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I've got a new A500 and I intend to root it soon, but I would like advice on whether to take the current update 7.014.1 being pushed before I go through the rooting process? It currently shows having 3.2 OS version.
Zoandroid said:
I've got a new A500 and I intend to root it soon, but I would like advice on whether to take the current update 7.014.1 being pushed before I go through the rooting process? It currently shows having 3.2 OS version.
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Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
timmyDean said:
Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
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My concern, being still in the middle of researching just how to root the A500, was whether the update would have a similar effect as, for example, the more major update from 3.0 to 3.2, which, as I understand it totally changes the procedure used to achieve root. But if it won't matter one way or the other, I might as well take the update in the interim. I keep hoping to see a more simple 'one-click' style of root made available before I tackle this task. So far I've found something like 3 different ways to root the tablet between this forum and another. But each is a rather involved process.
Thanks!
timmyDean said:
Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
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I downgraded, rooted, and then flashed the stock ROM without wiping. If going to any other rom, you might need to wipe.
There currently is no way to root a stock 3.2 or later tablet with a simple one click. In the past GingerBreak gave us that ability but since has been plugged. The other thing causing issues is ACER locked the boot loader making it difficult to flash in a new boot image to get to root.
=== 411 on rooting ===
So, if you have a tablet and want to root it then you have to start looking at security holes. This is what the GingerBreak exploit did along with others. But, ACER plugged those holes and as of today, nobody has found anymore.
So, you might look at exploiting an update.zip. These are OTA's that run but they are signed by ACER. So you can take it apart (unzip) and modify it, but you cannot resign it with an ACER Key. Therefore, you have to sign it with your key. Since it is NOT signed by ACER, the ACER recovery will not install it. So, you have to replace the ACER recovery with CWM which will install any update.zip regardless of who signed it. You just need to change the built in recovery by flashing in CWM recovery.
Lastly, you can just change the boot image and add root. This is easy and straight forward to do. This is just like making your own custom update.zip. Once you have your custom boot, you can then just use Nvflash to flash in your custom boot.
Now, fast forward. ACER (can someone please explain to me why?) decided to lock the bootloader thereby not allowing you to replace the recovery, boot, or any other area. Meaning, you cannot use Nvflash anymore without a key.
With the bootloader locked, you can only load new images if you know the key used to lock it. Of course, they use a public and private key combination, and they appear to use the serial number of the USB device as part of the public key making the keys on my tablet unique compared to yours.
With all this said, this ends all the easy simple rooting methods because first, they've plugged all the security holes (which they should do). Secondly, they locked the boot loader making it very difficult for people to just flash in a rooted boot image.
Armed with this, how do you root a 3.2? One way to do it is to get to a version prior to 3.2 loaded that has a security hole or does not have the bootloader locked. You now exploit it and get root. Now, with root access you make a 'backdoor' that only you know about which allows you to get into your tablet as root. With this done, now roll your tablet forward apply all updates. Since you have a 'backdoor' you can always gain root access.
Unfortunately, this gets to be messy or can be more difficult to do than just clicking on a GingerBreak application. However, if you follow the steps posted here in the forum, it's straight forward and easy enough to do. If not, you are going to have to wait for someone to find a hole and build a oneclick application. I wouldn't hold my breath on this, it probably will never happen because everyone is working on ICS.
Lastly, everyone should write to ACER, refuse to buy ACER (or any tablet) that doesn't allow you (AS THE OWNER) to change it. How would you like to buy a Ford to just have Ford lock the lug nuts on the rims so you could NOT put on your custom wheels.
I believe failure to allow owners to unlock these devices will be the downfall to Android. Windows 8 does NOT have such restrictions and businesses are not going to use devices that are locked and cannot be customized for business. Because developers write software they can sell, they'll move to Windows 8 and drop supporting Android and all these goofy flavors and restrictions. Android might be great and everyone hates Microsoft, but software vendors are going to NOT want to support all these devices.
my 2¢
timmyDean said:
There currently is no way to root a stock 3.2 or later tablet with a simple one click. In the past GingerBreak gave us that ability but since has been plugged. The other thing causing issues is ACER locked the boot loader making it difficult to flash in a new boot image to get to root.
=== 411 on rooting ===
So, if you have a tablet and want to root it then you have to start looking at security holes. This is what the GingerBreak exploit did along with others. But, ACER plugged those holes and as of today, nobody has found anymore.
So, you might look at exploiting an update.zip. These are OTA's that run but they are signed by ACER. So you can take it apart (unzip) and modify it, but you cannot resign it with an ACER Key. Therefore, you have to sign it with your key. Since it is NOT signed by ACER, the ACER recovery will not install it. So, you have to replace the ACER recovery with CWM which will install any update.zip regardless of who signed it. You just need to change the built in recovery by flashing in CWM recovery.
Lastly, you can just change the boot image and add root. This is easy and straight forward to do. This is just like making your own custom update.zip. Once you have your custom boot, you can then just use Nvflash to flash in your custom boot.
Now, fast forward. ACER (can someone please explain to me why?) decided to lock the bootloader thereby not allowing you to replace the recovery, boot, or any other area. Meaning, you cannot use Nvflash anymore without a key.
With the bootloader locked, you can only load new images if you know the key used to lock it. Of course, they use a public and private key combination, and they appear to use the serial number of the USB device as part of the public key making the keys on my tablet unique compared to yours.
With all this said, this ends all the easy simple rooting methods because first, they've plugged all the security holes (which they should do). Secondly, they locked the boot loader making it very difficult for people to just flash in a rooted boot image.
Armed with this, how do you root a 3.2? One way to do it is to get to a version prior to 3.2 loaded that has a security hole or does not have the bootloader locked. You now exploit it and get root. Now, with root access you make a 'backdoor' that only you know about which allows you to get into your tablet as root. With this done, now roll your tablet forward apply all updates. Since you have a 'backdoor' you can always gain root access.
Unfortunately, this gets to be messy or can be more difficult to do than just clicking on a GingerBreak application. However, if you follow the steps posted here in the forum, it's straight forward and easy enough to do. If not, you are going to have to wait for someone to find a hole and build a oneclick application. I wouldn't hold my breath on this, it probably will never happen because everyone is working on ICS.
Lastly, everyone should write to ACER, refuse to buy ACER (or any tablet) that doesn't allow you (AS THE OWNER) to change it. How would you like to buy a Ford to just have Ford lock the lug nuts on the rims so you could NOT put on your custom wheels.
I believe failure to allow owners to unlock these devices will be the downfall to Android. Windows 8 does NOT have such restrictions and businesses are not going to use devices that are locked and cannot be customized for business. Because developers write software they can sell, they'll move to Windows 8 and drop supporting Android and all these goofy flavors and restrictions. Android might be great and everyone hates Microsoft, but software vendors are going to NOT want to support all these devices.
my 2¢
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Hi, and thank you VERY much for posting such a nice explanation, especially in addition to all the work you have done posting your thread rooting 3.2. I understand, and completely agree with your explanation, as well as your position on taking control of what we bought and paid for. I take even stronger offense with this tablet's bootloader being locked than I do on my phones. This is not a discounted phone with a service plan tied to a cell provider. It has WiFi, but " I " am the only one providing its data (it never leaves my home). There is no justification here that I am 'leasing' a provider's technology . It was a gift, so I can't speak to choosing the vendor. But I like your wheel lug analogy.
I've been reading the threads on rooting, and both my Android phones are rooted and ROMed, so I've been around the block a couple times from the rooting aspect. But thus far I have been rather confused as to which route to take with the tablet. I don't want to be limited to using terminal for su access, so I want to 'fully root' the tablet. My goal is to allow apps like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and others I use on the phones, as well as having Clockworkmod Recovery, or similar recovery capable of working with nandroid backups. But for now I don't have plans to use a custom ROM. So having rooted stock 3.2 would suffice.
Although I do fully understand the need to research these kinds of things before jumping in, I also know that often times information evolves, and lengthy threads which were once considered current info end up not getting updated during that evolution. This can lead to wasted time reading information which can no longer actually be used . So in the spirit of pursuing the most current info, could you recommend which thread I can use to get the best results while rooting this 3.2.1 OS Tablet with the above goals in mind?
Used Timmydean's method, it is pretty easy as long as you follow his instructions with in the zip file he has made with all the tools you need inside of hat zip file. You root, install super user and busybox then download Acer recover installer and that will install cwm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20654298&postcount=129
Good luck and thanks again timmydean for this method.
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
Thanks, that sounds like the way to go. I'll head over to the link you provided.
I've got a couple of questions about the zip file at that post. I want to download that to my PC, and will be using ADB from there, right? I have the choice of doing so from either Windows XP SP3, or Windows 7 Home Premium. I read in older threads that many of the problems people had were only when they used XP, but were avoided by using Windows 7 (which was exactly opposite of what people experienced rooting the LG Ally), so it seems that in this case it is desirable to use Win7?
I presume I'll need to install a driver so the PC can 'see' the tablet. Is one provided in the tools, or do I need to download that somewhere?
I used windows 7. Yes the driver is in the zip file. I unzipped the file to a folder on my desktop and went from there.
In the zip there is a folder called usbpcdriver. Run the set up from within the fooder to get your driver... please read the instructions that say read me..
Sent from my A500 using xda premium
Thanks. I intend to read everything I can get my hands on before I actually start this. I definitely don't want any trouble or, heaven forbid, to brick the tablet.
pretty easy i think... good luck and let us know when you get rooted
I'm not finding any actual instructions on the steps to take for this procedure. The readme file in version 3 zip file only talks about "changes" from whatever the original procedure was.
Where can I get the actual instructions for the entire procedure?
Edit: I just downloaded version 2 of the zip file. In that one there is an additional PDF called "Steps". It is a little more detailed, and says at step 20 that "you should now have 3.2 with a SU shell installed". Does the DotNetDetector step actually ROOT the device? That seems simple enough, but it still has no mention of things like installing ADB and the PC driver. I located the actual thread from which the single post was derived (the target of the URL above, where it is suggested I use TimmyDean's procedure). I am now looking through that entire thread to try to sort out where the instructions are.
AHA! Post 119 of that main thread says "Also the instructions and everything you need are in earlier posts.".
It appears this procedure needs an instruction manual written to consolidate all the gathered information. Having a link to only the download zip files isn't telling me the whole picture. I'll try gleaning the thread and see if I can put together all the steps needed from start to finish to make this work. Looks like ROOT ain't happening tonight.
http://www.multiupload.com/SLR6XSV841
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thats the link to read me file.. I about to jail break an Iphone 4... Wish me luck
I edited the above post while you were replying. I'll check out that link, thanks.
Good luck on jailbreaking the DemonSpawn 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
he has updated it again. looks like a few steps where taken out to make it more simpler
good luck man. Iphone is jail broken
OK, so it looks like the file you just sent me a link to is the same one as the "Steps.PDF" file that was released in Version 2. It appears to me that what I need to do is blend the changes (detailed in version 3's readme file) into that original Steps file, to make a single contiguous set of instructions, and then start at the top. I notice it does mention installing the PC driver and ADB.
Do I have this right so far?
rdnkchevy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
he has updated it again. looks like a few steps where taken out to make it more simpler
good luck man. Iphone is jail broken
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That was fast! Wanna do my tablet?
The link you sent just now is to the version 3 zip file posted on 12/25, which is what I had initially downloaded. It does appear he streamlined the procedure, but it is that readme file which leaves out the part about installing the PC driver and ADB in the beginning, and also leaves out the part at the end telling you that you should now have 3.2 with a SU shell installed.
Please understand that I want to be "fully" rooted, not just have the ability to gain an SU prompt in terminal. Will this procedure "fully root" the tablet? I'm confused by what he means saying "SU shell installed".
Yes if you use his v3 file you will be.. you will need to down load acer recovery from the market after you are rooted and then flash clockworkmod.. this should all take you about 30 min if that...
rdnkchevy said:
Yes if you use his v3 file you will be.. you will need to down load acer recovery from the market after you are rooted and then flash clockworkmod.. this should all take you about 30 min if that...
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OK, thanks!! Rooting went well without incident. I just installed Root Explorer and Titanium Backup, and made a backup to SD of my apps and data. Then installed Acer Recovery Installer, and let it install CWM Recovery. But what is considered the "home" button on the tablet?? Is it the reset button? The only buttons on this thing are the Volume rocker and the Power button. ( I got brave and found out it is the POWER button ).
Edit: To clarify, I meant to ask which button serves as the Home button while you are IN the CWM Recovery environment, not while in the Android OS home screen.
Noob, here. I have a small computer repair business and offered to take a look at a friend's A501. I am quite embarrassed to admit it, but I have searched through these (and other) forums and I am clueless. Due to my complete ignorance, I fear I may have made matters worse by becoming flash happy. Would anyone be able to give me *very* remedial instructions for what to try? I have no idea what the CUID is or how to obtain it, and I know nothing more about the machine than what I am able to extract by looking at it. Humbly, Anne
Let me add that I have searched and tried to follow the instructions on many other posts on this subject, I believe that haven't been successful because it seems that there is a prior knowlege/familiarity required with the OS/device that I don't have. Thanks again.
annenap said:
Noob, here. I have a small computer repair business and offered to take a look at a friend's A501. I am quite embarrassed to admit it, but I have searched through these (and other) forums and I am clueless. Due to my complete ignorance, I fear I may have made matters worse by becoming flash happy. Would anyone be able to give me *very* remedial instructions for what to try? I have no idea what the CUID is or how to obtain it, and I know nothing more about the machine than what I am able to extract by looking at it. Humbly, Anne
Let me add that I have searched and tried to follow the instructions on many other posts on this subject, I believe that haven't been successful because it seems that there is a prior knowlege/familiarity required with the OS/device that I don't have. Thanks again.
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hehehe 'flash happy' welcome to the club!!! Yes the acer is a strange beast, luckily though its fairly 'unbrickable' unless your tab suffers from the hardware fault prob.
There are a couple of guides in my sig you should look at before attempting a fix.
The cpuid guide for a start, there are quite a few different ways of retrieving this - its all explained in the OP.
The root guide is a500 based, but everything will work for the 501 and has links to all the tools you will need
You don't say whats actually wrong with the tab - does it boot still, is there a custom recovery (power vol down buttons) on there and can you boot to that?
The more info you can give the easier it will be to provide the best solution
rgds donna
dibb_nz said:
hehehe 'flash happy' welcome to the club!!! Yes the acer is a strange beast, luckily though its fairly 'unbrickable' unless your tab suffers from the hardware fault prob.
There are a couple of guides in my sig you should look at before attempting a fix.
The cpuid guide for a start, there are quite a few different ways of retrieving this - its all explained in the OP.
The root guide is a500 based, but everything will work for the 501 and has links to all the tools you will need
You don't say whats actually wrong with the tab - does it boot still, is there a custom recovery (power vol down buttons) on there and can you boot to that?
The more info you can give the easier it will be to provide the best solution
rgds donna
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Hi Donna-
Yeah, I guess explaining what it's doing might be helpful. Right now, if I just power it up, the acer logo is in the center and in top left corner is "boot verified failed" in red.
Power + vol up, displays in the top left corner:
erasing cache before sd update
sd update cmd: recovery
update package=sd card update.zip
booting recovery kernel image
then it shows the android guy working then the android guy dead
I'll take a stab at determining the CPUID tomorrow.
Thanks again.
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Hi Donna-
Yeah, I guess explaining what it's doing might be helpful. Right now, if I just power it up, the acer logo is in the center and in top left corner is "boot verified failed" in red.
Power + vol up, displays in the top left corner:
erasing cache before sd update
sd update cmd: recovery
update package=sd card update.zip
booting recovery kernel image
then it shows the android guy working then the android guy dead
I'll take a stab at determining the CPUID tomorrow.
Thanks again.
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EDIT: I'm just uploading a 501 update.zip - the 500 will work ok you just won't have 3G
I'll post a link when its done
ok you might be able to get fixed by heading to the root guide in my sig.
download the 3.1 FULL update.zip - rename it to update.zip and make sure it doesn't end up as update.zip.zip
Copy it to your external sd card
Start the update by Pwr and vol up
If it works your tab will be back on HC 3.1
Grab your CPUID - its the easiest way
From there you can get system updates all the way to ICS OR
Install the v8 bootloader to flash any ICS/JB roms
If it doesn' work you will need that CPUID
Good Luck m8!!
rgds donna
so i had jwr66v rooted with superSU twrp cmw 6.035 or whast ever.
now i have updated to ******y and i tried to flash a ROM in in CWM but it did nothing. at all. i rebooted into recovery only to get a droid on his back with a red ! coming out his belly. um problem here. i opened super Su and it said i need to reroot because i have installed 4.3
how can i reroot if i can't access recovery.
tried using toolkit to reroot (un root to stock first) but it froze now having this problem: post #455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45162727&posted=1#post45162727
anyone?
Just flash recovery from cmd/terminal using fastboot.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
never used it. details would be nice.
Want details? There are stickies and tutorials for a reason. Lemme guess, you used a toolkit to root it the first time?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
sure I'll follow one of your tutorials. most of the time written as if we know every detail about android development jargon. oh and most tuts have missing details that usually means moderate technical knowledge people have to make assumptions when following those instructions. another issue I'm funding with following "stickies" is because there are so many different ways to update and so many different versions of root tools made by many different clever developers. sometimes they don't all work together. most of the time i will follow some developers half thrown together set of instructions only to have to redo the instructions 3 of 4 times because of the reasons all mentioned above.
short response to your reply. i followed a simple tutorial put up by a developer and most likely used a tool kit. now i have issues. rather then spend countless hours hunting for else who has had the same problem and actually posted it, i decided to ask the question so someone like yourself that enjoys spending hours each night balls deep in code can give me a simple link or basic set of instructions so i can have some relief.
Adb and fastboot. Those are the only tools you need to use.
If I had been in your shoes, I would have done a bit of googling on the term 'fastboot recovery'
I don't know why some people make this so hard. This is a developer site, if you don't want to learn, you shouldn't be here. Considering all this **** is literally spelled out for you with step by step documentation, it doesn't make any sense to click that 'new thread' button when this issue is so common.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
yeah googling more is what got me following half arse instructions and wading hours of my day. so which part of your detailed instructions would have led you ( if in my shoes) to Google fast boot recovery?
well I have now downloaded the latest tool kit so i can un root. then I'm going to hunt through countless posts and try find which is the best way to root and install cm10.x hopefully next time their is an update i won't have to reroot just to get all my little root access apps back.
ps this is the trouble shoot q&a section not the developers only section. hence why i posted here.
Welcome to xda-DEVELOPERS.com.
Maybe you missed that part. The domain name isn't xda-hold-lazy-asses-hand-and-make-their-device-cool.com
You are expected to read, comprehend, and take initiative to learn. Asking for a hand holding session is not the way.
If you would bother reading the stickies, you would see how easy it is to flash recovery. There is a tutorial in the damn stickies that literally walks you through the process.
Hint: every goddamn nexus gets rooted and recovery flash the same way regardless of what version of android you are on
I don't know how much more plain and simple we could be here.
Fastboot flash recovery name of recovery.IMG
I mean wtf how could you NOT find that?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
since you are being so lazy, and i have obviously had enough to drink tonight:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150661
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_fastboot_intro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072732
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175086
READ!
heres another hint. you need a recovery made SPECIFICALLY for your device 'tilapia'
so..... thanks for the pointless rant, after re read many guides and how tos, also wasting a saturday. still cant get the bootloader to update from version 4.13 (read post 1 again) not even using fastboot. Also read post #455 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45162727&posted=1#post45162727
aza510 said:
so..... thanks for the pointless rant, after re read many guides and how tos, also wasting a saturday. still cant get the bootloader to update from version 4.13 (read post 1 again) not even using fastboot. Also read post #455 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45162727&posted=1#post45162727
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Use stock images for Android 4.2 and not 4.3 to avoid that error.
But i'm not sure why you want to flash anything else than recovery? Do you want to get it back to pure stock?
Dear and knowledgeable readers!
Being a longtime lurker, your tireless work and dedication to the community have enabled me to unlock and root many different android devices over the years and I am deeply grateful this place exists.
Right now, I plan on adding the recently released
Lenovo Smart Tab M10 FHD Plus 2nd Gen [ZA5T0302SE / TB-X606F, I believe]
in the WLAN/4GB/64GB variant to my collection. Having grown accustomed to the luxury of root access, I was wondering if anyone already had some experience with rooting the device and would be willing to share his / her knowledge with me.
Especially, I was wondering if this guide for the TB-X605F, which I have successfully used in the past for my older model, would (in principle) be applicable, as long as I could obtain the corresponding firmware for the newer one, which might be available here (as soon as GD wills it).
Any advice / support would be highly appreciated!
[Sidenote]: To my best ability, I wasn’t able to find an existing thread on the topic of rooting the device in question and I hope to have chosen the right forum to post it in (or if the general Q&A would have been the better fit?). If not, dear mods, please be lenient with me and simply move the thread to the proper subforum.
Brotinger said:
Dear and knowledgeable readers!
Being a longtime lurker, your tireless work and dedication to the community have enabled me to unlock and root many different android devices over the years and I am deeply grateful this place exists.
Right now, I plan on adding the recently released
Lenovo Smart Tab M10 FHD Plus 2nd Gen [ZA5T0302SE / TB-X606F, I believe]
in the WLAN/4GB/64GB variant to my collection. Having grown accustomed to the luxury of root access, I was wondering if anyone already had some experience with rooting the device and would be willing to share his / her knowledge with me.
Especially, I was wondering if this guide for the TB-X605F, which I have successfully used in the past for my older model, would (in principle) be applicable, as long as I could obtain the corresponding firmware for the newer one, which might be available here (as soon as GD wills it).
Any advice / support would be highly appreciated!
[Sidenote]: To my best ability, I wasn’t able to find an existing thread on the topic of rooting the device in question and I hope to have chosen the right forum to post it in (or if the general Q&A would have been the better fit?). If not, dear mods, please be lenient with me and simply move the thread to the proper subforum.
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If you download the lmsa tool, plug in the tablet and go to recovery it will download the full stock firmware. Then you can find it c/program data/LMSA/downloads.
I did that then downloads magisk manager. Extract the boot.img from firmware and put in storage of tablet. Then used magisk manager and patch the boot.img it will tell where it is stored. Extract from tablet and put it in same folder as adb/fast boot. Then put tablet in fastboot and fastboot flash boot magisk-patched.img. then fastboot reboot. The will be rooted with magisk
I forgot. You must unlock bootloader to do this.
Dear 11mackey11,
thank you so very much for caring enough to share your knowledge with me!
So the guide I mentioned earlier is pretty much applicable for the newer model as well? What a relief!
I am also grateful for the hint on how to obtain the stock firmware. For all the dirty things I did to my devices in the past, it never became necessary to put the LMS-Assistant to use, but I will gladly change that now.
As soon as my device arrives, I will try to root it as you suggested and will report back how I fared.
Again, many thanks!
It took me some time to finally get to it … delivery problems with the device … busy work schedule …
… anyhow, I now took the leap and am happy to report that, thanks to your advice, I was able to add another rooted device to my ever-growing collection. “Worked like a charm”, as they use to say.
To repeat myself, I am very grateful for you taking the time to respond to my question and reassuring me that this was the path to follow.
Honestly, thanks!
Brotinger said:
It took me some time to finally get to it … delivery problems with the device … busy work schedule …
… anyhow, I now took the leap and am happy to report that, thanks to your advice, I was able to add another rooted device to my ever-growing collection. “Worked like a charm”, as they use to say.
To repeat myself, I am very grateful for you taking the time to respond to my question and reassuring me that this was the path to follow.
Honestly, thanks!
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Hi. I just purchased the same tablet. I would appreciate it if you could write up a guide on this forum. It would be a help for everyone.
I'm not even sure how you unlock the bootloader on this thing!
Hi and congratulations on your purchase! The TB-606F is a solid device in my book.
Although I have by now rooted more than a dozen android devices and guess I have at least somewhat of an idea of what I am doing, I am by far no pro on the issue. Basically, I consider myself more a “guide user” than a “guide creator”, still.
But as I have benefited from the kind- and helpfulness of this community many times before, I can’t leave this call for help unanswered.
The thing is, nonetheless, I would really like to refer anyone poised to root their TB-606F to the guide for the TB-605F which I linked to in my initial post. Rooting the TB-606F, in principle, demands the user to undertake the same steps as for rooting the TB-605F.
There are, from the top of my head, only two noticeable differences or variations from that guide which I discovered:
1) firmware
As I still haven’t found a reliable source to obtain the necessary stock firmware by download from the web, the advice of fellow user 11mackey11 comes in very handy who, in response to my initial post, pointed me to the LSMA to download the firmware from your very own device.
2) unlocking bootloader
At least with my device, the fastboot commands known to me to usually unlock the bootloader (as are “fastboot oem unlock-go”, “fastboot oem unlock” or “fastboot flashing unlock”) did not do the trick. I had to resort to the command line of “fastboot flashing unlock” to finally make some progress. This might be an outlier with me device, though, as 11mackey11 did not mention the issue.
Again, I will gladly provide any assistance I can offer, but as for writing up a guide, I would mostly carbon copy turboperson123’s guide for the TB-605F mentioned above anyhow and it does not seem right to take credit for his contributions.
But if you had any specific question, please don’t hesitate to ask and I will answer it to my best knowledge (which might not be much).
Tutorial
I found this tutorial specific to the X606F https://forum.frandroid.com/topic/2...u-lenovo-tab-m10-fhd-plus-tb-x606f-sans-twrp/ alas in French but Google translate makes a decent job out of it
b4nd0ler0 said:
I found this tutorial specific to the X606F https://forum.frandroid.com/topic/2...u-lenovo-tab-m10-fhd-plus-tb-x606f-sans-twrp/ alas in French but Google translate makes a decent job out of it
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I want to apply it to my device, have you tried this method?
Yes, tried and failed miserably. The tablet is not correctly rooted as reported by Root Checker. The su binary is there and shows it's Magisk but no root proper.
Will try again and report back when done.
b4nd0ler0 said:
Yes, tried and failed miserably. The tablet is not correctly rooted as reported by Root Checker. The su binary is there and shows it's Magisk but no root proper.
Will try again and report back when done.
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thanks, I'm waiting for news from you. The tablet is sold very much in our country. like this in the world. I'm sure the developers will do something about this device.
b4nd0ler0 said:
I found this tutorial specific to the X606F https://forum.frandroid.com/topic/2...u-lenovo-tab-m10-fhd-plus-tb-x606f-sans-twrp/ alas in French but Google translate makes a decent job out of it
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I rooted my device with this method
this method doesn't work
Hello dear Android users...
I've got the 3/64GB version of this device (ZA5T0300US) and this method of rooting did not work for me. When I check root in Magisk Manager, it says ctsProfile:false & basicIntegrity:true, so root doesn't work. I tried multiple times and every time had this same result. My ROM version is TB_X606F_USR_S100055_2001030016_V5.196_BMP_ROW (extracted ROM folder name). Are you sure your root actually 100% worked? What is your ROM version?
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Hello dear Android users...
I've got the 3/64GB version of this device (ZA5T0300US) and this method of rooting did not work for me. When I check root in Magisk Manager, it says ctsProfile:false & basicIntegrity:true, so root doesn't work. I tried multiple times and every time had this same result. My ROM version is TB_X606F_USR_S100055_2001030016_V5.196_BMP_ROW (extracted ROM folder name). Are you sure your root actually 100% worked? What is your ROM version?
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This method is working!
Use the Official Lenovo website to access your original "rom" file and get the "boot.img" file.
Program: Lenovo Rescue And Smart Assistant https://lnv.gy/3d8FHLi
For an article on how to download the Rom file via the program, see here. (Step 3)
https://bit.ly/2yE1nQf
Good Luck!
adroid_user said:
Hello dear Android users...
I've got the 3/64GB version of this device (ZA5T0300US) and this method of rooting did not work for me. When I check root in Magisk Manager, it says ctsProfile:false & basicIntegrity:true, so root doesn't work. I tried multiple times and every time had this same result. My ROM version is TB_X606F_USR_S100055_2001030016_V5.196_BMP_ROW (extracted ROM folder name). Are you sure your root actually 100% worked? What is your ROM version?
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You did not enable Magisk Hide
mingkee said:
You did not enable Magisk Hide
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That was it! Thanks! You're smarter & more helpful than Google!!! ))
Hi.
After i root the tablet, i tried to delete youtube and gdrive. Then i restart the tablet but it stuck in fastboot mode. Not booting.
i couldn't install stock rom. What i must do
I did this..
i patched the boot img from the lenovo program. and i like to shut down my devices when i dont use them and now i cant make it boot. im stuck in a bootloop and its says orange alert when i boot the device. i can only get into the fastboot menu. when i try to boot with vol + and power nothing happens and when i release it starts up again in a bootloop. i cant shut it down either. it just loops and loops. cant do the rescue thing with the program either.. anybody that knows how i can fix this?
I have an out of topic question regarding this tablet.
Can The Lenovo M10 Plus (2nd Gen) 10.3" TB-X606F Output Display via HDMI to TV ???
I tried using a powered USB-C to HDMI adapter to output/mirror the tablet to a TV, but it didn't work.
Brotinger said:
Hi and congratulations on your purchase! The TB-606F is a solid device in my book.
Although I have by now rooted more than a dozen android devices and guess I have at least somewhat of an idea of what I am doing, I am by far no pro on the issue. Basically, I consider myself more a “guide user” than a “guide creator”, still.
But as I have benefited from the kind- and helpfulness of this community many times before, I can’t leave this call for help unanswered.
The thing is, nonetheless, I would really like to refer anyone poised to root their TB-606F to the guide for the TB-605F which I linked to in my initial post. Rooting the TB-606F, in principle, demands the user to undertake the same steps as for rooting the TB-605F.
There are, from the top of my head, only two noticeable differences or variations from that guide which I discovered:
1) firmware
As I still haven’t found a reliable source to obtain the necessary stock firmware by download from the web, the advice of fellow user 11mackey11 comes in very handy who, in response to my initial post, pointed me to the LSMA to download the firmware from your very own device.
2) unlocking bootloader
At least with my device, the fastboot commands known to me to usually unlock the bootloader (as are “fastboot oem unlock-go”, “fastboot oem unlock” or “fastboot flashing unlock”) did not do the trick. I had to resort to the command line of “fastboot flashing unlock” to finally make some progress. This might be an outlier with me device, though, as 11mackey11 did not mention the issue.
Again, I will gladly provide any assistance I can offer, but as for writing up a guide, I would mostly carbon copy turboperson123’s guide for the TB-605F mentioned above anyhow and it does not seem right to take credit for his contributions.
But if you had any specific question, please don’t hesitate to ask and I will answer it to my best knowledge (which might not be much).
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Hey, thanks for all this useful info. I'm a noob when it comes to rooting. I have hit an issue, that you guys could probably easily advice me. I have got up to where you enter "fastboot flashing unlock" it comes back with something like "waiting for any device". How do I get past this point? I have tried pressing volum up as I saw on a guide however no luck.
unlock not possible
CMX939 said:
Hey, thanks for all this useful info. I'm a noob when it comes to rooting. I have hit an issue, that you guys could probably easily advice me. I have got up to where you enter "fastboot flashing unlock" it comes back with something like "waiting for any device". How do I get past this point? I have tried pressing volum up as I saw on a guide however no luck.
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I have the same issue, "waiting for device" and adb dies.
I assume, the latest lenovo updates (Android 9) block unlocking.
The current! LMSA tool does not allow to restore an old separately downloaded firmware
Hi, I've been struggling big time to update my device to Android 13. I bought mine when only 1.1.7 hotfix was out and therefore, now that I have unlocked the bootloader (yes, even unlock critical) and rooted the device, I'm not able to install 1.1.8, let alone Android 13. I have already bricked one and managed to get a new one but I don't want to risk it again. I've searched all over Google to a proper guide to update to Android 13, even with sideload, but it gives me an error regarding the payload file, at about 48% of the progress. Tried the *#*#682#*#* method but it stops with error code 20. I have tried flashing the stock boot file but same thing, code 20 from manual update. I'm pretty much desperate at this point and I'm even thinking about unrooting, lock the bootloader again and hopefully update it without an itch, but I really wouldn't want to wipe the device, so, if there's somebody there that could help me through a 100% working process, I'll always be in your debt.
Enzucuni said:
Hi, I've been struggling big time to update my device to Android 13. I bought mine when only 1.1.7 hotfix was out and therefore, now that I have unlocked the bootloader (yes, even unlock critical) and rooted the device, I'm not able to install 1.1.8, let alone Android 13. I have already bricked one and managed to get a new one but I don't want to risk it again. I've searched all over Google to a proper guide to update to Android 13, even with sideload, but it gives me an error regarding the payload file, at about 48% of the progress. Tried the *#*#682#*#* method but it stops with error code 20. I have tried flashing the stock boot file but same thing, code 20 from manual update. I'm pretty much desperate at this point and I'm even thinking about unrooting, lock the bootloader again and hopefully update it without an itch, but I really wouldn't want to wipe the device, so, if there's somebody there that could help me through a 100% working process, I'll always be in your debt.
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The best part of this whole thing is that you're rooted.
Do a backup with Swift Backup or what ever your backup app you prefer. Wipe it back to stock without locking the bootloader, make sure your sim card is not inserted then do your OTA updates.
As for the second device you bricked, there's a unbrick tool here:
unbrick tool- EDL Flash-Read-Repair Region Change tool
unbrick tool Now available for Nothing Phone1.. Features: Read Firmware (EDL) (locked bootloader) Flash Firmware (EDL) (locked bootloader) backup EFS (EDL) (locked bootloader) Wipe FRP & userdata (EDL) (locked bootloader) Size: 2.7GB Version...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just need to get or make a EDL cable then flash and you'll be back in business.
HermitDash said:
The best part of this whole thing is that you're rooted.
Do a backup with Swift Backup or what ever your backup app you prefer. Wipe it back to stock without locking the bootloader, make sure your sim card is not inserted then do your OTA updates.
As for the second device you bricked, there's a unbrick tool here:
unbrick tool- EDL Flash-Read-Repair Region Change tool
unbrick tool Now available for Nothing Phone1.. Features: Read Firmware (EDL) (locked bootloader) Flash Firmware (EDL) (locked bootloader) backup EFS (EDL) (locked bootloader) Wipe FRP & userdata (EDL) (locked bootloader) Size: 2.7GB Version...
forum.xda-developers.com
Just need to get or make a EDL cable then flash and you'll be back in business.
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First bricked device was replaced in RMA. But yeah, rooted, unlocked and yet nothing works. I was thinking about wiping it, even if I don't really want to because it's a pain every time. Man, Android modding when to ****e and I'm leaning more and more towards getting an iPhone and call it a day, maybe with a jailbreak
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First bricked device was replaced in RMA. But yeah, rooted, unlocked and yet nothing works. I was thinking about wiping it, even if I don't really want to because it's a pain every time. Man, Android modding when to ****e and I'm leaning more and more towards getting an iPhone and call it a day, maybe with a jailbreak
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Swift does their backups well so from wipe to setup depending on how many apps ya got took like 20 mins to do?
Once you get to A13 tho, my god the battery life is amazing. I don't use my NP1 as a daily driver but it sits in my pocket along with my daily OP7Pro and it out lasts it by a mile. Really hyped for the NP2 and what they bring optimization wise.
Or in your case you could carry both and see how you feel about it xD
Oh and it's likely the patched boot image (while rooted) that's causing the update errors. Once you restore the stock boot image you should be able to update without issue.
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Swift does their backups well so from wipe to setup depending on how many apps ya got took like 20 mins to do?
Once you get to A13 tho, my god the battery life is amazing. I don't use my NP1 as a daily driver but it sits in my pocket along with my daily OP7Pro and it out lasts it by a mile. Really hyped for the NP2 and what they bring optimization wise.
Or in your case you could carry both and see how you feel about it xD
Oh and it's likely the patched boot image (while rooted) that's causing the update errors. Once you restore the stock boot image you should be able to update without issue.
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I actually restored it but to no avail. Same errors as described
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I actually restored it but to no avail. Same errors as described
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Welp, back to stock you go then haha ADB it to EDL then run the unbrick tool and you should be at 0
I might be actually lazy enough to wait for a hint of a custom twrp-like recovery and go from there
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I might be actually lazy enough to wait for a hint of a custom twrp-like recovery and go from there
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Might not be stable on first release but yea that's in the rumor pipelines
Yeah, I think I'll wait. A12 is still really nice. Some bugs here and there but perfectly usable and battery is basically infinite.
First of all, to jailbreak the iPhone and set it up correctly with all the needed software that jailbreaking provides nowdays ... is actually harder than it was a few years ago.
Secondly, if you had just read through the full topic containing the Nothing OS repo, you would have found several people with the same problem that u had, who had solved it successfully.
Go back to stock, wipe, and redo the official step-by-step of updating, will work like a charm. if you want to jailbreak. First, read through the posts of others to see if there are any problems that you would like to avoid, and if there are, don't do it.
You are lucky enough to have had your first device replaced by a new one just like that. Updating while rooted was always a problem for Android, and it always varied per device. it was up to the one who is rooting to check the situation regarding his/her specific model
You could try flashing the fastboot ROMs made by @ot_inc (it's not 100% safe for your data so make a backup in any case).
[Restore NothingOS & Magisk] Nothing Phone(1) Fastboot ROM(Full ROM) & boot.img Global v1.1.6
Fastboot ROM and boot.img for NothingPhone(1) are now available. v1.1.6 is available. Sorry for my poor English, I'm Japanese. https://reindex-ot.github.io/
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kriistofor said:
First of all, to jailbreak the iPhone and set it up correctly with all the needed software that jailbreaking provides nowdays ... is actually harder than it was a few years ago.
Secondly, if you had just read through the full topic containing the Nothing OS repo, you would have found several people with the same problem that u had, who had solved it successfully.
Go back to stock, wipe, and redo the official step-by-step of updating, will work like a charm. if you want to jailbreak. First, read through the posts of others to see if there are any problems that you would like to avoid, and if there are, don't do it.
You are lucky enough to have had your first device replaced by a new one just like that. Updating while rooted was always a problem for Android, and it always varied per device. it was up to the one who is rooting to check the situation regarding his/her specific model
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Where is the step by step ? The one that actually works ?
hmm, honestly it may be on somewhere in the first few pages (not the first one) but you can also search the google, now there are several sites quoting options for updating nothing phone.
sorry if i sounded harsh
anyways, if you go back to stock, and update the device from 1.1.7 to 1.5 incl. all hotfix updates, it should go smoothly.
I also said if you want to jailbreak in one moment in my post when i meant to say if you want to root.
Rooting nowdays is easy and hard at the same time. easy to pull off, but hard to understand that now there are several different steps that need to be done to turn the rooted device into a fully functional one. and for many it is not worth it, but for those that are interested, I would just advise reading through all the posts carefully and learning to search efficiently. Not only will you find the answer yourself, thus remembering it more clearly, but you will also be introduced to facts you were unaware of.
good luck, the most important step is to go back to stock succesfully, read the whole nothing os repo thread just to make sure you are not missing something
kriistofor said:
hmm, honestly it may be on somewhere in the first few pages (not the first one) but you can also search the google, now there are several sites quoting options for updating nothing phone.
sorry if i sounded harsh
anyways, if you go back to stock, and update the device from 1.1.7 to 1.5 incl. all hotfix updates, it should go smoothly.
I also said if you want to jailbreak in one moment in my post when i meant to say if you want to root.
Rooting nowdays is easy and hard at the same time. easy to pull off, but hard to understand that now there are several different steps that need to be done to turn the rooted device into a fully functional one. and for many it is not worth it, but for those that are interested, I would just advise reading through all the posts carefully and learning to search efficiently. Not only will you find the answer yourself, thus remembering it more clearly, but you will also be introduced to facts you were unaware of.
good luck, the most important step is to go back to stock succesfully, read the whole nothing os repo thread just to make sure you are not missing something
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Umm.. no, you're not sounding harsh. And I've already done that: "google it" and stuff. This is why I post teh question here. This is not my first time at this lol !
kriistofor said:
hmm, honestly it may be on somewhere in the first few pages (not the first one) but you can also search the google, now there are several sites quoting options for updating nothing phone.
sorry if i sounded harsh
anyways, if you go back to stock, and update the device from 1.1.7 to 1.5 incl. all hotfix updates, it should go smoothly.
I also said if you want to jailbreak in one moment in my post when i meant to say if you want to root.
Rooting nowdays is easy and hard at the same time. easy to pull off, but hard to understand that now there are several different steps that need to be done to turn the rooted device into a fully functional one. and for many it is not worth it, but for those that are interested, I would just advise reading through all the posts carefully and learning to search efficiently. Not only will you find the answer yourself, thus remembering it more clearly, but you will also be introduced to facts you were unaware of.
good luck, the most important step is to go back to stock succesfully, read the whole nothing os repo thread just to make sure you are not missing something
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You said, "Go back to stock, wipe, and redo the official step-by-step of updating, will work like a charm."
Where are you getting this from ?