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Over the past week I have helped 3 people that have had there phones messed up by the updating process of Kies. Thankfully they was all recoverable, but I actually think it won't be long before we see bricks using this software;+( So be careful guys, use Odin whenever you can
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I update using Kies and it went fine, don't have any other software on my laptop.
How do you mind explaining ?
Gavin.csy said:
I update using Kies and it went fine, don't have any other software on my laptop.
How do you mind explaining ?
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Well its been kicking phones out mid flash, if this happens while flashing the radio segment, its a dead phone:/
If you check intratechs thread in the dev section it will show you a better and safer method through Odin. Plus you will have the advantages of getting roms earlier sometimes
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Sent from my Samsung Galactic Crusader S II
JupiterdroidXDA said:
Well its been kicking phones out mid flash, if this happens while flashing the radio segment, its a dead phone:/
If you check intratechs thread in the dev section it will show you a better and safer method through Odin. Plus you will have the advantages of getting roms earlier sometimes
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are we talking about unnoficial flashes or official flashes? if it bricks with kies wont samsung be forced to replace my bricked phone?
typical "user error"
TheWarKeeper said:
are we talking about unnoficial flashes or official flashes? if it bricks with kies wont samsung be forced to replace my bricked phone?
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Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje
JJEgan said:
Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje
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ok thanks for the info
JJEgan said:
Yes they have in the past on SGS 1 or at least fixed the phone FOC .
Plus a bricked phone is very rare on SGS flash stock rom through Odin cures 99% .
Dead radio just flash a new Modem through Odin .
jje
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If the radio has been partially flashed and stopped mid flash i think that corrupts the baseband with no return. I remember that the only real way to brick a Nexus was to stop the flash process while the baseband was being wrote to.
And yes samsung would be obliged to give you a new phone or repair the damage caused if Kies is the culprit
Yeh kies is not very good, I've had many time outs.
If you are worried about flashing via odin don't be you can get official Rom to flash via odin.
They are Roms that Samsung has releases .
Read the simple instructions and flash via odin, once you do it one you will see how easy it is
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Random mate but where did you go on twitter? Lol
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I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...
Yes, thanks a lot for creating this thread. Kies has been suffering in the firmware upgrade issue for a long time now. It is time for solving the issue with sincere urgency.
SHAME ON SAMSUNG.
Regards.
Yeah u r right,,,kies dont even work anymore,,,whenever i try to update,it just download the firmware and just before the flashing process a message pop up saying "FirmwareUpdate has been stopped",,,its damn irritating,,,i guess it doesnt work on Win 7...
But i wanted to ask something for a while,,,i see some people here are just "obsessed" with flashing firmwares and roms now and then ,,,,i wonder that isnt it a bit tiring to install all those apps again and again,,i mean i know google restores ur apps,,,but what about those which are ummm cracked?? (i kinda have alot of cracked games i bought only a few)...
Atleast with a Kies update all ur apps remain secure...
jimbiye said:
I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...
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Kies from day one has been unreliable for a number of reasons mostly not user problems .
For starters its driver setup and use has always been poor .
Its connection setup is not robust likewise its failure to recover from broken downloads .
Kies in a nutshell does not recover from errors and is error prone even for the most advanced users .
jje
guitarmafia said:
Yeah u r right,,,kies dont even work anymore,,,whenever i try to update,it just download the firmware and just before the flashing process a message pop up saying "FirmwareUpdate has been stopped",,,its damn irritating,,,i guess it doesnt work on Win 7...
But i wanted to ask something for a while,,,i see some people here are just "obsessed" with flashing firmwares and roms now and then ,,,,i wonder that isnt it a bit tiring to install all those apps again and again,,i mean i know google restores ur apps,,,but what about those which are ummm cracked?? (i kinda have alot of cracked games i bought only a few)...
Atleast with a Kies update all ur apps remain secure...
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As we on XDA support the Devs and do not rip them off we do not have cracked software .
jje
jimbiye said:
I can't help but wondering how on earth someone manages to mess up a Kies update?
Unless they are running some custom rom/kernel...or somehow have a running process that interferes with kies during the update.
I have never had a problem updating through kies from official firmware.
So I am a bit puzzled when I hear this...
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It's just a matter of bad luck. It can happen, and maybe it'll happen to you one day. You can't always blame this on the user. Like for example, there's a power blackout in the middle of a flash and your computer suddenly turns off. Nothing you can do about it, yet you're screwed.
Kies is like that, it's a not a completely safe piece of sofware. Even flashing the bios on a computer isn't. Thing is, Odin allows you to flash official firmwares and is generally safer. There's no real reason to prefer Kies over Odin.
on your phone, go Setting:
About phone --> Software update -->Check for update
that got my phone updated to KF4(1st try).. tired with kies but no luck(2-3 hrs+ many dl errors)
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Random mate but where did you go on twitter? Lol
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Hi mate,
Yeah i was under the cosh at uni and soooo busy, deleted my profile on here too, only just reactivated...
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore
JupiterdroidXDA said:
Hi mate,
Yeah i was under the cosh at uni and soooo busy, deleted my profile on here too, only just reactivated...
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore
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Glad you didnt! Galaxy2 is a great device
JupiterdroidXDA said:
At the time i was dicing between turning to the dark side so i thought i would not need my XDA account anymore
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I can smell the apple all over you
Hi All,
I have bought Samsung Galaxy 3 5 months back... the model no is GT-I5801. I did rooting to upgrade from Android 2.1 to 2.2 but the model no got changed to GT-I5800. Now my phone is dead slow... battery also got drained soon.
I really frustrated by using this change.
Can you anyone please help on this how to rollback all these things.
Regards
Ragavendran
Hi...
Try flashing an Eclair rom with bootloader
ragavendrang said:
Hi All,
I have bought Samsung Galaxy 3 5 months back... the model no is GT-I5801. I did rooting to upgrade from Android 2.1 to 2.2 but the model no got changed to GT-I5800. Now my phone is dead slow... battery also got drained soon.
I really frustrated by using this change.
Can you anyone please help on this how to rollback all these things.
Regards
Ragavendran
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Go to the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063940 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125387
Scroll down to ASIAN ROMs...choose which one you want to flash...go ahead and it should get restored to I5801.....
ragavendrang said:
Hi All,
I have bought Samsung Galaxy 3 5 months back... the model no is GT-I5801. I did rooting to upgrade from Android 2.1 to 2.2 but the model no got changed to GT-I5800. Now my phone is dead slow... battery also got drained soon.
I really frustrated by using this change.
Can you anyone please help on this how to rollback all these things.
Regards
Ragavendran
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flash attached as one package..
but before flashing bootloader i wld recommned to close all running programmes in bg & then open odin & flash..
ranadip.bswas said:
flash attached as one package..
but before flashing bootloader i wld recommned to close all running programmes in bg & then open odin & flash..
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Hi
What do you mean?
Flash the same way as we flash roms?
Coz I would be in download mode, so how come can I have apps running?
Even I need i5801 during boot, as I dropped my cell in water, its working fine now but I can't hear during a call or play a song (I mean things are not audible & so I need to contact Samsung care center) so need either ddjp2 wid bootloader or the file you provided.
Thanks in advanced.
dabhirahul said:
Hi
What do you mean?
Flash the same way as we flash roms?
Coz I would be in download mode, so how come can I have apps running?
Even I need i5801 during boot, as I dropped my cell in water, its working fine now but I can't hear during a call or play a song (I mean things are not audible & so I need to contact Samsung care center) so need either ddjp2 wid bootloader or the file you provided.
Thanks in advanced.
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^I guess what he meant was that close all the background applications on your PC/Laptop before initializing the process.
h4r5h said:
^I guess what he meant was that close all the background applications on your PC/Laptop before initializing the process.
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Ya . Thnx h4r5h ..
Sent from my GT-I5800 using Tapatalk
DDJP2 on samfirmware is wid a bootloader.
Anyway thanks for that small file (boot.tar)
Can I flash only the wanted portions of a rom after removing the rest using 'total commander' always.
hello have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem i think it may be a carrier(movistar) thing
i dont know.
Any help its appreciated
the problem shown for clearer understanding:
(you know the youtebe thing) /watch?v=yO5h072_dzg
PS: thanks for any help
didierdalz said:
hello have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem i think it may be a carrier(movistar) thing
i dont know.
Any help its appreciated
the problem shown for clearer understanding:
(you know the youtebe thing) /watch?v=yO5h072_dzg
PS: thanks for any help
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that happen after you make Downgrade ?
EgyMan said:
that happen after you make Downgrade ?
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as i said "i have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem"
i never was able to do anything root or downgrade related stuff. I have all stock firmware. never was able to past that screen
didierdalz said:
as i said "i have this phone since it came out never did any root or nothing
because of the shown problem"
i never was able to do anything root or downgrade related stuff. I have all stock firmware. never was able to past that screen
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try use mobile odin ?
Downgrade the latest Samsung devices is the MOST STUPID THING you can do in your life. Maybe 2 or 3 persons dont agree with me but the rest for sure yes. If ODIN let u downgrade becomes the problems with wifi, data, random reboots, warranty void, battery drains... And you downgrade coz ur phone was bad with the new android version? Come on! :laugh:
Joku1981 said:
Downgrade the latest Samsung devices is the MOST STUPID THING you can do in your life. Maybe 2 or 3 persons dont agree with me but the rest for sure yes. If ODIN let u downgrade becomes the problems with wifi, data, random reboots, warranty void, battery drains... And you downgrade coz ur phone was bad with the new android version? Come on! :laugh:
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dude wtf i have to go in that mode if i want to root "Come on! :laugh"
EgyMan said:
try use mobile odin ?
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you must be rooted and i cant as i said before
I updated my grand 2 to 4.4.2. But I found slow net issues.
Then I try to back to 4.3 jellybean. But I flash again by odin.
But suddenly hang in updating. I remove battery. But I put battery now my phone not charge not going to on .
I use many methods to make again download mode. But fail.
I make jtag but fail no boot.
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
Please help please
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I updated my grand 2 to 4.4.2. But I found slow net issues.
Then I try to back to 4.3 jellybean. But I flash again by odin.
But suddenly hang in updating. I remove battery. But I put battery now my phone not charge not going to on .
I use many methods to make again download mode. But fail.
I make jtag but fail no boot.
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
Please help please
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u should go to samsung care and tell them while updating ur mobile with kies ur pc got restarted due to power failure now ur stuck in this condition same problem happened with me and i did this same thing
SHAWN_FROST said:
u should go to samsung care and tell them while updating ur mobile with kies ur pc got restarted due to power failure now ur stuck in this condition same problem happened with me and i did this same thing
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I bought the mobile from a country other than the country in which I'm in now
Mobile need to change mother,bord...it is a very expensive
downgrading wont work
cuz kitkat comes with Knox it wont allow downgrade will hard brick
flasks said:
cuz kitkat comes with Knox it wont allow downgrade will hard brick
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What is the solution my brother ...?
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
drrami75 said:
I updated my grand 2 to 4.4.2. But I found slow net issues.
Then I try to back to 4.3 jellybean. But I flash again by odin.
But suddenly hang in updating. I remove battery. But I put battery now my phone not charge not going to on .
I use many methods to make again download mode. But fail.
I make jtag but fail no boot.
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
Please help please
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No you can't downgrade back to Jelly Bean. Doing so will hard brick your phone.
Frappy said:
No you can't downgrade back to Jelly Bean. Doing so will hard brick your phone.
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What is the solution my brother ...?
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
drrami75 said:
What is the solution my brother ...?
Please give me any way to put back my grand 2 in normal position.
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Dont panic right now.
search the forums for info on unbricking dead G7102. Unfortunately, I have not read the forums posts for unbricking as I did not have the issue.
schubeir
I hope u are on warranty...cuz u gotta replace motherboard
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I hope u are on warranty...cuz u gotta replace motherboard
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I bought the mobile from a country other than the country in which I'm in now
thankx man
The only solution is to take it to a service centre. no other options yet.
try reflashing kitkat firmware.
if you able to go to download mode you can try reflashing latest build of kitkat through odin. Good luck...try reflashing kitkat firmware.
anuajayan said:
The only solution is to take it to a service centre. no other options yet.
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yes no other option for this i myself has faced this tried every thing and at last went to the service centre the asked me whether its rooted or not
never say yes tell them that your were upgrading through kies and the pc rebooted and then phone is not booting then they will not ask you anything simply they will change the motherboard and upload the IEMI and other software and give it to you(estimated time of repair depends on the availability of the hardware)
I have galaxy note 3. I needed a good tutorial i can use to downgrade from stock firmware 5.0 rooted. To 4.3.
Reason battery drain too fast and phone always hot why using.
Please any help will be glady appreciated
See identical questions.
Downgrade may not work if bootloader is wrong.
JJEgan said:
See identical questions.
Downgrade may not work if bootloader is wrong.
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How do i know bootloader is wrong? As i stated in my orevious am new to android.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/using-thread-search-bar-t3838908
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/2494?query=downgrade
As you know nothing and refuse to search or read i suggest a phone repair shop .
JJEgan said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/using-thread-search-bar-t3838908
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/2494?query=downgrade
As you know nothing and refuse to search or read i suggest a phone repair shop .
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Last i check you not the only one in this forum. I was in 5.1.1 your half way opinion fot me boot looped. Then i had to retore to stock firmware. If you cant help better not comment. And always don't think you know it all. MF . i can get off this forum just because of you.
You signed up to XDA rules.
Hardly my fault you are unable to read and search.
That is why I suggested mobile repair.
Brick or bootloop is you doing something wrong .
Goodbye.
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JJEgan said:
You signed up to XDA rules.
Hardly my fault you are unable to read and search.
That is why I suggested mobile repair.
Brick or bootloop is you doing something wrong .
Goodbye.
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Keep you thought bro.