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[Q] Can i flash DEFY+ rom on DEFY

I have DEFY(Green Lens).If i flash stock DEFY+ rom on DEFY, what issues will i face other than camera and battery issues. Will i be able to flash froyo sbf again and go back to froyo.

if you flash defy+rom your camera wont work. and do not use sbf.it will update the bl version and it will be difficult to go back to 2.2
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Battery wont be recognised and you won't be able to charge the device unless you flash a patch.
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Don't flash Defy+ sbf on Defy. It will become a mess. You can't downgrade is not that easy so don't try.

What if that has been done? And why the phone reboots when cold?
Greetings,
I am about to start a new question before I catch this thread, so I write a reply. If the admin thinks this should be a new thread, please do appropriate operation.
This is my situation: My phone is given by others, and I don't know much about its history. Upon receiving it has been flashed a system (not original) which says (I write down from the "about phone" info menu):
System version
45.3.109.ME525+.ChinaRetail.cn.CN
Model
ME525+
Android version
2.3.6
Baseband version
EPU93_U_00.60.00
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4
[email protected] #1
Internel verion number
4.5.3-109_DPP-11_WSL
So it seems to be a Defy+. But, after studied information from internet including this forum, I think it's actually a Defy:
1, On a label inside the box it says MB525;
2, The battery is 1500mAh instead of 1650mAh;
And, my camera lens looks green. Using method from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694 , "Detected SOC device" appeared. The ROM has been rooted when using ADB.
Though unlike the previous replies of this thread said, camera and battery is OK, The phone has a very BIG problem: it reboots when cold. When the temperature is under 15℃ or so, it will reboot. The reboot process seems raised some heat, and after temperature is down it reboots again, until the battery is drained out. If it is really cold, the phone will reboot continuously and never get into system.
I think maybe it has something to do with the modified ROM, So after studying the beginner's guide of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982, I flashed a stock ROM from http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php, which, as it should be, get my phone "fake bricked " (dark screen when boots). I realized that because the phone has been flashed a defy+ ROM, with the BL=5, I cannot flash any stock ROM listed in that page. So in a haste I flashed a ME525+ ROM again from another site (claiming this is an stock ROM), which says ME525+, Android 2.3.4, 4.5.3-109_DPP-6, and the phone can boot now, but the reboot-when-cold problem persists, besides the camera is useless.
I appreciate that you read my lengthy description. So my question is:
1, Is this reboot-when-cold problem related to the ROM? or, can the problem be fixed (without sending back to moto-factory, for it's long out of the warranty)?
2, If the reboot-when-cold problem can not be fixed, Which ROM should I flash now?

luweitest said:
Greetings,
I am about to start a new question before I catch this thread, so I write a reply. If the admin thinks this should be a new thread, please do appropriate operation.
This is my situation: My phone is given by others, and I don't know much about its history. Upon receiving it has been flashed a system (not original) which says (I write down from the "about phone" info menu):
System version
45.3.109.ME525+.ChinaRetail.cn.CN
Model
ME525+
Android version
2.3.6
Baseband version
EPU93_U_00.60.00
Kernel version
2.6.32.9-ga28fcc4
[email protected] #1
Internel verion number
4.5.3-109_DPP-11_WSL
So it seems to be a Defy+. But, after studied information from internet including this forum, I think it's actually a Defy:
1, On a label inside the box it says MB525;
2, The battery is 1500mAh instead of 1650mAh;
And, my camera lens looks green. Using method from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116694 , "Detected SOC device" appeared. The ROM has been rooted when using ADB.
Though unlike the previous replies of this thread said, camera and battery is OK, The phone has a very BIG problem: it reboots when cold. When the temperature is under 15℃ or so, it will reboot. The reboot process seems raised some heat, and after temperature is down it reboots again, until the battery is drained out. If it is really cold, the phone will reboot continuously and never get into system.
I think maybe it has something to do with the modified ROM, So after studying the beginner's guide of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982, I flashed a stock ROM from http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php, which, as it should be, get my phone "fake bricked " (dark screen when boots). I realized that because the phone has been flashed a defy+ ROM, with the BL=5, I cannot flash any stock ROM listed in that page. So in a haste I flashed a ME525+ ROM again from another site (claiming this is an stock ROM), which says ME525+, Android 2.3.4, 4.5.3-109_DPP-6, and the phone can boot now, but the reboot-when-cold problem persists, besides the camera is useless.
I appreciate that you read my lengthy description. So my question is:
1, Is this reboot-when-cold problem related to the ROM? or, can the problem be fixed (without sending back to moto-factory, for it's long out of the warranty)?
2, If the reboot-when-cold problem can not be fixed, Which ROM should I flash now?
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Try a defy SBF. If it leads to a soft brick then try a defy plus SBF. The camera can be fixed by using only 2ndboot ROMs.
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk

hotdog125 said:
Try a defy SBF. If it leads to a soft brick then try a defy plus SBF. The camera can be fixed by using only 2ndboot ROMs.
Sent from my MB526 using Tapatalk
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That's what I have done; it seems I have to try those Defy+ SBFs until find a one that suites for Defy.

solved
I struggled through finally. After I flashed CyanogenMod 7 stable, cm-7.2.0-jordan.zip, the phone does not reboot at low temperature again. Before that I flashed a modified BL5 JDGC_2.12.0.sbf from other sites. I can't imagine why other ROMs will cause low temperature rebooting, but anyway the phone now works in winter and I am happy! :victory:

HELP
I apologize for flooding.
Dear doctors, I need your help VERY!
The problem is this: Download Firmware "CM10 (18.11 + fixBlue). Sbf" decided to ask ..
Turned off the phone, turned on while holding the top of the rocker gromkasti through RSD sew phone, at the end of installation, the phone asks him to reboot manually, generally overloaded, nothing should be loaded, worked the battery, the identity thing, then threw this thing, after a while the phone stopped included at connection to a computer white LED lights up, and the sound came from the connection on the PC .. decided to postpone until the phone as he waited for the new display and touch screen, just 3 days before receiving parts, decided to try to flash .. diode zagoraetsya only when connected to fraction of a second, and gave sound on the PC. Now the identity thing, not only delivers sound on the PC .. and not simply vklyuchaetsya (bought a frog, thought battery low, etc., loaded it as it is .. and no results ..
Doctors ask for your help regarding my vostonavleniya Defayki ..
ps Tried different Mutko with USB, battery and buttons, nothing pomaglo (RSD does not see (sorry for the google translate

Bricked or not ?

I was running my defy on cm10 then found a cm10 ready sbf to update, and then it gave me "bootloader 9.10 err:A5,70,39,00,27" so i found my original sbf and flashed it and I got a blank screen(no backlight even) but the phone shows on RSDlite as connected and I can reflash another sbf, and it shows the progress (and sw updating on the phone) then the same blackscreen (with white led on)
So did I cook my phone or am i missing something, thanks for help in advance !

Defy with what kernel on CM10?
Is it redlense or greenlense?
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what base sbf did you use on cm10? what kernel? what sbfs did you flash after that? does the white led light up when connected to rsd lite?
please give specific information when asking for help, otherwise its like telling a doctor on the phone: "i have a headache, heal me!"...

I was using this sbf base: JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1 ,
with froyo kernel(by epsilon) and epsilons cm10 nighlties(my phone is red lens, although the app which shows the color shows as green),
then i applied this cm-10.Quarx(17.08).Defy+.red.bl4-5.fixed (i have no idea what i'm doing xD) and then i got the bootloader error.
UPDATE: i got it to boot and its working fine but apparently i flashed a defy+ rom(DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed) because it shows as mb526 wtf ? , and if i try to flash gb kernel i get back to the lovely bootloader error(cm10 is now working without the kernel )

Vcek said:
I was using this sbf base: JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1 ,
with froyo kernel(by epsilon) and epsilons cm10 nighlties(my phone is red lens, although the app which shows the color shows as green),
then i applied this cm-10.Quarx(17.08).Defy+.red.bl4-5.fixed (i have no idea what i'm doing xD) and then i got the bootloader error.
UPDATE: i got it to boot and its working fine but apparently i flashed a defy+ rom(DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed) because it shows as mb526 wtf ? , and if i try to flash gb kernel i get back to the lovely bootloader error(cm10 is now working without the kernel )
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i love it when people do things they have no idea of, and they get surprised when they brick the phone and then beg for help on xda... -.-
first of all, read this thread, so you know what you have done and why it was stupid.
second of all, if the app shows you have green lens (soc module), then it is right.
and third, if you flash an mb526 sbf, of course everything recognizes it as mb526... and because you have an mb526 now (probably without any working camera, because you have green lens), you dont need the gb kernel no more, because you already have it.
funny, right, doing things that you dont understand? now you have made yourself a phone without camera...

My phone is red lens(i think apps read info from kernel), and the camera is working fine on cm10 now although i have done an unnecessary update to cg version(atleast what i think it is),
currently im trying to fix the following problems:
1- Most apps cant detect MEDIA on my sd although i can browse it on all file explorers (EDIT: Fixed itself after another re-install)
2- compass is gone crazy(EDIT: found out this is problem with cm10)
I don't why you're getting so aggressive on me, you have no idea how many times i've read all the guides (im not a dev, im just a poweruser)
i'll be glad if you helped

Defy bricked; not responding, need Help!

Hey folks,
before I start describing my fu*k-up let me thank you for all your great work and support in this forum! It makes tinkering with your phone so much fun
Unless you achieve what I have..
Last Rom was the JB buil from Quarx. I was running the build 31.12. and wantend to update to 07.01. This is where I got stuck in a bootloop and started freaking out. I did a lot of random stuff and finally tried reverting to stock to start all over again. I tried doing this via this method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1807899
Now my phone does not respond at all. When I try to power it up with the Vol+ pressed, nothing happens, same with Vol-
Only response I get is when I plug it in to my PC and start RSD Lite, it shows up as a device, but without any information on the device.
What the hell am I supposed to do now?
Thanks in advance for your help (If there is any hope at all..)

I think this might have to do with the fact that I used the wrong sbf. Which one do I have to use? The last one I flashed was JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1_BLUR_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA030.0R_USAJORDANRTDACH_P025_A008_HWp3_WIG144847_Service1FF
Is there a sbf that will work for sure? I don't need to downgrade afterwards..

I think you need to go MacGyver.
Your battery level is too low so you need to take a usb cord, cut it, expose the wires and connect them directly to the battery.
There are detailed guides with pictures around (I know I had to this once).

Apart from battery which seems to go dead try BL6 sbf. The one you used doesn't allow to flash CM10 2ndboot builds (BL5 Chinese eclair, which caused a lot of troubles).
Regarding battery my proposal would be an external charger or other defy. Doing McGyver you shall do it with caution.
My proposal is 4.5.1-134_DFP-137 retail Nordic from this site - defy+ fROM which causes no problems for most of custom ROMs. Anyway even after the ROM you've flashed there is no way back to froyo.

Try This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1820282

[Q] Please help! No booting after flashing a SBF with RSD lite (SOLVED)

Hello,
I know there are some similar threads, but the solutions given don't seem to work for me.. I really hope somebody could help me here.
History:
It's a green lens defy, that first came with Eclair. I had to send it in once and it came back with Froyo, which was slow and annoying from the start.
I wanted to get quarx CM10 (Android 4.1) on it. To do this, I followed the video guides by "locslikes" on youtube (can't post links). First I rooted the phone, then on the video "MOTOROLA DEFY UnBrick Restore to Default SBF" we have been following the xda thread "Is your DEFY / DEFY+ bricked??". It links to a list of sbf-files, and I wasn't really sure which one to take. So I just took one that seemed appropriate. Later I tried some others, so I'm not really sure which one is flashed right now. I tried those marked "retail Germany" or "(provider name) Germany". RSD lite 4.9 does the flashing without any problems and gives me a "PASS" in the end. I tried the SBFs called "JRDNEM_U3_2.21.0", "JRDNEM_U3_2.34.1", "JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1".
Now the problem is that the defy doesn't boot at all. I can't get into the bootloader or anything, there is just no reaction from the power button. When I plug it on my computer, the white LED goes on and RSD lite sees my phone. I can flash other SBFs and while the flashing is happening, the defy screen works and gives me the message "updating...". However, when it is done, again no booting is possible. I do not get a Motorola logo or anything, nothing happens.
How can I go back (or go forward to CM10)?
Please help me, I would appreciate it so much.
Regards
Philipp

it seems like you have to send your phone to repair service again, this issue seems to be with the bootloader has been corrupted and you wont be able to solve it yourself, it needs some very high skills and riffbox hardware flasher with jtag which is really difficult

I was able to boot it up again... this SBF-file did the job for me:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-003_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOO2DE_P021_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
I just kept trying lots of different SBFs and that was the solution....
Sorry for bothering you

Please provide the link for that file ...
Hey i been searching for a good SBF file for my Motorola defy MB525 ... every SBF i been trying to flash did not work/ boot but only one i came across which is not stable i.e. JORDN_U3_97.21.51.rar well .. i'll b much obliged if u provide me the link (with spaces) n help me out buddy. you can send the link to this address > [email protected]
Feomatar said:
I was able to boot it up again... this SBF-file did the job for me:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_177-003_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOO2DE_P021_A010_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
I just kept trying lots of different SBFs and that was the solution....
Sorry for bothering you
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[Q] Help with Seriously Bricked Moto DEFY, PLEASE READ!

Hello,
i know there has been a lot of Bricked Defy posts and i've read them all. I think my Defy is really Dead.
I had my stock Defy and wanted to instal Kit Kat on it. So i followed some you tube instructions and made it work., the only problem is that i did not have Data working any more, i could make calls but no Data., So, i decided to restore my previously created nanobackup (is that how it's called) anyway, it failed, gave me some errors and my phone was then stuck on the M screen.
As i previously made it work, i grabbed the SBF i had and flashed it using RSDLite and now my phone is dead :crying:
I first thought that my battery was dead, but i have performed the MacGiver method and i can see the phone on RSDlite and i can re-flash it, but nothing happens, when the flash finishes, it reports "PASSED" and the phone remains dead.
as i read in other posts the phone is not booting because my SBF is older or something, but i cannot find any newer SBF, i have the following:
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-33-INESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT15_P001_A013_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_145-012_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B5TEL03B.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOTELSTRA_P013_A007_M003_HWp3_Service1FF
and
DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-137_ND_SIGN_SIGNED_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTNORD_P009_A011_HWp3_Service1FF
Since had kitkat working for a while, do i have to find a much newer SBF, some newer than Kitkat or what should i do.
Any help would be greatly appretiate it.
thank you

I will follow this thread.
I think i may have the same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58344502&postcount=464