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About that replaceable plastic (Sammy) vs unibody (HTC) thing...

First of all I have to say, the Samsung Galaxy S3 looks veeeery good to me.
You want to know why?
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
2. Plastic, it's very sturdy and therefore less damage can happen when it's dropped e.g. to the floor. Drop an iPhone/HTC and get ready to call the service line.
3. Weight, plastic is the way to go if you want a thin and light phone. Some people here sound as if they would like a flipping phone made out of solid osmium (heaviest of all metals)
4. Replaceable components, seriously guys, UNIBODY MY ASS, I want to be able to replace the battery without having to send it to Samsung and wait for the service to fix it. On top of that Unibody doesn't allow you to buy a bigger battery for your phone (though I think the stock 2100 mAh already is good!)
And no SD Card slot like the HTC One X? LOL.
5. Sorry for my english
Those being just some arguments which definately make reasonable why Sammy doesn't choose as same path as HTC/Apple.

Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.

Master05 said:
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
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I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?

The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Talking about similarities, just a couple of days ago I found this article very amusing..

Plastic is a terrible conductor of heat.
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Nice talk.you are a genius.like your points
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edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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Agreed. I personally like the back cover of the Galaxy Nexus. I'm not a fan of high gloss. Some kind of texture would would have been nice.

edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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It's only a bit of plastic on the back that I'm sure you'll be able to buy third party ones.

ciscostud said:
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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You can surely find lots of interesting faceplates and back covers for the SIII, even my Galaxy Ace has tons of awesome looking designs on a design store in an Indian Website(that's in english)

I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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me too.

rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture

i find it amusing that people think samsung doesnt use metal. the screen is bonded to a cast frame presumably aluminum but maybe magnesium on all the phones i have repaired. remove the battery and scrape the black area underneath with a sharp metal object if you dont believe me. the plastic they use is not only tough and fracture resistant but it's pretty much superficial.
now im sure htc has improved their designs but the evo was toy like in construction. thin cheap plastics and the pcb was a thin single layer design and the copper traces could easily seperate from the board. also the one i repaired had cold solder joints and the spring contacts they used in place or cables were falling off the board.
samsung does things that are frustrating from a development point of view but i never agreed with the quality argument.
well i'm looking forward to the s3 for the audio mostly. but i want to see what challenges the hardware offers aosp development. though i like touch wiz i dont expect samsung to support the device for more than 1 or 2 major updates. i have learned my lesson and will only buy the us version if it is the same hardware profile as the international version. and ill only buy an s3 if the bt and other hardware are aosp friendly.

Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Or this. Yours for only $89.

rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.

ph00ny said:
It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
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German cars do have a better quality , I know from experience. But I get your point its how you use the material.
I think the plastic on the back of my galaxy nexus feels great .
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Sim-1 said:
I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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I'm sure they will make a back that's matt just like the hox
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Yep replacement battery all the way!

I'm sort of tired of the design complaints...

... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.

megagodx said:
... More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them.
I, for one, have liked the designs and the build qualities of the Galaxy S II and the Galaxy S III over that of the bland and dull looking iPhone and HTC One X. That's just my personal opinion, but what I don't understand is the constant complaints about the build quality.
iPhone has always been praised for its "premium feel" - but really, what are you getting in actuality? The Cheap glass+steel composition that is a shatter magnet? The plastic body on the Galaxy S series is not only in my opinion, superior, in terms of aesthetics, but it's also so much more durable and managable without any sort of expensive casing to protect these more sensitive "premium" builds.
I even see some of the cons of the Galaxy S lines by some people or tech sites being something as subjective in actuality, as design and build quality. It's just downright annoying and I think people should find more legitimate gripes.
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Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.

IMO, HOX looks way better, albeit a bit skate-board'ish (took a while to find the right word) but I aint buying phones for the looks (like my bro who regrets it with sensation).
Build quality and design are 2 different things btw, and HTC's build quality is derp.. they use fancy materials but there are nuff examples of bad-glued screens, light leaks, yellow spots or w/e with 1x and chipping with 1s and it's uber fancy hyped satellite NASA aluminum.

Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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abhijit1289 said:
Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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What about my friend who broke her HTC Incredible's screen 2 times already? See I can do that too. It goes both ways.

barondebxl said:
Op you're wrong. It's not cause the tech sites have said that they don't like the design that everyone else doesn't, its cause they expected something newer, more original. I like the design of the S3 and already preordered mine, but I would be lying if I say that I didn't expect the design to be more slick like the HOX. Still I'm liking it more everyday but as the most anticipated android device EVER, people were expectating something more original and a phone's looks matters a lot. The HOX has so many issues, horrible battery life, screen flickering, sense crashing and reloading... And yet I still wanna buy that phone just because it is a thing of beauty. I saw it for the first time yesterday and I personally think it is the most beautiful phone ever made HANDS DOWN. If only the S3 had a better looking body, all the people saying that the S3 is a disappointment wouldnt complain as much. But again I like the s3 design more and more but as the flagship Samsung phone you can't knock people for expecting something better looking.
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I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
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Yeah, well say that to my gs2 owning friend whose phone *creaked* after two weeks of usage.
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No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.

megagodx said:
I am not wrong, I'm merely stating my opinion and I made that clear numerous times. You're trying to overshadow my point as invalid to yours or a few others who mirror your sentiment based on some sort of construct that what you feel personally goes. That's sort of the indulgent mind frame we have nowadays.
I could go as far as to say that I'm right and you're wrong based on the same logical thought process you're using.
No phone is indestructible. But you put it up to comparison to the iPhone per se, I'm sure it would have incurred damage far greater and in less the time; it sounds as if your friend is a bit reckless with his gadgets. I've dropped my Galaxy S II various times without a case and at worst, I got a few negligible nicks on the side of the phone, but the screen has never gotten any gashes or cracks.
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You're too angry, take a chill pill. This is what you said ...
"More so because all these big tech blog sites always opine on something as personally preferential as the build quality and design and almost pass it off as a "fact" and then you see other sheeps complaining about the same issues most of the time, based off what they read; simply because most people aren't capable of thinking for themself, and like typical consumers, they just get fed what others tell them...".
what makes you think that everyone else is sheep and it isn't their opinion? Just because most people have the same feeling means their sheeps? And you think you're right about it? If you go to the Galaxy s2 I9100, many users are not satisfied with the new look of the S3 and you would think they should be satisfied since their coming from the Galaxy S2. It proves that theyre not just following what engadget or androidcentral or whatever tech site is saying, they really think it is a disappointment. I see where they coming from. But personally I'm liking it that's why I preordered it and already paid for it. You being mad and saying that everyone is a sheep and following what the tech sites are saying is just silly.

I actually agree somewhat with the OP in that tech blogs do sway peoples opinions even if it's a little. Along with the massive amounts of Hype unseen in any mobile device it's a surprise it's not shot down even more lol.
I personally think it's a freakin beautiful phone. Which is good cause thats all that matters to me.
I really hope this thing does not come with the S4 on T-Mo

The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.

Gnarfsan said:
The Verge is right. Samsung has the resources to make the most unique and exclusive design ever but the SIII is very generic looking. It's not ugly but it is generic. I would not mind carrying it around but they could have done a lot better.
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I couldn't agree more, you're absolutely right. It is like Samsung made a " safe" bet on the design. They definitely could have done better.

I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.

megagodx said:
I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
Again, it goes back to my point, if legitimate users want to have a bone to pick with the form, that's their own personal experiences, legitimized by the fancy of that particular user. We're all abstract with our preferences. To have some blog site slamming a particular device based on perception materialistic reason is still a bad way to present a phone to readers.
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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.

megagodx said:
I would love to know what this "unique" phone looks like. Most encompass the very typical form. What you consider generic, others consider to be justright. Some time too much deviating isn't always a good thing.
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If you see an HTC phone for the first time, even from a distance, you immediately know who made it because they all have some distinct design features. With this phone, I can't think of anything that makes it stand out from the crowd and screams Samsung. You have to check the brand on it to know. It lacks distinct design features which I my self and a lot of reviewers find disappointing. But you may not. Thats how it works.

For me it couldnt look any better basically It's like a big iphone 3gs, no rectangulars, no nasty edges. Its sexy and i'm pretty sure it will lie good in the hand.
And i think high quality plastic is a good choice. It doesnt block signals like most forms of metal, its lightweight, it can be easily colored, it doesnt brake as easily as other materials. Only negative people always bring up is "it feels cheap".
Of course it does matter how something feels to you, but i'd rather have a cheap feeling than signal problems because of full aluminum backs^^

I fully agree with the thread title, since I don't care much about the design although I like the looks of the S3.
The thing that really pisses me off is, that there isn't just one or two threads discussing the design. No, in allmost every thread be it about the display, the cpu, connectivity, sound,... if the people run ot of arguments why their beloved phone <insert name here> is so much better than the S3, they fall back to "but it's so ugly"

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Just look at the thousands of concept renders for phones released each year by artists. With a little imagination and creativity, anything is possible.
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yeah, because the artists actually first off "know ****" about what is actually manufacturable (think of the teardrop shaped iPhone renders) and secondly do the artist never bother to think if that design is actually copyrighted or patented by another company.
as the androidpolice article stated: the design of the galaxy s3 may be only the way it is, because someone allowed apple to actually patent a touchscreen phone design which was already in place before apple first used it and would be a sensible choice to built on on.
to quote the infringement claims by apple:
a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded
the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width
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so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it.

v1rtu4l said:
"to quote the infringement claims by apple:
so you see that not using these attributes in a phone does very much restrict the available designs.
it is not samsungs fault that they wanna play fair now.
it is the fault of the patent institution that apple was able to patent such things in the first place.
others like HTC have more freedom in their design choice because apple does not feel threatened by them. You can bet that apple would have sued HTC to their last dollar, if HTC actually would be threat to apple, but since they are not apple just does not care for the moment.
i personaly like the design of the galaxy s3 and am just withholding because i wanna see some more thorouh reviews of it."
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At last, someone with a good sense !
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Best regards

Apple advised Samsung to build ugly phones
On 6.12.2011 a german tech. news site posted the following article
http://www.chip.de/news/Apple-raet-Samsung-Baut-haessliche-Handys-Tablets_53208546.html
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The headline reads "Apple advises Samsung to build ugly Phones"
It basicly says, that apple send Samsung a letter on how they should design their future phones to avoid being sued over.
When I first read it back then, I thought "WTF!!!".
So it isn't "the S3 was designed by lawyers", but rather "Apple designed the S3"

yeah, the funniest thing is following trademarked feature:
- display coloured icons on the display, when device is on
this is ridiculous!

I will say that the official launch didnt really do the S3 justice for its design. I poked through a gallery yesterday of it and it really is a damn good looking phone. I'm not too concerned with the "feel" of it as I usually throw a slim case on my phones anyway. People said the GS2 felt cheap compared to the HTC Vivid and I didn't feel that. I felt the GS2 was lighter but that doesn't directly relate to a cheap feeling for me. I will most likely be getting the GS3 as my next phone because I've had it with HTC/AT&T locking bootloaders. I feel the AT&T One X is destined for the same failures the Vivid saw for having the bootloaders locked for so long after its release.
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PhoneArena Galaxy SIII Preview - 26 minutes !!

I think this video answers most of the discussions here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1VgsO-LC8&feature=g-u-u

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great video! thanks for sharing.
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
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soraxd said:
anyway, great video, flash performance is amazing
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I think I won't need any third party browser anymore.
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device

ph00ny said:
If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.

the device dosent shows any sign of pebble blue in the whole video and no symptoms of brushed finish too!! nice...

ph00ny said:
If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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He says it in the video too - lol
Fairly annoying but he was honest in the review.
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Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.

It's good to be ambidex ^_^

1 word...
ANNOYING

If you want to be really annoyed, watch their HOX vs iphone test.
Obviously this guy has to learn how to operate a man sized phone.
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Yeah this guy is rearly a hardcore Iphone fanboy, I dont like his reviews and tests cause he is not objective at all. He was trying rearly hard to find something to criticize on and than mention that every minute, he seems very annoyed that this device is better than the Iphone...

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His problem is that he's a lefty and is used to a 3.5" screen.
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im a lefty. i used SGS2 and had no issues.

barondebxl said:
Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
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I agree,
He sounds very condescending at times, lots of "obviously" and "of course". And his tone is terrible. Surely they can find someone with more ability than this dude?
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Killa357 said:
Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!

Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
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I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.

Very annoying. Love the phone. Plastic back is better for radio signal. Drop a plastic backed phone and you will get back a scratched but still very much working phone not like a glass backed device. Very easy to tell an I-Phone fan boy. Could not watch or listen to entire video due to the annoying Fan Boy.
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tolis626 said:
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S

soraxd said:
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
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I do not think that because something else will change with the camera

ph00ny said:
phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
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This was John V or something.
Well,they are a really good site in fact.They may not have all the stuff Anandtech does,nor do they publish everything new instantly like SlashGear,Engagdet etc,but they do it all and do it well(Does that sound somehow...? ).I prefer them for my everyday mobile tech news reading.
EDIT:****,I must have my ears checked.He is Ray.John isn't the fanboy.I confused the voices and thought John was the annoying one.

HTC One Black Scuffs

Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.

Not seen anyone with a black HTC One yet on these forums but if they exist I am sure they will let you know.

There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.

dimgl said:
Can anyone with the HTC One in black confirm that it does not scuff like the paint on the iPhone 5? I currently have an iPhone 5 and it will suck to go to another phone that is painted black.
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paulobrien has one you can ask him.
Or you can ask the reviewer from CNET also.
Andrew Hoyle

Black is not released yet but we have been assured it is anodised. The iPhone5 was a joke arriving with chips in the paintwork out of the box! While it is VERY hard to produce things perfectly and there may be a slight flaw somewhere on the phone, some of the iPhone 5s were shocking.

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There is a short video on YouTube that answers this. I can't post links as I am a noob here but if you search for 'HTC One Anti Scratch' you should find it.
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This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.

rotchcrocket04 said:
and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
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I thought I was the only one. :highfive:

americasteam said:
I thought I was the only one. :highfive:
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Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:

Bunch of crazy people here

rotchcrocket04 said:
This is the video Scootmien was talking about.
http://youtu.be/_EWqPpYVE08
FWIW - I have been using an iPhone 5 since launch day without a single scratch on it (no case or protector). I do however treat my phone considerably better than most. It has never been dropped and is always set down on something soft, never on hard surfaces.
Again, it all depends on how you treat the phone. Under the right conditions, I'm sure the HTC One will scratch as well. Hopefully not as easily as the iPhone though.
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Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.

Cnet.co.uk review got it wrong, it's not painted. It's anodized for sure.
Op, can you change the topic to: .... does not scuff?

dimgl said:
Thanks for the video. And that's okay, I don't mind a scratch here and there as my iPhone has scratches as well. But what really concerns me is CNET.co.uk's review of the HTC One Black where they mention the HTC One is actually painted, not black anodized metal, so it chips even faster than an iPhone 5. That in itself is concerning.
I really want a beautiful Android phone like this one, but unfortunately there are some things that are starting to turn me off, like the buttons that are too pushed in with the phone and the IR blaster being on the left, as well as the 2,300maH battery which would've been great for yesteryear but no so much to today's standards.
It's so hard to find a beautiful phone that performs like you want it and has top of the line specifications. I had the HTC One X and had to return it due to manufacturing defects and other problems with Sense (goddamn I hate Sense).
Sorry about that rant, just wanted to know about the black scuffs as that would be a dealbreaker for me.
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iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.

jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
https://discussions.apple.com/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-19682542-156784/iPhone5WTF.jpg
We are told that the Black one is anodized, but as nobody has a black one yet, we don't know for sure. It will be April before anyone has one I understand.
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While I'm not trying to start a war here, because I don't know this stuff as well as some others, I do know that the iPhone is anodized.
A large part of an anodizing process (and it's overall resistance against scuffs/scratches) comes down to the type of metal and its hardness (tempered vs. non-tempered) along with depth, dye, and the finishing process itself. Anodizing is quite a bit different than just spraying some paint on something and moving along - however, it does have the ability to chip/scuff almost just as easily (depending on the process and materials used).

rotchcrocket04 said:
Lol - same here. My friends think I'm crazy when I grab a napkin at the bar before putting my phone down. :victory:
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that is crazy. :d

jonstatt said:
iPhone 5 is painted or it would not do this
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this guy doesn't understand what anodized means...

"Now, after using the phone for more than a week, I can say it’s surely one of the best phones out there, if not the best. It’s got issues, for example, with the pretty finish chipping off, but I’m been very impressed in other areas like battery life and camera."
this is from one of the reviews. do not trust the video on youtube.

Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.

epicfailguy2 said:
Don't forget the guy in that review clearly states he DID put the one and his keys in the same pockets for a week to get these dents.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go

to be fair i make a point of never putting anything in a pocket that my phone is in.
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but to be fair, you do carry other stuff in your pocket..
within a week is a poor result to be honest.
Silver is the way to go
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I don't. Never did, and the time I went to a show and put my SII in a zippered pocket I got nasty scuffs, when the taking out.
But the pocket with the phone, is always the phone alone...

What if the S5 was metal??

Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.

It does not need metal, but pls not that ugly, even moto g looks better
Samsung is only caring about our money, how to make the most money

I'd go out and say that it looks worse than the S4

Well look at my thread HERE... looks like we may be getting a metal one in May

hamad138 said:
It does not need metal, but pls not that ugly, even moto g looks better
Samsung is only caring about our money, how to make the most money
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Samsung has the most aftermarket accessories out of any company other than Apple.
On ebay you can buy a replacement battery door that suits your needs for less than $5.
I dont know, the black looks pretty good to me.

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Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.
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Waterproof because that's an issue the masses have right? People jumping on the ones who aren't blindly following samsung are equally as annoying.
It should have better material along with a fresh look. It should have a newer version of TW that looks/ feels new and doesn't crush 8+GB of storage. It should focus a little on the sound quality.
The HTC One had a totally revamped design and revamped version of Sense and it only won smartphone of the year. If this phone didn't say Samsung, it would be a huge fail
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seoulbrova said:
Samsung has the most aftermarket accessories out of any company other than Apple.
On ebay you can buy a replacement battery door that suits your needs for less than $5.
I dont know, the black looks pretty good to me.
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The back cover isn't the problem, like you said most are going to use a case. I certainly will buy the Buckdroid and the Otter Box Defender also don't confuse waterproof with water resistant. It's "only" water resitant not water proof.

I don't want metal. Metal = heavier. I would have like a thin bezel though...

I don't mind the plastic at all. Too many people complain about it not being metal. Plastic is lightweight, less prone to scratches or damages when dropped, and you can remove the cover for the battery/SD card, which is always a good thing.

seoulbrova said:
Would people still be complaining?
Seriously, over 90% of the time when I see someone with a phone they have it in a plastic case.
The uproar of the S5 is annoying...if it bothers you that much then get the HTC One which will probably end up in a plastic case.
According to AndroidCentral, the S5 screen is now as bright and good as the Note 3 (which has one of the best screens I've ever used), a better camera, and waterproofing, not to mention theyre still one of the few phones to offer a micro sd slot.
If anything it should have had 3GB ram and started at 32GB instead of 16GB, but in every other instance it looks like a solid device.
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People aren't complaining because of plastic. The problem is the hype created becacuse of rumored UHD screen, 64bit processor, a giant battery and even the deal Sammy made with Google. I don't know if 3gb are really is necessary or not, I never used more than 1.3GB but 32GB of storage would be nice. Maybe it's because of the new rumored Galaxy F, they say the GS5 will be cheaper than the GS4 so it kinda makes sense.

no, the material is no problem for me.
what maters to me is:
1. back cover design. I'm not type of people who like to use colorful case, I like the transparent one so when I use my phone, people will know what phone I'm using. And that design is not work for me. I personally more like pattern of the S4 back cover. It feels more elegant to my eyes. And don't say those faux leather in note 3. I like it almost. So if the S5 use those like in note 3. I'll be more attract to s5 rather than z2.
2. the battery. It's already boosted 200 mAh from the s4. That's great but not enough. I own myself a S4. It's pretty durable when use power saving mode. but that's where I hate it. When in power saving mode. When I move from outdoor to an indoor place. The screen is very2 dark and I almost can't see it. I don't know about this mode in S5, or the stamina mode in sony device. If same as in my S4, then I need bigger battery for my next phone so I can use it in full day without those power saving things.
3. As like many other people in xda discuss it about when it's first implemented. knox things. I hate when samsung finally use it. I know it's just a flag, but I didn't know how the regulation about that knox warranty here in my country. And if that knox used as one of main upgrade (like that knox countainer in S4 upgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.3), obviously we here can't use it. And make the upgrade less.. useful I guess. Since phone performance will not dramatically change because the phone still have same component

tarpon6 said:
I don't want metal. Metal = heavier. I would have like a thin bezel though...
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I totally agree. Plastic is tougher and lighter.

dandroid13 said:
People aren't complaining because of plastic. The problem is the hype created becacuse of rumored UHD screen, 64bit processor, a giant battery and even the deal Sammy made with Google. I don't know if 3gb are really is necessary or not, I never used more than 1.3GB but 32GB of storage would be nice. Maybe it's because of the new rumored Galaxy F, they say the GS5 will be cheaper than the GS4 so it kinda makes sense.
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The only thing is, who put out these rumors? Samsung never hinted at any of these.
If the phone were metal, it would be metal. Samsung has always used a good grade of plastic for their high end devices and I prefer plastic over metal for my phone. The design is not ugly either, to me it is a decent design but it's also an uninspiring design looking at two factors.
1. Samsung claimed that the S5 would have a new design, claiming they will go back to the basics with this design.
2. The design looks like the past offerings. I understand brand identity, but aside from the back and the usb port, the design almost matches the S4 and a smaller version of the Note 3.

its not about metal or plastic , its about the design it self :silly:

yahyoh said:
its not about metal or plastic , its about the design it self :silly:
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But thinking about it, the resulting design is very logical as opposed to the wet dreams of forumers, it's a mix between the S4 and the Note 3 with a few new elements. As logical as it gets. Not very exciting, but probably a rather good design choice usability wise.

Rippley05 said:
Waterproof because that's an issue the masses have right? People jumping on the ones who aren't blindly following samsung are equally as annoying.
It should have better material along with a fresh look. It should have a newer version of TW that looks/ feels new and doesn't crush 8+GB of storage. It should focus a little on the sound quality.
The HTC One had a totally revamped design and revamped version of Sense and it only won smartphone of the year. If this phone didn't say Samsung, it would be a huge fail
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judging by the released shots of the next gen HTC one, it looks nearly identical to this generations.
Waterproof isnt an issue? Do you know how many people get denied service on their phones for "water damage" even though the phones were never dropped in water? I've had it happen to me multiple times merely because steam/rain/humidity turn the sensors on to indicate water damage even though Ive made sure they never got wet.

People can be such hypocrites sometimes, everyone was bashing the iPhone for being the same thing over and over again, then it was samsung and everyone hailed the HTC one, now they are going to release the exact same phone let's hear how they gonna defend that. Problem is its very hard and costly to come out with different designs especially when you're releasing more than one device a year. I don't like the s5 and don't think will buy it
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I don't care about plastic or metal but let's face ever since the s3 samsung has put out extremely fragile phones that are prone to cracking. The s2 was made from plastic but it could take a beating not the s3 or s4. I use to see cracked iPhone 4 screens but since the iPhone 5 I see less cracked iphones and more and more cracked Samsung's.
The Nexus 5 is made from plastic but it has a very nice feel and feels more durable
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If it was metal then when it falls and reach the floor the repair cost will be double at least...
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Metal is overrated.
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