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Screen height too big for Nook Touch

Been struggling with Touchnooter 1.6.24 and 1.6.22 for several weeks with a fairly new Nook Touch. Some Android system and app buttons on the very bottom don't respond. These are key buttons such as the Android Market accept terms of use, the Add app Finish button, and the SlideMe accept button. I found a work around for the home page bottom buttons that at least lets me access the app drawer. If the status bar is set to hidden the bottom buttons come up a very small amount and then respond. I haven't found a way to hide the status bar in apps though. I'm currently trying to figure out how to get the Nook recognized as a device so I can load the driver thats supposed to let me use adb to install apps. I've found that putting apps on the SD card prior to installing Touchnooter and starting the adk in Root Explorer just gives an error that non Android Market apps are blocked.
The real solution is to get everything on the screen. Presumably all the bottom buttons will work if the height could be shrunk. How do I do this?
Could BN be trying to block rooting by introducing small changes into recent Nooks?

Stumbled on a work around once I figured out how to use adb. All the google hits about using USB for adb had me confused. Once I realized that the SDK adb is made to work over wifi I was able to install Dolphin browser. I discovered that it has a setting for landscape, and that its add-ons are loaded through the Android Market. AM pops up in landscape mode and the accept button is no longer on the bottom. Now I can install software from the AM app and I can start making good use of my Nook.
I'm convinced that this isn't a peculiar fault of my Nook and that the Android window is not set right with Touchnooter for at least some Nooks, maybe the more recent ones. Unless I can find another app that sets landscape for all apps, or that allows the window size to be customized, there are still major problems with the Touchnooter package on my Nook. Can't uninstall, for example, since the prompt button is on the very bottom. Have to rm with adb.

[Q] NST & Touchnooter install kinda sorta

Renate NST suggested I post this in this forum
To all the developers - Thanks in advance for all the GREAT work!
The Saga
Installed touchnooter-2-1-31 and NST hung on install.
Waited an hour and rebooted
NST booted to "walking dots"
Used n2T-Recovery_0.2
Went thru "start-up" dialog (register, etc) and got the machine running again.
Noticed that NST SW was at 1.0
Updated NST to 1.1.2
Installed touchnooter-2-1-31.
Boot screen was "Read Forever"
Android fired up.
Missed the select ADW - should have done that
Button Savior wanted Superuser - should have done that
Buttons on side grayed out
Used n2T-Recovery_0.2 again
did not get me to the "register" start-up dialog
Updated NST to 1.1
Installed touchnooter-2-1-31 again
Boot screen is still "Read Forever"
Same action on buttons - grayed out
So .... my take on this is given the multiple installs I have scrambled something but good.
Is there a way to get to square zero?
Will the erase and de-register do that?
Is there a way to correct the ADW / Button Savior issues?
Is there a way to get to Android despite to side buttons?
Thanks in advance for any help.
The NST works as a reader - so I'm not dead - just wounded

I think you're jumping the gun on doing recovery. When you reboot, aren't you at the ADW Launcher screen? It's been a while since I rooted my NST using TouchNooter (TN), but I believe you can launch the Superuser app after a basic TN root and change the settings for any apps you goofed on (e.g. Button Savior). Just launch Superuser, click the icon of the desired app at left, then click the little android icon at right to toggle the Status between Allowed and Denied.
Erase & Deregister Device in Settings->Device info should suffice to get you back to an unrooted state for a repeat attempt, assuming you can get to it. I've used it many times. If not, power off, then press & hold the lower left & right buttons as you power back on for a few seconds to get a factory reset option. I believe this would have helped you after that first TN hang. You could just retry after a factory reset and reboot. (Haven't had to do this myself, so not 100% sure.)
Download and install Default App Manager from the Google Market to change your default launcher so you can set it to ADW, or whatever you prefer. This works for changing defaults for any app, so is a good thing to keep around.
For the side buttons, do you mean the hard side buttons? You can change those settings with the Side buttons option in NookTouch Tools.
Also in NTT, you can change the 'n' button behavior to take you straight to your home app (ADW) if you don't like the QuickLaunch menu (I do). Be sure to check the Show extra action buttons in recent option, and you'll get Back, Home, Menu, Search and Orientation buttons (just like Button Savior) when you long-press the 'n' button, as well as your most recent apps.
As I mentioned in a separate post, I prefer to use NookTouch Tools to override the B&N QuickLaunch options to eliminate the need for Button Savior or similar apps altogether. Between a QuickLaunch option or two, and the extra options in the recent apps dialog, I've got those options covered. I did remap two of the hardware side buttons to Back and Menu just because they're handy.
I've had very good luck using TouchNooter, but you do have to read the step-by-step directions carefully. There are ways around most problems if you can get to ADW.
Good luck with it!

bobstro said:
I think you're jumping the gun on doing recovery. When you reboot, aren't you at the ADW Launcher screen? It's been a while since I rooted my NST using TouchNooter (TN), but I believe you can launch the Superuser app after a basic TN root and change the settings for any apps you goofed on (e.g. Button Savior). Just launch Superuser, click the icon of the desired app at left, then click the little android icon at right to toggle the Status between Allowed and Denied.
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It boots to the reader ... buttons are there on the right side, but grayed out and non-functional (no superuser on button.savior)
So .. is there something I can boot from off the SD card that would allow me to
1.) Set ADW as the default, and / or
2.) Give Button.Savior the Superuser permissions?
Erase and Dereg is available as I only have access to the reader and not ADW.
Thanks for the help folks!

Were I the original poster, I would recover from my nonrooted backup image and re-root, or if I could not find it or found it but found that it was not 1.8 gig in size, would force factory reset (first, erase and deregister, then 8 failed, IIRC, to get both /system and /data wiped.)
Once I'd done a full reset, if I'd needed to do it that way, I'd boot from noogie and make my backup.
Then i'd reroot, probably using one of the Clockwork-based tools rather than the Touchnooter system, as it seems that
folks are sometimes seeing TN not quite finish (it happened to me on occasion) and the Clockwork tools seem to be
very robust, enough so that the Glownooter uses clockwork.
I actually like to really baseline something like this and be sure there's no odd cruft hanging out in /system or /data that may confuse me later.

WorkenOnIt said:
It boots to the reader ... buttons are there on the right side, but grayed out and non-functional (no superuser on button.savior)
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You're definitely seeing some odd behavior. I always wound up at ADW on any reboot.
Erase and Dereg is available as I only have access to the reader and not ADW.
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You should still be able to get to it via Settings->Device Info. In my experience, erase and dereg was sufficient to make another rooting attempt, but you might want to get back to ground zero. The restore option you've been using, a restore from backup as roust suggests, or doing the 8 failed boot attempts are all options. Be sure to update to whatever version of firmware you want before attempting.
Roust: After you do a CWM noot, what version does Device info show? Mine always shows 1.1.0 after TN, even though I updated to 1.1.2 previously. This has to do with some of the framework tweaking, IIRC. My TN may be old by now.

To all,
Thanks for all your help.
I did an Erase and Deregister.
That appeared to work
Checked firmware - was 1.1.0
Tried to reload TouchNooter (2-1-31)
Screen hung again - like the first time.
Waited 30 minutes and pulled the SD and rebooted.
Boot screen still says "Read Forever"
Went thru the startup dialog and selected the ADW launcher and allowed superuser on the button.savior.
I can now "complete the action" with the ADW launcher and the side keys function.
Everything appears to be working ...
Gmail gets to the account ..
Now why does it still say "Read Forever"?
Anyway - again - thanks for the help
This can be closed ... but I dont think it is "solved"

WorkenOnIt said:
[...] Screen hung again - like the first time.
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When TN completes, you just get the black screen. This is not spelled out in step 8 of Gabrial's procedure, but it is mentioned in the on-screen instructions. Is that what you were seeing?
Boot screen still says "Read Forever"
[...] Now why does it still say "Read Forever"?
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When I first power mine on, I get the "Read Forever" screen which is shortly followed by the rolling dots as the device boots. After a few moments, I get the slider unlock screen. Is that what you're seeing?
If so, I think that's normal.
Once you unlock, you're at the ADW screen now, right? Or at least you can get back to it in some way?

bobstro said:
When TN completes, you just get the black screen. This is not spelled out in step 8 of Gabrial's procedure, but it is mentioned in the on-screen instructions. Is that what you were seeing?
When I first power mine on, I get the "Read Forever" screen which is shortly followed by the rolling dots as the device boots. After a few moments, I get the slider unlock screen. Is that what you're seeing?
If so, I think that's normal.
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Screen never blanked .. it did in tries #2 and #3 .. but not #1 and this last one
I thought it would say "Root Forever" ... but hey, as long as it works!
bobstro said:
Once you unlock, you're at the ADW screen now, right? Or at least you can get back to it in some way?
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It boots to the "Home" reader .. but buttons on side (House) get me to the ADW / Reader selection

WorkenOnIt said:
[...] It boots to the "Home" reader .. but buttons on side (House) get me to the ADW / Reader selection
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Good to hear it's working. If you don't like the side buttons that Button Savior uses, you can use Nook Touch Tools to provide a couple of alternatives.
You should also be able to change your default Home app using the technique I described above.
IIRC, the "rooted forever" screen only shows during the rooting process. I think Noogie uses that.

[Q] NST - not sure if rooted..

So I've rooted my Nook a long time ago but now had some problems with it so did a hard reset (using this method:
Code:
Turn off your N2E completely.
Turn it on again by holding down power, and then,
as soon as the screen flashes, begin holding down the bottom page turn keys on the left and right of the device until the screen flashes with a message asking if you want to do a factory reset.
Click the home key twice, and you should be on your way.
Then, since I couldn't enter the Android home screen (launcher) I tried to root it using the Lifehacker guide, but it turned out unsuccesful (when I entered the SD card, I didn't have the ROOTED FOREVER screen, just the ordinary Root Forever). I also had a B&N registration process on startup, which I gladly did. I skipped the android registration process, but didn't get the option to select the launcher. So now I'm on the usual Nook Home screen and can't change it, but when I hold the NOOK button pressed I got a message "no recent applications", which I think indicates a presence of Android? So how can I get the android launcher again? Searching for launcher does not work

The question is whether you have a launcher installed and whether it is the preferred activity.
You can try ADB and look for the launcher.
Then you can look at /data/system/packages.xml and see if you selected the stock Home.apk as your preferred-activities instead of the launcher.

After Nooter on 1.4.3 question issue not switching to zeam launcher now

I had my wifes 1.4.2 nootered and it auto updated to 1.4.3 so I finally got around to nootering again and used manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.block_updates.zip and everything was working fine for about 2 weeks maybe more can't remember and now if you hit n and then hit the home soft key it just takes you to B&N home no option to pick zeam launcher or anything. I can turn the nook off then back on and it auto loads right in to the nootered side so I can get on google play but if you go over to B&N to read a book. Then do as I said to get to the zeam launcher its just not an option anymore. Is there a way to fix this? or do I need to renooter?

sreadesjr said:
I had my wifes 1.4.2 nootered and it auto updated to 1.4.3 so I finally got around to nootering again and used manualnooter-5.08.20.basic.block_updates.zip and everything was working fine for about 2 weeks maybe more can't remember and now if you hit n and then hit the home soft key it just takes you to B&N home no option to pick zeam launcher or anything. I can turn the nook off then back on and it auto loads right in to the nootered side so I can get on google play but if you go over to B&N to read a book. Then do as I said to get to the zeam launcher its just not an option anymore. Is there a way to fix this? or do I need to renooter?
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No. Somehow the stock launcher got set as the default launcher. Just install any other launcher with Play Store and it clears that and next time you select home, you can set zeam as default again. Then you can uninstall the new launcher if you like.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
No. Somehow the stock launcher got set as the default launcher. Just install any other launcher with Play Store and it clears that and next time you select home, you can set zeam as default again. Then you can uninstall the new launcher if you like.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD
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I tried that used go launcher and adw launcher and go launcher didn't work kep't gliching. But both still didn't work once I'm at the B&N side after hitting n and then hitting home still no option to go to zeam or adw or go launcher. So any other ideas? but if I do that on zeam side after I boot nook up that option is there and no check make in make this default. also noticed that the home center is no longer there either. It used to be when I first did the nooter but its gone too but it is in apps along with zeam. Well zeam was listed when I tried the other 2 to see if that fixed it but no luck. I've rebooted after installing launcher each time.

sreadesjr said:
I tried that used go launcher and adw launcher and go launcher didn't work kep't gliching. But both still didn't work once I'm at the B&N side after hitting n and then hitting home still no option to go to zeam or adw or go launcher. So any other ideas? but if I do that on zeam side after I boot nook up that option is there and no check make in make this default. also noticed that the home center is no longer there either. It used to be when I first did the nooter but its gone too but it is in apps along with zeam. Well zeam was listed when I tried the other 2 to see if that fixed it but no luck. I've rebooted after installing launcher each time.
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I have 1.4.3 and manual nooter set up on SD and I don't know what you mean when you say you hit n then soft home. I have no soft home button. And you said this worked after the upgrade? On my system, I just make zeam the default launcher and have a home icon on zeam's screen to get back to stock home. Then I press n to get to zeam.
Wait. Are you talking about soft keys? I did not have that set up. I do now. You need to open soft keys in the zeam panel and open its preferences (the little tools at the bottom). Then select zeam as its preferred home choice in the virtual home button.
If that does not work, I would just re-nooter.
Sent with XDA Premium from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on SD

leapinlar said:
I have 1.4.3 and manual nooter set up on SD and I don't know what you mean when you say you hit n then soft home. I have no soft home button. And you said this worked after the upgrade? On my system, I just make zeam the default launcher and have a home icon on zeam's screen to get back to stock home. Then I press n to get to zeam.
Wait. Are you talking about soft keys? I did not have that set up. I do now. You need to open soft keys in the zeam panel and open its preferences (the little tools at the bottom). Then select zeam as its preferred home choice in the virtual home button.
If that does not work, I would just re-nooter.
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Well the soft home key as I refer to it is after you hit the N on nook and it brings up the home,libary,web,settings,search after pushing it, it doesn't give option to pick different launcher and tried installing new launcher and picked zeam as defualt but once I go to B&N side of the nook I do not get an option to pick what launcher anymore to get back to zeam. So only way to get to zeam side it turn it off and turn it back on. Also found information on someone saying use home launcher for froyo and it says that my default is zeam now after messing with it to get to that stage but still after going to B&N side of nook still no option to get back to zeam side. So think I'm just going to start over.

sreadesjr said:
Well the soft home key as I refer to it is after you hit the N on nook and it brings up the home,libary,web,settings,search after pushing it, it doesn't give option to pick different launcher and tried installing new launcher and picked zeam as defualt but once I go to B&N side of the nook I do not get an option to pick what launcher anymore to get back to zeam. So only way to get to zeam side it turn it off and turn it back on. Also found information on someone saying use home launcher for froyo and it says that my default is zeam now after messing with it to get to that stage but still after going to B&N side of nook still no option to get back to zeam side. So think I'm just going to start over.
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If you need to start completely over I have a 1.4.3 zip linked in my NC tips thread linked in my signature. Look at item A15. I read somewhere that the APIs were changed in 1.4.3 so home catcher may not be working anymore. That may be the issue. But you said it worked for a couple of weeks after you upgraded, so that may not be it.
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Resetting the 'Home' button?

Hi again..
I seem to have set the Nook ST glowlight to go to relaunch instead of the B&N homepage . Now when I click on 'n' and 'Home', it goes to the Relauncher instead.
Is there a way to reset this so it goes to the B&N page again?

I *think* that if you just install another launcher (anything from the market) you will be presented with the possible choices again when you try to access "Home". Then you can select the default B&N Home screen and later uninstall the added launcher.

Yeah, I installed Launcher 8 recently and this didn't trigger that option again. It is there when I do some things, but I think I asked it to remember my choice for the Home button. I am used to Windows OS and when you do something like that, you can always rectify it, by using either default programs or file associations etc. Android must have something similar, no?

When you make a default choice there is a message that tells you where you can reset the option but it seems to refer to a utility that is not accessible the way the Nook is configured. Can't remember exactly what it says but I've run into the problem before and what I offered seemed to work for me. Did you reboot after installing the additional launcher? I guess the other alternative is to UNinstall all of the Android launchers you've added and reboot. Then there would be no alternative to the Nook "Home". Assuming that works you could then reinstall your launcher of choice. It's a pain, I know. I've "rebuilt" my Nook many times while trying to get over the learning curve. Finally bought an additional SD card so I could save a backup every so often when I'm trying out something new. That's come in handy.
No, it's not like Windows at all (which some people would probably say is a good thing).

No need to uninstall anything. With reLaunch go to the app "nook touch mod". Using this app you can map the nook button to anything you want including the B&N Home page.

Unfortunately this doesn't work either. You can set the 'n button' to do anything but bring up the small taskbar at the bottom, which then takes you to the Home page you have set up.
What I wanted back was the ability to hit the n button, and then be offered the choice of relaunch or B&N home. I can still get to the B&N homepage when the unit starts from being powered down. It's not the end of the world, but a little frustrating.
I haven't even tried to sideload apps or anything yet. And my one attempt to download a book ended when it seems my download location is set as an SD card.. I used to think I was tech savvy. It's only going to get worse. :silly:

gozo81 said:
Unfortunately this doesn't work either. You can set the 'n button' to do anything but bring up the small taskbar at the bottom, which then takes you to the Home page you have set up.
What I wanted back was the ability to hit the n button, and then be offered the choice of relaunch or B&N home. I can still get to the B&N homepage when the unit starts from being powered down. It's not the end of the world, but a little frustrating.
I haven't even tried to sideload apps or anything yet. And my one attempt to download a book ended when it seems my download location is set as an SD card.. I used to think I was tech savvy. It's only going to get worse. :silly:
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There is a Android App "Default App Manager" on Google play that may work.

gozo81 said:
Unfortunately this doesn't work either. You can set the 'n button' to do anything but bring up the small taskbar at the bottom, which then takes you to the Home page you have set up.
What I wanted back was the ability to hit the n button, and then be offered the choice of relaunch or B&N home. I can still get to the B&N homepage when the unit starts from being powered down. It's not the end of the world, but a little frustrating.
I haven't even tried to sideload apps or anything yet. And my one attempt to download a book ended when it seems my download location is set as an SD card.. I used to think I was tech savvy. It's only going to get worse. :silly:
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I had a vague notion that NookTouchModManager didn't work with Glowlight, but I might be wrong. If it does work, then you don't want to set the "N" button to bring up Home. Rather you want to set the QuickNav Home button to "default". That's going to get you the B&N page you seek. But that means you will need a way to access your app drawer/launcher as well. For that purpose either one of the other QuickNav buttons could be reassigned OR you could assign a long press of the "N" button to initiate the launcher.
If NTMM doesn't work with Glowlight then I stand by the original idea: uninstall any launchers and reboot. With no alternative, you should get the B&N Home screen unless you have in some other way reassigned the QuickNav Home button.
Don't get discouraged. As a noob (still...) I had to start over quite a few times and there were times I was sure I had bricked my Nook. But I didn't.