[Q] Tmobile throttling - Networking

I have looked quite a bit an may just be overlooking this subject but can anyone give me advise on Tmobile throttling me. I had a HD2 and the last ROM radio kernel combo I had allowed me to go undetected with Tmobile. It showed I had used 0mb data. I switched to the S2 and I have now gone over my 5GB data limit. I just changed to the Darkside uncle2 with 3.0.8 kernal and blaze radio. The only unconfirmed fix for this I have seen was not 100% and had to be done when not in throttle status. I have 2.5 weeks left until I am reset but dont want to wait that long if I dont have to. Any incite would be helpful even a link to a different thread would be great.

c5vette211 said:
I have looked quite a bit an may just be overlooking this subject but can anyone give me advise on Tmobile throttling me. I had a HD2 and the last ROM radio kernel combo I had allowed me to go undetected with Tmobile. It showed I had used 0mb data. I switched to the S2 and I have now gone over my 5GB data limit. I just changed to the Darkside uncle2 with 3.0.8 kernal and blaze radio. The only unconfirmed fix for this I have seen was not 100% and had to be done when not in throttle status. I have 2.5 weeks left until I am reset but dont want to wait that long if I dont have to. Any incite would be helpful even a link to a different thread would be great.
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No backdoor for sgs2 5 gigs in two weeks dengggg hahaha
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c5vette211 said:
I have looked quite a bit an may just be overlooking this subject but can anyone give me advise on Tmobile throttling me. I had a HD2 and the last ROM radio kernel combo I had allowed me to go undetected with Tmobile. It showed I had used 0mb data. I switched to the S2 and I have now gone over my 5GB data limit. I just changed to the Darkside uncle2 with 3.0.8 kernal and blaze radio. The only unconfirmed fix for this I have seen was not 100% and had to be done when not in throttle status. I have 2.5 weeks left until I am reset but dont want to wait that long if I dont have to. Any incite would be helpful even a link to a different thread would be great.
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Darkside uncle..lol
I don't think there's anything really
. Best bet is to use as much wifi as you can..there's something out there but that knowledge is been kept due.to ppl's abuse..
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Pretty much same thing happend to me. I called tmo and pretty much acted really pissed off(as I was) but I was still KIND, just annoyed by their service.
I told them there was NO WAY I used up my five gigs and that it must be a flaw/glitch in the system. Obviously told them I'm a good customer and that being throttled is a game changer and that if they did not reset my data I would probably switch carriers the same day. I said i would also file a complaint with the BBB so that I didn't have to pay a cancellation fee(yes that works I and some friends have done it before ).
And voila they reset my data with hardly any trouble at all
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jr_718 said:
Darkside uncle..lol
I don't think there's anything really
. Best bet is to use as much wifi as you can..there's something out there but that knowledge is been kept due.to ppl's abuse..
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Why do you say to that ROM? And I live in BFE so my 4g is faster than my WIFI sometimes so

crackmulah said:
Pretty much same thing happend to me. I called tmo and pretty much acted really pissed off(as I was) but I was still KIND, just annoyed by their service.
I told them there was NO WAY I used up my five gigs and that it must be a flaw/glitch in the system. Obviously told them I'm a good customer and that being throttled is a game changer and that if they did not reset my data I would probably switch carriers the same day. I said i would also file a complaint with the BBB so that I didn't have to pay a cancellation fee(yes that works I and some friends have done it before ).
And voila they reset my data with hardly any trouble at all
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This was the first thing I did and to my surprise they did nothing. I have been with them 10yrs and never had any CS problems until now. I complained that I couldn't buy a refurbished S2 for $99 (offer only avail to new customers) so they gave me a new one for free. LOL but you are right total game changer. I will try and be more forceful and throw around the BBB a bit (didnt think of that )

c5vette211 said:
Why do you say to that ROM?
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You meant to say darkside UCLE but.you said UnCLE ..typo
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jr_718 said:
You meant to say darkside UCLE but.you said UnCLE ..typo
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Oh haha my bad

I just called them jumped up to 10 and yup it's reset I can go back to 5 now easier way then filing a complaint just tell them you want to go with 10 when you are throttled to try it out see if you like it if not you can go back to 5 but by doing that it does reset your data usage lol
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c5vette211 said:
This was the first thing I did and to my surprise they did nothing. I have been with them 10yrs and never had any CS problems until now. I complained that I couldn't buy a refurbished S2 for $99 (offer only avail to new customers) so they gave me a new one for free. LOL but you are right total game changer. I will try and be more forceful and throw around the BBB a bit (didnt think of that )
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I like that idea of complaining about the refurbished! I didn't even know they had that available at all
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c5vette211 said:
I have looked quite a bit an may just be overlooking this subject but can anyone give me advise on Tmobile throttling me. I had a HD2 and the last ROM radio kernel combo I had allowed me to go undetected with Tmobile. It showed I had used 0mb data. I switched to the S2 and I have now gone over my 5GB data limit. I just changed to the Darkside uncle2 with 3.0.8 kernal and blaze radio. The only unconfirmed fix for this I have seen was not 100% and had to be done when not in throttle status. I have 2.5 weeks left until I am reset but dont want to wait that long if I dont have to. Any incite would be helpful even a link to a different thread would be great.
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Well I have been told that killing three processes while running the darkside rom will kill the data cap. Basically bandwidth usage is zero every month. What I want to know is what is going on that makes this work, and why it cant be done on the stock rooted ROM. I would love to learn the technical details behind why and how this works, I find this incredibly fascinating. It may just be my background as a seasoned Unix system admin, but I am completely obsessed with finding out what makes this hack work.
Also, you may enjoy reading my thread. It is not exactly related, but I do discuss some very relevant issues. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677490

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New to Incredible

I am leaving att simply because of their shotty data plan. I am also looking at the Incredible because of the unlocked unencrypted bootloader as the droid x has as well as the htc quality that ive seen in the past. I listen to alot of internet radio and 2gbs just isnt enough sorry att and im even more sorry that after 6 years youll be losing 3 lines. At 150.00 a month.
Without starting a pissing match, what rom is good on battery and speed? Generally looking for some user experience reviews.
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HeyItsLou's ROMs always gave me great battery life, with Chad's kernels. Right now I am running CM7 Nightly #7, and the battery life is alright for me, not bad enough to switch to something else. Other than that I really like CM7.
I've always had great battery life with the Inc/Evo hybrid ROMs too, I know Lou's got one...there's others out there too by Myn and Chingy.
Thanks! How is your data on verizon?
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Like you, I switched from ATT. I had a Curve with them, and the BB was slow along with their network. I had friends on Verizon, and I loved Verizon's phones, so I jumped. Been happy ever since. I live in Madison, WI, and haven't had any issues with 3g drops, dropped calls, or anything like that. I use WiFi alot too, about 50% of the time. I haven't had any complaints about it since switching, it was a great move I think.
This is the kind of thing i need to hear. I am on long island and its not that data is that bad, but att just doesnt get it, 2gbs just isnt enough.
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Just adding some input, i love verizon alot and literally have no complaints. I live in California, and i cant remember the last time i dropped a call, or thought 3g was too slow. I use ALOT of data and its a great feeling not having to care about any 3g limits.
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Just adding some input, i love verizon alot and literally have no complaints. I live in California, and i cant remember the last time i dropped a call, or thought 3g was too slow. I use ALOT of data and its a great feeling not having to care about any 3g limits.
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Agreed. The last time I remember a call dropping wasn't even my phone/Verizon's fault, it was my brother on Sprint that dropped it. I use data way more than voice, and use my phone heavy for work emails and phone calls (phone calls - only if I am out of the office though).
This is the kind of thing i need to hear. I am on long island and its not that data is that bad, but att just doesnt get it, 2gbs just isnt enough.
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Do you know anyone that uses Verizon in Long Island that you could ask about the service? Maybe stop someone you see with an Inc or another Verizon phone and ask, just to get an idea of how it operates where you are at. I wouldn't think there would be issues. Just a thought.
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davwman said:
I should talk to my brother in law. He has a droidx and knows nothing about rooting and flashing and all that good stuff, but he seems to have zero issues. the best part about this whole thing was when i was talking to the retention dept and praising them trying to pull the unlimited data out of them the call dropped! Which sealed the deal. I had verizon years ago and dont know why i left to begin with. Their unlimited data blows away att's $25.00 2 gb plan.
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My 0.02 cents. Versions network is vastly superior to att. In terms of coverage my dad had an iphone on att and we were driving in Minnesota using google nav to get somewhere. His phone hits a dead spot. We switch to my inc and get there. His phone was in the dead spot the entire time after that. I mean 0 bars, and he wants to switch his entire company next time the contacts run out
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Verizon has more coverage for sure. But if you're in an area that actually has at&t coverage, I also think you won't be disappointed at Verizons 3G speeds.
I'm able to stream hulu (modded flash, normally does not stream to phones) to my phone perfectly, watch full episodes without anymore than a 5 second buffer. What makes that statement better is I'm able to do it in an area that has low bar 3G coverage.
And you're right about the unlocked bootloader the incredible has. My dad has the X and there isn't a whole lot of options you can do to increase performance and speed. Pretty much you're only able to swap out ROM's.
The incredible is different, I've been able to change kernels, the splash screen and boot animation, as well as the ROM.
The ROM's choices available are really pretty amazing. There's a bunch of really talented developers here, you can take a quick look at the list here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
So I would definitely recommend you jump ship and go with the Incredible on Verizon
I am definitley jumping ship and bringing all three lines over to verizon. I am waiting until monday when i am off from work again so i can sit down and make sure everything is ported over correctly. I already am deciding what rom and kernel im running and it seems to point to skyraider and maybe incredikernel unless you have other suggestions. As far as rooting goes ill be using unrevoked.
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davwman said:
I already am deciding what rom and kernel im running and it seems to point to skyraider and maybe incredikernel unless you have other suggestions. As far as rooting goes ill be using unrevoked.
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Ah excellent choices my friend
You may end up trying out some other ROM's, I know I have- but I always found myself going back to that combination because of the stability, speed and battery life it has provided me.
There are plenty of ROM's I have never tried, so it's all out there to experiment with.
Believe me I flash roms more than I probably should but, Im really excited to use android the way it was meant to be used with unlimited data. Im talking 8-12 hours of continuous sirius and/or pandora usage.
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davwman said:
Believe me I flash roms more than I probably should but, Im really excited to use android the way it was meant to be used with unlimited data. Im talking 8-12 hours of continuous sirius and/or pandora usage.
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Buy a bigger battery my friend.
Also, I never have any issues with vzw when I'm on L.I. or anywhere else. Enjoy.
I get a 25% discount from verizon so I will be getting the 2150mah battery.
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I get a 25% discount from verizon so I will be getting the 2150mah battery.
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ah that's what I'm using
It's good that you're getting it straight off so you get use to it with it on, some people have a hard time switching.
Well I use the seidio 3000mah battery which is a monster on my captivate. So the size should be no problem. With a little more research i found redemption rom which looks nice. One question I can't get a definitive answer to is on radios. I have flashed radios in the past and was wondering if its absolutely necessary to on the incredible?
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As far as speed goes, I use Incredibly Reengineered its uberfast... for battery life I installed Set CPU to save on batt when I'm low, but I'm never far from a charger. If battery life is more important there's a bunch of ROMs that have excellent life but it's all personal preference.
I am going with re-engineered v2.3.2 and using the lou's #8 which is already built into the rom. As far as sense goes I'll be stripping it and using the aosp theme. As far as radio's go should I just use the one that is shipped with the phone which is being delivered on friday or should I flash a different one? What about HBoot version? I didnt see if I needed to update HBoot to a different version. Thanks in advance!

New software sprint has

Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like ciq.
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Overstew said:
Sounds like ciq.
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Yup.
But who cares about the baseband? It's just the modem version.
Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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fury15 said:
Most likely what send the info. But I tested it on my phone ko and I had the no ciq roms and it still read them.... So idk I'm one of the techs that knows what he is doing there lol
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More information would be appreciated. Name of the software, how it's connecting, etc.
Only thing I know is the tool I use to check it... Its the thing that auto activates you're device so I don't know much
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Whoa sprint gonna start crackin down on the roots? J/k just kuz I highly doubt they really care all that much...
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*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
pixlz said:
*cue dramatic chord* wow actually.
considering what sprints up to with their base stations, customer service improvements, and the fact that even when i worked for em 3-4 years ago, they were always updating their rms/rms+/fast/snap/fdt systems, i can't say i'm too surprised.
the leg up they go for on the other companies afterall is trying to be the first to the gate with tech.
anything our system info can tell, i'm sure they can see. kernel/rom/etc. i doubt they'd act on it unless its a store visit though. or i'd hope not anyways. it'd be strange and surprising to see the company thats the easiest on the rom community(they're the only ones who kept their mouth shut about wireless tether so far, and the easiest with 3rd party apps from the beginning) to turn on them.
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They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
I had my external speaker go out and took it up to the Sprint store to get the speaker replaced. The tech asked me if I rooted it, but he didn't have a problem with that.
The problem I had was that replacing the speaker screwed up the phone somehow so I had to re-flash. Meaning it wouldn't boot properly. But that is another story.
bender_123 said:
They knew on my wifes Intercept two weeks ago and the tech support just asked if rom I was using was better than stock. I said yes, and he said that it s the only way to get that phone to function properly. He then took care of my issue as if it was a "non-rooted" phone.
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So they knew just from you calling on that rooted phone that you had a custom ROM on there? Wow, not too bad.
OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
fury15 said:
Sprint had a software that send them your baseband version. So if you calling in for troubleshooting on your device be careful. If the rep knows what there doing and what to look for they can mark your device damaged beyond repair
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Sounds like you left out a lot of information:
1. How do you know this? Is this something that happened to you or is this heresay / speculation?
2. Was this done on Stock phone or one with SRF/Bonsai (with no ciq?)?
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OK - it makes sense that a tech/repair guy at the local Sprint store might be able to tell if you've "rooted" your phone ( by the way - didn't you all Odin back to stock ? ) ; but are you saying that Sprint HQ can tell if I'm rooted/ROMed just by me calling them from my Epic ? ....... Big Brother 4 Sure ( and they prolly reading this post , too )
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I could care less about the Intercept...that damn thing can burn in a pit...which may actually help it function better than it currently does.
Not sure if they have a system or not, but I laughed that the dude knew the only way it works is with a custom ROM. I have Ubentdroid on it and at least the capacitive buttons work now.
If you can't tell, I would not recommend the Intercept. It sucks more than the suckiest suck that ever sucked.
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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Sometimes its an issue that isnt a biggie, so unroot is a waste of time. With my wifes, it was that her phone stopped being recognized on Sprint service. It ended up being an account screw up.
Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
DCRocks said:
This all goes back to the basic common sense I have followed from day 1 with my Android phone
make sure it is 100% stock before going to Spring for any troubleshooting assistance.
I don't understand why anyone would call sprint for help, BEFORE they had done this anyways.
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EXACTLY! why take a chance? especially if you have lost/stolen protection, you don't want to give them a reason to screw you over. good to know they can figure it out over the phone as well tho. hopefully they stay content letting people root away w/ no consequence except for a voided warranty, considering all the reasons they give customers for rooting (CIQ, DRM, ect...)
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Well this is simple, we can just create a flashable zip to simply change the baseband to display the stock one.
(Haven't done any rom developement, so I don't know where that file lies.)
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Baseband is your modem version...
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So why us Sprint detecting I'm in mikfroyo 4.62

Anyone know why when I tried to open a network support ticket they are detecting I'm on a mikfroyo rom. I changed Roms so many times the past 6months.. so what the hell is up with that:
They even said you have to be on a official Rom.. man how they detect this info is pretty funny. And how wrong it is.
But any way to fix that issue
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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...
I don't need support. I do wish to inform them of their network problem here... If so I have 8 other people with Sprint who are official.. who can report the network problem aswell ... Why would I need support if my phone is perfectly fine. And besides the fact I'm not running the Rom they are indicating I am...
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Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
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Why do you think they would give you support when you voided your warranty by rooting and installing another ROM?
I mean seriously...
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You only voided your warranty with HTC, not sprint. I've taken my rooted/S-OFF device many times and have talked to the store reps and they have no policy against rooted devices. There is stores that will give you a hassle just to be lazy, meanwhile other stores will ask you to simply flash back to stock to help narrow down issues caused by software or hardware.
Oh so a version from stock that just has apps removed that ate considered bloated. So that can be a phone error. Dude I've flashed many roms kernels and radios and its the network. I'm not after phone support. I don't need a warranty on my Damn phone but I pay them for service via their towers if they have issues with it then they should fix their network problems. I will pay insurion if I have phone issues its why I have them.
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The guy just said to install a stock Rom and give him info. The guy was like okay 3rd party. You need to install stock . But he did agree there is probably a problem in the area.
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ANyways the guy said I should keep stock until testing is done well. Im on a modified stock rom etc (testing this rom out). Anyways is there a way to show them my software/build number as stock or whatever to fool them when i re provision it to update their system?
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Again... think about it for a little bit. They don't know if you have 8 other people who are experiencing they same problem you are.
They're not going to waste their time with a problem that could be the result of a modded phone.
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no they are not wasting their time providing CUSTOMER support to a paying CUSTOMER
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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culua said:
How can Sprint finds out if your rooted with a custom Rom? Even they never saw the phone?
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I used to Run Mikfroyo but the thing is I don't know how they know I was on a custom rom. Maybe when provision your phone it sends that data. Now I'm On a different rom but i was unaware how he knew. The guy *PinkElmo* basically just said to go back to stock ROM for the duration of the testing (sounds like he not only not has a problem with it but sounds like he uses custom as wellXD).
I'm still puzzled as to how they found out...
I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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I also currently using mikfroyo 4.61. But I didn't start rooting after a month signing up.
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I had to provision a few months back though... But It Got me wondering. I have been downloading a stock rom at 199mb it should take roughly 2-8 hours on the Sprints NOW DialUp Network
Sprint has a program called OMA-DM. This program has all the information from the status section of your device. When I worked for sprint we would have customers update their data profile, this would send the information to the tool. The rep can then see what rom you are on. However this did not work on AOSP roms since they do not update the profile.
If you want to fool sprint update your profile under a stock unmodified rom, then flash to AOSP, the info for the sense rom would be still in the system.
Furthermore they can see if you have updated the profile, so if you tell them that you did they will be able to see if you actually did or not.. They are also able to view all the transactions with dates and times between your phone and the tool.
My advise to you is to suck it up and run the official rom until the testing is over, usually about a week.
Also sprint has no control over a custom rom, so they automatically have you update profile and firmware to the current version to ensure that the phone is working to their standards and things that they have control over.
TL;DR - Quit complaining and use a stock rom so sprint can do their testing.
The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
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The complaining in this thread has me puzzled. Run a stock Tom for them to test, reinstall favorite Tom when done...
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is your favorite "Tom" a "Tom Collins"? hahaha, sorry. i had to.
Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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Thanks and for data profile. Just the one under updates? If so it would have shown mikg if clean rom I got a download of stock and was going to flash it when i can before Tuesday since Monday is a holiday...
Thanks for informing me how they detect what Rom your on.
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Yes the one under the updates.
scottspa74 said:
I imagine sprint can know quite a bit about your phone. When I had my diamond, (or maybe it was my Evo, I forget) something wasn't working right. I got on the phone with a tech, and he proceeded to to operate my phone while I was holding my phone. I could see the screen clicks, and him going from one menu to another, operating my phone remotely. Blew me away.
As for the monitoring SW mentioned earlier in this thread, does it read build prop values? Cuz I'm guessing that's how they get your device info.
Lastly, post 2 and 3 about not expecting sprint to work on/assess your rooted phone. BS. Sprint has given mixed signals about this. I know there have been internal memos released stating they now will honor rooted phones. I think lazyness is the culprit when a comes to CSRs or techs rejecting for root. I've always taken in my rooted phone and put a stockish rom on it first, when I have a hardware problem (blown speaker, broken screen, etc.)
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They used an application call LogMeIn Rescue. It gives them the ability to remotely view/control a pc, windows or blackberry phone. Its actually a lot easier to do it for a customer more often then trying to walk them through it.
Yes the information displayed in the about phone section is stored in the build.prop.
As for the software; software plays a factor in how the device operates and communicates with the network. Sprint has designed the stock software on their devices to their standards. They know their software and how it works. Now take a custom rom, one that has be frankenstined together. How do you expect a company to properly troubleshoot and diagnose a problem that could very well be related to the customer software?
I totally agree with the laziness part on the Tech Reps, after working with the company for several years, Id have to say most of the reps were less educated or technically minded about the device that they were working with. I could not tell you how many times I would hear customers complain about the Tech Reps.
Going to a hardware issue, Custom software would not break the screen, blow a speaker, or otherwise cause physical damage to the device (with the exception of a battery). So these should have no effect on hardware warranty's or exchanges.

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What happened after the 3 months?
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strive53 said:
What happened after the 3 months?
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Pretty sure he means he has been running it for almost 3 months... and still is...
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blah blah ST sucks, or they'll disconnect you, "air tank" prepaid crap will get you kicked off, use boost mobile, etc.
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Would the steps be identical to that of the fascinate except prior to that you'd have to flash a Verizon prl? I ask because even after the flash was successful, making a call still results in "we're sorry we are currently unable to authentic your phone".
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I'm def interested in this. I've been planning on going to straight talk. If I could take my epic with me that would be awesome!
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Would this be the same Coming from a Vzw on a Dinc2 to St? I know it wouldn't be exactly the same but for the most part would it be? Thanks in advance.
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I'm curious to know what 3G speeds you guys are getting. (I know it varies by location/coverage) but still.
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#1, make sure the Donor Phone can be read, in some way, even if its alternate methods, otherwise you're screwed.
#2, If you're flashing an Epic to any carrier that isn't Sprint, it's BEST to uninstall systemupdates.apk.
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Just wanted to thank justan00b for putting this together. He is truly a helpful community member, with a lot of patience and drive to be contributing to people who need help.
For months, I have sat on my EVO 3D, because I was not able to successfully write the HA, AAA, and the DMU stuff correctly to the phone to get the true 3G speeds. Granted, all Verizon MVNOs are capped to begin with, but using the EVO on 1X was not an option for me. Thanks to justan00b's guide, I will give this a whirl on Saturday and see how it goes...
Thanks again man!
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Depends where I'm at and my signal,but I've gotten download speeds almost 2mbps using speedtest.net app, slowest I'll get is sometimes .50 or .20 mbps down, just depends though. And care to explain on your first tip? What do you mean by can be read, as in can be read in dfs/cdma ws? And what do you mean or else you'll be screwed?
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I'm not sure if Verizon phones are any different, but on other prepaid carriers, the keys are much more difficult to read than others, so say the user following your guide tries it out with a phone that locks up and won't allow you to read the keys, they have a bad investment on their hands. Without the possibility of 1x/3G internet.
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Thanks for the detailed tut. The best so far for flashing to st. Gonna give this a shot once I get my vzw phone, should be here in a week. Will post an update once done. Wonder if you can get higher 3g speeds by using the full throttle tut posted here. Might give that a try when done.
It seems like with most things there are many ways to accomplish something. I just today flashed an EVO 4G over to ST. This is the second one I have done. First time I used a Handsfree Activation method because I did not have a VZ phone to activate an pull the data from. This time around I have a Fascinate and used a similar yet actually much different method then this. Im kicking myself because the first time around I searched like crazy and found the proper MMS settings and APN that got my MMS fully working, and well...did not save the info so now once again Im searching for it...lol. Now I know the HTC and Samsung MMS works differently on ST, but contrary to most peoples belief...the native MMS CAN be fixed and function 100% on the Samsungs. I have seen it personally working and am trying to get in touch with the flasher who set the phone up. If he gives up the secret I will post it here. If he doesnt then Im either going to try and track down the phone I seen working and see if the guy will allow me to take a peek into the settings and backup and pull a copy of the APN....or...lol...Im going to just send the flasher a Sprint Sammy and pay him to flash it. Then I can just pull the info from my own phone. Stay tuned to this thread...I will be posting the fix.
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It seems like with most things there are many ways to accomplish something. I just today flashed an EVO 4G over to ST. This is the second one I have done. First time I used a Handsfree Activation method because I did not have a VZ phone to activate an pull the data from. This time around I have a Fascinate and used a similar yet actually much different method then this. Im kicking myself because the first time around I searched like crazy and found the proper MMS settings and APN that got my MMS fully working, and well...did not save the info so now once again Im searching for it...lol. Now I know the HTC and Samsung MMS works differently on ST, but contrary to most peoples belief...the native MMS CAN be fixed and function 100% on the Samsungs. I have seen it personally working and am trying to get in touch with the flasher who set the phone up. If he gives up the secret I will post it here. If he doesnt then Im either going to try and track down the phone I seen working and see if the guy will allow me to take a peek into the settings and backup and pull a copy of the APN....or...lol...Im going to just send the flasher a Sprint Sammy and pay him to flash it. Then I can just pull the info from my own phone. Stay tuned to this thread...I will be posting the fix.
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When you used the handsfree method did your data work, and if it did can you share the instructions and where you got them from because i dont have a vzw phone to use for this method.

Time to dump it?

Well guys, here I am with major thoughts of dumping my Note 3 and ending my short couple of month love affair with it.
I just feel that this device underachieved for me. My major beef with it is the poor wifi and overall network performance of the phone with no fix in sight. I can't stand the instability of the wifi performance. I also hate the speaker on this thing.
I also am disappointed with the community. I don't know what it is, but this community doesn't seem very active or have big numbers. I understand maybe a lot of people shy away because of the locked bootloader and such, but it just seems like low activity here.
With that being said, not all hope is lost. I still like this phone overall. I got in on the Cyber Monday deal for a $350 Moto X. I am making my decision easy for myself. If I like the Moto X, I am keeping it and dumping my Note 3. If I don't, I will keep my Note 3 for a little while longer.
And I understand that these phones are on opposite sides of the spectrum. But something intrigues me about the Moto X.
Ultimately I know that nobody probably cares. And that's cool, you can simply ignore this thread. But for anyone else, I would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
My major beef with it is the poor wifi and overall network performance of the phone with no fix in sight. I can't stand the instability of the wifi performance.
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I wouldn't put up with that, either. But my N3's WiFi and 4G connections have been excellent. Have you tried exchanging your phone?
I'd love to dump mine also .. having all the same issues in regards to the WiFi and network connectivity. Problem I have, I rooted mine and now I get that B/S "Custom" boot .. I've read through everything up here in regards to getting rid of that boot screen and so far NOTHING has worked. So right now, unless I find a way to hard brick my phone, I'm stuck with this damn thing.
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I'd love to dump mine also .. having all the same issues in regards to the WiFi and network connectivity. Problem I have, I rooted mine and now I get that B/S "Custom" boot .. I've read through everything up here in regards to getting rid of that boot screen and so far NOTHING has worked. So right now, unless I find a way to hard brick my phone, I'm stuck with this damn thing.
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Restore stock or use wanam.
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What ROM are you using? My T-Mobile note 3 using att has excellent 4g LTE coverage but when I had T-Mobile coverage at first it sucked! I'm talking bad!! Barely any data connection if any and dropped a lot of calls. As far as WiFi I get excellent coverage also. Don't give up on your note 3 just yet. Just give up on t mobile!! If you use Chainfire's region unlock app from play store and switch to an att carrier, (like net 10 or Straight talk $45 a month) you'll be good to go.
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I wouldn't put up with that, either. But my N3's WiFi and 4G connections have been excellent. Have you tried exchanging your phone?
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I had the same issues with my previous one. I'm on at&t and I've seen threads about the same issues that I'm having. It seems pretty common.
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I'd love to dump mine also .. having all the same issues in regards to the WiFi and network connectivity. Problem I have, I rooted mine and now I get that B/S "Custom" boot .. I've read through everything up here in regards to getting rid of that boot screen and so far NOTHING has worked. So right now, unless I find a way to hard brick my phone, I'm stuck with this damn thing.
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Why not just sell it and get something else? The Note 3 is still going for decent money on Swappa and most people prefer to buy rooted phones on there.
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What ROM are you using? My T-Mobile note 3 using att has excellent 4g LTE coverage but when I had T-Mobile coverage at first it sucked! I'm talking bad!! Barely any data connection if any and dropped a lot of calls. As far as WiFi I get excellent coverage also. Don't give up on your note 3 just yet. Just give up on t mobile!! If you use Chainfire's region unlock app from play store and switch to an att carrier, (like net 10 or Straight talk $45 a month) you'll be good to go.
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I'm on at&t.
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Restore stock or use wanam.
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Well I would restore stock if it was available, but its not !!!
As for Wanam, I have also tried this .. I have tried everything that has been described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559961 .. nothing worked, I still have the custom start screen.
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Well I would restore stock if it was available, but its not !!!
As for Wanam, I have also tried this .. I have tried everything that has been described in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559961 .. nothing worked, I still have the custom start screen.
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You can restore on mj5.
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You can restore on mj5.
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Can you restore on mj5 after rooting with Kingo? I read you can use Kingos "unroot" then factory reset, but I dunno.
Probably best to use the the already established thread for this this type discussion. ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099

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