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I am very interested in rooting my NC but have several questions that I cannot find answers to. Maybe you guys can help.
1. I know rooting voids the warranty. Can you restore to stock after rooting so they have no idea that you have rooted if a problem arises?
2. Can you still run BN apps after rooting? For example, I bought a Boynton book and still want to access and use it. Is that possible?
3. Does the software that I install with rooting update automatically or do I have to manually update the software every so often?
4. I have read that the Froyo option is best for NC. Is that true?
5. I am running software version 1.2.0 and my serial number begins with 2011. My model number is BNRV200. Is your Autonooter 3.0.0 for this version or is there another version?
Thanks for any and all help you can provide!!
1. Yes you can restore it to stock, have a look around for the answer. Rooting theoretically voids your warranty. Though don't think B&N can find out, at least the average shop assistant won't
2. Well if you just root your device then it will still run the Nook firmware so the only change will be that you can install non-Nook market apps and run apps as root.
Now if you go on the root of installing a custom build e.g. CM7 you can still install the Nook app--like you can do on any android device--and have your library there.
3. Nope you will most likely have to update manually.
4. Well since Nook's update 1.2 it runs Froyo natively. CM7 is based on Gingerbread, while there is also Honeycomb but that is based on an SDK... I know I must have confused you more... so better go to the Android development section and have a read.
5. I would recommend ManualNooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
Nice reply sid
Sent from my Nexus S for Netflix but really a NC.
Thank You sibby!! So, if I root and then need to manually update the software, how do I know when an update is available? Do I just have to keep up with it? I will read the info you suggested. Thanks so much again!!
Another question. If I go with the manual root, then that isn't resetting the entire operating system (as it were) but just allowing me to install non market apps, correct? That is really all I want to do anyways.
One way to get more out of a Nook Color is to run Cyanogenmod 7 off of an SD card. This does not require rooting, does not change the stock install at all, and does not void your warranty.
Installing the latest stable CM7 version with the "Size Agnostic SD Card" method is not very difficult, although it requires a microSD card reader on your computer.
Just got a Nook Color bnrv200rb
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5. I would recommend ManualNooter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
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I have that same model number and was wondering if this advice still applies or if there has been a new release for auto-nooter that works with it or something. Thanks
I'm new to the Nook Color area of XDA, so I apologize in advance if my question is one that has been answered. I did search, but was not able to find an answer to my exact situation, so here it is:
I'm getting a NC as a gift for my family to use. I understand that the stock Rom for the NC allows you to access (what appears to me to be) B&N's version of the Market, with apps optimized for the NC. That sounds like a good thing, as it would seem like they would be the more stable versions (as they are built/tweaked specifically for the NC).
However, I'm familiar with (in general) the rooting/custom ROMs/overclocking concepts of an Android device, so I'm thinking I would like to put MIUI or CM7 on the device so that I can make it be the most powerful and useful device possible.
Here's my dilemma - I can't seem to find any posts that say whether the apps that a person can get from the B&N "market" will run (if transferred via ADB or Root Explorer, or whatever the NC equivalent may be) on a CM7/MIUI setup, or if it is just better to get the normal Market version of those apps.
For example: If I get Angry Birds in the B&N market, I would assume it's designed to run a certain way on the NC. If I download it from the Android Market, I would assume it's going to run differently. Is there any perceptible difference between the two?
I'm not entirely averse to staying with the stock ROM if the apps are heavily tied to (and perform better with) the stock setup. However, if it's not really going to matter whether they come from B&N or Google, I would prefer to be able to use a custom ROM and still be able to run (within reason) all the apps I'm used to using.
I guess that ultimately I can dual-boot if I find that the B&N app versions are superior, but having just dealt with a letdown from a Pandigital Novel, I'm wanting this experience to get off on the right foot. To me, the optimal situation would be a full install of a custom ROM, with either the optimized B&N apps running or equivalent Android Market apps running.
Thanks in advance for any advice/experiences anyone can offer.
I think it depends on whether or not the application requires anything that would be only in the B&N version of Android. I've used the Pandora application from the stock OS on CM7 and worked fine, but there may be some that won't. I haven't ran stock since about a week after getting mine.
Edit: I realized I rambled, so feel free to skip the long version below.
Short version: Not sure if you can ADB pull/push the paid B&N apps to another install, don't know how (if any) DRM works for that. While B&N apps are built specifically for the resolution, I find that they are very expensive (compared Angry Birds Seasons HD 99cents to B&N Angry Birds Seasons (HD) 3 dollars, and honestly I could not see a difference between the two) and if your Nook is not overclocked (which requires rooting), tend to be slow. There are some that are quite nice that I haven't found the equivalent of yet in Amazon App/Google Market such as Word Rainbow. You can find replacements/equivalents for most of the B&N apps in the other two stores I've mentioned. B&N sadly has a very small selection of apps that are actually any good, imo.
The native B&N reader app is far better than the Nook app (some functionality like enhanced children's books ONLY available on native app) and has not been, afaik, successfully ported.
Long, rambly, feel-free-to-ignore version pertaining more to ROMS than apps:
I've run unrooted stock, Manualnootered (rooted) stock, and various flavors of CM7.
- The native ereader app in stock has a very, very nice UI. Much better imo than the Kindle's. I still have to find a good replacement for it. It is also the only way, AFAIK, that you can read those enhanced children's books that lets you record your voice, or that has animations/reads to the viewer. If this is important to you, then stick to unrooted or rooted stock.
- Unrooted stock is so slow, that after having used overclocked rooted stock and CM7, I cannot bring myself to use it again. Even page turns were slow. App loading times are abysmal, and live wallpaper will not only eat your battery but cause everything else to slow down.
- Manualnootered stock is quite nice because you get to install 3rd party apps, have access to not only B&N's own store but also Google Market and Amazon App Store if you install them. You can also overclock so it's a much faster experience (highly recommended).
*Drawbacks are that there are some bugs that you may run into: Update issues with Adobe products, which cause boot loops (there's a fix for it). Not all apps may appear in Google Market (several things you can try to fix). And finally, if there's an OTA (over the air) update to the next (1.4, assuming you manualnooter to the latest 1.3 update), it will break your root/nootering and you will have to do it all over again.
- Installing a Cyanogenmod ROM: You get Gingerbread instead of Froyo (2.3.x vs 2.2.x), lots of goodies too many to list. With Tablet Tweaks (built in) and Nook Color Tools, you can tweak the bleep out of your Nook Color in terms of performance. You won't have to worry about OTA updates or the boot loop issue, but you do run into issues such as: "Your device is not compatible" messages when you try to install certain apps from Google Market (there are workarounds for most of them), SOD (Screen of Death, supposedly fixed with latest dalingrin kernel update), wifi issues (disconnect, difficulty connecting, etc.), force closes of random processes if using a nightly build. You could go with the stable build, but honestly the improvements in the nightly builds far outweigh the bugs which get ironed out pretty quickly.
The best part is, you don't even have to install just one of these. If you want, you can either a) dual boot stock + custom rom from EMMC (native Nook Color space), b) boot custom rom from SD install and keep unrooted stock to avoid voiding your warranty if you're concerned about that c) mix and match dual booting etc. It is pretty much impossible to brick your Nook Color.
After several months I've found that I prefer using CM7 builds simply because they are so much more customizable than rooted stock. I would suggest trying out both (stock, rooted or not, + CM7) via the SD card install + stock EMMC if you're not leaning towards one or the other.
Thank you. That was a very clear, concise, and complete answer to my question (and a good excuse for me to use some alliteration).
As I'm not really interested in the eReader functionality of the device, I'm guessing a Manualnootered/CM7(or MIUI) configuration is where I"ll go, at least until I'm sure what will work better for me.
Don't be surprised if you see me popping up in here again, asking more questions.
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm finding myself in a similar situation again.
I've downloaded and successfully been able to run CM7.2 from an SD card, and I've been really impressed with how much faster it makes the Nook run. I'm wanting to push this over to the internal storage so that my family can enjoy the faster performance with all of their stuff on it (I've tested and been able to make a Titanium Backup of a Nook app, which restored correctly in the CM7.2 SD image).
There's one hangup, though - I can't figure out how (if it's possible) to get the stock Nook reader app to work on the CM7.2 image. This wouldn't really be a problem except that I have some "read to me" books that I've paid for that absolutely have to be available on whatever is on the device.
I've looked at this thread in the Tablet section, which has a package that can "re-bloat" the device with the stock reader.
I'd like to do something similar, and I think I have the files needed to do this, but I can't figure out how to push them into the image on the SD card.
-When I open the SD card from my computer, I see all the non-expanded files (e.g. MLO, uRamdisk, uImage, etc.), but no standard Android root directory setup.
-If I attach it to my computer when CM is running, I can see the storage, but not the root directory.
-If I use a root file explorer, I can see the root directory, but I can't mount it as read/write.
-If I use ADB, I can't mount the image as read/write, and adb push fails because it's not read-write.
I'd really like to try and get this working, as I'm not feeling comfortable with messing with the internal setup just yet (I don't want to break something that is working), but I'm guessing I'm hitting a wall because the SD card method is running in some sort of virtualized environment.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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First off, if you want to keep the kid's books, you have to keep stock on internal memory. It is the only way they can run. They won't work on CM. That rebloat pack is just to put the stock nook reader back on stock.
When you put the SD card in the PC it is normal that it sees only the boot partition of the SD.
When you connect your nook to the PC with the USB cable, the PC can only see the internal media partition (emmc) and partition 4 of the SD (sdcard).
Root Explorer will let you read/write if you touch the toggle button at the top of it's screen.
With adb, what are you trying to mount?
Thanks for the reply.
I'm using ES File explorer, which I know works to give me the read/write capabilities, but after mounting /system (and/or /system/app) as read-write, I was not able to write files into because it said that it was not read-write.
With ADB, I was trying to mount either /system or /system/app as rewritable, but I couldn't get it to take.
That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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That's a bummer about the kid's books thing. I was hoping I could use a better rom to get the performance up. Just because I'm curious, what is the issue that keeps the reader from working with the CM roms? Is it some sort of signature problem that B&N checks when you sign in with the reader app?
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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The problem with the kids books is they are not really books. They are interactive applications that the stock reader can access. That is how the books are smart and know how to respond to the kids touches.
And people have tried to take the stock reader and install it on CM, but it will not run.
I assume you are running ES Explorer from CM. CM is already rooted so it should work. I have used ES Explorer a little and it seems to me it had a setting that turned on root access for it.
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Alright. Thanks, that makes a lot more sense.
hey, I am new to the tablet world, I tried to search for this and look in the recent post and didnt really find the answer I was looking for....
So if I buy a new or refurbished Nook Color right now from B&N... will I be able to root it?!
this article is old... so I am not sure if this is the case?
any advice Please
WARNING - READ THIS FIRST: Barnes and Noble has introduced a new hardware revision which bricks your unit if you install their official 1.0.0 Firmware (A step needed to root). As of right now, Nooks with serial #s starting with 1003 (running firmware 1.5) cannot be rooted, and should NOT be attempted. See nookdevs New_Hardware_Revision for more details before you think of trying this!
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from:
nooktalk.net/news/time-to-hack-root-your-nook
THANKS!
cant post the regular link yet
Just buy from eBay or Craigslist you'll find it cheaper n rootable
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Well, where is the difference if I buy it new from eBay?! How is it more or less rootable...? If it is new it is new No matter where it comes from or?!
and 135$ for refurbished didn't seem bad... Or?!
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First.... those may be Nooks and NOT Nook Colors... The newest firmware for Nook Color or Nook Tablets is 1.4.1 and you reference FW ver 1.5.
Also, I don't know of any NC's or NT's with serial numbers below 2000 first 4 digits.
Additionally, with the newer rooting tools available, you don't need to install anything prior to 1.4.1 to root them.
alexwick said:
[...] From:
nooktalk.net/news/time-to-hack-root-your-nook
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At the very top of that article, it states:
Last Updated on Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:54
You might find reading more recent articles a bit more revealing. A few things have happened since 2010.
I am aware the article is old... So short answer...
A new bought nook can be rooted?!?
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Short answer, yes.
My base FW is 1.0.0. I'm running the 20120217 build of Mirage-Kang from eMMC.
I can't imagine how it could get much more rooted than this unless it would be to follow the directions to root it to the letter but if I did that then I wouldn't be much of an Asshole and I am a journeyman Asshole so there you have it.
Oh, and I don't feel terribly compelled to take it out of the case to look at the serial.
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Short answer, yes.
My base FW is 1.0.0. I'm running the 20120217 build of Mirage-Kang from eMMC.
I can't imagine how it could get much more rooted than this unless it would be to follow the directions to root it to the letter but if I did that then I wouldn't be much of an Asshole and I am a journeyman Asshole so there you have it.
Oh, and I don't feel terribly compelled to take it out of the case to look at the serial.
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But do you have a Nook... or a Nook Color?
I mean yeah the Nook is rootable... but I didn't know a Mirage Kang was done for it.
Just ordered a refurbished nook color for 135$ hope will get it rooted fine... Which is the best thread for noobs here to get it rooted?!
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Just ordered a refurbished nook color for 135$ hope will get it rooted fine...
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Since there is a manual nooter for the 1.4, there's no problem rooting it.
Which is the best thread for noobs here to get it rooted?!
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Which rooting do you wish to do? If you want to run the stock B&N apps side by side with apps downloaded from the B&N market, then first register the refurbished system with B&N, then go to NC developer forum and look in "[NC][1.4.1] ManualNooter 5.02.19". That's a couple of minor version steps past the one I used, but it looked like its got it all pulled together from the three different sources of info I used last month.
I wanted to keep Nook Comics support in the stock ereader, so I opted for the manual nooter.
If you want to do a CM7/CM9/MIUI root, which installs alternate firmware for the system instead of modifying the existing firmware to allow Android market apps ... well then, I dunno, as after experimenting with a CM7 sd sidecard, I opted for the manual nooter approach. I'd look in the developer forum for the most recent thread with detailed install instructions for the firmware I wanted to install.
Pretty off topic, but this helped me when I needed to exchange a nook color that I had lost the box for. If you need your serial number, it is inside the flap that covers the micro SD slot.
There are other ways to find it, but if you are on the phone with support and a rooted nook, this is a useful thing.
I also just bought a refurb Nook Color. It is running 1.3.0 out of the box. I want to root it then install CM7. However I can't find any clear posts on how to. Either they are all for earlier FW or 1.4. Should I update to 1.4 before Nootering? If so which MNooter should I use? Or is it recommended to just Nooter 1.3? Again which Mnooter should I use for 1.3?
Thanks
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Since there is a manual nooter for the 1.4, there's no problem rooting it.
Which rooting do you wish to do? If you want to run the stock B&N apps side by side with apps downloaded from the B&N market, then first register the refurbished system with B&N, then go to NC developer forum and look in "[NC][1.4.1] ManualNooter 5.02.19". That's a couple of minor version steps past the one I used, but it looked like its got it all pulled together from the three different sources of info I used last month.
I wanted to keep Nook Comics support in the stock ereader, so I opted for the manual nooter.
If you want to do a CM7/CM9/MIUI root, which installs alternate firmware for the system instead of modifying the existing firmware to allow Android market apps ... well then, I dunno, as after experimenting with a CM7 sd sidecard, I opted for the manual nooter approach. I'd look in the developer forum for the most recent thread with detailed install instructions for the firmware I wanted to install.
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Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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I also just bought a refurb Nook Color. It is running 1.3.0 out of the box. I want to root it then install CM7. However I can't find any clear posts on how to. Either they are all for earlier FW or 1.4. Should I update to 1.4 before Nootering? If so which MNooter should I use? Or is it recommended to just Nooter 1.3? Again which Mnooter should I use for 1.3?
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You do not need to root the B&N firmware before loading CM7. You do need to decide whether you want to run CM7 on internal eMMC or external SD. If you plan to install CM7 to eMMC, you will over-write the B&N firmware, so rooting it is pointless. Once you've decided that, we can point you in the right direction.
There are also guides here on rooting B&N firmware that you can locate with a bit of searching.
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alexwick said:
Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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Yes, you can.
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Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
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Yes, as I said, that's the setup I was using when I decided I prefer a manual nooter. Among your choices, you can:
(1) Replace the stock firmware with an alternative, such as CM7
(2) Run CM7 off a booting SD card and run stock B&N from internal memory
(3) Root the stock B&N system and then load and run Android market apps alongside the B&N built-in and B&N store apps.
I wanted to keep the features of the 1.4.1 ereader, including Nook Comics support, so for me (1) was out, and I only needed a few apps from the Android Store, so I finally settled on (3) to avoid having to boot back and forth between the two systems. But first I did (2) to try things out and get an idea of whether I wanted to root the B&N firmware or replace it with something like CM7.
Can I not install cm7 on the SD and the regular b&n system when boot from internal memory?!
Yes, as I said, that's the setup I was using when I decided I prefer a manual nooter. Among your choices, you can:
(1) Replace the stock firmware with an alternative, such as CM7
(2) Run CM7 off a booting SD card and run stock B&N from internal memory
(3) Root the stock B&N system and then load and run Android market apps alongside the B&N built-in and B&N store apps.
I wanted to keep the features of the 1.4.1 ereader, including Nook Comics support, so for me (1) was out, and I only needed a few apps from the Android Store, so I finally settled on (3) to avoid having to boot back and forth between the two systems. But first I did (2) to try things out and get an idea of whether I wanted to root the B&N firmware or replace it with something like CM7.
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It think I wanna go for option 2&3, can I not root the B&N internal system and also run CM 7 from SD card?
Do I have to take the SD card in and out depending in which one i wanna boot!?
Also another question... The whole reason this rooting is done if I understand correctly is to have access to all the systems in the NC, where do I get the Apps from ? Do I still have to get them through the market? Or can I download them somewhere!?
Got a question... Git my nook today, and it seems to be lagging quite a bit sometimes... Is that normal? Sometimes tottaly unresponsive... Is this normal?!
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alexwick said:
It think I wanna go for option 2&3, can I not root the B&N internal system and also run CM 7 from SD card?
Do I have to take the SD card in and out depending in which one i wanna boot!?
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Taking the SD card in and out depending on which one I wanted to boot, then full power off and power on was the way I did it. Don't know if there's a better way, but never saw a better way mentioned.
You can indeed run CM7 from an SD card and root the B&N internal system. That would allow you to use Nook Tweaks in the CM7 side to, for example, run a keyboard off the USB port and overclock the chip ~ neither of which you can do with the stock kernel ~ and still have the use of the 1.4.1 ereader for Nook Comics or media-enhanced ebooks.
Get a main microSD card for the CM7 SD card install. Follow the CM7 SD card instructions to do the CM7 SD card install on the big card.
And then get another microSD card (2GB Class 4 is plenty) and follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions to root the stock B&N kernel.
Also another question... The whole reason this rooting is done if I understand correctly is to have access to all the systems in the NC, where do I get the Apps from ? Do I still have to get them through the market? Or can I download them somewhere!?
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If you follow the CM7 SD card install directions, you will have access to the full Android Market on that install. Same thing if you follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions ~ you will have access to the Android Market via the Nook Color Application Manager, and if you want can put the Android Market on the B&N Home Screen.
Its best to have a gmail.com account already, for the Android market registration, so sign up for one of those before starting the process if you don't already have one. And from the Android Market, you can also install the other markets (Amazon, 1mobile, GetJar) if you prefer one of those.
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Got a question... Git my nook today, and it seems to be lagging quite a bit sometimes... Is that normal? Sometimes tottaly unresponsive... Is this normal?!
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It can be laggy, especially if you have too much load on it. Sometimes I'm surprised at how many windows I have open in the stock browser. Turning it all the way off will shut down apps that you may have left unclosed, free up RAM, and its normally back to its normal self.
Mind, the gurus have Android apps that can be used to shut down individual apps, but the brute force approach seems to work for me.
thanks for the quick detailed reply...
for the LAGS, well I dont have hardly anything open... the only thing i installed and bought was from the market. Angry Birds... and it seems sometime it will not respond to the throwing of the bird, but just scale the screen... even to exit the game and after the game is closed it seems to not respond properly... having to tap a button 5 times until it responds... and than it works fine after a reboot... and than a couple hours later same thing in the game... ..
also it seems like internetpages like nick.com seem to load forever and are very laggy. I ahve a 10 MBIT Internet connectio over wifi, so that shouldnt be a problem....
To teh dual Systems...Do I also need a second 2GB card for the rooted internal stock system, or is that just for the installation of it!?
I actually do have a 16 GB and a 2 GB at home already...
"If you follow the CM7 SD card install directions, you will have access to the full Android Market on that install. Same thing if you follow the 1.4.1 manual nooter instructions ~ you will have access to the Android Market via the Nook Color Application Manager, and if you want can put the Android Market on the B&N Home Screen."
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Well on my android phone... most of the apps are available I believe for free on the forums... is this similar here... or do I have to buy them!? BTW My phone is not rooted...
The System is some 1.3 version I received... will I need to update to 1.4 first!?
I also do already have a gmail account... its a german one though [email protected] but that should be fine ... It is the german GMAIL
Also linked the nook to th BN Store I believe...Is tehre any waay to check?!
Should I not be able to stream netflix... with the regular nook!?
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR TIME !!!!
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... also it seems like internetpages like nick.com seem to load forever and are very laggy. I ahve a 10 MBIT Internet connectio over wifi, so that shouldnt be a problem....
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That's just the stock Android Browser and an 800MHz single core system with 512Mb RAM plowing through a site with all the bells and whistles and targetted at a PC. Try the Dolphin HD browser (its in the B&N store, and its free so no worry about having to re-download it from the Android market to your CM7 install) ... it has an option to hold off flash content until you actually want to run it that can really speed up some sites.
To teh dual Systems...Do I also need a second 2GB card for the rooted internal stock system, or is that just for the installation of it!?
I actually do have a 16 GB and a 2 GB at home already...
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Installation ... you want a good sized card for the CM7 install, and reading and storing an image from a large card, then formatting it and writing the install card image, then saving the install card image, formatting, and restoring the CM7 install image is a royal pain.
Note that you probably want to keep the install card as a bootable recovery card. 1GB is enough to do the manual noot, but 2GB is enough to hold the recovery of the original stock B&N before you do the manual root. 4GB is even better, as it can hold a recovery of the stock B&N as well as a recovery of the system right after it is manually nooted, in case you do something later to get it messed up.
And you can get a 4GB Class 4 card for $5 with free shipping from Amazon ~ the new 32GB flash cards have pushed the price of the smaller ones way down ~ so to my mind that's worth it to be able to set aside a recovery card.
Well on my android phone... most of the apps are available I believe for free on the forums... is this similar here... or do I have to buy them!? BTW My phone is not rooted...
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Yes. There are paid apps, but both the CM7 install or the manual nooter give full access to a wide range of free apps on the main Android Market, and allow you to install 1mobile, GetJar, or Amazon if you prefer any of those markets.
The System is some 1.3 version I received... will I need to update to 1.4 first!?
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Not for the SD card install of CM7. Be sure to follow the instructions for making an SD card install on a 1.3 system.
You'll want to upgrade for a rooted stock B&N Kernel to 1.4.2, because its only 1.4 that has the updated ereader, Nook Color tailored Netflix app, likely B&N Store HuluPlus this Friday ... if you were replacing the stock Kernel, there's be no reason to update, and the installs for the 1.3 system are more mature ... but if you want to keep the B&N Kernel, upgrade to 1.4.2. before you lock it down from further OTA updates.
I also do already have a gmail account... its a german one though [email protected] but that should be fine ... It is the german GMAIL
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I'd don't know from personal experience, but I've seen some warnings about it being best to have a gmail.com account. Just to be safe, I'd sign up for a gmail.com account and give your primary gmail account as the email account used to confirm that you are a real person. Save it in an "Accounts" folder in your main gmail if you are unlikely to use it for anything except the Android market.
Also linked the nook to th BN Store I believe...Is tehre any waay to check?!
Should I not be able to stream netflix... with the regular nook!?
ONCE AGAIN THANKS FOR YOUR TIME !!!!
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Before you start working on the unit, go to the store (its on the navbar) search for apps and download a free app. Dolphin HD is a good one. If it downloads and installs, you are linked to the B&N store.
Hello,
I would like to root a Nook Simple Touch GlowLight. The only reason for doing this is to install Kindle for Android. I have found three particularly popular threads for achieving this:
NookManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351
TouchNooter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343143
GlowNooter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
Can you please advise which of these I would be best to follow? Can you also recommend anything else that I must (or should) do following the recommended procedure - Any particular apps or configurations for either optimal enjoyment of Kindle for Android or the usability of the device (regarding refresh, etc).
Thank you.
LavaChild0809 said:
Hello,
I would like to root a Nook Simple Touch GlowLight. The only reason for doing this is to install Kindle for Android. I have found three particularly popular threads for achieving this:
NookManager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351
TouchNooter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343143
GlowNooter
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
Can you please advise which of these I would be best to follow? Can you also recommend anything else that I must (or should) do following the recommended procedure - Any particular apps or configurations for either optimal enjoyment of Kindle for Android or the usability of the device (regarding refresh, etc).
Thank you.
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I have only used two of above for 4 x NST not a NSTG so far.
Now I've literally got two NSTG arrived today waiting at home for me to play with (Just been reduced to £49 in UK so I expect a lot more visitors to this forum asking such questions).
If your new to Nook simple touch devices then please be aware of firmwares. A lot of older more mature stuff for NST relies on the v1.1 firmware base. All new NST and NSTG in UK and other places will already be on v1.2 from factory.
NookManager is newer and supports v2. It has a backup feature. Before anything else boot off it. Backup your NSTG. Connect usb cable to PC while using Nookmanager and copy the backup to a PC.
I would also use Noogie and make another backup a different way.
That way if you screw anything up and or don't like root method you can go back.
Before rooting I strongly recommend registering your stock nook and if your going to stick with version 2 update to latest one following instructions on B&N website.
Touchnooter is a lot older and I tend to use that when I am using a v1 base (you lose some features but can gain a very quick lag free multitouch norefresh NST).
I have never used glownooter. Obviously it sounds more NSTG specific which is a good thing.
Personally I don't know how much the NST and NSTG differ internally. Certainly if you start messing around with different kernels make sure they support NSTG or you may lose the glow ability.
I will be trying the NookManager route first. Highly recommend coolreader app as alternative to BnN reader.
I'll let you know how it goes with mine. I will be using it stock for little while first though.
Oh the kindle app did not work that great when I tried it. If you really want kindle that much is it worth buying one..... Certainly if its not up to your standard then use your backup return nook to stock. Only then de-register device and return it.
If running v2 firmware then rather than norefresh (works best on v1) you would be after fastmode. I would not recommend that for reading ebooks. Scrolling PDFs maybe.
Crispy
Noogie guide for backing up
You can use winimage mention in above guide to stick Nookmanager on a sdcard too.
When booting off Nookmanager say no to wifi, Rescue->Backup, Use rest of space on SD card, create backup.
Obviously make sure your device is well charged and choose a big enough sd card to hold the backup. Its about 300MB compressed. As the backup is stored on a second partiton on the sd card windows won't easily be able to access it. To copy to PC once complete plug a usb cable in while running nookmanager and it will appear as mass storage device. Some of my nook's usb cables were charge only ones (very handy) so if cable is thin and long use a different cable.
Also for others reading the NSTG also comes with the most compact usb charger I've ever seen. Its actually smaller than my samsung one. NST comes with no charger.
Based on this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961835 avoid using glownooter
To get fastmode working I've confirmed v166 kernel works with glowlight.
Thank you for your reply
Perhaps you might be able to help here, too?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46539085
Thanks again!
The nook glow-light I am trying to root has 1.1.5 firmware. The device got rooted but the market app doesn't work properly in order to download the opera browser (the other one doesn't work either), and the amazon app store keeps telling me: "Please enter a valid email and password" and doesn't let me log in with the same credentials that I use to log in from my pc. The opera app isn't even listed among the handful of apps listed on the Market app. What can the problem be? How can it be fixed? If I can't properly use this old nook model as an e-ink android I will have to return it. The only reason I purchased it was to root it.
If anyone know the fix please explain it to me in simple terms as I am not a great tech savvy.
Thx.
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The nook glow-light I am trying to root has 1.1.5 firmware. The device got rooted but the market app doesn't work properly in order to download the opera browser (the other one doesn't work either), and the amazon app store keeps telling me: "Please enter a valid email and password" and doesn't let me log in with the same credentials that I use to log in from my pc. The opera app isn't even listed among the handful of apps listed on the Market app. What can the problem be? How can it be fixed? If I can't properly use this old nook model as an e-ink android I will have to return it. The only reason I purchased it was to root it.
If anyone know the fix please explain it to me in simple terms as I am not a great tech savvy.
Thx.
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You should definitely return to stock firmware and update to 1.2.1 before anything else. Then, you can re-root and enjoy.
Restoring to stock and re-rooting can be done with the NookManager rooting tool. Updating your software version can be done by following the instructions at B&N.
Hi anyone
Please help me with my questions below, I picked up a Nook for predominantly reading only but wanted one or two apps to be installed from play store.
1. How to sideload books onto the Nook simple touch. I have loads of PDF on my hard drive and epub books. For this do I need to root at all?
2. I see that the rooting solutions on youtube all show 'android market' instead of 'Play store' - but also see these videos are several years old. So are there any new ways to root and get 'play store'.
3. How to sideload APKs not from Play store?
4. I am mainly looking to use Bible app like Quick Bible from the Play Store if not I would have to go and find the APK to side load it.
5. If something goes wrong can I get back to the factory setting of original Nook.
I like in some of the videos that the rooting still retained the original Nook screens and additionally there were options to go and select the apps from the side. Is this how all the rooted Nooks work?
Please suggest a more recent easier thread that can support all of my above queries.
thanks
S
sany said:
1. How to sideload books onto the Nook simple touch. I have loads of PDF on my hard drive and epub books. For this do I need to root at all?
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No. You can copy epubs and PDFs directly onto the NST internal memory or onto an installed SD card.
2. I see that the rooting solutions on youtube all show 'android market' instead of 'Play store' - but also see these videos are several years old. So are there any new ways to root and get 'play store'.
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You are correct in that those are all out-of-date. No PlayStore access via Google Apps since 2017. Google apps themselves are available only in a limited form. See the post on updating NTGAppsAttack. The Yalp Store app, however, can access the PlayStore without Google Apps and can be installed by NookManager (see the post on updating NookManager)
3. How to sideload APKs not from Play store?
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Copy the apk files from your PC to the NST via USB and install via a file manager, or install via ADB.
4. I am mainly looking to use Bible app like Quick Bible from the Play Store if not I would have to go and find the APK to side load it.
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Yes, that part is always interesting. Not many apps in the PlayStore work for Android 2.1 and even those that theoretically do sometimes decline to run on the NST. I've seen mention of Bible apps on the forum so your best bet may be to search for that and see what worked for others.
5. If something goes wrong can I get back to the factory setting of original Nook.
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Yes, unless you wipe out the factory recovery (not recommended by me).
I like in some of the videos that the rooting still retained the original Nook screens and additionally there were options to go and select the apps from the side. Is this how all the rooted Nooks work?
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Sort of. NookManager is not very invasive and you can--to some extent--tailor the few apps it installs to suit your wants. After that, it's sort of up to you. Some people want to wipe out all the B&N stuff (not my choice), others not so much. Depends on how you use your device--and that can evolve.
Please suggest a more recent easier thread that can support all of my above queries.
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Seems like you just started one.
nmyshkin said:
Yes, unless you wipe out the factory recovery (not recommended by me).
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Hi Thanks.
Just another clarification. So after I install Nook Manager - irrespective of whether I make a backup or not, by default there will be a factory recovery already in the device, correct?
I read somewhere in the thread that we make a backup and keep the SD card saved in a safe place additionally to saving the backup image as an additional backup. Can you please explain this further.
Say for example, I use the SD card image to install nook manager - do i use the same card as is to create a backup? Sorry I am asking for too many information!
thanks again
S
sany said:
Hi Thanks.
Just another clarification. So after I install Nook Manager - irrespective of whether I make a backup or not, by default there will be a factory recovery already in the device, correct?
I read somewhere in the thread that we make a backup and keep the SD card saved in a safe place additionally to saving the backup image as an additional backup. Can you please explain this further.
Say for example, I use the SD card image to install nook manager - do i use the same card as is to create a backup? Sorry I am asking for too many information!
thanks again
S
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Unless you intentionally replace or delete the factory recovery image, you can return to an out-of-the-box state by powering down, then powering up and holding the two lower hardware buttons at the first sign of the "your Nook is starting up" screen until a screen prompt appears. In fact, it would probably be a good idea to do that when you first get the device. You never know what has been done to it by the previous owner.
NookManager is a utility, not an installation. It resides on the SD card you prepare and can be used, as you say, to make backups of "work-in-progress" as well as an out-of-the-box backup, if you wish. The backups are stored by default on the NookManager SD card itself, but there is only provision for one. A new one will overwrite the old one. If you want to keep a few backups as you make changes to your NST, you can copy the backups to your PC if you connect your NST with the USB cable while NookManager is running. This condition makes the otherwise invisible backup partition on the card visible to your PC.
Thank you!
S