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are we waiting on the official 2.1 to be released to get more fully functioning roms?
do you guys see more apps and themes being made for our cdma heros in the near future?
id love one day to see as many options on the cdma versions as they have for gsm.
any thoughts or input on this guys? what would you like to see?
maybe even the possibility of porting webos or maybe even winmo to our phones? i don't see why not as winmo can port android. it's not on the top of my list but it would be cool to play with.
Dude. You start a lot of threads man lol. But yeah, Android 1.5 was made for GSM, and HTC had to do some crazy wackjob stuff to make it work for CDMA. Android 1.6 started including CDMA support, and Android will continue to support CDMA from 1.6 on out. So basically, once 2.1 comes out officially, I believe we will be in business. You should just chill out a little bit about the whole being bored and what's gonna happen stuff, and just enjoy your device. The HERO is a great phone, and it's only gonna get better!
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Dude. You start a lot of threads man lol. But yeah, Android 1.5 was made for GSM, and HTC had to do some crazy wackjob stuff to make it work for CDMA. Android 1.6 started including CDMA support, and Android will continue to support CDMA from 1.6 on out. So basically, once 2.1 comes out officially, I believe we will be in business. You should just chill out a little bit about the whole being bored and what's gonna happen stuff, and just enjoy your device. The HERO is a great phone, and it's only gonna get better!
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yeah but i like to discuss, hence why we are on a forum.
Haha.. Yeah think it would be kinda cool to have WinMo on our phones, too; although I doubt I would use it for more than a day or two. Our Devs are seriously working hard getting the DEV-ROMs working and they're doing a ****ing great job. I can't wait to see what comes after the official update!!!
So... this might be a stupid question, but exactly what are we looking to see in the 2.1? I don't have any problems with my phone now, a little laggy and short battery life but I plan to get a new battery on payday. So, what is so great that people are actually talking about unrooting to go to the Official 2.1? I wouldn't unroot for anything they could possibly put in there. What if I'm at a friends and need internet and he doesn't have any? I gotta be able to tether. i can always use PDAnet, but its just not the same. And no longer being able to control the CPU, etc. And I love flashing all the new roms that come out and experimenting with the awesome stuff the Devs crank out, so really what is gonna be so awesome about 2.1?
i actually saw a guy on here with a pic of his hero with winmob 7 on his hero...don't know if it was legit or not, but nice to see
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i actually saw a guy on here with a pic of his hero with winmob 7 on his hero...don't know if it was legit or not, but nice to see
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i debunked that this morning. it was a photoshop job. wm7 cannot run on any current device out there let alone an android phone.
smh @ that guy tricking people
still would be pretty cool to see it ported over
lol that was me.. not meant to trick.... but to... inspire...? yeah.
and again.... NO PHOTOSHOP WAS USED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So... this might be a stupid question, but exactly what are we looking to see in the 2.1? I don't have any problems with my phone now, a little laggy and short battery life but I plan to get a new battery on payday. So, what is so great that people are actually talking about unrooting to go to the Official 2.1? I wouldn't unroot for anything they could possibly put in there. What if I'm at a friends and need internet and he doesn't have any? I gotta be able to tether. i can always use PDAnet, but its just not the same. And no longer being able to control the CPU, etc. And I love flashing all the new roms that come out and experimenting with the awesome stuff the Devs crank out, so really what is gonna be so awesome about 2.1?
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Because when Sprint releases 2.1, then our devs will be able to take all the amazing-ness from 2.1 and combine it with the amazing-ness of having root access! Until then, we're just using hacks and leaks to get what we can get.
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Because when Sprint releases 2.1, then our devs will be able to take all the amazing-ness from 2.1 and combine it with the amazing-ness of having root access! Until then, we're just using hacks and leaks to get what we can get.
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And we'll have the actual kernel instead of stuff with backported drivers.
well to me 2.1 was the holy grail until today.
The Dream rom has Flash 10.1, so its my new holy grail.
Oh, I agree totally that it will be awesome when the devs get their hands on all the 2.1 stuff, but what about the people talking about unrooting for the official upgrade? I guess what I'm really asking is...what amazing-ness? What are we waiting for? Will the phone make us breakfast in the morning and grab beer for us once we get 2.1? I'm in here every day like the rest, checking for updates on 2.1 status and waiting impatiently for the release, but again I ask..what am I waiting for? More speed? Less bloatware? Bug fixes? I'm just curious, I know that going from 1.29 to 1.56 fixed the massive lag when going from portrait to landscape and the original MMS issue, etc. But I really didn't notcie a diff in my phone after the upgrade. Seriously, what are we looking for in this new update?
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Will the phone make us breakfast in the morning and grab beer for us once we get 2.1?
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I'm down for that one
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And we'll have the actual kernel instead of stuff with backported drivers.
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Official .29 kernel or not. I bet once camera is backported most devs will use the modded .27 kernel to optimise their builds until .29 source is released. The main things we will get from the official release is the frameworks, a few and apks to allow for all of Sprints stuff to work. And I've almost managed that already but yeah other advantages of 2.1 are vwp, better frameworks, better opengl, better apps, UIs, and a better os all together. I know ill make sure the build is ready for all the root users on day one. If its not already leaked by then.
let's hope for a HERO200 leak then!
come on single unruly mischevious HTC employee....if you do this, then we promise we won't bother you like we did to get the source code..
Figured i find out which roms you guys out there have tried and what your experience have been,
For myself
i have tried out any i can find but have always wiped cleaned, and found that the most stable from my experience has been
5.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N15.0.3.1-N1
any thoughts and or comments are appreciated
and thank guys working on roms
for all your work
regards,
M3manny
Stock ROM... no issues at all...
Sense UI/Cyanogen..currently running Cyanogen till Sense UI gets cleaned up
Normally, I am one to root as soon as it is unboxed, however, with this phone, I have not rooted it yet.
Mainly for the fact that it is working so well, I can't see why...
Now, I LOVE the dev's here and WILL root my phone once some of these ROM's are a bit more stable. I'm not saying they are bad, just that the features I use regularly are not working as well as I would like based on feedback.
As always though, the Dev's here step up and do a fantastic job getting things done and working, I will be compelled to root and mod... I can't wait for that day!
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Stock ROM... no issues at all...
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Limping on one foot with half a brain is a non issue.
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Limping on one foot with half a brain is a non issue.
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Thanks for letting me know... I'll be sure to watch for ya...
In all seriousness though, the stock ROM, at the moment, has its benefits over those that are out now.
Mainly, everything works (at least for me).
BT, Wi-Fi, Camera/Flash, sync and the list goes on and on...
Once ERE36B is release OTA, I am sure most of these custom ROM issues will clear up and there will be more reason to root and flash.
For now, just going to keep watching the forums.
I made it a whole day on the Desire Alpha 10, but the battery life was killing me. I really like the HTC Exchange integration and all the Sense widgets, but there were too many other trade offs.
I'm back on cynanogen. It's not flashy but everything works.
Not trying to Convince you to root your phone, or make an argument here, but in my own experience. The custom N1 ROMs that are up for grab right now are pretty stable. It does everything the stock ROM can do and more. Heck even Modaco's alpha version of the desire ROM is near perfect.
As far as picking my favorite though, of have to give it up to Enomther, and Cyanogen's N1 ROMs and Modaco's Desire ROM.
Can't thank these guys enough and all the devs here, that's making this a fun ride for all of us!
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Thanks for letting me know... I'll be sure to watch for ya...
In all seriousness though, the stock ROM, at the moment, has its benefits over those that are out now.
Mainly, everything works (at least for me).
BT, Wi-Fi, Camera/Flash, sync and the list goes on and on...
Once ERE36B is release OTA, I am sure most of these custom ROM issues will clear up and there will be more reason to root and flash.
For now, just going to keep watching the forums.
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For me, Alpha10 Desire ROM FTW.
Does 10.1 work in the desire rom?
Yes sir it does.
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Does 10.1 work in the desire rom?
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/htc-legend-already-trickling-into-customers-waiting-hands/
so it seems some people are getting these phones early now if im correct this phone runs android 2.1 with sense. maybe someone who gets one of these can get us a dump for the devs.
I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.
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I've had the whole ruu for a few weeks and ported it to work. It's basically the same as the 2 2.1 roms everyone is building from now. Other then fm radio that we already know won't work on our devices. The legend builds are also older builds then the Eris build I ported. The heroc build fresh released with the .29 kernel is actually newer then the Eris build by one day. And the most current build of 2.1 I've found. The only reasons I haven't released the legend build. Is for one we have newer builds and two it has issues with our speaker and Mic. The build is exactly the same as flipz heroc build. So were not gonna gain much from building off of if. It's also a gsm build that will need a lot of fixing to be as functional as the current newer builds. In my opinion its not worth the time to port something older then the current builds.
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The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?
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The one thing i saw on the vids, of note, was the browser's enhanced text selection features (think it had translate, wikipedia, n some other stough whenever you select text)..is that something port-able?
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i didnt see that in it. ill boot it up tonight sometime and check.
had no idea it was gsm lol oh well. i just keep hopin to get ahold of that friend stream widget lol
too bad it's gsm. that's a sharp looking phone.
ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball
that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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ya it sure is the unibody and all would be nice and the optical trackball
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2010/03/pershoots-2-6-32-kernel-tutorial/
did u see this to bad its gsm as well lol
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that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.
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that was in the build also. lol ok fine ill fix audio and make a build it wont be tonight though. i gotta have some time. been working on this aosp multitouch issue. i dont use aosp but i want to know those who do dont have to suffer without a camera
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if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.
to me the biggest reason for continuing all these 2.1 roms. when the official comes out whenever its suppose to to me is that once the official actually does come out its alot easier to work with since the dev's are familiar with it
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if i wanted aosp i would of gotten anything besides a hero but the interface seemed so much nicer with sense it really was the whole decision for me with sense on this phone.
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well your not everyone
fixxxer2008 said:
let me ask you this, why put all the effort into this 2.1 port when the official update will be coming soon and then you will have to make another rom but fully functional already.
no offense, just seems like it's kinda pointless when we have the update coming this month.
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well just because we have a sprint 2.1 build doesnt mean we will get what all other buildsa have. we may not get friendstream and if thats the case then we will need new frameworks to support it. once sprint releases 2.1 doesnt make it the end of the road for porting other builds. one build may have some new function built into it. take espresso for example... its ui was totally different then any other. then we move on to other builds. some dont include certain htc apps. its almost like htc has a catalog with a gang load of options. the carrier or buyer may not wanna pay for a colorful ui they may only want it gray scale like eris is. or they may want all the colored icons like flipz's build and legend. every build is different. beleive this as soon as sprint gives us a 2.1 build. it will be extreamly simple to make an update.zip of it. no porting required at all. at this point i only want sprint to release because then that means we will get kernel source for .29. at that point if we already havent ported it ourselves(like last time) we can move on to bigger better things. but... as ive already seen were gonna need source for some of these new builds. our device is old and needs more space. so were gonna need to compile modules to squash the system down to a usable size and use other modules like ramswap and such to make up for or lack of hardware. were being outdated fast. android is finally developing into something to kick the other os's asses.
ps i do stuff to help everyone. whether i use their builds or not.
I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.
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I am wondering about something concerning the new trackpad replacing the trackball in these new devices. How is this haedware switch going to affect recovery (if at all)? I mean will just "tapping" the trackpad work just as pushing the track button. Just something to think about.
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well when u boot into recovery. it loads ur kernel and all of its drivers. im sure that it can be made aware of a trckpad if its not already.
I love the build of the device but after the hero I don't think ill settle for a inferior processor again especially after reading the reviews.
some people prefer aosp to sense. when i first bought the phone i liked sense but honestly after a few months i found that sense isnt worth the space its code takes up.
@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work
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@toast
does the legend Rom have FriendStream and NewsReader?
I have been trying to get these to run under fresh 2.0 but it just will not work
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hey don't mean to step on toasts toes or anything but ya i've tried to install the friendstream apk from a few different 2.1 apps and its a no go and im not sure why but as of now and from what i have seen they don't work
Just went to look at the dev section. Come on... Really?
Is a big selection a problem?
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FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.
Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
It's not that bad - there were times when you could choose from really different ROMs, but then Cyanogen started to support G1 with his CyanogenMod and these days there's only few the bravest who try to build their ROM from AOSP, not from CM source.
So it's like CM AND themed/renamed/scripted MC.
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Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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That isn't a belief. Its a FACT.
And newbs like you should mind their manners.
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Is a big selection a problem?
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In terms of trying them all to find a preferred one? I guess it's up to the person and how much time they have.
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Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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Sorry to offend you chap. I love innovation fwiw. I like the skinning of the CM base too. But again, wow, there are a lot. Thanks for commenting!
I miss this about my MT3G.
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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.
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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.
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Heh, it's like when I first got my G1 and watching the android store: "Oh! There's another one!".
I've been around since the beginning and you are right about how "sweet" and exciting it was when the updates came fast and furious. I guess I've been spoiled by that experience, and now it seems to me there are two pages of same ol' different bonnet.
To be clear, not saying this is a bad thing.
yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know
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yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know
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I always keep going back to Chromium.
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FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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I always keep going back to Chromium.
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I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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True dat! I've been using since it was released, are you ever going to update it?
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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He said virtually. And cause yours ain't cm based, im DEF gonna give it a try! Are you planning on getting cam working? Is it you own kernel? Nm, I'll just go read your thread. =]
Oh wait! If I recall you had the first "froyo" right! I was just remembering how that rom was stable for a week with no slowdowns! It just had missing functionality.... I missed that your still developing, I thought you stopped on froyo cause of cm. Going to look for it now. Thx
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I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?
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Chromium 4.5. It's in the first two pages, I'm on an iPad now so posting links is like pulling teeth, sorry. I've been on Super F now for 24+ hours and it's pretty good too.
Anyone able to recommend a donut or eclair that is still being maintained I would be much obliged.
aaaah I think its called "Chromatic", not "Chromium", thats why I couldnt find it.. lol
ill give it a try, but anyways, Im still looking for a very light 2.1 to see if I can get more battery life and RAM
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/entries/show/6282349-android-2-3-2-leaks-for-galaxy-s-
This is a just leaked rom for the galaxy s. hopefully the devs can use it for the vibrant.
well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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well even if not at least we know now that Samsung wasn't lying about March for the euro/Asian markets.
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+1, Samsung might actually hold up to their promises this time around! Or, probably not.
more details - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=974117
GINGERBREAD leaked
damb, this is so great, im thinking maybe tonight we might have a port for the vibrant, and i wonder if eugene and krylon know about this considering, it just today got leaked, a few hours ago.............. anyways, everyone post on this, lets get the hype going, we want this baby ported ASAP.. always thanks so much eugene and krylon, my brothers of galaxy android
So far from what i've read over there...
Looks like quadrant scores are not improved over 2.2 which is what i'm sure most people are hoping for. It also appears that the screen off animation is not present in the rom. It's also using Touchwiz 3.0 and not 4. Market is broken, and gingerbread keyboard also not included. Looks like an early beta build from what i've read.
**edit**
market is working, they have root access, and they are in the process of deodexing.
So far from what i've read over there...
damn double post. please delete
Sweet, hope we can get some cooked roms soon
The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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The bad thing about it, it uses touchwiz 3.0, not stock.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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Im using cm7 right now. Cant wait to be finished.
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True but we have CM7 for that. I was looking forward to TW 4.0. Cant wait to try out both.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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did they do that much improvement on tw 4.0 to make it all exciting and everyone wanting it now.
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There are videos on youtube if you want to see.
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Man how things have turned around for us Vibrant owners. Source... 2.2.1 roms/ports... unofficial CM7.. And now this. We can finally be proud Vibrant owners
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Nice, hopefully we will be able to use this to our advantage?
Also, couldn't we flash this since we now have the kernel that allow us to flash i900 ROMS? If we could just flash those files, then flash the kernel through Odin somehow it might work. Idk though, I'm no dev.
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The kernel that allows us to flash i9000 ROMs is only 2.2 and 2.2.1 compatible. I'm pretty sure someone would have to build a new kernel to let us flash that or port the ROM over.
The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
No TV-off?! NOooOoO!
(not being sarcastic)
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The crowds are getting restless over there. They're in an uproar about "this is missing" and "that is missing". One of the complaints is about the gingerbread wallpaper being missing. But these guys forget that our 2.1 devices didn't come with stock 2.1 walls. They instead came with whatever wallpapers samsung gave us. Overall it's starting to sound more complete than the first froyo leaks that we used to have which is reassuring. Some of the guys say that the leak is stable and everything is working on their devices. One of the nice improvements they're reporting is functioning hardware acceleration.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Funny to see their behavior over it when we are just sinking our teeth into 2.2.1. Maybe its a good thing though.. I myself am so pleased with the performance boost of 2.2.1 that I'm in no rush to flash again but of course I'm in the minority on that.
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Na I'm with you on that, running Bionix 1.3 and it really is just as fast as CM7 was for. Really the only thing that gingerbread had over this ROM is that the applications list loaded faster. Plus on this I have themes