Opps, just read the moderator's message of posing in QnA section. I am going to post there, but how to delete this one here?
ICS Note has both the old S Memo and the new S Note.
I have tried both. The S Note is very similar to S Memo, but has some extra new features of the Premium Suite.
I would say use S Note is good enough, but I am lost to see the reason for Samsung to include both apps. May be I missed something.
Can someone with good experience shed some light here?
roamingphiul said:
Opps, just read the moderator's message of posing in QnA section. I am going to post there, but how to delete this one here?
ICS Note has both the old S Memo and the new S Note.
I have tried both. The S Note is very similar to S Memo, but has some extra new features of the Premium Suite.
I would say use S Note is good enough, but I am lost to see the reason for Samsung to include both apps. May be I missed something.
Can someone with good experience shed some light here?
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This is a good question.
roamingphiul said:
Opps, just read the moderator's message of posing in QnA section. I am going to post there, but how to delete this one here?
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report yourself
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I'll close this one, refer to yur new thread in the Q&A section. For future reference, you could have reported this post and requested I move it instead of starting another thread
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MODS, RENAME THIS FORUM TO "TIPS & TRICKS" OR SOMETHING!
NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
SO RENAME IT!!!!!!!!!! Will save you mods time from moving threads!
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MODS, RENAME THIS FORUM TO "TIPS & TRICKS" OR SOMETHING!
NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
SO RENAME IT!!!!!!!!!! Will save you mods time from moving threads!
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haha i wanna see where this leads....
I was going to suggest it in the "i don't know about you, but i'm glad the mods are cleaning up" thread, but that got locked.
But seriously... doesn't this make sense?
Just look at the forum right now, there's a million threads moved cuz it's in the wrong forum, cuz people thing this is a "general" talk forum.
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NO ONE reads the 3rd sticky saying that "This sub-forum is only for tips/info/news etc., NOT QUESTIONS"
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What more would you like the mods to do? There already is a Q&A section where questions are to be placed, which means this thread is for anything non question related. Relax and repeat a mantra or something.
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What more would you like the mods to do?
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Not much.
I reckon his post is really directed at posters who refuse to (or cannot ) read, not the mods. I suppose while people continue answering Qs posted in the General forum, people will continue to post them. OTOH if participants resist the urge to show their knowledge by responding in the wrong forum maybe the posters will see the error in their ways. Failing that the post without a response will soon fade away.
As someone else mentioned, placing the Q&A thread atop the list would probably fix things, but it is out of whack with the rest of the XDA layout, so this would not do either. Quite a few of the Questions seem to come from posters who use English as a second language. So perhaps changing Q&A to Question & Answers may help because the abbreviation may not be so obvious to some.
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What more would you like the mods to do? There already is a Q&A section where questions are to be placed, which means this thread is for anything non question related. Relax and repeat a mantra or something.
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I understand that, but like the sticky says, the General forum is a tips/news/hints forum, and if you take 2 seconds to look at all the threads in the General forum, they're 99% questions.
Like I said in the first post, I think a lot of people see General, and think of a general/misc talking forum, so they go here to post their issues/ask for help/etc..
SO, since the sticky does say this General forum is tips/news/hints, it should be renamed to that, so when a n00b sees Q&A, they'd ask their Questions there, and if they have tips/news/hints, they'd post here.
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I was going to suggest it in the "i don't know about you, but i'm glad the mods are cleaning up" thread, but that got locked.
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Like I said in that thread, the issue was brought up to the moderators and they will do something about it (once the person in charge gets back from his vacation).
Anyways, don't worry about it.. it won't kill you. I'm the one who's doing the work and I'm not complaining much.
And can we please stop starting these threads in the N1 forum --- if you have a general issue with the boards then post them to the main forums (General, etc.), not here. Thank you
So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.
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So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.
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I'll AMEN to that.....Admins and Mods are like gods on these forums..i see that this forum is powered by vBulletin....i'm sure that can be put in place.......with a little modification
It is a public forum....restrictions will cause problems.
That said, mods are pretty good about moving things when needed--let it roll. Sometimes a [req] is needed, as is a [thinktank] that does not involve an attachment.
^ yeah, I agree, but I'm all about trying to improve xda and the mod's are always having to move threads and teach noobs.
maybe just a checkbox you must acknowledge the thread you are creating belongs in the development section... And if people don't obey a disclaimer you may get a time out (can't post for a week or something).
^ I agree with both points. But may I say, we as a community have the responsibility to steer noobs into the right direction. I admit, after being a noob since the development of Nexus One, I didn't know where to go, or what to do with my first android phone. Back then, in cyanogen mod days, there were friendly mods and community, whom helped me. That's why sometimes I still help some noobs, but steer them where to get more info... I don't know, times change, and all forum are cluttered, imo...
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The attachment idea would not work only because most dev's are hosting their stuff offsite, unless they attached a change log which at that point anyone could attach a text file if required.
The additional check box acknowledging where and what you are posting might be a reasonable idea if the board's configuration allows it.
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The attachment idea would not work only because most dev's are hosting their stuff offsite, unless they attached a change log which at that point anyone could attach a text file if required.
The additional check box acknowledging where and what you are posting might be a reasonable idea if the board's configuration allows it.
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I agree. Also, the mods have been excellent abbot moving things and keeping them on topic but they need our help. If you use xda on a computer, please use the report button for threads in the wrong place or trolling.
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So, our development section gets littered with QUESTIONS. This is not where they go. It adds clutter. Just had a thought and was curious if
(a) would it would work and/or be possible
(b) what others thought of it.
Can the mods make it where you are not able to CREATE a thread in the development section unless the OP has an attachment?
EVERY thread in the development section that belongs there has an attachment/download.
EVERY thread that does NOT belong there does NOT have an attachment.
This is something I just thought of and I only glanced over the first page or so but it does appear to be a valid screening process.
Can this type of rule be in place?
I don't like that the developers and their section is littered with requests/noob questions.
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should just lock the threads in development for everyone except the op. This will only allow the op to update their change log and add any answer or solutions from Q&A. It will force people to use Q&A instead of flooding the dev. section. Most importantly, it'll make finding solutions and fixes easy.
^ hmm.. every developer could link to a bugs/discussion thread in the Vibrant General or Q&A section... that COULD work. Not sure if developers would like that or not?
I generally agree with s15274n, but the problem is very few people respond to questions in the Q&A........so people go where there is going to be a better response.........The General and Development sections. Trying to change human nature is difficult....(try looking at a beautiful woman and only think platonic thoughts)
Maybe it there was a way to tag question in the Q & A so the scroll at the top of the Dev section crawled along as new questions were submitted so there more exposure to the questions..........The problem with that is people will not adhere to the format, they will just ignore our requests in Q & A and go along their merry way doing what they do...... maybe we could get everyone to take a proficiency test before logging on ..........kinda like a n0oB i.q.alyzer test
we need more consequences about it, people will post in the development section after being warned, In their mind its okay because nothing will happen. The agreement is a great idea, the op is warned right away so no real explanation will be needed
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iwillkillyou said:
we need more consequences about it, people will post in the development section after being warned, In their mind its okay because nothing will happen. The agreement is a great idea, the op is warned right away so no real explanation will be needed
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This is why I was suggesting that the threads in the dev section should be locked to the devs only. Everyone else can read but not post. The dev can link to q&a for others to post their questions.
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This is why I was suggesting that the threads in the dev section should be locked to the devs only. Everyone else can read but not post. The dev can link to q&a for others to post their questions.
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that would be a good idea but devs still need feedback, leaving it to Q&A will be more chaotic. There ALL those who have questions, joyful comments will come out because its in the right section.
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^ agreed.
i really feel the best idea is a new topic in development requires you to click an acknowledgment saying your thread belongs here, and if not there may be a consequence.
All of this is pointless unless a mod comments though.
We really have a lot of work in moderation.
The idea is good, however we can not deploy yet, but I'm passing on the suggestion for moderation.
Thank you for helping and supporting the XDA!
Sounds good, I know you guys will get it right.
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Sounds good, I know you guys will get it right.
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Nice! They heard your calls, hopely we will get something like that. But wouldn't it affect all of XDA?
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iwillkillyou said:
Nice! They heard your calls, hopely we will get something like that. But wouldn't it affect all of XDA?
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Yes! affect all of Xda, if ok!
This is a development area.
Meaning if you have created something fixed an error then this is where you post. if you have questions please make a topic in the General section this area is getting filled with junk and multiple post asking things that have been posted if you would just learn to use a button we call the search bar at the top right.
I'm not the mod on this Device but as a dev for this device I want to keep things clean unlike all the other areas. I want people to look as the development area and be like ok thats a rom or recover or root and not have to ask questions.
Next is when in a topic please keep on topic. a few topics are 90% junk because people not staying on topic. DONT make posts that say "I hope this is fixed soon or I'm going to get rid of this device" GROW UP go do some reading and help to to make a fix.
I have to add my 2 cents to this. It's really nice if people other their help and discuss things but sometimes threads have to stay clean in order to be helpful for other developers. So please think about if it's really necessary to add your stuff. Otherwise please use the general section.
If you help the developers to do their stuff quickly we'll be able to write how to threads faster for you guys.
Personally I'll pick only a few persons for testing. This will result in less bricked devices
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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Maybe link the [DEV] thread to a [DISCUSSION] thread in general section so noobs like use can talk about the development of a given project and not actually post in the [DEV] thread itself.
Also, I wouldn't hesitate to report a post or thread to the mod. I'm not sure how active he is here but it could use a little cleaning.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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its a good idea but if people have a question since we dont have a questions area like other forums it needs to be in the general area. or they need to learn to use a search bar/engine. im just tired of pms/email/threads that have been answered already.
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You would think by now with how prevalent forums are for all aspects of life, people would know how to use the search feature.
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I tried to set this a few days ago: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056198 but the people don't listen
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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What I meant, exactly, was say a developer starts in on a project - they start their development thread and in the first post, add a link to a discussion thread in the general forum:
[DEV] My project Title
This is my project explanation.
Link to [DISCUSSION] Thread.
So basically, you start you [DEV] thread. Then when you're done, start a [DISCUSSION] thread then link the two together. So noobs, right from the first post, can see the link to the discussion thread. If someone posts a question or chit chat in you [DEV] thread, have it moved to the [DISCUSSION] thread.
I know, it's not ideal, just a thought.
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This actually sounds really good to me. The only kicker being what is considred on topic and what isn't? Are testing successes and failures relevant to a dev thread? Only successes? Only "breakthrough" moments? To be determibed by an elite group of our super-dev peers? Determined by the original poster?
Its a very subjective issue, dependent on the knowledge level and/or experience of the poster and reader both (or simply based on what one is hoping to find at that moment as compared to how disappointed one is by what they do find instead).
It could also get really complicated really fast.
Ultimately thats up to the OP.
The whole point is that a dev thread can only stay as clean as there are ways to do it. At least with a seperate (though connected) discussion thread, it can be directed. If someone posts in the dev thread, it should be up to that threads OP whether or not it can stay or be moved- at least now there would be a place to move it.
BUMP!! cause people dont like going to the second page. STOP making questions here this is for DEV's that have something to make the Iconia better not hi can i do this. go to the GENERAL AREA
I am not a developer, and this is the only post I can see myself ever posting here.
I enjoy reading this section like I'd read a detailed tech news site. I know that these same people also read the general section, so I can benefit from their input there.
Here, this section, this is their place to work! They share ideas here. They make things happen here. Aside from this post, I never want to clutter their desks, because I benefit so much from their hard work!
Is there any way to just make you guys permissible to post? Maybe you should have to be a dev to post? All can read, but devs would contact the mod to post? With a Discussion Thread linked in that environment, I could see a solution.
I still want to read. Its valuable. But aside from this post, I have no reason to write here. Butt every reason to watch progress, for my own education and to see what might be round the bend
anyone can be a dev. it just means u fixed a bug or made something happen thats what this section is for not hey can some1 help get you tube working or something like that.
doing another bump to keep near the top
Just looking at this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21483399&postcount=3019
We did this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21512294#post21512294
I don't know why every forum section cannot contain at least 1 thread like that.
Surely you can see that this will get closed too???
lol
OmegaRED^ said:
This is why i never post here
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Erm, you just did post here.
XDA has a forum for "Off Topic" posts already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
If everyone simply used the forums as they were intended, there would be no problems. Creating an "Off Topic" thread in device specific fora is essentially allowing behavior we are trying to stop. Post about the Samsung Galaxy S II in the the Samsung Galaxy S II forums. Dead simple. Report anything that is off topic and don't respond to it and we can delete 1 post as opposed to 2 pages of derailed thread.
Unless I hear something different from the Site Administration or a Senior Moderator, this will be the last time I address this.
crachel
Noticed my post of " Should I wait for a little bit long" regarding availability of galaxy note in US was deleted. Wonder what I did wrong.
Read the stickied thread READ THIS !!! DO NOT POST QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL SECTION THEY WILL BE DELETED !!!
It's even written in capslock, you can't possibly miss it...
but there are so many posts asking questions in this section.
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Watch the stickied thread READ THIS !!! DO NOT POST QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL SECTION THEY WILL BE DELETED !!!
It's even written in capslock, you can't possibly miss it...
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legender said:
Noticed my post of " Should I wait for a little bit long" regarding availability of galaxy note in US was deleted. Wonder what I did wrong.
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"Wonder what I did wrong", even if you did not use the "?", also this was a question. You are going to get banned! hehe
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No one is going to get banned for politely asking a question. We are enforcing the 'no question' rule in General now, however. I had the Q&A section added as soon as the rules allowed, please use it! We are moving questions into that forum as we post