wanting the latest and greatest, I went for CM9.
I got Samian's larger CM9 image file so I could use the cm9 nightlies, which are too big for the boot partition of CM7 build.
Anyway, it all went great. Smooth as butter, no crashes, no fuss. So far everything works....EXCEPT, I don't know exactly how it IS supposed to work, since this is the first and only android device I've owned.
So I am in the strange position of having no real technical issue -- but I do have significant "user" questions.
Here are a few. 1. Android Marketplace seemed to install fine. But I end up going to google play when I hit the "shop" button. Is that right? Or is marketplace some kind of integrated app I should be able to use without google play coming up?
2. Can I access the files on my internal Nook Color memory -- i.e. can I read my books, or do I have to put them on the SD card?
3. Are all my apps always on? Is there a way to "shut them down"? Do I need to? Coming from a PC environment, I like to shut down a program when I'm not running it.
4. My "system" information shows (when look at running programs) that I have only about 500MB of RAM. Is there a way to use some of my SD card for more RAM -- or any other way to increase it?
5. Any kind of general user guide for CM9 out there? I realize there probably wouldn't be one specific to Nook Color, since in a sense this is very elaborate hack, but I am starting from scratch.
thanks so much. I've enjoyed the messing around, and I'm thrilled at how well it's gone so far. I got a lot of info from xda.
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1. Market just was upgraded by google to Play Store. So it is operating properly.
2. You can access files from internal media memory (emmc). But you may have difficulty reading the nook books stored there. They are encrypted for your nook account (DRM). But you can install the android version of the Nook reader and log into your account and redownload them to your SD.
3. Don't worry about always on apps. Android was built for multitasking and has a very efficient memory management system. It does everything for you. It puts apps in memory for you so that when you go to them they are ready to start. Just being in memory is not using processor time so it is not a drain. Also Android will automatically remove apps from memory if it needs to.
4. Because of 3 above 512MB is a lot ram. There is really no need to expand it.
5. Off the top of my head I don't know of a manual, but I'm sure there are some out there. Just google search.
Most of the questions are Android related matters, so any google search about general Android, would do the job.
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Thanks Guys, I appreciate it.
Two follow up questions:
I am running ICS/CM9. Only been at it a day or so, but so far, no real problems. The screen might be *slightly* less responsive than the NC system, but it's not clunky -- maybe just a little slower, a little more prone to having to tap some things more than once.
1. I've seen many other posts of people raving about CM7 and how stable and zippy it is. Would I benefit from switching to CM7? Is it faster/more responsive than CM9 currently?
2. I was thinking of just finding another cheap micro SD and installing CM7 on it (rather than the dual boot thing, which would require me to wipe my current SD and start over). Any reason it wouldn't work to run CM7 off a different card?
thanks again!
It would be worth it for you to get another SD card and load CM7 on it to see the difference. I have used both CM7 and CM9 and love the interface of CM9 but do prefer the stability of CM7.
Learning your way around the systems can.be daunting, but stick with it - Google your questions, read the forums here. You will learn loads just using your nook.
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RevTom,
Only use a Sandisk Cl 2 or 4 microSD card for an SD install. Others don't work as well. This has been well documented here on XDA many times.
There is a high likelihood you will have a bad experience if you don't follow this advice.. (force closes.. slow response, ramdom re-boots, etc)
Search the web.. they are about as inexpensive as the rest. Sometimes Radio Shack has a decent price on them.. sometimes not..
RevTom said:
Thanks Guys, I appreciate it.
Two follow up questions:
I am running ICS/CM9. Only been at it a day or so, but so far, no real problems. The screen might be *slightly* less responsive than the NC system, but it's not clunky -- maybe just a little slower, a little more prone to having to tap some things more than once.
1. I've seen many other posts of people raving about CM7 and how stable and zippy it is. Would I benefit from switching to CM7? Is it faster/more responsive than CM9 currently?
2. I was thinking of just finding another cheap micro SD and installing CM7 on it (rather than the dual boot thing, which would require me to wipe my current SD and start over). Any reason it wouldn't work to run CM7 off a different card?
thanks again!
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1. Just a little faster, more stable. But you give up the tablet interface.
2. Only reason not to is inconvenience of manually switching the cards and of course your media files go with each card. But it will give you a chance to look at it and decide which you want.
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davidr415 said:
RevTom,
Only use a Sandisk Cl 2 or 4 microSD card for an SD install. Others don't work as well. This has been well documented here on XDA many times.
There is a high likelihood you will have a bad experience if you don't follow this advice.. (force closes.. slow response, ramdom re-boots, etc)
Search the web.. they are about as inexpensive as the rest. Sometimes Radio Shack has a decent price on them.. sometimes not..
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Yes, I've seen those threads -- maybe I can add some new info. I went with a SanDisk class 6 16GB. I didn't see the class-rating discussions until too late. There are some who also recommend staying 8GB.
However, with CM9, I've had no trouble using the class 6, 16GB. Maybe I just got lucky, or perhaps CM9 can handle the 6.
I'm glad your class 6 is working for you. Have you seen Racks thread in the development section for a dual boot SD card with both Cm7 and Cm9 on it? I did that for awhile. His instructions are pretty straight forward. You can have your books, pictures, music, etc. on the.SD card and use them with both systems.
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I'm glad your class 6 is working for you. Have you seen Racks thread in the development section for a dual boot SD card with both Cm7 and Cm9 on it? I did that for awhile. His instructions are pretty straight forward. You can have your books, pictures, music, etc. on the.SD card and use them with both systems.
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Yes, I've seen the the thread. I would still have to wipe what I have so far, and I like the version of CM9 I've already got -- believe it came from someone called "Samian" or something like that.
One final question. For a single-boot SD OS, anyone have thoughts on the best CM7 to run with?
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Yes, I've seen the the thread. I would still have to wipe what I have so far, and I like the version of CM9 I've already got -- believe it came from someone called "Samian" or something like that.
One final question. For a single-boot SD OS, anyone have thoughts on the best CM7 to run with?
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Some swear by Mirage by mr666. It has been customized heavily so I personally like stock CM 7.2 RC3 from the Cyanogenmod site.
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Mirage-Kang no question.
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RevTom said:
Yes, I've seen the the thread. I would still have to wipe what I have so far, and I like the version of CM9 I've already got -- believe it came from someone called "Samian" or something like that.
One final question. For a single-boot SD OS, anyone have thoughts on the best CM7 to run with?
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My own setup involves Cm7 at main memory with 233 nightly and sdcard with Racks dualboot (kang Cm7 and ICS).
You should consider the fact that its easy to try other systems by just swapping Sd cards. Then you will find what you really like.
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Here's where I got my original CM9
android.sphsolutions.net/Encore/Nightlies/Misc/
The "generic 1.3" creates a larger boot sector to accommodate the larger cm9 nightlies.
Since the first post, I left that one on my larger, faster card (class 6, 16GB), and tried Racks' Dual boot. Cm9 seems to run a little zippy-er there, but I can't tell if that is the build or it is the fact that I'm running that one from an 8gb class 4 card (which is said to be better than a class 6).
Still favoring ICS/CM9 over CM7.
Any thoughts on file management for the free SD space? I am having mixed results with plugging the Nook into the PC. Sometimes I have full access to the free space/storage on the SD, and sometimes it shows up without any folders or files at all. (this is in Racks Dual boot, CM9)
Also, anyone remember off-hand where I can find the thread that tells me how to make CM9 the first (primary) boot instead of the secondary? I've traveled so much ground in these forums lately...
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Hi there.
I was wondering how slower or cumbersome is the experience using SD CM7 or Phiremod vs having it EMMC.
Are there any benchmarks comparison (quadrant, etc) available on XDA or can someone share their experience and how different they feel?
ust to clarify I am not comparing CM7 vs Phiremod, just asking about the experience regarding SD vs EMMC. Thanks.
I guess this pretty much depends on the sd class so please mention in your comments which one you used!
Garoto1973 said:
Hi there.
I was wondering how slower or cumbersome is the experience using SD CM7 or Phiremod vs having it EMMC.
Are there any benchmarks comparison (quadrant, etc) available on XDA or can someone share their experience and how different they feel?
ust to clarify I am not comparing CM7 vs Phiremod, just asking about the experience regarding SD vs EMMC. Thanks.
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Straight answer, running it off SD card does not "feel" any slower or more cumbersome.
I've come across posts from people who have tried both eMMC and SD installs of CM7/OC and claim that it actually feels snappier on their SD and then vice versa with other people. If you have a particularly good SD card, it may actually be (or perhaps just "feels") faster than eMMC. It's just too subjective.
In my own experience, I was having too many issues with random FCs and quirky behavior on SD card. eMMC was definitely smoother and performed better.
Turned out my overpriced best of the best Class 6 and Class 10 cards were the problem. I have since reverted to stock Nook on eMMC and running CM7 off SD card again.
Now I "feel" my current install on my new SD card (Class 4 Sandisk) is better. These particular cards have very good random small block r/w in comparison to higher Class cards tweaked for high speed sequential r/w. But it's all luck of the draw, same cards from a different batch may perform better or worse, YMMV.
Then again this install on my new card is using the latest CM7 stable running the latest OC test kernel at 1.3ghz. Quadrant scores averaging 2800.
Your straight answer was actually very complete Quadrant at 2800 is just insane, I just wish USPS was as fast upon delivering my Nook, I just can't wait!
Thanks for the SD card tip, I ordered a Sandisk class 6 and was thinking on ordering a second one to play with other roms, I think I will order a class 4 this time just in case...
Glad to be of help. Some other thoughts; IMHO this would be the best way to get CM7 + gapps/Market + OC kernel installed on SD card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Grab the latest CM7 stable which is 7.0.2, gapps and OC kernel 4/04 or (4/24 test kernel), which you can find referenced in links from that thread.
You would be starting with a base installation here with the latest stable CM7 plus full Market access. Then you can build, and personalize it from there to make it your own, instead of say Phiremod which is a customized version of the same.
If you follow the instructions, it will be an easy smooth experience. 15 minutes tops. The tricky part may be in getting the timing right to get into "recovery" to install gapps. Instead of counting 6 seconds as per the instructions, count to 3 right when you see "Touch the future..". Be sure to have your wi-fi enabled and set up before you install gapps.
After you have CM7 and gapps/Market installed and running, then you may choose to OC it. With the latest CM7 stable and stock kernel, it actually runs very smooth even without overclocking (depending on your SD card). OC kernels up to 4/4 (1.1Ghz) just needs an easy uImage replacement as per the instructions.
However, newer test OC kernels (1.3Ghz) have modules and libs which you need to adb push over, which means you'd need the android SDK installed on your computer with working drivers.
Good luck.
I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
nicros said:
I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
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IMO, CM7 or Phiremod V6 (CM7 based) are the best daily drivers for Nook Color right now. Honeycomb is making big progress, but it still not as far along as the other 2 roms. You will need at least 1 SD card, but really you should have a couple. Here is a guide from user "eyeballer" to installing CM7 to your Nook's internal memory. Much more information can be found on the various other roms available, by using the search tab. Best of luck and welcome to the world of Nook!
I tried Froyo and CM7 and couldn't get used to the soft keys. with CM7 2 months ago i wasn't able to connect to my office's wireless network.
I switched over to Deeper-Blue's V4 honeycomb, and the only issue i honestly had for my use of the tablet was no calendar support and having to unmount the SD card in order to install some apps.
I ended up buying Touchdown Exchange to take care of the calendar/email for my business, the wireless worked at my office, and i could play angry birds on a bigger screen as well as reading my kindle app.
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app.
just my 2 cents.
MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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Hahah..... You're right about the overgrown android phone with the CM7, but it's sure hard to knock the stability of it at the moment. I'll have to give Madcat's HC a try this weekend. I know huge improvements have been made over the last week or so, but haven't had a chance to flash it.
Overgrown phone? I felt that way with NookieFroyo but CM7 with tablet tweaks is awesome. Softkeys right on the taskbar was genius and actually works as opposed to Softkeys on NookieFroyo hellbent on making me go crazy. Honeycomb is the dream but for now Im loving CM7.
And of course, CM7 (therefore phiremod) also has bluetooth support
Found the madcat version-
No OC kernel tho, thats too bad. Will give it a go anyways.
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I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app...
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Does the kindle app actually work correctly for you?
I'm using madcat's v3 atm and the kindle app page's always get messed up, as if it's set for a larger screen.
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I went back to the previous version of the kindle app. The latest version did work, but like you said it seemed the pages were messed up.
I changed my LCD density down to 120, but haven't tested the app since then.
ok so my girlfriend got a nook color for christmas this year and heard you can put honeycomb on it. i did it and all went well BUT she has no market and i have no idea how to use adb and her nook isnt even recognized. i tried the easy adb usb nook installer thing and it wont work. now i tried to format my sd card to use as a regular 4gb card and i only have 117 mb left!!!! i have no way to fix it and i just bought it today from walmart. it was only 10 bucks so no big loss but still its 4gb i couldve used. is there any home to reformat correctly to get it back or any way to completely uninstall android sdk and adb and the drivers and redo it over and can anyone help me as to making the market work if possible? i installed the honeycomb image to the sd card so i dont ruin her nook and i dont plan on flashing honeycomb to the actual nook. i need help asap so please anyone on the website help me!!!!!!
sneakysnake16 said:
ok so my girlfriend got a nook color for christmas this year and heard you can put honeycomb on it. i did it and all went well BUT she has no market and i have no idea how to use adb and her nook isnt even recognized. i tried the easy adb usb nook installer thing and it wont work. now i tried to format my sd card to use as a regular 4gb card and i only have 117 mb left!!!! i have no way to fix it and i just bought it today from walmart. it was only 10 bucks so no big loss but still its 4gb i couldve used. is there any home to reformat correctly to get it back or any way to completely uninstall android sdk and adb and the drivers and redo it over and can anyone help me as to making the market work if possible? i installed the honeycomb image to the sd card so i dont ruin her nook and i dont plan on flashing honeycomb to the actual nook. i need help asap so please anyone on the website help me!!!!!!
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You should do some more research. Honeycomb on the nook is no bueno. You can use gingerbread with no problems. ICS is being updated daily, still some things not working. To format your micro sd card you can use SD Formatter from Sandisk. Try cm7 on your sd card. Works great. My girlfriend has very few problems, she is very happy.
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Oh ok thanks for the info I fixed the sd card.she will be happy to hear it might work cause I explained to her how annoying it was... Now do I have to flash anything to the nook itself? And is there any way to restore it in case it messes up? If possible id like it all done on the sd card and I could get an 8gb easy, and I could try for a 16 if necessary. Thank you for the quick reply too really helped
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Honeycomb in general is a no-no. The Honeycomb ROM you got was based off of SDK. Google never officially released the Honeycomb source code. As for your problem, I'd need more info. You could always wipe your SD and go to Wal-Mart, asking for a trade-in. If they plug it in, act dumb and say it came that way. Go with the latest CM7 nightly. CM9 is in a rapid change state at the moment, so unless you can build a ROM based off of source, I'd wait until CM9 becomes stable. For now, look into the ROM that would suit her. MIUI is well-supported and sort of resembles iOS. CM7 is strictly Android. Phiremod is nice but is officially unsupported because its developer decided to leave his Android life. Hopefully, someone else takes the reigns from him. My suggestion for you for now is either CM7 or MIUI.
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sneakysnake16 said:
Oh ok thanks for the info I fixed the sd card.she will be happy to hear it might work cause I explained to her how annoying it was... Now do I have to flash anything to the nook itself? And is there any way to restore it in case it messes up? If possible id like it all done on the sd card and I could get an 8gb easy, and I could try for a 16 if necessary. Thank you for the quick reply too really helped
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Personally I'd flash a ROM to the Nook. If you want to run CM7 completely off of SD, things get more complicated. For now, give her a ROM. If she likes the look of an iPod, go with MIUI. Otherwise, flash CM7 (the latest stable should do). Make a recovery after you flash and about once every week or so. I suggest getting an SD card for just recoveries. 2GB should do and when you need to delete old recoveries, just hook up to your computer, find the directory in your SD labeled "clockworkmod", open it, and delete the folders that hold the old recoveries. Most are named based on the date and time they were created.
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First, there is probably nothing wrong with your SD card as I think you have now found. When you make an install that is designed to run off the SD card the process partitions the card into various areas. Windows can only see the first partition which is the boot partition of 117 MB. Other partitions hold the system, data and "SD" areas and the Nook will see all of these and can mount the "SD" area as visible to the PC when connected by USB.
Various utilities are available to put the card back to a single full capacity partition. E.g. the HP utility or the Sandisk utility as mentioned.
I'd certainly follow the advice given on ROM selection. If you choose to use the CM7 type then the ROM build under the KANG MiRaGE thread is the best choice at the moment.
Although installing to emmc internal is nicer in many respects there are also lots of people here who have chosen to run on SD because they wanted to leave the Nook stock software unaltered. Providing you use a SanDisk card this will give good results, running fast and stable and does not alter the internal Nook software so you can just remove the card to get back to the standard Nook.
I started like this but then decided that I was never going to use the stock and eventually flashed into internal. For non-technical friends who want the CM7 experience on their Nook I normally use the SD card method as it then means they have an easy path back to a standard Nook.
If you want to run from the SD card then reformat your card back to full capacity, choose which ROM you want to use then follow the SD card install guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Yea I used a sandisk card and I fixed mine thanks as for installing cm7 I would like it on the sd card becauae if she doesnt like it then idk how to return it to normal...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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This ^^^. I have flashed cm7 to my gf's emmc, somehow, by accident in the past. I took it back to stock with the help of a thread in the dev section. Not a problem. It seems pretty hard to screw up her nook. She loves cm7 over stock. Actually, I used the cm7.2 kang. Runs really well on the sd card. If there is ever a problem, pull the sd card and start over. Always have current backups of apps/data. Good luck.
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ugh, I feel stupid, having the same issue with the sd card. Can someone gimme the link for the sd formatter? I tried the hp utility and it didnt change any thing. Thanx guys.
Actually, the stock B&N operating system has a nice SD card formatter. You just put in the SD card after turning on the Nook, go to Device Options from Settings, click on the SD card option, and you can format/wipe it from there.
Under Ubuntu, I use gparted.
For Windows, I don't know which one is the best, but when I had the same problem, I used MiniTool Partition Wizard
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ugh, I feel stupid, having the same issue with the sd card. Can someone gimme the link for the sd formatter? I tried the hp utility and it didnt change any thing. Thanx guys.
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std5501 said:
ugh, I feel stupid, having the same issue with the sd card. Can someone gimme the link for the sd formatter? I tried the hp utility and it didnt change any thing. Thanx guys.
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Use MiniTools Wizard
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CM7 - nb230 on eMMC - Dalingrin's OC kernel 2.6.32.9 @ 1200MHz NOOKcolor
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I can't help but notice you have it clocked to 1200MHz. No criticism, and it's purely your choice, but clocking to 1200MHz isn't actually... well, I guess the word is, "beneficial". Personally, I'm clocked to 1100MHz, and I'll tell you why. Clocking the Nook at 1200MHz makes it: 1) Overheat very easily, 2) Drain through battery like a b***ch, and 3) It has no noticeable increase in performance. I'm not the only one out there who has noticed this either. But I can't dictate you and make you change it. Just informing you that Dragons may be ahead of you. If you don't have any of those problems, then so be it. If I were to recommend my opinion for overclocking settings, I'd say 1100/1100 min/max set to interactive or interactiveX. It seems counter-intuitive, but I know of an article (for the life of me can't find the link, LeslieAnn posted the link in one of her replies to an LG Optimus V thread) where a developer did tests at different clocking settings. From his findings; overclocking is better than underclocking, minimum clock setting has a really miniscule effect on the idle power consumption, and setting min & max settings at the same step provides the most balanced power-performance ratio. Anyways, I'll look for the link and see if I can find it.
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I can't help but notice you have it clocked to 1200MHz. No criticism, and it's purely your choice, but clocking to 1200MHz isn't actually... well, I guess the word is, "beneficial". Personally, I'm clocked to 1100MHz, and I'll tell you why. Clocking the Nook at 1200MHz makes it: 1) Overheat very easily, 2) Drain through battery like a b***ch, and 3) It has no noticeable increase in performance. I'm not the only one out there who has noticed this either. But I can't dictate you and make you change it. Just informing you that Dragons may be ahead of you. If you don't have any of those problems, then so be it. If I were to recommend my opinion for overclocking settings, I'd say 1100/1100 min/max set to interactive or interactiveX. It seems counter-intuitive, but I know of an article (for the life of me can't find the link, LeslieAnn posted the link in one of her replies to an LG Optimus V thread) where a developer did tests at different clocking settings. From his findings; overclocking is better than underclocking, minimum clock setting has a really miniscule effect on the idle power consumption, and setting min & max settings at the same step provides the most balanced power-performance ratio. Anyways, I'll look for the link and see if I can find it.
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You know what? I'm here to learn too so any new idea, new knowledge, ..... all are welcomed. Once again, thanks.
Just I thought that at one point, we, dev. concluded that 1200 is best, not 1100, not 1300. That's the reason why I set 1200. Personally I haven't set to anything else beside stock 800 and OC 1200.
Since you said so, I will set it to 1100 and see if any better.
Thanks again, m8
Just get a new sd card here for 8 bucks: http://www.dailysteals.com/
16 gb class 4.
Only good for today.
Go download EaseUS, the free trial. It helped me expand my 16gb sandisk to full capacity after I imaged the files I wanted. EaseUS got a great rating on CNET. I figured out what I needed to do without watching the tutorial video.
If only I could get my nook to actually boot now :/
The EaseUS tool works like a charm. Thanks for the info. I got my 16GB back now...
I messed up my 32GB Sandisk (4) sd card too. It crashed running CM7 (no idea why) and I tried to reformat it using mini as suggested and then reinstall CM7 on it. It would not reformat to FAT32! So, then I wiped it, which maybe was my mistake. Anyway, now I can see the card in mini but checking the properties I see that it's all f'd up. Basically I can't format it as anything, number of cylinders appears to have changed, etc, etc. I have no idea what I did to it! Obviously, my knowledge on this subject is limited. I've learned how to create partitions, define or extend them and so on but know very little about how these little buggers work.
Since it cost about $25 on sale I'd like to fix it, if possible. Anybody have any ideas about how to fix or where I can go to learn? Does this problem have to do with the master build? I see that option in mini but don't understand what it is!
Sorry for being so stupid. I bought a new 16GB card and successfully made a new CM7 sd and restored apps using TB and content from my PC (thank god I had the presence of mind to back that stuff up)! I sure would like the extra 16GB back though....no $$ in the budget for anything more than the 16GB I bought.
I know this is sort of wandering from the OP but since others were discussing f'd up cards (albeit more easily repaired) I thought it would be ok. Feel free administrator, to redirect me if I should start new thread in Q&A. I did surf there and ran a global search of the NT threads and this was the best of four pertinent threads I found.
Snooch
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda app-developers app
But this is a nook color thread.
Everyone here uses burning software to put bootable NC images on the device and it fixes it. Not sure if such things exist on the NT. Best to search there.
I have been on cm7 and its been rock soild. Im wondering if the newest cm9 nightlys r ready for daily use? Thanks.
Short answer: No.
Long answer: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Honestly "daily use" is a matter of preference. Why not search around the forums to see other peoples experiences, bugs, and even backup your current setup and flash it yourself to try.
If you accept anything less than "rock solid" then yes, go ahead and have fun with CM9.
It's good to play with but up to this point, no reason to replace Cm7
I use cm9 for daily use, but there are issues. I use my nook as my mail computer for a few of my classes, but many games have issues that make them a bear to use. Some apps load as if on a phone while others load as if on a tablet. Battery life isn't as good and some parts aren't particularly stable. CM9 has perfect keyboard mapping for my bluetooth keyboard and all of my apps i use for school work fine, so I'm happy with it. Basically, it's ready for stable use if you're not using it for too much entertainment in my opinion.
Why not dual-boot both for best of all possible worlds? I've been using Racks triple boot off SD card for weeks now with good results from both CM7 and interesting fiddlings with CM9. And always with the stock B&N on emcc to fall back on.
Anniraff said:
Why not dual-boot both for best of all possible worlds? I've been using Racks triple boot off SD card for weeks now with good results from both CM7 and interesting fiddlings with CM9. And always with the stock B&N on emcc to fall back on.
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How much space does the CM7 and CM9 partitions take on the SD? I need all the space I can get on my 16gb SD...
MY CM7 is really sluggish running from the emmc at the moment so I'm not sure if I should swith ROM or just reinstall everything.
Taken from Easeus:
part. size used
boot: 117.63 12.59
1 305.93 305.93
2 604.01 604.01
3 384.34 384.34
4 603.98 603.98
SD card 5.43GB 5.43GB
This is partitioned 8GB Sandisk card. I've never used anything larger, but YMMV.
I'm too new with CM9 to be clear on which partitions hold which ROM systems, but I think you will see, regardless of what goes where, you've stll got a lot of space to use.
And, both my CM7 and CM9 are whip-fast (I'm using V6 Supercharger, which helped my Kang build CM7 a lot). Oddly, my slowest speed seems to be the stock B&N, but I use it rarely.
optimusv45 said:
Im wondering if the newest cm9 nightlys r ready for daily use?
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You might not be aware of this, but your real question is "am I ready to deal with pre-release-quality software?" Of course CM9 is ready for daily use; but are you ready for CM9 in its current state? This is something that you'd have to ask yourself.
i dont have an sd card for dual boot images
Anniraff said:
Why not dual-boot both for best of all possible worlds? I've been using Racks triple boot off SD card for weeks now with good results from both CM7 and interesting fiddlings with CM9. And always with the stock B&N on emcc to fall back on.
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i have just tried cm9 today. I'm happy with the progress however I'm going back to cm7 lol it is not ready ~, at least not ready for me . Youtube doesn't work for me . scrolling is slower than cm7. it looks really neat though .
I have a used Nook Color on the way. I've been looking forward to rooting my very own NC for months now, and as soon as mine gets here, I'm going to work. But I am looking for some advice first. Before anyone tells me to search and read the threads, I have been, for the last week. That's why I have the questions!
I have CM7 on my Inspire, and have been very happy with it. My inner geek is screaming for ICS, and I'd really like to use CM9 on my NC. But I've been reading threads and while I see plenty of success stories, I hear lots of difficulties as well. "Man, this would be my daily driver except for (or in spite of) problem X." Some folks have sound issues, some don't. Bluetooth works, or it doesn't. Battery life is as good as CM7, or "I need a really long extension cord" (okay that's a paraphrase). Gapps work, gapps don't work. Screen rotation is funky for some, just fine for others. Then I read where this issue or that one has been fixed, but not for everyone. And there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason as to why some have problem X and others don't. My head's spinning a bit here.
So here's what I'm hoping for from CM9 on my Nook Color. I need wifi obviously. I will be wanting to use it to listen to music and occasionally watch movies from Amazon or Netflicks, so I need sound. I'd like to get decent battery life (and what exactly IS decent battery life for these things anyway?) And Bluetooth isn't a deal-breaker, but I'd like to be able to use a BT keyboard occasionally. Am I expecting too much? I know we're still in the nightlies era with CM9.
Is there a stable, functional CM9 build out there? Should I expect to have to resolve some of these issues? I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but how much should I expect? Or should I bite the bullet and go with CM7?
If it helps, my plan is to re-partition 1.96 /data as discussed in DeanGibson's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094371 and install CMx to eMMC according to eyeball's thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227 . I am planning on using this as a daily driver.
What should I realistically expect?
I know some of the regulars here must get tired of these sorts of questions, but after reading threads I'm more confused than ever. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Surprising no one has answered this. I'll answer what I can, though I've only just recently built a working version of CM9 myself. This thread will give you a good overview of stuff, and give you a mostly-working instruction document to compile your own copy of ICS CM9. Both this thread and [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526115"this thread[/url] give out unofficial nighties for CM9.
First, you asked if there's a stable, functional build of CM9. There is not. The ones you'll find are functional, but buggy. Some things outright do not work, some are buggy or glitchy, and some things just won't work.
I don't think there's too much tinkering that will be necessary, at least I haven't had any tonight. There will be issues you run into, or things you wish worked that don't. Everything is still very alpha right now. But still very usable.
As for movies/videos, I'm not very sure. I have not tried video on mine yet, and probably won't, as I don't use it for that.
I, for one, do plan on using it as a daily driver, as I've not found enough issues to not. Besides, I love playing with a new toy, and ICS is new enough to count 8D
CM9 is still at an early stage compared to CM7. In my experience with the latest nightly builds it is very stable, has good wifi, bluetooth (limited range like CM7), sound and video and a much nicer screen organisation and functionality compared to CM7. Against that it currently does not have video acceleration so Netflix will not work and the interface is noticeably laggy compared to CM7. The lag can be reduced somewhat by choosing alternative launchers and a bit of tweaking but it is not up to CM7 smoothness standards yet.
What I do with a new install is
a) Install MiRaGE CM7 7.2 to internal emmc memory. Install gapps. Set up and download the apps you want and set up the screens how you like. Back up your apps via Titanium.
b) Take a Nandroid back up of your install. This will be your CM7 fallback.
c) Wipe (system, data, cache) and install latest nightly CM9. Install ICS Gapps. Install Nova Launcher for a bit of extra smoothness. Do basic set up, restore downloaded apps via Titanium and set up screens how you like.
d) Take another Nandroid back up of your system.
Now see whether you can live with or prefer CM9. If you find it too laggy or need your Netflix then you can simply restore to CM7. You can choose to restore back to CM9 as well to apply a further update.
Others do a similar thing by keeping CM7 on their internal and booting to a CM9 on an SD card. Perfectly valid, but I prefer to stick to a clean emmc install and avoid switching SD cards around.
I have been on cm7 mirage kang for a couple of months now and played with cm9. Didn't really like it so went back to cm7. I had the 1gb system and 5gb media set up from the beginning and was looking into repartitioning. I went that route but am now on a dual boot configuration with cm7 mirage kang running primary and a nightly of cm9 running alternate. I have over 2gb for each system and a little over 1gb for media and my sd card that both cm7 and cm9 share. Give it a try. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1275859
Thanks for the advice guys. It's REALLY appreciated.
alunral, I had both of your nightlies threads bookmarked already, but hadn't gotten into the other one. Thank you, it's been informative. I hadn't really thought of compiling my own, but I may have to give it a shot. One of my boys and I have been playing with the idea of building our own Linux distro, but I'll bet I can get him interested in doing this first. He has a Xoom we could play around with too. (grinning and wiggling my eyebrows)
bobtidey and zires, those are both good suggestions. I'd thought about CM7 in eMMC and CM9 on SD, but I'm just not very enthusiastic about running off SD. Don't know why really.Either one of your ideas would work better I think.
UPS came by last night, and I'm looking at a new-condition NC sitting on the couch next to me. Y'all have made the road forward a little bit clearer.
zires, is your handle a left-over from the days of Palm?