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Well as 99% of you know the SIII has been launched, with a whole host of software features.
What are the chances of us getting some of these features? A couple that appeal to me are the Music Hub (newer less usless version) and the new dongle that mirror to the TV.
It'd be great to get these features.
(Could this be the reason ICS got delayed?)
We gets the hubs for music, movies and the others.
Faceunlock but if u close your eyes and the screen goes off this feature is only for sgs3 and the videofrature too.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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I would like to see the improved camera software for our Note, such as faster shutter speed (current speed annoys me compared to my SGS1 Epic 4G which has a super fast shutter) and 3.3 second between shots.
I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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maybe not aliens.. but gods...
nah, just kiddin
Yes well get all of them....cept that really crappy sIII feature: that 4'8" screen.
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I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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i really want wireless display mirroring too!
hope our NOTE meet the hardware requirement....
We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
What about the Siri clone? You think we will get it?
Well, if we do get it (and im sure eventually in time it will be), the only thing that I'm pretty sure we won't ever get is NFC... (this is after all the International Note version thread), this needs the hardware part... which I'm pretty sure our Note lacks the better part of it as well.
I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
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Yup, that's true:
http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org
It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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Whilst I'm not a fan of threads such as this (prefer waiting), you are likely on the money. With 3 million Notes sold and S3 launch, you don't want to steal the new arrivals thunder!
Nexus S ICS was on Google Employees handsets for ages before publically released as Google needed to get units of Galaxy Nexus shifted.
Any timeframe extension the inhouse devs might have been given to allow for the launch of the S3 (in developing ICS mainstream Samsung build, Note extras and other device specific extras for say S2 for example) can only be a good thing.
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I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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You stole the words right out of my mouth.
I personally feel that most of the features should be able to get ported, especially the new TouchWiz Launcher Nature UX. Its essentially got the ICS stock feel with a Widget tab while allowing transparency.
I am hoping to get the ROM ported with features from the note, mainly SMemo stuff over to the note, that would be a delight.
Good Luck Dev's
I am not really impressed with the SIII, I am not saying it's bad rather it's awesome and I would have wanted it on day one had I not had my GNote. 4.8 is still small and it feels awkward saying that.
Coming to your question, who knows it might all be the ICS Update, if not then in Note II definitely.
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This is what i posted in the main ICS thread & this is what I feel..
I think Galaxy note will get ICS updates inline with Galaxy S2 with the addition of premium suite. Both of them are previous years's model.
Galaxy note 2 & Galaxy S3 will have same feature set.
From business point of view if Galaxy note gets the features then Galaxy note 2 will be only a hardware upgrade. Well that wouldnt create the hype would it ?
Regarding porting to our note our devs will certainly turn the magic wheels....
I am leaning towards the PORT and not a Samsung Supported update due to the same reason of Productization and ensuring that the customer can differentiate between the Note and the SGS III, otherwise the Note will win with the features and screen size, but lacking the Quad Core.
I also feel with a complete ICS build running on the Note it probably won't be that much slower than the GSIII despite dual vs. quad. Heck people said it's the same GPU just overclocked right? As for Note 2 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some new features. Maybe HD SuperAMOLED+? Wasn't the Note the first Samsung phone to have the HD Screen, GLONASS, S-Pen, etc?
As for some of the new features my Droid Charge which is basically just Galaxy S hardware has the newer launcher, widgets, and some of the features from the Galaxy SII. So I think we could see stuff brought to our Note!!
Hey guys i need your help urgently ! !
I am in a big trouble of buying a smartphone.My 2 choices are galaxy s3 and note.
these are the points that i like about each:-
galaxy s3:-
1.Best performance
2.Lots of added features
3.one of the best camera with burst mode too
4.Great battery life
5.WOLFSON
galaxy note:-
1.bigger better screen imo(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
I know that s3's ppi is better but that mere 15ppi doesnt mean anything to me
2.Its by far much better looking than s3
3.spen
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
So here my maib questions are:-
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu?
because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
I am in hurry for gettibg one because in india we have some offer for note,in which samsung gives sennhieser headphone,flip cover,3000(60usd) games totally for free and this offer experies on 31st may.So what to choose?Even the note 2 will be launched in may be september,so is buying note good idea?
so plzzzzzz help meeeeeeee. . ... ...
thankx to all in advance....
Don't get note for now. I think you should get the best Samsung out there aka s3.
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you should simply go for s3 , it beats note on all aspects except the screen size(if you like the bigger screen).
s3 packs the most powerful gpu for a mobile that are released so far.
Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...
Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?
Personally, I'd go for the newer, better spec'd SIII over the Galaxy Note.
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Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?
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Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know
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Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know
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C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...
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Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...
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I'm sorry but I really hate these types of responses. It doesn't offer the OP any real advice either way. He's asking specific questions about performance and quality and answers like this don't tell him anything.
Edit: OP, get the S3 and don't look back. It'll have much better dev support as well, being a flagship device.
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Easy, get the Note now, enjoy that big ass screen. Then get the Note 2 and sell the old one.
I hope the Tmobile SGS Note comes with the S4 processor....
I had the Note and I'm planning to get the SIII. I think if you are a business or artistic kind of guy or use EverNote or have other uses for the wacom pen should be your main reason for getting it.
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu? because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
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You can refer to these benchmarks for now, the Note will be slower, but for real world usage it fast enough to perform any mobile tasks, due to the dualcore Exynos at 1.4ghz. It has the same Mali GPU as the S3, you shouldn't miss out much on the gaming side. I'd say inevitably the S3 will perform faster for gaming, but I don't think will big enough of a difference to matter (besides the typical nerds bragging rights).
Games will still look nicer on the Note big screen. Another advantage with its large screen is if you use onscreen gamepads a lot, you have large area to move your thumbs so the controls seems to register better. It's decent enough that I can play a lot of 'classic' games without needing a physical controller. I think the S3 will be on par too though since its a big screen too.
(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
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Do not worry about screen brightness for either devices, both Note and S3 will be very bright with these AMOLED screens. The Note at 100% brightness is equivalent to staring at the Sun.
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
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I don't have an SIII yet, so I don't know. As for the Note, if you have lots of stuff installed on a non-rooted Stock rom, there will be some lag in animation with touchwiz interface, but if you custom rom and use a lighter launcher, its smooth. It also have ICS now, so that might improve things.
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
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I don't know, I don't have the S3 yet, there are new software features and improvements with the S3. But large screen of the Note is a winner here obviously to me, text will be just a bit bigger, sometimes you don't even need to zoom in. It is possible that the S3 can render webpages faster, but I don't know.
Overall, it will be a hard choice, if depends on how much cheaper you can get a Note over the new S3, if you can save at least $200USD by getting the Note over the S3 than its a good deal. If you enjoy large screen estate go for Note, its easier for reading and watching HD movies on it is fantastic. It has excellent camera, great battery life (2500mAh, ICS as well, and better look (imo). If I was someone who already have a Nexus or Note (international), I would not upgrade to the S3, unless I have money to burn. I will get the S3 though since I always want to try the latest stuff and it has some interesting new software features that I don't think Samsung will port to older models because they want you to buy their latest phones.
Same "dilemma" except I have the Note.....I say BUY the Note USED.....try it then decide. You can't lose too much. I have never bought a new International device. Probably won't with the S3 either.
I love the Note's screen. In fact that is the reason I bought one. I still have a back up SGS2 but will sell that when I get the S3 and use the Note as a back up to our phones. The DAC is what tipped the scales for me. I had an iTouch mounted to my bike and had plugged in my earbuds to it when I went for longs rides. (and short ones) The Captiave, SGS2 and Note relagated my iTouch 4 to permant duty on my nightstand alarm where it inevr gets used as my phones also are my alarm clocks.......Be really nice to have some VooDoo Sound again. (Although VooDoo Louder came in handy on my bike.)
I am HOPING I won't miss the screen size of the Note and the trade offs for the many benefits the S3 has to offer in may other areas are worth it. Such as the ease of pocket carrying ( I LIKE the rounded corners LOL) , the many additional features, The Pen is something I do use and will use more since flashing to official ICS as it is virtually no lag anymore.
The SGS2 screen is too small for me anymore. I am not going back there. I think a slightly smaller screen will work better ergonomically.
I have no issue with using the phone with two hands although ICS now has "one hand mode" for the Note" where the keyboard and dialer are rendered smaller and moves to the left in effect giving on the same size as an S2 or iPhone.
Then the Note 2 may or may not come out if those using Note find the S3 covers all the bases well enough.
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C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/3/2996873/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-accessory-c-pen-allshare-hub
This is one article talking about that pen. I think there is an actual photo of that pen somewhere.
I think we are talking for 2 really nice phones here but if you would ask me, I would choose SGS3 since it has better screen (pixel density and other improvements).
For me if the gs3 supports the pen feature...then its gonna b my next phone
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Guys i tried a lot for convincing myself to go for the s3,but my heart doesnt allow me for that Its still crying for the 5.3 inch hd samoled
So plz tel me how will be the gaming performance on both?
The main reason bothering much is now its the quadcore season so many apps will be made accordingly for the quadcores......So can i still be able to play those highly graphich demanding games at a good fps on note?
Only the processor is the factor that is stopping me from getting galaxy note! !
I will go for GS3. But, I still have a soft corner for Note. I will suggest OP to wait for Note 2.
Here's my reasons -
I suspect (no insider information, purely connecting dots) Note 2 will have Exynos 5 SoC. I think Exynos 5 just went into mass production in Q2, and was never ready for being implemented into SGS3.
We definitely can expect incremental update in Note's screen. So, either it would be HD SAMOLED PLUS or something like a PenTile 1600 x 1000 resolution keeping the aspect ratio same as OG Note.
But the most important factor could be Samsung huge marketing and developer push for S Pen apps.
They now have a $ 4million prize money for Note and Tab apps. Just a month back they had another S Pen app contest.
http://www.smartappchallenge.com/eng/main.do
You could be getting much better Pen apps.
In either case, both phones will have great support and winner in their own respect.
The note has much more of a "tablet-esque" functionalities to it with handwriting recognition and such.
S3 has only standard android handset features plus the newly demoed items which are unrelated to a tablet style larger screen interface.
For me the question you need to be asking is "do i need tablet functionality and screen size more than i need processing/graphics power and the new added features in S3's touchwiz (smartstay, svoice etc)?"
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My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
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Huh? I think the answer is clear which phone you want.
It would be extremely handy to have som release information on the next Note, now. I am considering getting that instead of the SGS 3. I have the SGS 2 and the only thing I miss is screen real estate. And lots of it
Now before I begin, I know there's already a TouchWiz tablet mode in the development forum based off of the the best qualities of the N7000 and the GTab 7.7 (both of which I own), and I've tried it already; it's very exciting development! However, as much as I like this tweak, and as cool as it is (credit given where it's due), wouldn't it be even better if we could simply port a stock Note 10.1 ROM directly to the N7000? I know that the N7000's hardware isn't anywhere near as impressive as the quad-core 2gb beast that the 10.1 is, but the screen resolution of both is the same, and the N7000 is no slouch in the performance department even 1 year on, so maybe it's worth a try?
As I mentioned, I own both the Galaxy Tab 7.7 and the N7000. I love both devices. However, I primarily use the 7.7 as my daily driver, mainly because I prefer the tablet interface of Android vs the phone layout used in the stock Note. Thus, my N7000 has sat on my desk, more often than not, as more of a test bed and frankly as more of a toy to use for playing around with all the ROM's that are out there for it (again, credit where it's due!). I've already played around with all the tablet mode options out there; everything from AOSP/AOKP in tablet mode, to the lovely Paranoid hybrid ROM, and so on. However, even then, not everything is as it should be. The S-Pen functionality is greatly reduced, accessories such as MHL output and USB OTG don't always work, and hardware accelerated video playback is usually spotty. In short, it always seems to come close, but it's never quite a perfect fit; there's always something missing.
By porting the Note 10.1's stock TouchWiz to our Note, perhaps that may bring the best of all worlds: a proper TouchWiz tablet UX, with full S-Pen functionality, and all other stock features working properly as they were designed, not to mention the hovering mini-apps for simple things like accessing the dialer, messaging, S-Planner, etc.
If I could have that kind of experience on my current Note, not only would I be disinclined even to get the Note 2, but I think I might just sell my 7.7 as well!! This, for me, would truly be the best of both worlds, which is exactly what Samsung originally intended for the Note when the débuted it at last year's IFA 2011. Having that now would give the N7000 a whole new lease on life; I'm not about to give up on it yet!
What do you guys think?
I was thinking the same
ME TOO )))
Hmm, good to know I wasn't alone! Now, if only we could get the attention of some interested developers! I'd do it myself if I had the know-how (and the free time!)
Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Please link the touchwiz tablet thread for note
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Here ya go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1777500
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Seriously, the sooner can do this the better! Or teach me how, and I'll do it
What an awesome idea. I'd love to have something like LiquidBlack ROM but able to run S Planner which I love. And if the perfection of NoteCore kernel were included then it would make my Note into the phone it should have been back in November 2011 when I bought it!
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Now, the more visibility this thread can get to developers, the better!
You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
id like it too A fully functioning stable TW tablet ROM.
Sounds cool !
since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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since we got the note 2 and s3 UI and features, i think we have it all now with LRQ update
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Yeah, but the Note 2 and the S3 UI's are still all just PHONE features. The Note and the Note 2 are still just big phones with pens from a UI standpoint. While I'm not knocking that in and of itself (for many folks, retaining the phone UI on a large screen is preferable), I am pointing out that it still qualifies the Note(2) as just a really big phone, not a really small tablet.
All I'm lobbying for here is a proper TouchWiz option for the N7000 to be that really small tablet (with all the functionality and driver support of other TouchWiz builds) instead of a really big phone.
Some people prefer the phone UI, others the tablet UI. I don't want to sacrifice any functionality at all if I want to use a tablet UI out of preference. The same choice should be offered to everyone else too!
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You guys really?
It'll be completely irrelevant to port Note 10.1 ROM to OG Note.
Too small a text to work on, and simply stupid.
Please have a brain before requesting our developers such a dumb request.
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What would be a solution to have a ROM that you can connect in 160 dpi to your monitor with a MHL ?
As far as a I know aosp/aokp does not work, and stock devs managed to lower down to 240 max
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Sounds like a really good idea, I hope some great dev make this possible.
The Note 10.1 has issues with multi-app performance (eg the apps aren't truly running simultaneously). Also, this is limited to only specific apps which can work multi-screen.
I don't really see what the benefit would be here. Plus doesn't it have more in common with the N7100 than the N7000?
Not much benefit for a ton of work which will likely be found useless upstream.
Also lately there have been very few dev projects for the Note 10.1 in general (take a look at their dev subforum)
Are S3 users missing out too much?
New Gallery with 3D views. Ability to drag and drop photos into albums.
Camera
Slow/Fast motion
Best Face
Low light shot
Multi-Windows
Smart Rotation
Popup Note, Popup Browser
Quick Glance
Screen Recorder
[*]S-Pen required features
Air view
Easy Clip
S Note, S Planner, S Voice, Email with hand-writing
Photo Note
Paper Artist
Quick Command
Formula Match
Shape Match
Idea Visualizer
S Pen Keeper
I think there are even more new small features that I didn't put in list. It’s understandable that samsung didn't put those S-Pen features in our S3 however it’s actually still can be done for some of them. But S3 hardware is able to support the other features and Samsung should have put them in official JB ROM to further enhance our experience. Do you think they will ever come to S3 officially?
The new gallery and camera with the slow and fast motions are available, smart rotation and popup browser got ported as well. And paper artist can be installed with no problems.
Do your research before posting.
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The new gallery and camera with the slow and fast motions are available, smart rotation and popup browser got ported as well. And paper artist can be installed with no problems.
Do your research before posting.
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I'm not asking for ports and that's also why I'm posting under general.
nice thread was planning to make one but was 2 lazy thanks.... soon wil b ported here.. we already hav cam, smart rotation, gallery here
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Well the Note 2 was only released a few months after the S3 so you would expect these extra features , there's nothing really "revolutionary" that the Note 2 has that the S3 doesn't,i quite like the gallery in the Note 2 there was a flashable zip doing the rounds but no matter how many times i tried i couldn't get it tio work yet it was working fine when i flashed Dragon ROM (or was it Android Revolution) which had it included already.
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nice thread was planning to make one but was 2 lazy thanks.... soon wil b ported here.. we already hav cam, smart rotation, gallery here
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ya true ...we already have
1. new gallery
2. new camera
3. smart rotation
all ported..
only thing left is multi view
The note 2 gallery´s that i found all have one bug, when set wallpaper from tw give fc
Anyone have a gallery that works 100%?
As soon as I get my device I'm flashing Siyah, then will probably stick to stock, Flash new Camera and gallery and some other Note II stuff.
Either way Phones4u have both phones on display side by side and the Note II has the advantage with software, I just hope Samsung don't be stuck up and decide to bring most of the features to the S3.
If it is about other Samsung devices, and its capabilities which I'd like to have onboard my S3, I would mention 8GB RAM, 1GB Nvidia graphic, and 750GB HDD which I have on my Samsung laptop. It has simcard slot, so can be used as the phone, either.
Guys, RLY? While I can understand that someone would compare 9305 with 9300 because both are phones, calling for Note 2 seems a bit strange...
ups - almost forget to ask that someone should port 5x50W audio output from my Samsung Home Cinema system :laugh:
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If it is about other Samsung devices, and its capabilities which I'd like to have onboard my S3, I would mention 8GB RAM, 1GB Nvidia graphic, and 750GB HDD which I have on my Samsung laptop. It has simcard slot, so can be used as the phone, either.
Guys, RLY? While I can understand that someone would compare 9305 with 9300 because both are phones, calling for Note 2 seems a bit strange...
ups - almost forget to ask that someone should port 5x50W audio output from my Samsung Home Cinema system :laugh:
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Don't confused between hardware and software. Software is flexible while hardware is not. I said no point having s-pen features in s3 but not the other.
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So the note 2 has the same camera assembly as s3? if it is, that is a bummer.
That is what is nice of Android. Everything ported. Devs are awesome!
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Are S3 users missing out too much?
New Gallery with 3D views. Ability to drag and drop photos into albums.
Camera
Slow/Fast motion
Best Face
Low light shot
Multi-Windows
Smart Rotation
Popup Note, Popup Browser
Quick Glance
[*]S-Pen required features
Air view
Easy Clip
S Note, S Planner, Email with hand-writing
Photo Note
Paper Artist
Quick Command
Formula Match
Shape Match
S Pen Keeper
I think there are even more new small features that I didn't put in list. It’s understandable that samsung didn't put those S-Pen features in our S3 however it’s actually still can be done for some of them. But S3 hardware is able to support the top 6 features and Samsung should have put them in official JB ROM to further enhance our experience. Do you think they will ever come to S3 officially?
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Underlined are what ported already. Bolded are what not ported yet. I think what most of us really want from Note 2 is Multi Window. We could care less about S Pen stuffs. I know you're talking about Samsung themselves giving it to us (instead of ports from amazing devs), but don't you remember the old days when Samsung refused to give ICS update to Galaxy S I9000? At the end of that device's life span, Samsung pushed an update giving many Galaxy S2 features like Touchwiz 4.0 including a few others. So, my money is on Samsung giving those features to S3 users. But the real question is when.
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Underlined are what is ported already. Bolded are what not ported yet. I think what most of us really want from Note 2 is Multi Window. We could care less about S Pen stuffs. I know you're talking about Samsung themselves giving it to us (instead of ports from amazing devs), but don't you remember the old days when Samsung refused to give ICS update to Galaxy S I9000? At the end of that device's life span, Samsung pushed an update giving many Galaxy S2 features like Touchwiz 4.0 including a few others. So, my money is on Samsung giving those features to S3 users. But the real question is when.
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For the camera, if I'm not wrong only 1/3 of features is ported. Wasn't S3 too early to get value pack treatment? There should be one more android update. I understand what you mean, we might only get them when near eol.
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People keep saying Smart Rotation is ported, but I can't find it anywhere. Any links please? That seems to be the only useful feature Samsung implemented since Galaxy S1.
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People keep saying Smart Rotation is ported, but I can't find it anywhere. Any links please? That seems to be the only useful feature Samsung implemented since Galaxy S1.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943987
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Why not use this thread as a count of how many features have been ported and which are not.
Add things like Gallery, Camera, Popup Browser etc with a strike-through on them.
To show that those have been ported, and which have not been.
Cheers.
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added. anyone remember any other features being left out?
galen2 said:
The note 2 gallery´s that i found all have one bug, when set wallpaper from tw give fc
Anyone have a gallery that works 100%?
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Same here, Its there an newer version?
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I think I saw an unofficial Cyanogenmod and AOKP, no Paranoid Android yet? That's my personal favorite. I'm not requesting or trying to come off in that way, I'm just very close to purchasing a tablet and I'd like it if I had those options. So you guys know if any ROM like that are being worked on?
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There is only one really custom ROM for Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and it is only for P605 model: Cyanogenmod. That's all, others ROM are based on stocks so I wouldn't expect a huge developer support for this device. :/
Yup. CM looks promising. I hope that it is still around and will make a daily driver, once stock 4.4.2 is mega outdated. Until then i'll stick with that.
Does CM support the stylus in non-Samsung apps with stylus support?
FYI I saw that someone had a "working" CM build on the Tab S 10.5 in their CM11 thread. Tas S 10.5 is exynos and has similar internals to p600..maybe someone can port that over somehow?
Edit: There's a working CM11 port on the tab pro 10.1/12.1 models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1vossH1FM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...pment/cm-11-port-galaxy-tab-pro-10-1-t2850042
Any chance a dev can port these over to the p600? I think the CPU and most of the internals are the same between the tab pro and the note 10.1 2014
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FYI I saw that someone had a "working" CM build on the Tab S 10.5 in their CM11 thread. Tas S 10.5 is exynos and has similar internals to p600..maybe someone can port that over somehow?
Edit: There's a working CM11 port on the tab pro 10.1/12.1 models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo1vossH1FM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...pment/cm-11-port-galaxy-tab-pro-10-1-t2850042
Any chance a dev can port these over to the p600? I think the CPU and most of the internals are the same between the tab pro and the note 10.1 2014
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Damn, all the video i was like "Hey, why is he not demonstrating the pen functionality". Now i feel stupid.
Pazzu510 said:
Damn, all the video i was like "Hey, why is he not demonstrating the pen functionality". Now i feel stupid.
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The only difference is the pen and the extra 1 gb of ram we have on our model I believe (hardware wise). I don't care so much about CM11 right now since L is around the corner. Hopefully after L comes out, someone would port over CM12 or whatever to the P600.
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The only difference is the pen and the extra 1 gb of ram we have on our model I believe (hardware wise). I don't care so much about CM11 right now since L is around the corner. Hopefully after L comes out, someone would port over CM12 or whatever to the P600.
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that is some unhealthy optimism
what I mean is, don't get your hopes up too high or you might be disappointed
I'd love to be proven wrong 'though [AOSP / CM / PA on P600 would be awesome]
r4yN said:
that is some unhealthy optimism
what I mean is, don't get your hopes up too high or you might be disappointed
I'd love to be proven wrong 'though [AOSP / CM / PA on P600 would be awesome]
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Unrealistic..I know lol. Hell I just hope Samsung brings L over officially on this. They will most likely update the Tab S and maybe the Tab Pro..so this should also hopefully get it.
I have my S5 to use for CM12
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Unrealistic..I know lol. Hell I just hope Samsung brings L over officially on this. They will most likely update the Tab S and maybe the Tab Pro..so this should also hopefully get it.
I have my S5 to use for CM12
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Samsung usual M.O. (modus operandii) is to bring out the Galaxy Note 10.1 2015ed... It will have the latest stuff and our 2014 ed will be left standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment...
Anyone remember the Note 10.1 (N800*)?
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Samsung usual M.O. (modus operandii) is to bring out the Galaxy Note 10.1 2015ed... It will have the latest stuff and our 2014 ed will be left standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment...
Anyone remember the Note 10.1 (N800*)?
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The thing is that n8000 was not very good from the start, screen was not god at all, processor was good but not that much, battery was meh, plastic body was cheap as it gets. There is not much to do about the note 2014 though; pro tabs came up this year as the premium option for the tablet line and they are almost the same as our beloved tablet, only with amoled display. Maybe an amoled display instead of normal lcd, maybe 64 processor, and i find it difficult they will improve the pen technology; these are the only things i find possible to improve(apart from touchwiz of course).
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The thing is that n8000 was not very good from the start, screen was not god at all, processor was good but not that much, battery was meh, plastic body was cheap as it gets. There is not much to do about the note 2014 though; pro tabs came up this year as the premium option for the tablet line and they are almost the same as our beloved tablet, only with amoled display. Maybe an amoled display instead of normal lcd, maybe 64 processor, and i find it difficult they will improve the pen technology; these are the only things i find possible to improve(apart from touchwiz of course).
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N8000 was pretty good, yes the screen resolution wasn't super high but the images and video were very good. I get as much battery life out of the N8000 as the P605 and, considering most people get cases, didn't matter much what the body felt like as the leather case felt good anyway...
It could've easily handled the updated Android Samsung release for the P605 but never got anything over ICS (officially)...
Samsung seem to feel it's worth more in profits to release a new tablet, did we need the pro series, than to update existing hardware. Where is the financial advantage of keeping the older stuff up to date?
As for improving the pen technology, they did just that with the Note 4. Has better pressure sensitivity and writing ability than the Note 3. Anything else they'd do is really software improvements.
64 processor and 5gb of RAM would be nice though....
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N8000 was pretty good, yes the screen resolution wasn't super high but the images and video were very good. I get as much battery life out of the N8000 as the P605 and, considering most people get cases, didn't matter much what the body felt like as the leather case felt good anyway...
It could've easily handled the updated Android Samsung release for the P605 but never got anything over ICS (officially)...
Samsung seem to feel it's worth more in profits to release a new tablet, did we need the pro series, than to update existing hardware. Where is the financial advantage of keeping the older stuff up to date?
As for improving the pen technology, they did just that with the Note 4. Has better pressure sensitivity and writing ability than the Note 3. Anything else they'd do is really software improvements.
64 processor and 5gb of RAM would be nice though....
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Hey, with that I completely agree; what i didn't agree on was on the "standing around with its pants around its ankles red with embarrassment" part. Far from the internals which are pretty good on both n8000 and p600, pretty much everything from n8000 externally could have been better and I dont think that is the case with the p600. Sure, you can upgrade the pen, the cpu to 64 bits and change lcd for amoled, but those are bells and whisles for the average user we know it has not much impact for the usability overall(like the comparison you make between n8000 and p605); damn, even if anyone takes a look at those pro tabs it is difficult to differentiate it from ours and they are the premium suite right now(contrast to 2013 like our tab was). My point is, even if Samsung decides to do a new Galaxy Note, which it will because its an allmost 2 year old tab, and with the addons we discussed, we cant possibly end up in embararassment as the n8000 did with all its superfluous flaws; even more, if, as you say, Samsung is interested in business more than its interested in the best and inovative technologies I think it will be the kind of jump galaxy s3 did to s4 and a lot of advertisement; if you dont have it in your hand and examine it a little bit most people wont see the difference.
And, n8010 got 4.4 before my p600 officially, so there is that. I bet they just decided not to use the new Touchwiz because Touchwiz is the less optimized crap and not because the internals coultdn't handle it becuase, as you said, n8000 internals are pretty good.
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I think I saw an unofficial Cyanogenmod and AOKP, no Paranoid Android yet? That's my personal favorite. I'm not requesting or trying to come off in that way, I'm just very close to purchasing a tablet and I'd like it if I had those options. So you guys know if any ROM like that are being worked on?
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Just my opinion: if you're looking for a stock android option I'd go for another tablet. The note is a great product but only if you need and use the stylus. And you will probably lose at least some pen functionality with cm so I'd say it's not worth it.
Yea I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't the tablet for me. I'll just wait a few weeks for Nexus 9 then. Thanks guys.
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CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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It should, and there are many alternatives available to the Samsung apps....
CM11 knows nothing about the pen. But will in-app pen support work, for the handful of apps besides the then missing Samsung ones.
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Pen detection with preasure sensitivity and attachment-detachment detection on the tablet still work under cm, or at least they worked on the n8000 note running cm. With those functions working, everything else is a gimmick. Multiwindow can be done with xposed and roms like omni rom, and I bet it would be a much more responsive multitasking. Omnirom works on my acer a500 for gods sake; now imagine a tablet with tegra 2 running today's Touchwiz. (Its Haloween time and we are supposed to think about ugly things). The only downside, or upside as I see it, are the gestures framework that on Touchwiz works anywhere on your tab; features like selecting anything and exporting it as an image or clicking the pen button and double tapping to open "Action Memo" wouldn't be on CM. Because of this though, pen button actually works according to the app using it. An example is Papyrus that gives you the option to change tools when the pen button is clicked. With this in mind, I would say it is worth it; Will we see it, I am not sure anymore. :crying:
Yea I'm starting to get the feeling this isn't the tablet for me. I'll just wait a few weeks for Nexus 9 then. Thanks guys.
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Still, if you want anything with stock android, samsung is the worst company to buy from.
If you want some recomendations I say the following:
Shield tablet is a nice 8 inch tablet with 64bit processor and a passive stylus technology(It has stylus but it is not as good as Spen).
Surface 3 is a nice and expencive windows tablet if you are into that(Stylus as good as SPen but with the ups and downs from windows; Also $$$$).
Nexus 9 is an expensive but well worth it, gorgeous tablet but with no known pen functionality.(No directstylus 2.0 technology that we know of; but nexus and good speakers).
Please, if anyone have comments on this suggestions let me know. I love to hear about new tablets, functions and if feature's live to their names.