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[INFO] [i9020] CyanogenMod 9 Kangs

Just like king23adrianc's CM7 Kang thread, here's one for CM9 Kangs.
Kangs are unofficial Cyanogen builds built by members of the community. They're not supported by the CM team at all, and in many cases aren't supported by the person who cooked the kang.
Kangs can contain features (cherry picks) that haven't been committed into the official nightlies, so you get some pretty cool cutting-edge features that aren't in the official rom. Sometimes these features get built-in to the official CM roms, sometimes they don't.
If you're not familiar with flashing roms, this probably isn't the place for you. Read up on it a bit, make yourself familiar with what you're doing and ALWAYS make a backup of your rom, in case something goes wrong.
For the latest kangs, start at the end of the thread.
To start, here's a link to the euroskank kangs for CM9:
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/skankwich/?id=crespo

Sweet! Lets get it started..
Here's a CM9 (alpha) kang I just compiled @ 6pm PST 11/29/11.
No Cherry Pick: Download (deleted)
Cherry pick version: Download (deleted)
-Dialer Landscape Mode
-Preferences: initial Preferences Activity, Provider and XML
-v3 RIL: another getDataCallState fix
-Revert "Bug 5003361: No Android Dreams in Settings / Display"

I appreciate those who make them without cherry picks. Thanks a lot
Also don't forget everyone that you need to fix super user after every flash and should also flash gapps everytime for the time being.
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Any chance of an NS4G version?
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xsteven77x said:
I appreciate those who make them without cherry picks. Thanks a lot
Also don't forget everyone that you need to fix super user after every flash and should also flash gapps everytime for the time being.
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What about SU needs fixing each time?

sixstringsg said:
What about SU needs fixing each time?
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I haven't noticed any SU problems with any ICS build.
EDIT: Brenix, nice tease on the launcher preferences. Functional or not I like having it.

tehgeekguy said:
Just like king23adrianc's CM7 Kang thread, here's one for CM9 Kangs.
Kangs are unofficial Cyanogen builds built by members of the community. They're not supported by the CM team at all, and in many cases aren't supported by the person who cooked the kang.
Kangs can contain features (cherry picks) that haven't been committed into the official nightlies, so you get some pretty cool cutting-edge features that aren't in the official rom. Sometimes these features get built-in to the official CM roms, sometimes they don't.
If you're not familiar with flashing roms, this probably isn't the place for you. Read up on it a bit, make yourself familiar with what you're doing and ALWAYS make a backup of your rom, in case something goes wrong.
For the latest kangs, start at the end of the thread.
To start, here's a link to the euroskank kangs for CM9 for the Nexus S (not 4G):
http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/sammich/crespo/
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thank you
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xsteven77x said:
I appreciate those who make them without cherry picks. Thanks a lot
Also don't forget everyone that you need to fix super user after every flash and should also flash gapps everytime for the time being.
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have you updated your superuser app?

irishrally said:
EDIT: Brenix, nice tease on the launcher preferences. Functional or not I like having it.
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I noticed that too.. I believe it came from one of the cherry picks or commits.. not fully there yet..heh its definitely bleeding edge
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brenix said:
I noticed that too.. I believe it came from one of the cherry picks or commits.. not fully there yet..heh its definitely bleeding edge
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thanks for these kangs, i'll try today. Coming from Fitsnugly or Gearhead one, do i need to wipe all ?

kptnk said:
thanks for these kangs, i'll try today. Coming from Fitsnugly or Gearhead one, do i need to wipe all ?
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Usually you won't have to wipe, since it's the same base. It never hurts though.

brenix said:
Sweet! Lets get it started..
Here's a CM9 (alpha) kang I just compiled @ 6pm PST 11/29/11.
No Cherry Pick: Download
Cherry pick version: Download
-Dialer Landscape Mode
-Preferences: initial Preferences Activity, Provider and XML
-v3 RIL: another getDataCallState fix
-Revert "Bug 5003361: No Android Dreams in Settings / Display"
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Every time you reboot it says formatting SD card in the notification bar. Was I glad when I figured out that that message is wrong LOL.

brenix said:
Sweet! Lets get it started..
Here's a CM9 (alpha) kang I just compiled @ 6pm PST 11/29/11.
No Cherry Pick: Download
Cherry pick version: Download
-Dialer Landscape Mode
-Preferences: initial Preferences Activity, Provider and XML
-v3 RIL: another getDataCallState fix
-Revert "Bug 5003361: No Android Dreams in Settings / Display"
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Does anyone have a mirror of the cherry pick ROM? I've tried downloading it four times this morning, and it has failed at around 90% each time
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Thanks for CM9 KANG thread
The most urgent CherryPicks, just my thought (CM7s have these)
- /system/etc/init.d/ for custom scripts
- status bar widget (power control widget)
btw KANG, abbreviation for what?

sixstringsg said:
What about SU needs fixing each time?
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If you click on the actual super user app it will force close until you remove it and download the one from the market. You can use root apps if you dont want to do all that but you can't click the super user app itself.
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Works for me, I always disable notification on install
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If you click on the actual super user app it will force close until you remove it and download the one from the market. You can use root apps if you dont want to do all that but you can't click the super user app itself.
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New version
@fitsnugly: #euroskank #sammich Crespo 11302011-0905 http://goo.gl/31YPz
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Can you guys tell me how is this rom?
I use koushik cm9 11.
Wifi? 3g/2g? mms? calendar sync? data usage? thetering? google talk video?
What else...
Is it smooth? What about cherry picks?
Whats the difference?
Why there is nothing in nexus s android dev forum? (many persons tell this rom is great)
What about the UI? Stock ICS? Launcher? Stock?
Sorry for asking u so many questions but I couldnt find anything
Thanx

what i've noticed about the euroskank builds so far:
CM power button options (screenshot, reboot recovery, ect).
Data usage seems broken, at least with the stock kernel. edit: kernel related, flashed different one and fixed.
I use the latest, seemingly unrleased gapps from http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/gapps-ics-20111128.zip
I delete the Maps.apk from the gapps zip before flashing so I can install latest from market (or else you will be stuck with old version and wont be able to upgrade).
edit: rename or delete superuser.apk in /system/app/ and download from market. the one included in the rom forcecloses. No reboots necessary.

Ns4g???
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I've noticed each kang/release is getting smaller and smaller. I remember we started out at around 175mb.
Anyone know what's going on? Lots of code cleanup, duplicates being deleted maybe?
Just curious....

[Info] ICS KERNEL SOURCE OPENED!!! * Added MIRROR

http://opensource.samsung.com/
YEAH!! Go go go Custom Kernel!!
EDIT :
MIRROR!
http://www.mediafire.com/?y14t9y9j661jmt3
is alright?

I have made a request to Samsung for having N7000 ICS sources.
Did it yesterday got it today.

This is great yes the ics is there so this means we may know why the bug gets triggered
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finally. ... hopefully that bug will be solved

Itching to flash safe roms LOL

It downloads at spectacular 10Kb/s.

chasmodo said:
It downloads at spectacular 10Kb/s.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?y14t9y9j661jmt3
is mirror

sjkoon said:
http://opensource.samsung.com/
YEAH!! Go go go Custom Kernel!!
EDIT :
MIRROR!
http://www.mediafire.com/?y14t9y9j661jmt3
is alright?
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Thanks mate. added in the thread in dev section too if its ok

chasmodo said:
It downloads at spectacular 10Kb/s.
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Downloading at 578KBps at the moment from official site

Great news! I'm downloading it! Hope to see something cool!

Update 3 is out of the source code i guess thats the only one , now hope we can get going on the custom kernels

sjkoon said:
http://www.mediafire.com/?y14t9y9j661jmt3
is mirror
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No problem for me downloading at 416KBps at the moment.

nandihno said:
This is great yes the ics is there so this means we may know why the bug gets triggered
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Wow soo funny.. anyway thanks

Bump
For bringing it on top.
Other threads have been locked.
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So what does it mean for users.
Does it mean that ROMs like CM9 will start supporting everything like S-Pen, FM radio etc.,?
Or does it mean we will see slightly modified versions of stock roms. For example touchwiz removed, but swype there.

tsk1979 said:
So what does it mean for users.
Does it mean that ROMs like CM9 will start supporting everything like S-Pen, FM radio etc.,?
Or does it mean we will see slightly modified versions of stock roms. For example touchwiz removed, but swype there.
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All of above +
Awesome custom kernels from devs.
Not sure about FM Radio though....
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tsk1979 said:
So what does it mean for users.
Does it mean that ROMs like CM9 will start supporting everything like S-Pen, FM radio etc.,?
Or does it mean we will see slightly modified versions of stock roms. For example touchwiz removed, but swype there.
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You are going to see a lot of different Roms once we have several safe custom kerenels.
CM9 will always remain lean and Samsung-free, but there'll be lots of CM9-based hybrid Roms catering for everybody's needs. Also, a lot of TW-based Roms.
I suspect that our Dev will soon start to look like SGS2 one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1058
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1204

Yeahh! Im wainting for speedmod kernel and and update of stunner rom
Enviat des del meu GT-N7000

Arobase40 said:
As suspected, the N7000 ICS kernel is far from different from any i9100 iCS kernels !!!
I made comparison from all i91000 ICS kernels, and there were only slight diffs from "European" (called Open source : GT-I9100_ICS and GT-I9100P_ICS), with Korean Update 3 and Update 4.
The major changes came from i9100 Korean ICS update 5 !!!
This first N7000 ICS kernel is completely different from any previously quoted i9100 ICS kernels, including Korean ICS update 5 !!!
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So does this mean this source is really old or maybe really new?

I hope kernel devs sees this and take into account: best feature of a kernel will be dual-boot mode, like siyah's kernel for SGS2 :X

Which rom to choose after Rocket Rom !

So with leaving Eybee and closing of Rocket Rom all of us Rocket Rom lovers will be orphaned !
which rom you choose to migrate to ? is there any thing better than RR JB v2 ?

Yes, lots. Let's all get over Eybee and move on...

papampi said:
So with leaving Eybee and closing of Rocket Rom all of us Rocket Rom lovers will be orphaned !
which rom you choose to migrate to ? is there any thing better than RR JB v2 ?
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Yes.
Rocket rom v3
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I always dual boot with Paranoid Android. Perhaps I will switch rocket rom to stock touchwiz when samsung release it.

I also agree that lots of roms are better than rocket rom ... one of the big problems of rr was its bad battery life
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ashkan_mc said:
I also agree that lots of roms are better than rocket rom ... one of the big problems of rr was its bad battery life
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can you suggest one of the best you use ?

It depends on your preferences, some of the users like aosp based, cm based or tw based.. you have to try it by yourself for you to know..
IMO, theres a lot of roms good roms out there, Im not a fan of RR but eybee is really a big loss to our community
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Try Alliance Rom

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Try Alliance Rom
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Agree... Try Alliance, The Rom look like AOSP but feature touchwiz
its perfect for me.. The OTA's mod does not make me bored with this ROM

what eyebee did with the leaks was stupendous, i mean there was a huge energy vortex created in the forum, whew !
that kind of energy is rarely even created by stock sammy releases...i like those too...rooting with Philz kernel and a few mods Dr Ketan style
mini tab v3 sounds promising....
i collected rr v 12 ics after many spoke highly of it, i was scared the links would go down .....

Trying Alliance Rom beta 1 (4.1.2 LS7 based)
Let´s see if I like it... Let´s see if it will be as good as RR...

When I heard the news yesterday about eybee leaving and that there would be no RRv3 I was gutted, I ended up flashing TMT 5.0 XXLS7 JB.... I must say, Its excellent and so is the Dev, I used his TW / MIUI version a while back and there was a lot of support and regular fixes / updates.
So, Thats definitely one to look out for, That being said, Now RRv3 is out... Im gonna have to flash it
Best way is to spend some time testing them all, Have a good read of the thread(s) and see whats what. There will be other fantastic ROMs out there.
And whats to say when the dust has settled in a few days / weeks, that eybee wont come back and continue development ??
Never say never guys.

I know why eyebee left. Its because all the tons of thanks and appreciation eyebee received from all the users. Eyebee wanted to retire at his prime like what most celebs and sportsmen do but i think eyebee is the type of person who will always create better things. I dont think its his prime. I wanted him to make his own launcher a distinct one flashable yo even the rooted stock rom. He could have changed the way android is used. But he left. The other possible reason could be the note 2 or the lg nexus . I think eyebee got his hands on the new device or maybe google drained the talent from our community making him their official member.
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Thanks for all your helps !
I will try them !!

Alliance ROM ist pretty sweet for me !
Good Battery, very smooth, OTA Updates.
I Think i stay on Alliance until the next major release / real leak from Samsung

I choose aliance Rom. For now I'm thinking it might just be at least as good as RR.
About eybee... I woudn't , be suprised if suddenly some new forum member would join us and be awesome dev

Everytime i flash new release stock rom i will get bored in 2 days. I always revert back to paranoid cm10. I love the mixture between tablet style, multi dpi, and cobalt theme.
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Coming from RR, I've tried all the major ROM's based on LS7 leak... And the one that I prefer is Ultimate N7000 XXLS7 JellyBean 4.1.2 v4.

Trying Alliance Rom beta 1 (4.1.2 LS7 based) - Result:
tested Alliance Rom for more than a week. Not so smooth. Slow Split screen multitasking (already expected that). Battery problems: partial wakelocks with audio_out2, mediaservice and map apps.
Will switch to rocketRom JB v3 and keep searching.

mundano said:
Coming from RR, I've tried all the major ROM's based on LS7 leak... And the one that I prefer is Ultimate N7000 XXLS7 JellyBean 4.1.2 v4.
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[DT] CM11 roms opinions: Carbon, CyanFox, infected_'s, Pound and Wayland_ACE's

Hi everybody.
There are five main CM11 (CyanogenMod 11) roms for the Samsung Galaxy S2:
Carbon Rom (Myself5)
CyanFox (Christiancs1969)
Wayland_ACE's ROM (Wayland_ACE)
Pound ROM (lion0738)
infected_'s ROM (infected_)
This thread is to talk about own experiences with this roms.
What's OK and/or what's wrong. What recommend you and why.
Regards.
P.S:
The poll is outdated. I considered remove it, but I can't do it. I also considered move the thread to Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum.
If anyone think this thread causes conflicts, be free to report it to moderators. I apologize. :angel:

I tried pound rom it has many features including halo but now im on slimkat due to working art, carbon rom also have a working art and I think it has cm11 as base rom.

I dont think thats a good idea to make a thread like this especialy title"a vs b vs c vs d" this thread is more likely to be whats the best 4.4 rom
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krazy1101 said:
I dont think thats a good idea to make a thread like this especialy title"a vs b vs c vs d" this thread is more likely to be whats the best 4.4 rom
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You're right. I changed it.
Thanks. :good:

I don't undestand one thing, infected ROM and Wayland_ACE ROM, both are based on Cyanogenmod 11 ( AOSP ) right? So why is Infected' running ART for about 2 weeks and Wayland_Ace not?
And another thing, Infected ROM is based on Cyanogenmod 11, so why Cyanogenmoed did not add CM11 to Nightly downloads (I mean they are still working on 10.2 but no one is interested in 4.3.1 anymore, because there is 4.4.2 out there, In my opinion is a waste of time and energy)
I will kindly thank you for your answer.

Best rom? Dude best rom or awesome rom threads are not allowed in xda.. I don't know the mods are still silent... Everybody's taste is different... More over all the roms u comparing are completely different.. Though all cm11

Prashanthme said:
Best rom? Dude best rom or awesome rom threads are not allowed in xda.. I don't know the mods are still silent... Everybody's taste is different... More over all the roms u comparing are completely different.. Though all cm11
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The thread is intended to talk about the roms, as I said in the first post.
I changed the tittle again. Thanks. :good:
I considered remove the poll, but I can't. If anyone thinks the poll and/or the thread causes conflicts, be free to report it to moderators.
I also considered move the thread to Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting forum, but the users can't do it.
I apologize. :angel:

I've been using Cyan-Fox for about a week now. Good battery life and features. Really like it so far.

I've been using Pound rom since it was out and updated with every new version, it's really stable and has nice features. I had a battery drain issue at first but then realized mediascannerservice wakelock was the problem... So I just blocked it with the wakelock blocker setting and Voila! I'm also very tempted by Slim kat, the JB slim roms are great and the fastest I tried before going to Pound rom.

Just wondering if anyone here can tell me if any of the above roms support multi-user in the 'settings' screen. I have kids and I'm really looking to pseudo-corner off my phone (I know the limitations). I'm having real trouble with some of the roms.. and wondering if anyone else has tried/successfully got it working?

wallaceff said:
Just wondering if anyone here can tell me if any of the above roms support multi-user in the 'settings' screen. I have kids and I'm really looking to pseudo-corner off my phone (I know the limitations). I'm having real trouble with some of the roms.. and wondering if anyone else has tried/successfully got it working?
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For certain multiuser will NEVER make it into the standard CM tree for non-tablet devices now that they are a for-profit.

Add CarbonROM by myself5 to the list

Guys is there any cm11 rom with
Display colour mode adjustment settings ie. Dynamic ,movie, natural, etc. I have already tried cyanfox and infected's rom I really didn't like the default colour mode of display on these roms . please help
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ryansmth76 said:
Guys is there any cm11 rom with
Display colour mode adjustment settings ie. Dynamic ,movie, natural, etc. I have already tried cyanfox and infected's rom I really didn't like the default colour mode of display on these roms . please help
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Have you tried Pound Rom yet? if not then try because its got it
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Sorry been away for a month due to exams...
What is ART?
What's the difference between roms that have it and which don't?
Which roms have it?
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I'm on Wayland_ACE's CM11 and all of my issues are with 4.4 at large, not the ROM in particular barring one: is anyone else having issues with flac playback? Apollo & CM11 are choking on files that Apollo & CM10.2 had no problems with.
I'd be curious to hear back from anyone on any of the other CM11 base roms in particular.

try slimkat sabermod by fJ under settings -> advance option -> device -> screen

critikality said:
Have you tried Pound Rom yet? if not then try because its got it
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Thanx can u share the link of that rom pls
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ryansmth76 said:
Thanx can u share the link of that rom pls
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Here is the thread of PoundRom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535113
All the links to files needed is right there on the 1st page

aceian said:
Sorry been away for a month due to exams...
What is ART?
What's the difference between roms that have it and which don't?
Which roms have it?
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1. ART is an alternative runtime to Dalvik.. For rest of the info, google.
2. Google
3. CarbonROM and CM11 have it working I think..

Leaked 4.4.2 ROM for European GS4

Do you think this ROM works in our ATT GS4?.
And what steps are needed if it does?.
Thank you.
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Its for the I9505, there is a good chance it could be ported over to work for us.
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Maybe yes, butbis necessary to change the modem. I think we need to wait.
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Yep, I suspect in 24-48 hours you'll see flashable zips to load if you are lucky enough to have CWM/TWRP.

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Yep, I suspect in 24-48 hours you'll see flashable zips to load if you are lucky enough to have CWM/TWRP.
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And it would be REALLY great if they were just developer bases, not these full, all out themed and screwed with ROMs.... we need more developer base ROMs being posted and distributed to the masses just being rooted, debloated, deodexed, zip-aligned, init.d support, and a few other tweaks!
Here's the link to SAMMobile's post about the leak:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/10...-kitkat-test-firmware-for-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505/

KryptosXLayer2 said:
And it would be REALLY great if they were just developer bases, not these full, all out themed and screwed with ROMs.... we need more developer base ROMs being posted and distributed to the masses just being rooted, debloated, deodexed, zip-aligned, init.d support, and a few other tweaks!
Here's the link to SAMMobile's post about the leak:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/10...-kitkat-test-firmware-for-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505/
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Seeing how you have mentioned this, I am taken Vision X exactly to the stock only route. It is getting to be a royal pain in the butt to theme these quick releases over and over...
Vision X is fixing to be a lite tweaked stock rom....
and on this KitKat 4.4, finishing the build right now.....

TheAxman said:
Seeing how you have mentioned this, I am taken Vision X exactly to the stock only route. It is getting to be a royal pain in the butt to theme these quick releases over and over...
Vision X is fixing to be a lite tweaked stock rom....
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and THANK YOU for doing so! Leave the theming to the individual, keep it light and stock, and you'll have yourself a winner for sure! All the mods in the world don't mean crap if it keeps randomly rebooting, FC'ing apps without any explanation, and getting bogged down for no reason....

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and THANK YOU for doing so! Leave the theming to the individual, keep it light and stock, and you'll have yourself a winner for sure! All the mods in the world don't mean crap if it keeps randomly rebooting, FC'ing apps without any explanation, and getting bogged down for no reason....
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Let me ask, is there a demand for the stock over the themed? Because, when I build my roms, I run my stock version, and build the themed for the people...so if there is a demand, I sure would go that route....

TheAxman said:
Let me ask, is there a demand for the stock over the themed? Because, when I build my roms, I run my stock version, and build the themed for the people...so if there is a demand, I sure would go that route....
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Honestly after seeing how well Goldeneye and SHOstock have gone over here....stock, tweaked is where it's at now days. I know Venom makes his builds but most like the stock look and will use aroma type theme somewhere else. I know themes and png hunting was a pain for me when I made mine. Just wasn't worth it ha

TheAxman said:
Let me ask, is there a demand for the stock over the themed? Because, when I build my roms, I run my stock version, and build the themed for the people...so if there is a demand, I sure would go that route....
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I've seen some demand and even wondered why stock bases weren't being made. Stock base means you can focus on debugging the ROM and not themes and if you're like me you use xposed and other things to customize everything anyways. If anything you could still make the themed files a flashable add on or something.
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TheAxman said:
Let me ask, is there a demand for the stock over the themed? Because, when I build my roms, I run my stock version, and build the themed for the people...so if there is a demand, I sure would go that route....
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Don't let me dictate what should or shouldn't be done, everything I'm suggesting are just my personal opinions, but I think developers bases are the best things about TouchWiz, and use those over all the crazy themed / modded ROMs any day! When you do too much to a ROM, there's always going to be problems, and the number of posts on a ROM thread gets to be so long not with people stopping by to say "thanks," but to say "this is broken, why and what do I need to do to fix it?" Again, just my two pennies!

Thank you everyone, I have now the information I need, Vision is going strictly stock. I will get bombed at first, but, it will die down, and it makes for a more stable, clean, crisp, and faster rom. So, let me start with this 4.4 KitKat....it is going to be pure stock here in a few....
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KryptosXLayer2 said:
Don't let me dictate what should or shouldn't be done, everything I'm suggesting are just my personal opinions, but I think developers bases are the best things about TouchWiz, and use those over all the crazy themed / modded ROMs any day! When you do too much to a ROM, there's always going to be problems, and the number of posts on a ROM thread gets to be so long not with people stopping by to say "thanks," but to say "this is broken, why and what do I need to do to fix it?" Again, just my two pennies!
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And your opinion is valuable to me. So thanks....

TheAxman said:
Thank you everyone, I have now the information I need, Vision is going strictly stock. I will get bombed at first, but, it will die down, and it makes for a more stable, clean, crisp, and faster rom. So, let me start with this 4.4 KitKat....it is going to be pure stock here in a few....
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I'm sure I don't need to tell you this, but it really doesn't matter what people think, only what they do, and if you drop this new 4.4.2 leak as a stock base, I'll be the first one to support it! Good luck, looking forward to it!

Thanks a lot for your answers, I can't believe my Samsung gs4 is the only android device of all of them without the latest android version, so much for the next big thing is here , lol
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With the xposed framework and modules, no need for you to do theming. I've noticed that the i9505 builds come out to fast, I don't know how you could keep updating so often. I'm definitely looking forward to TW.
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TheAxman said:
Let me ask, is there a demand for the stock over the themed? Because, when I build my roms, I run my stock version, and build the themed for the people...so if there is a demand, I sure would go that route....
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I would love if you can run the domination aosp like theme for tw in the international forum...
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