so going to alaska to work for 3 months with my dad and brother. Brother says he cannot use his HTC HD2 up there with T-mobiles network so they will allow us to get unlock codes for them and then we will use AT&T's Unlimited talk and text but we would like to see if there is a way to use the Wifi on our phones to surf the web on either browsers. We would be doing small things like checking our email and bank accounts.
Any help would be appricatied
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so going to alaska to work for 3 months with my dad and brother. Brother says he cannot use his HTC HD2 up there with T-mobiles network so they will allow us to get unlock codes for them and then we will use AT&T's Unlimited talk and text but we would like to see if there is a way to use the Wifi on our phones to surf the web on either browsers. We would be doing small things like checking our email and bank accounts.
Any help would be appricatied
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Absolutely, as long as you're within range of a wifi network that you have access to (i.e. one at your home/office or a public access point like starbucks, stc). You don't have to have a data plan to use the wifi, if that's what you're wondering
Another thing to remember if you have a nationwide plan with TMO using other towers is usually not a problem.
At home I use an AT&T tower about 30% of the time, I live in the boonies , so a nationwide plan has no roaming charges no matter who's tower you are using ...
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Another thing to remember if you have a nationwide plan with TMO using other towers is usually not a problem.
At home I use an AT&T tower about 30% of the time, I live in the boonies , so a nationwide plan has no roaming charges no matter who's tower you are using ...
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haha I wish that it would even get a bit of service. Brother is already there and he says he can't even make a call without losing service. T-Mobile said they will suspend service for 3 months or how ever long it takes and will add it to our 2 year contract.
And so he trys using Wifi which the building he stays in has and when he goes into opera or internet explorer he gets an error, trying to find the error from him and will post. Does anybody know if their is settings that need to be changed. He is checking this by turning off the phone radio and only connecting to wifi. He does not want to be charged extra by AT&T, thanks for your help.
we do have custom roms on our HD2's. FYI
EDIT:Error for Opera Could not locate remote server
You tried to access the address http://www.htc.com/ which is currrently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
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haha I wish that it would even get a bit of service. Brother is already there and he says he can't even make a call without losing service. T-Mobile said they will suspend service for 3 months or how ever long it takes and will add it to our 2 year contract.
And so he trys using Wifi which the building he stays in has and when he goes into opera or internet explorer he gets an error, trying to find the error from him and will post. Does anybody know if their is settings that need to be changed. He is checking this by turning off the phone radio and only connecting to wifi. He does not want to be charged extra by AT&T, thanks for your help.
we do have custom roms on our HD2's. FYI
EDIT:Error for Opera Could not locate remote server
You tried to access the address http://www.htc.com/ which is currrently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.
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Sounds like the phone is not getting everything it needs from the access point, some type of misconfiguration, needs to make sure he is getting and IP address , gateway and DNS servers .... should browse over wifi without using the phone radio with no problem, do it all the time at home ...
But if you are just going to be web browsing, turning off the phone radio does save some battery ...
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Sounds like the phone is not getting everything it needs from the access point, some type of misconfiguration, needs to make sure he is getting and IP address , gateway and DNS servers .... should browse over wifi without using the phone radio with no problem, do it all the time at home ...
But if you are just going to be web browsing, turning off the phone radio does save some battery ...
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So I basically found out that the network adapters were set to manual config and I should set them to automatic. Which I did and was able to connect to recieve my mail and go on the web via wifi with radio turned off but this is at my home which is my belkin.
I then tried calling him and having him set it up (he's not so tech savy) and he was connected to linksys and it still gave him the errors, He is going to the office of the company he works for to see if he can get the password for the other wifi network that is on the list. He sees people on their laptops browsing internet. So maybe i'll just buy a little Netbook for going up there.
Thanks for all your help you guys.
Hey, I was hoping I could get some help with this. I must be doing something wrong because I've spent a ridiculous amount of time on this project and have nothing to show for it.
I want to run a mobile hotspot on my phone, but not nearly enough to justify paying Verizon an extra $30/month for tethering. I'd only use it a few times a month and wouldn't push a lot of data thru, plus I'm paying them for an "unlimited" data plan - I won't get into that, you know where I'm coming from. I know they probably won't do anything about it since I'm using it so little, but I want to add an extra layer of security via an SSH tunnel or a VPN. I'm sure they just have to run a very basic report on their system to catch somebody who's tethering, and who knows when some manager will tell them to run it on every user vs just the high bandwidth ones? They could force me onto a more expensive plan, disable my account, throttle my connection, or just block any port an Android phone doesn't normally use, and they could do all that automatically pretty easily. If all my tethering data is encrypted they'd have to do some actual work to prove I'm tethering and probably won't think it's worth their time.
I installed OpenSSH on my home PC, forwarded some ports, and put the SSHTunnel app on my phone and it works great. It seamlessly moves all traffic over my SSH tunnel, except for the mobile hotspot. Which was kind of the point of the whole exercise! I looked all over the place but could not find a way to resolve this.
Next I looked at setting up a VPN so I loaded TomatoVPN on my router. The default VPN (OpenVPN) option for that firmware is IPSec with a CA certificate, so I went about setting that up. Apparently the default Android VPN client doesn't work well with IPSec because I can't get it to work - it keeps prompting me for a username and password, but it won't accept my router's admin credentials. None of the tutorials mention that prompt and I can't get around it. I messed around with an IPSec PSK VPN but couldn't get Android to connect to that either.
I looked into PPTP a bit but they say it's not supported by Linksys or OpenWRT, and from my experience Tomato doesn't appear to work with it either. I was going to put a PPTP server on my PC but saw somewhere that many routers can't forward PPTP requests from a WAN into the LAN.
So I went back to the IPSec approach, figuring the problem is with the Android client. I tried putting OpenVPN on my phone, but got stuck where I have to register a tun.ko file using the terminal. I don't even know if I found the right tun.ko. Then I realized I was trying to install an app to configure an app that installs another app and maybe I wasn't going about this the right way.
Does anybody have any advice? How should I approach this?
Here's what I'm using
Phone: Rooted HTC Thunderbolt
Carrier: Verizon
Ugh, looks like Verizon is 1 step ahead of me:
jbenisek.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/android-2-1-and-2-2-vpn-pptp-over-verizon/
Well, that sucks.
Anyone agree that its safe to assume if I setup my own private vpn at home I can vpn through that as an encrypted session which will stop att from snooping my data, then in turn if I vpn first then run a hotspot they'd be none the wiser?
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Anyone agree that its safe to assume if I setup my own private vpn at home I can vpn through that as an encrypted session which will stop att from snooping my data, then in turn if I vpn first then run a hotspot they'd be none the wiser?
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I would say a resounding NO. They don't care if your data is encrypted or not, VPN will do absolutely nothing to mask the amount of packet data your device is sending/receiving. You most likely don't have unlimited data (if you did before) and will probably be charged per gigabyte if you go over your monthly allowance.
From my understanding, carriers really cant stop you from tethering without a "tethering plan" once your device is rooted. I believe that's why most carriers got rid of unlimited data and moved to the tiered data plans. If you happen to somehow still have unlimited data and generate a lot of bandwidth, once they realize that your using an absurd amount of data without a tethering plan, they will hit you hard with overage charges. I think Verizon charges per kilobyte, not sure about AT&T.
I still have unlimited LTE data with AT&T but know if I hit 5GB in a month they throttle the hell out of me since I've hit it before. The reason I ask is if/when I'd ever use it then it would be more for a light connection like say if the GF wants to use the ipad in the car on a road trip. Or if I get some on call issue for work where I need a connection for my laptop on the go but not as a replacement for any large data transfers.
I just thought part of how the carriers tell that people are tethering would be say if you have an android phone and they start to notice traffic from your device to say Windows Update or the ITunes store and hence the VPN encryption if used day to day would mask any calls later that would be tethering related.
They can't tell if you're tethering plain and simple.
Your phone is sending and receiving the packets so thats all they see, if an app or your phone broadcasts those packets it doesn't matter as your phone is the connection point.
At the end of the day your phone is asking to go to youtube.com if it gives youtube to your iPad all you carrier see is that your phone wants youtube, not why.
The safest way to tether is to always use a VPN on the client that your tethered to your hotspot with. There are some great super cheap VPNs out there that have great bandwidth and good security.
Carriers can definitely tell if you're tethering - this isn't rocket science when you're using packet capturing tools. If you're constantly going to websites with a desktop browser they can see from the browser stats that it's a desktop vs mobile.
The other method is perhaps capturing the mac address off the packet isn't from a mobile-branded device. Since the phone hotspot is NAT'ing all the traffic from your own little private lan to the outside public addressing it *should* only contain the phone's IP and MAC, but depending on the packets it could also contain information from a device within the private lan (mac addresses). I have never tested this but in theory it's possible.
It's one thing to tether a tablet or another phone, most likely seems you would probably not get caught doing that.. but still possible. Tethering your desktop/laptop.. yea you'll get caught.
Like I said, use a VPN and you most likely won't be caught.
I think no need to. ived been tethering since 2010 using rooted phone(or non rooted using foxfi) and my 3gb data plan limit is the same. no notice from att that they detected that I am tethering and sometimes I over 2gb so I pay extra 20 bucks though
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Yes so I have changed cell phones from an LG K425 piece of garbage to a Motorola Razer 2 phone but now I am getting notices that I have gone over my 10 gigs a month hot spot which I haven't EVER gotten in the past almost 2 years or more of service. Guessing the Razer 2 has somehow reported this usage whereas the old LG didn't? Any suggestions or comments about what to do about this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hello.
I have a rooted Chinese dual SIM phone. I've been tethering to my laptop using my phone networks unlimited phone data plan for the past couple of years but finally they've cut me off for cheating.
I've been googling how to get round the tethering detection solid for 24 hours now with no definitive answer. Almost all the responses on the search relate to either people in America having their tethering options removed (not me) or people who think all they have to do is switch their browsers user-agent.
Obviously any windows 7 laptop runs dozens of services that use the internet, even if its just checking for updates through the day, all of which can rightly be flagged up as tethering traffic.
I'm quite poor and don't want to spend more than I currently do for the internet, I use about 10GB a month just now with hundreds of calls and texts free for £12 (Giffgaff). I have another secret Giffgaff sim that isn't activated yet, the network coverage here is pretty good compared to the rest so I'm keen to stay with them.
I've read a lot about VPN's but tbh I don't trust them, I can't see why a network wouldnt be able to detect that straight away? Am I wrong there?
The ideal solution for me would be an app on the phone that routes all traffic through the device, so that everything they see looks as though it has come from my phone. Setting up the phone as a VPN server would work I think, then connect the computer to it when I need it, I've no idea where to start though.
You'd think this would be a problem with a common, working solution, given how useful it is. Sadly Google is clueless on this one.
VPN data should be encrypted so they cannot see what's in it. The only problem you have is trust/security. Do you trust the VPN server to handle your data safely.
Next solution would be to set your home PC as a VPN server. That way your data is your data. But that does mean leaving your PC on when you want to tether.
Data flow:
Laptop ===> Phone ===> ~~Mobile Internet~~ ===> Home PC -----> ~~Home Broadband~~ -----> To the internet
===> VPN secured
-----> Regular transmission
Well, I would suggest something like EasyTether, it's a USB tether from your phone/tablet to PC /Mac/Linux. But what exactly are you using to tether (not phone, as in app or setting)?
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How to bypass hotspot Throttle Confirmed working. Update 12/19/2017
For anyone wanting to use Unlimited data on a PC or Laptop "because we the people shall take BACK control of net Neutrality by Force"
1. Download your favorite VPN. Make sure it has a RELIABLE network Lock. (Vypevpn, ExpressVPN seem to work)
2. Go to regedit, and change default TTL to 65. (google this)
3. Disable IPV6 on wifi adaptor.
4. Reboot PC.
5. Reset hotspot, reconnect, then enjoy "true unlimited" on America's Largest throttled network.
For those that have a rooted Android tablet or other device: (vpn isn't required.)
1. Change TTL to 65
2. Disable IPv6 on lan0 interface (most devices).
Side note: You must setup network lock in VPN and have it enabled at all times, and you must not use any data/internet without vpn otherwise Verizon may detect the connected PC as tethering. If this happens, disable/re-enable wifi adapter or hotspot and retry. You may need to reset hotspot after install and setup of VPN. You can reset either the hotspot or the adaptor both seem to work.
If this has worked for you please consider liking this, and sharing it. Post any questions in the thread and Ill assist.
It seems you have to have all these going, as Verizon is using a variety of DPI, to detect tethering. They are inspecting TTL hops, sniffing packets, as well as checking browser headers and ip's being accessed. This is why these methods of hiding tether usage is required. Verizon is also throttling Instagram, and a few other non video streaming sites i have discovered.
Now to add, I recommend if you are actually gaming, and VPN performance is bad, feel free to disconnect the vpn and make sure the internet is set as metered connection in Win 10. Although the Throttle will kick in, your latency will be low and your gaming will likely be better, as gaming typically little bandwidth. If you are downloading huge patches, torrenting, netflix etc. then use the throttle bypass method.
I will post a youtube video soon on how to bypass. It seems any VPN that has a fallback network lock works fine.
*Verizon has been confirmed to block: Samsung Cloud
*Verizon has been confirmed to throttle: Netflix, Youtube, Instagram.
Update. I figured out how to bypass it. They are tracking hotspot by TTL. I will upload a guide on how to fix it to bypass TTL.
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Update. I figured out how to bypass it. They are tracking hotspot by TTL. I will upload a guide on how to fix it to bypass TTL.
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I don't think they only track it using TTL, though I wish it were that easy. They utilize multiple methods for detection, including a type of deep packet analysis. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on this though, as in, where you planned on taking this in order to bypass TTL detection. I've been working on a little project myself, though it's still a cluster of theoretical data I have compiled and a few scripts written in hopes of bypassing throttles.
Hi, it seems like the 600k throttling is intermittent. I changed my ttl to 65 on pc and it seemed to have worked, now I'm slowed again. I also noticed that the throttling only happens after a couple of minutes after a device connects to my hotspot, not immediately. I saw this when streaming YouTube on a tablet. I am thinking it's not at the device level, and there is something other than ttl or even packet inspection.
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Hi, it seems like the 600k throttling is intermittent. I changed my ttl to 65 on pc and it seemed to have worked, now I'm slowed again. I also noticed that the throttling only happens after a couple of minutes after a device connects to my hotspot, not immediately. I saw this when streaming YouTube on a tablet. I am thinking it's not at the device level, and there is something other than ttl or even packet inspection.
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No, that's the deep packet inspection doing it's job. Do you happen to be rooted? If so, you can add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to your build.prop, which may or may not help. If I recall, you may be able to add it using adb without root as well.
There is another way that it may work, but it's far more complex. It requires you running an ssh server and a vpn, I haven't tinkered with it myself, but I'm familiar with networking and quite certain this would be the way to go if you're up to the challenge. I recall a few people on reddit discussing it (maybe in the r/hacking sub?), if you wanted to look around on how to accomplish this. I'm on mobile or I'd find some links for ya, but depending on how tech savvy you are, it's not too complicated (though it's much easier to accomplish on a linux distro).
Good luck and let me know if you figure anything out!
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No, that's the deep packet inspection doing it's job. Do you happen to be rooted? If so, you can add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to your build.prop, which may or may not help. If I recall, you may be able to add it using adb without root as well.
There is another way that it may work, but it's far more complex. It requires you running an ssh server and a vpn, I haven't tinkered with it myself, but I'm familiar with networking and quite certain this would be the way to go if you're up to the challenge. I recall a few people on reddit discussing it (maybe in the r/hacking sub?), if you wanted to look around on how to accomplish this. I'm on mobile or I'd find some links for ya, but depending on how tech savvy you are, it's not too complicated (though it's much easier to accomplish on a linux distro).
Good luck and let me know if you figure anything out!
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Im interested in this as well. It has killed my internet usage at home. Please update us with a way to bypass this.
Ok guys so far I have a temporary working solution on Verizon wireless. I am unsure how long it will last. I am running airvpn over port 2048 udp no ssl or shh. With a ttl of 65 in windows Registry. It seems almost as if they are checking if multiple devices are hitting the same IP. I have been running YouTube full 1080 on throttled hotspot for an hour. It seems that they are doing deep packet inspection on their end because my device is not rooted and unlocked stock s8+.
If anyone can try the same setup (make sure your VPN is running on a different port,) I will probably get a router to host VPN on. Even better would be if it were possible to funnel all VPN traffic including hotspot through the same tunnel on Android.
Edit confirmed working hotspot unthrottled on port 2018.
Time to get the word out. I'm going to post a guide soon.
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If anyone can try the same setup (make sure your VPN is running on a different port,) I will probably get a router to host VPN on. Even better would be if it were possible to funnel all VPN traffic including hotspot through the same tunnel on Android.
Edit confirmed working hotspot unthrottled on port 2018.
Time to get the word out. I'm going to post a guide soon.
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Great. A guide would be perfect with this because I'm not sure how you managed all of that. That and the only PC I have is a work PC. Let us know when the guide is up.
I don't think you can bypass our throttle lol. I've tried a few things myself.
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If anyone can try the same setup (make sure your VPN is running on a different port,) I will probably get a router to host VPN on. Even better would be if it were possible to funnel all VPN traffic including hotspot through the same tunnel on Android.
Edit confirmed working hotspot unthrottled on port 2018.
Time to get the word out. I'm going to post a guide soon.
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I wonder if this method works for tmobile.
I'm not sure about hotspot, the TTL hack seems to be hit or miss, but I have been bypassing throttle on tether with FoxFi. I know, I know, people have said it doesn't work on Nougat, well I tried it anyway and have unthrottled speeds, using QH3 unlocked stock firmware and Windows 10.
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I wonder if this method works for tmobile.
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Check the xda T-Mobile forum, I believe they have an unthrottled method already, one of the easier ones I've seen.
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I'm not sure about hotspot, the TTL hack seems to be hit or miss, but I have been bypassing throttle on tether with FoxFi. I know, I know, people have said it doesn't work on Nougat, well I tried it anyway and have unthrottled speeds, using QH3 unlocked stock firmware and Windows 10.
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Check the xda T-Mobile forum, I believe they have an unthrottled method already, one of the easier ones I've seen.
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I wasn't able to locate it. Do you have a link? Is it on the S8+ forum or another phone?
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I wasn't able to locate it. Do you have a link? Is it on the S8+ forum or another phone?
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At work, so can't look right now, but Google "tmobile truly unlimited data tether xda".
Should be on the first page.
Okay, so I found a way to bypass the throttle (sort of) on my home PC. I purchased samsung dex, and connected my monitor and sound system. Now i can Netflix, surf, trade and download all I want. Not a total solution, but for now, its pretty usable (except for gaming). F U Verizon and all USA carriers.
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Okay, so I found a way to bypass the throttle (sort of) on my home PC. I purchased samsung dex, and connected my monitor and sound system. Now i can Netflix, surf, trade and download all I want. Not a total solution, but for now, its pretty usable (except for gaming). F U Verizon and all USA carriers.
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Any details forthcoming?
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Any details forthcoming?
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Those are the details, though I'm not sure how or why the Dex would help bypass the data usage.
Interesting...
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Those are the details, though I'm not sure how or why the Dex would help bypass the data usage.
Interesting...
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Because, its not tethering. Its the actual phone running the Monitor, keyboard, mouse and speakers. The new generation of Computing baby.
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I figured it out...sorta. USB tether via PDANET registered so not crippled to PC. That connection is 'shared' with the normal LAN. That cable is moved to the 'Internet' port on my router so it can feed other devices. So the PC is the middleman here so to speak.
** No throttling!
Cons...
**PC must be running
** charging only from USB cable so unable to use my QuickCharger 3.0
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I figured it out...sorta. USB tether via PDANET registered so not crippled to PC. That connection is 'shared' with the normal LAN. That cable is moved to the 'Internet' port on my router so it can feed other devices. So the PC is the middleman here so to speak.
** No throttling!
Cons...
**PC must be running
** charging only from USB cable so unable to use my QuickCharger 3.0
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Can you explain this to someone who is computer literate, but completely phone/networking illiterate? For example, I'm not sure what you mean by "via PDANET registered." I've never tethered before either, but I've seen that as an option when I plug USB into my computer, so I think I can figure that out at least.
I'm stuck in a hotel for a month for training for my work and the hotel internet is awful (only .2 down) so I decided to pay up for Verizon's unlimited data plan and hotspot it, but now I've hit the ridiculous 600k throttle.
For the record, I have with me my laptop running Windows 10, and my phone is a Samsung Galaxy S6 (purchased at a Verizon store).
The worst part is I was really hoping for an ethernet port in this hotel room but there isn't one unfortunately.
Edit: Just realized this is under Galaxy S8+... My mistake, I found this thread via a google search. Not sure if you can help me or not since my phones an S6, but would still appreciate any and all help.