First off I have had nothing but problems running user made/altered kernals, they always hang my cpu at 100% after the phone had been running for 40+ hours.
Anyway I am currently on the (official) fast charging 2.6.32.17 kernal. But is there anyway I can get the newer version? The .27 one?
I'ma let you finish, but...
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Sorry bro.
Not sure there is a .27 kernel for the Incredible yet, but if there is it would probably be linked from the "HTC Droid Incredible - Official Kernel Thread," located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866736
Hey mates,
I'm pretty sure you all have heard of Gingerbreak.
I thought it would be helpful for all DHD users to know which ROM Version can be rooted with Gingerbreak (maybe some Froyo versions as well).
It would be great if you could share your experiences.
DN41
It cannot permroot a DHD, but it might be useful in the future (for downgrading) if psneuter does not work with new gingerbread builds. It works with all the current leaks.
I've been reading the thread in the dev forum about the leaked Chinese sbf that is Froyo based but with BL6 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731
I was thinking - would this allow a Defy+ owner with either a BL5 or BL6 flashed sbf to flash the chinese BL6 Froyo SBF and then install Quarx Froyo Kernel builds of ICS?
It's been a while since Epsylon's Gingerbread ICS builds have been updated and was wondering if this would be an opportunity for us Defy+ owners to hop onto the Froyo kernel builds. Perhaps even could be the precursor to development of ICS for both the MB525 and MB526 being merged into one build so the dev's can pool together and work on just the one build.
I've only just got my Defy+ so am not well clued up on this- would be grateful for other more experienced owners take on the above before I try and brick my phone!
I think you can use this if you haven't flashed a bld 7 rom. Keep in mind that it is a bld 6 rom so you can never flash a bld 5 rom afterward directly. Also, there aren't many people who have tried it No garanty.
But with a defy+ you can always flash a bld 6 defy+ rom if it didn't work.
I think my Defy+ was last flashed with a BLD5 rom so will have to think carefully if I want to go up to 6 first. I've snagged the Chinese SBF and a Froyo 2.2 CEE Nandroid so will keep an eye on that thread and see what feedback comes of trying this. I did notice one person has already tried this and says their running WIUI which I could never try being on a >=BLD5 rom.
I would like to check what BLD my current ROM has me set at. Is there a way to examine the sbf to find this out? I've tried googling for an answer but am struggling to come up with anything.
In settings > about phone you can find the build number.
You can find the links to the threat of you rom here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
If there isn't a threat, there is a script to check for the version.
Thanks for the heads up on how to find the smg build number.
I split the sbf with http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=550748&d=1300980924 and ran the smg checking script from http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=835336&d=1325246979 against the files and found the last time I flashed my phone I must have already upped my BL to 6.
Then you can try the sbf without risk (apart form losing data of course) as you can always just flash your current rom again and you'll be back.
Hi, I have questions with my defy+ relating to kernels and Bootloader. I'm not new here but things got really confusing when i changed my defy with defy+. So here are the questions. I've seen many people asking on kernels in ROM threads but nobody give precise answer as far as I know.
There many ROMs for froyo kernel and gingerbread kernel out there but none of them actually say the exact kernel version. What I've found so far is that 2.3.6 cannot be downgraded to froyo kernel. On contrary, there are some posts on downgrading to froyo kernel from gingerbread kernel before flashing the ROM. So can someone explain which kernel versions are considered as froyo kernel and which versions are gb kernels and is it possible to downgrade from gingerbread kernel to froyo kernel as some post said? I know that BL7 cannot be downgraded to BL6 so as long as I have BL6 does it mean that i can flash any kernel and my phone is compatible with ROMs for froyo kernel? ( i know about some issues with battery and camera).
my current kernel version is 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e on android 2.3.4.
I dare not upgrade my defy+ since i bought this. Am I safe to assume that my phone is still with BL6 and can install froyo kernel based ROMs since mine is 2.3.4 is not 2.3.5 or 2.3.6???
Best Regards,
darkcomputer said:
Hi, I have questions with my defy+ relating to kernels and Bootloader. I'm not new here but things got really confusing when i changed my defy with defy+. So here are the questions. I've seen many people asking on kernels in ROM threads but nobody give precise answer as far as I know.
There many ROMs for froyo kernel and gingerbread kernel out there but none of them actually say the exact kernel version. What I've found so far is that 2.3.6 cannot be downgraded to froyo kernel. On contrary, there are some posts on downgrading to froyo kernel from gingerbread kernel before flashing the ROM. So can someone explain which kernel versions are considered as froyo kernel and which versions are gb kernels and is it possible to downgrade from gingerbread kernel to froyo kernel as some post said? I know that BL7 cannot be downgraded to BL6 so as long as I have BL6 does it mean that i can flash any kernel and my phone is compatible with ROMs for froyo kernel? ( i know about some issues with battery and camera).
my current kernel version is 2.6.32.9-gbdd614e on android 2.3.4.
I dare not upgrade my defy+ since i bought this. Am I safe to assume that my phone is still with BL6 and can install froyo kernel based ROMs since mine is 2.3.4 is not 2.3.5 or 2.3.6???
Best Regards,
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Kernels are flashable, interchangable, downgradable, whatever you want to call it.
Now what is generally called the Bootloader or Bootloader version or BL (eg: BL4, BL5, BL6, Bl7) that is something that is affected when you use this software called RSD Lite to flash an "SBF" extension file onto your phone. These files are made by motorola, they are official ROMS as you may know. Now if you flash for example 2.3.6 SBF onto your Defy+ (which is on 2.3.4), they you cannot flash a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 SBF again, only other 2.3.6 SBF's. This is because one file inside these SBF's has a version number. It is version 4 for Froyo ROMs, 5 for 2.3.4 I believe, 6 or 7 for 2.3.6. Now Versions 4, 5, 6 are okay (5 & 6 for defy+), there are many SBF's for these and they can be rooted to install custom recovery, roms etc. Version 7 has no root method yet.
Now there a few "Fixed SBF's" lying around (I think they are all for Defy only though), these are SBF's where that particular file has been removed so it won't change the version number of the file currently flashed on your phone.
Anyway answering your question even if you flash version 5 or 6, you can still flash a Froyo kernel and later flash a GB kernel. Only thing is that Froyo Kernel may not work too well with your Defy+, ie probably the battery won't charge fully. I think since you have 2.3.4, you are at BL5, not BL6.
So don't confuse Kernels with downgradability. Kernels=flashable safely. SBF's=undowngradable.
tejus.k.v said:
Kernels are flashable, interchangable, downgradable, whatever you want to call it.
Now what is generally called the Bootloader or Bootloader version or BL (eg: BL4, BL5, BL6, Bl7) that is something that is affected when you use this software called RSD Lite to flash an "SBF" extension file onto your phone. These files are made by motorola, they are official ROMS as you may know. Now if you flash for example 2.3.6 SBF onto your Defy+ (which is on 2.3.4), they you cannot flash a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 SBF again, only other 2.3.6 SBF's. This is because one file inside these SBF's has a version number. It is version 4 for Froyo ROMs, 5 for 2.3.4 I believe, 6 or 7 for 2.3.6. Now Versions 4, 5, 6 are okay (5 & 6 for defy+), there are many SBF's for these and they can be rooted to install custom recovery, roms etc. Version 7 has no root method yet.
Now there a few "Fixed SBF's" lying around (I think they are all for Defy only though), these are SBF's where that particular file has been removed so it won't change the version number of the file currently flashed on your phone.
Anyway answering your question even if you flash version 5 or 6, you can still flash a Froyo kernel and later flash a GB kernel. Only thing is that Froyo Kernel may not work too well with your Defy+, ie probably the battery won't charge fully. I think since you have 2.3.4, you are at BL5, not BL6.
So don't confuse Kernels with downgradability. Kernels=flashable safely. SBF's=undowngradable.
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Thanks , that was very informative
Thanks..
tejus.k.v said:
Kernels are flashable, interchangable, downgradable, whatever you want to call it.
Now what is generally called the Bootloader or Bootloader version or BL (eg: BL4, BL5, BL6, Bl7) that is something that is affected when you use this software called RSD Lite to flash an "SBF" extension file onto your phone. These files are made by motorola, they are official ROMS as you may know. Now if you flash for example 2.3.6 SBF onto your Defy+ (which is on 2.3.4), they you cannot flash a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 SBF again, only other 2.3.6 SBF's. This is because one file inside these SBF's has a version number. It is version 4 for Froyo ROMs, 5 for 2.3.4 I believe, 6 or 7 for 2.3.6. Now Versions 4, 5, 6 are okay (5 & 6 for defy+), there are many SBF's for these and they can be rooted to install custom recovery, roms etc. Version 7 has no root method yet.
Now there a few "Fixed SBF's" lying around (I think they are all for Defy only though), these are SBF's where that particular file has been removed so it won't change the version number of the file currently flashed on your phone.
Anyway answering your question even if you flash version 5 or 6, you can still flash a Froyo kernel and later flash a GB kernel. Only thing is that Froyo Kernel may not work too well with your Defy+, ie probably the battery won't charge fully. I think since you have 2.3.4, you are at BL5, not BL6.
So don't confuse Kernels with downgradability. Kernels=flashable safely. SBF's=undowngradable.
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Thanks.. you explained very well and cleared my confusion. I hope this can help new users too..
tejus.k.v said:
Kernels are flashable, interchangable, downgradable, whatever you want to call it.
Now what is generally called the Bootloader or Bootloader version or BL (eg: BL4, BL5, BL6, Bl7) that is something that is affected when you use this software called RSD Lite to flash an "SBF" extension file onto your phone. These files are made by motorola, they are official ROMS as you may know. Now if you flash for example 2.3.6 SBF onto your Defy+ (which is on 2.3.4), they you cannot flash a 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 SBF again, only other 2.3.6 SBF's. This is because one file inside these SBF's has a version number. It is version 4 for Froyo ROMs, 5 for 2.3.4 I believe, 6 or 7 for 2.3.6. Now Versions 4, 5, 6 are okay (5 & 6 for defy+), there are many SBF's for these and they can be rooted to install custom recovery, roms etc. Version 7 has no root method yet.
Now there a few "Fixed SBF's" lying around (I think they are all for Defy only though), these are SBF's where that particular file has been removed so it won't change the version number of the file currently flashed on your phone.
Anyway answering your question even if you flash version 5 or 6, you can still flash a Froyo kernel and later flash a GB kernel. Only thing is that Froyo Kernel may not work too well with your Defy+, ie probably the battery won't charge fully. I think since you have 2.3.4, you are at BL5, not BL6.
So don't confuse Kernels with downgradability. Kernels=flashable safely. SBF's=undowngradable.
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Hey!
Thank you very much.
Finally i can understand something relative to bootloaders and how they work.
Regards.
is there any tool to check my defy's BL version?
Go to download mode, you can find the bl version
kernel depends on the boot loader
So if boot loader is locked, we can't make custom kernels..we cant touch the kernel in any way..
But why does gb kernel work on bootloadr 9 ?..any ideas? Anyway it's modified rite?
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pjgowtham said:
Go to download mode, you can find the bl version
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I am not sure how to do that, please explain?
vietales said:
is there any tool to check my defy's BL version?
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@vietales: Did you find out how to check the BL version?
Hi Guys,
I am planning to upgrade my defy from stock ROM to JB.
Is there any SBF available that is fixed than full.
Fixed ROM does not burn the e bridge inside the phone so that I can downgrade the phone to stock.
But with FULL ROM , it burns the bridge and thus I Would not be able to downgrade the phone.
Any info or suggestion would be helpful.
You got the right idea about flashing higher SBF will get you stuck and can't downgrade.
But you have a bit misconception about SBF, those SBF files are "Stock" roms from Moto. Defy has 2.2.2 froyo stock rom as the newest (they abandon it) Defy+ has 2.3.6 gingerbread the most (got abandoned too).
So, there're 2.2.2 SBFs for Defy mb525, and 2.3.6 SBFs for Defy+ mb526, but no "ICS or JellyBean SBF for Defys".
We use SBF only for reverting back to Stock.
Fixed SBF are usually a patch to get a custom rom work without breaking it, not a custom rom itself.
You should read more about SBF and Custom roms. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
If you want Jellybean roms, you must use custom roms. Custom roms didn't use SBF to install (as you know, it burn the bridge).
Instread we use 2ndinit/bootmenu to workaround and install custom roms without touching the bridge.
If you interested to try JB, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795647
Thank you.
I had mistakenly mentioned sbf for custom ROM. My bad.
So, is there any ROM that is fixed and not full for jb?
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