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I was talking to my dad about getting a G1 and then unlocking it so I can use it for ATT. But, he came up with an question I cannot answer.
Say my phones plan charges me per how long I'm on the interenet, whereas on like the iPhone it just charges you monthly. So, whatever plan your SIM card has, it affects that for the G1? So when I put my SIM card in, I get charged for how much data I use? :/ Sorry if it's a bit hard to understand. Pretty much, it goes like this: How does it charge you for data ?
Also, I love how the G1 also has a slide out keyboard, but it will soon be outdated by the Magic. Should I just wait for the Magic, or get a G1 now?
1st - G1 & Magic use basically same hardware - so if you love the kb, get the G1.
2nd - data plan is based on the carrier - go shop ATT.com and see what their unlimited data plan costs. TMo is $20/mo - $25 w/text. ATT may be higher (probably is EDIT: $30/mo w/voice, $35 data only).
-bZj
ATT's $15 per month unlimited data works fine.
They charge you a hefty price per kilobyte if you don't have an unlimited data plan... not by how long you use the internet.
I can't pay much monthly for my phone, so if I sacrifice the amount I pay for texting, I can afford it, but I have a question. Are there any free texting apps? So I can still text. :x
First of all, myTouch is way cooler than the iPhone. It's only a matter of time before google rules the world.
I've searched the forums and still couldnt find all the answers I was looking for.
I currently pay only $70 per month flexpay with 600mins, unlimited txt and tzones. It all works flawlessly with my iPhone.
If I purchase a mytouch on ebay and just plug in my sim, why shouldnt it also work flawlessly? On tmobile.com I have a dumbphone listed so they shouldnt know right?
If they detect the myTouch from the IMEI and then block my data, can I have a Tmo rep do an IMEI switch?
What if I switch to the 19.99 internet plan?
,yea I had data for about 8 hours before I had to switch over to the android data (from smartphone data).
BUT im pretty sure you may be able to still use your iphone because I can still use data on my dash and shadow for a day without problems.
So yea you gotta have the android plan to use the phone. I have unlimited data and text for $34.,,,,,,,,,,
just call a rep or go into a tmo store and they'll change it over for you.
moved to the my touch from iphone 4 days ago
HI I bought the my touch 4 days ago.Rooted with 1 click method running Cyanogens 4.1.11.1 it works great but the t-zone will not work after a few hours and I don't want to pay $25 or $34 for data the $19 data plan will get block too and there not a lot of good apps so far so I may have to go back to my Iphone (that suck) Someone said i would have to change my IMEI # for t-zone to work and i don't think that can be done on the my touch.It is a cool phone just don't think i can pay that much for data. We will see maybe i change the phones when i go out for longer trips
So I'm curioous how this new data plan requirement works. Is there anyone out there who didn't have a $30 data plan when they got the Pure, and still doesn't have a $30 data plan?
If you had a $30 data plan added when you bought the Pure, was it added automatically by the system when you stuck your SIM in, or did the sales rep add it?
If you did not have a $30 data plan before you bought it, and the rep didn't add it, can you check the Online Account Manager and see if the Pure shows up but your data plan is still not the $30 plan?
Prior to purchasing the HTC Pure I had the unlimited family data plan for $10.00. I purchased the Pure at full retail price, as I was waiting to see if At&t would come out with some new devices before the end o f the year. As of today my data plan has not changed. The retail clerk did not offer or suggest or state that I was required to change my plan at the time of purchase. So I still have the $10.00 unlimited family data plan on my account.
I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.
For those of you with ATT you may be able to pay less for data like I do on T-Mo. Not sure what the equivilant Data plan to the $9.99Web2Go(formerly T-MoWeb $5.99) is but I get full web capability off of it with my unlocked phones. If I log onto My-Tmobile online and I put my phone as a WinMo phone My T-mo Web (GrandFathered in @ $5.99 ) goes away and I have to choose one of the $20+ Plans. So what I do is choos a low end phone as my device and I have the option of using my T-Mo web service. (Unlimited Data Baby)
This may work for ATT. I'm not familiar with ATTs site so I can't give direct directions for this but mebe you can do it. After doing it go to settings>all Settings> Connection and connection setup and your phone will automatically configure the settings. You probably wont even have to reconfigure the settingd. But you will have to be carful on what you DL because the low end data plans now have caps on them so you can only DL so much.
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I used my upgrade to buy the Pure so I was required to get the $30 data plan. Before I was still using an old 2125 (aka htc tornado). The unlimited plan for that was only $15 per month.
The data plan requirement is supposedly based on the device you are using, but when you buy a phone they only check your account if you are getting the upgrade discount for the phone.
If you buy the phone without the contract then that would explain why your data plan hasn't changed.
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Well I don't have the phone. I am just trying to confirm that if I buy a Touch Pro 2 no commit my data plan will or will not automatically change. I figured there must be someone out there who bought a Pure that can confirm this once and for all- one way or the other.
I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.
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I'm waiting on the Pure which I ordered online on attwireless. I bought it retail, no commitment and didnt't change my current plan. I will be adding the $15 data on the line I will be using the Pure. I currently have an unbranded phone on that line and can add any feature myself on their website. Something tells me that I'll get by.
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Nice. good to see that AT&T has a way to bypass the expensive plan like tmobile. Not many peolp know they can change plan options online.
Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.
SaltyDawg said:
Well we're all hoping that the "back door" way to use a $15 data plan works. But AT&T has been saying your plan will automatically get a $30 data plan added to it when you put your SIM card into any AT&T branded smartphone.
That's why I started this thread- to find out if they were bluffing or if they are serious.
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Intresting. I know T-mobile can see what phone I have (Topaz) and that it's not Branded. But if ATT automatically switches your plan with what phone you have that is total BS. Unlocked or Branded it shouldn't matter. It's non of their buisness.
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I give you an example. I gave my 3GS to my wife and she had the first generation iphone with the $20 data plus messaging and they're yet to figure out that she's using the 3GS with a cheaper plan.
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That's cool. They only say you need the high data plan to use all the phone features so they can make extra money. They could sell the phone without the data plan if they wanted and leave it as a side option.
AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?
AT&T finds out quickly what phone you use. I changed my sim from my unlocked Tilt to a Sony W580i, received 2 calls, made none, loged in to my AT&T account & there it appears my phone as a Sony W580i.
How do they find out& is there a way to get them from finding out?
Nope. They find out from the SIM card. It tells them which phone it's inserted in. Whenever I call Customer support for T-mobile they know I have an unlocked phone. They don't care. Not sure if AT&T cares. But on T-mobiles website I have the option of choosing which phone I'm "using" on my account. It doesn't automatically choose it for me unless I put my sim in a T-mo Branded phone.
I have been with AT&T for >7 years now. For the last 4 years or so, I've had a MediaNet plan that's $20 for All-you-can-eat data and 200 text messages. I've had 4 phones since then, 3 of which have been smartphones. I just checked my plan a minute ago, and it's still the same one.
There is an inertia built into the system. Unless someone goes in and specifically changes codes, they stay there forever. I'm still getting a company discount for a company I haven't worked for in over 2 years. Whatever codes you have in place will stay there. They know what phone you have because of the SIM card, but that has no effect on the codes.
The exception is the iPhone.
I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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Holy wow that's expensive. I pay $56 a month with taxes with unlimited data and 1500 messages. My sis and mom are on a family plan and pay 80 some odd dollars with messages. (No data for them).
Crazy how 3 phones is nearly the same as 2.
I just bought a Pure for 49.99 as an upgrade and one condition was to add the 30 dlls Data Plan. Att they don't sell you the phone if you don't add the data plan, thats what I've been told for one of their representatives. I had a Tilt for the past 2 years paying only $15 dlls for unlimited data, on my account appeared the tilt but on their system showed a Nokia 6682 phone. They didn't make the change from Nokia 6682 to the Tilt I don't know why. I bought the Tilt two years ago over the internet on Black Friday. Now it shows the Pure but with the 30 dlls data plan added. One thing is for sure if att finds out that you are using a Smartphone they will add you the 30 dlls data plan automatically and may charge for past months.
How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?
I thought I'm paying a lot for my phones but yours is worst. I have the Tilt with Unlimited data+200 message, my wife has the iPhone 1st Gen and my son has a Samsung phone with unlimited msg (no data). My monthly bill is about $140.
Since I'm already on the $30 unlimited data plan on my Tilt, is there a way to switch back to the cheaper plan?
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I have the $25 unlimited data plan that has 200 messages and unlimited "in-network" messaging (SMS and MMS).
AT&T is sending me a Pure as a warranty replacement when their 4 broken Fuzes didn't work. They never said anything about automatically upgrading my account.
We also upgraded my wife's old a$$ samsung Blackjack to the new Samsung Jack because it is supposed to get a WM6.5 upgrade soon. The guy said the upgrade was supposed to require a data plan. I just said she doesn't use data just likes the keyboard for SMSing... he quick to move on. No problem at all.
I think it's stupid that they even had 2 different data plans based off what phone you have. Total crap. They tell me that my phone is "too fast" for the cheaper data package and the internet can't keep up with it. lol.
AT&T is already expensive for their services. We pay like $140 for 2 freakin' phones; 1 with unlimited SMS and mine with Data. Outrageous. We almost pay more for the 2 addons then we do our actual voice plan.
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How did you get them to sell it for 49.95?
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On tigerdirect.com they have it as an upgrade for 49.99 and the Tilt 2 for 199.99 free activation also.
This is just an FYI to everyone who swtched from an android device to the HD2. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHEAPER DATA PLAN! they will try to tell you that the smartphone data plan and the android data plan are specific to the device and that one will not work on the other, but that is just not true. My android plan is $24.99 unlimited data and 400 texts a month the smartphone data plan is $30 with no texts. so after getting text messaging it's $10 more expensive. I swtch from my G1 to my HD2 all the time and the data works on both. Call up the customer loyalty group people and demand your android data plan back! they will give it to you if you keep at it. they switched me to the more expensive data plan after specificly telling them not to, i think its just an automatic system adjustment when you buy an HD2. but it can be switched back and it DOES WORK! dont be fooled by the CSR's they dont know what they are talking about. Spread the word!
This applys to anyone like me who has an old and cheap family plan and obviously not people with the unlimited everything plans
I'm set up the same way. Only issue is you will get some funky text messages for the vm notifications. Notifications on the wm phones still work, though.
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This is just an FYI to everyone who swtched from an android device to the HD2. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR CHEAPER DATA PLAN! they will try to tell you that the smartphone data plan and the android data plan are specific to the device and that one will not work on the other, but that is just not true. My android plan is $24.99 unlimited data and 400 texts a month the smartphone data plan is $30 with no texts. so after getting text messaging it's $10 more expensive. I swtch from my G1 to my HD2 all the time and the data works on both. Call up the customer loyalty group people and demand your android data plan back! they will give it to you if you keep at it. they switched me to the more expensive data plan after specificly telling them not to, i think its just an automatic system adjustment when you buy an HD2. but it can be switched back and it DOES WORK! dont be fooled by the CSR's they dont know what they are talking about. Spread the word!
This applys to anyone like me who has an old and cheap family plan and obviously not people with the unlimited everything plans
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I thought the same way, so I kept my Blackberry data plan for 25 dollars.
It didn't work properly. Internet was ok, but kept getting weird mms or email issues. changed to the 'proper' 30 dollar plan after 4 days, and I don't have that issue anymore.
As for how or why that happens, I don't know.
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I'm set up the same way. Only issue is you will get some funky text messages for the vm notifications. Notifications on the wm phones still work, though.
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I haven't noticed any text messages for the vm notifications. I do have visual vm working on the HD2.
I wasn't actually aware of the price difference between the 2 data plans.
I actually switched back to Android data plan so I could try something on my HTC Dream and since the HD2 works as well... no reason to switch back.
I thought tmo us only offers 2 kinds of data plan. first one is for blackberry users and it's called blackberry network. the second one is for any other smart phone users. it's called the android network. even hd2 is a wm phone, it uses the android network.
its not that bad of a deal considering you pay 30$ for data and 5$ extra for unlimited text
yeah it's not that bad its only $10 more, but everytime they have a new phone or OS they add a new data service that is a little more expensive. first it was the BB data which i believe started at $20 then the android $25 that includes texts, now they have the smartphone data plan $30 w/ no texts. To me it seems that if you can keep whatever grandfathered in data plan and phone plan for that matter it will always save you money. If you dont keep the charges where they are at they will nickel and dime you to death! the funny thing is that i doubt there is much of a change in the actual service it just has a new name and a new price tag to with it. once HSPDA is available in Kansas City where Im at I would gladly pay more, but i dont see a reason for charging more for the same service.
oh and also, I have had zero issues with the android data plan on my HD2. it works exactly the same as it did before when I had the new smartphone data plan and didnt know it. once I fiqured out they switched my data plan I immidiately switched back to the android plan. I have had no weird VM notification issues or anything.
good point
Heh I rem making a post about this too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=652990
Data plan costs the same. but if they give me the smartphone one, G1 internet dies.. However.. otherway around.. works fine.
t-mobile getting pretty close to at&t now with their data plans.i pay extra $5 now for unlimited web and text before i had the $35 unlimited data and text.i always thought data plans prices would go down day by day but i was defenetly WRONG.wondering how much carriers gonna charge for 4G datas?
I am looking at the HD2, presently have the iPhone. I am with T-Mobile and have the non-contract family plan (4 phones.) I have 750 shared minutes, unlimited Text, Unlimited Internet (my phone only) and pay $100.92/month.
I talked to T-Mobile at 2 different locations and they tell me something different.
If I buy a 2 Year contract I can get the HD2 for $199.00, but must pay $24.95 or $30.00/month for the data plan. They say that I can keep my other 3 phones without a contract. That equates to $240 more a year. However, I cannot just keep my unlimited Internet @ $10/month. I must get a data plan.
They tell me that I will be changed from the Unlimited Internet $10 to the Data Plan automatically when I use my phone.The 2 year contract does not bother me as I have used T-Mobile for years and will continue to do so unless I find a better plan.
My questions are:
1. What is the advantage of buying the HD2 at $500 vs $200 as you still have to buy the Data Plan? Apparently the 2 year contract.
2. Why can't I just buy the HD2 and use my old SIM card and continue under the plan I have? Will they really worry about my current Internet plan and get me for the Data Plan?
3. Is the HD2 better than the iPhone overall? I am very impressed with the HD2 and from what I have seen via YouTube, it is very slick.
I know I will receive different opinions, however, that is what I am looking for. Have had the MDA, Wing, Omnia and iPhone.
I value your opinions as I have been on XDA for years and have received very valuable information and Help! Thanks in advance.
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I am looking at the HD2, presently have the iPhone. I am with T-Mobile and have the non-contract family plan (4 phones.) I have 750 shared minutes, unlimited Text, Unlimited Internet (my phone only) and pay $100.92/month.
I talked to T-Mobile at 2 different locations and they tell me something different.
If I buy a 2 Year contract I can get the HD2 for $199.00, but must pay $24.95 or $30.00/month for the data plan. They say that I can keep my other 3 phones without a contract. That equates to $240 more a year. However, I cannot just keep my unlimited Internet @ $10/month. I must get a data plan.
They tell me that I will be changed from the Unlimited Internet $10 to the Data Plan automatically when I use my phone.The 2 year contract does not bother me as I have used T-Mobile for years and will continue to do so unless I find a better plan.
My questions are:
1. What is the advantage of buying the HD2 at $500 vs $200 as you still have to buy the Data Plan? Apparently the 2 year contract.
2. Why can't I just buy the HD2 and use my old SIM card and continue under the plan I have? Will they really worry about my current Internet plan and get me for the Data Plan?
3. Is the HD2 better than the iPhone overall? I am very impressed with the HD2 and from what I have seen via YouTube, it is very slick.
I know I will receive different opinions, however, that is what I am looking for. Have had the MDA, Wing, Omnia and iPhone.
I value your opinions as I have been on XDA for years and have received very valuable information and Help! Thanks in advance.
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dont know the difference between the $10 data plan and the $30 data plan but all i know i've been using the iPHONE 3g since it came out on t-mobile offcourse jailbroken,never thought i would go back to windows mobile till the HD2 arrived and i gave my iPHONE to my sister for good and never looked back cuz im shocked by the experience on the HD2 since i became a member on the XDA.thanx to XDA i've tweaked the HD2 and loving it and looking forward to the end of this year for XDA to flash WM to ANDROID 2.1 on the HD2.as far on buying the HD2,i've already have a contract with t-mobile and i was do for an upgrade but instead of upgrade i bought the phone with 4 months installment plan which is about $112.50 a month on the bill(which is not bad) and i made sure that they didnt upgrade my contract.also added $5.99 for full insurance.so.......... so far loving the HD2 and its a keeper for me.hope it helps u a little.
@asctony if I were you I would try tobuy an unlocked hd2 and try to keep the $10 internet.but I would make sure it works first somehow, anyone here know? the csr will say it wont but I bet it will.if it works the price difference would pay for your phone in a relatively short amount of time.
Thank you both for taking the time to answer my query. Yes, I will try to use my $10 Internet Unlimited. When I signed up for the $10 Internet Unlimited CSR told me that I could not and it would not work. However, little do they know other than $$$$$$$$. Been using it for almost a year. I am really excited about the HD2 and will let you know what my opinion is. Thanks again.
Actually, you don't need to call customer care. Log into your mytmobile, change the phone in your profile to an Android phone and then add your data plan.
@asctony: if you buy it from the TMo retail store or a 3rd party that does not have rebates and does not require a data plan, then no, you don't have to change your data plan. Use your existing data plan by changing your APN (search my post about Nexus One and HD2).
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Actually, you don't need to call customer care. Log into your mytmobile, change the phone in your profile to an Android phone and then add your data plan.
@asctony: if you buy it from the TMo retail store or a 3rd party that does not have rebates and does not require a data plan, then no, you don't have to change your data plan. Use your existing data plan by changing your APN (search my post about Nexus One and HD2).
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it is not like a switch that you toggle right? because i am looking at it in my profile but since i have a grandfathered plan it says it conflicts with the current smartphone plan. maybe i am not looking in the right spot.
that's weird.... I switched my plan from android internet to the total internet for the HD2. both were the same price of $24.95. I'm here in NJ if that makes a difference
Yeah I had the $34.99 unlimited internet and texts for android. When I called customer service they switched me over to the smartphone plan and I'm still paying $34.99, don't know how that happened exactly but I'm happy!
No MMS
I've been with T-Mobile forever. I had a Blackberry before my Touch Pro 2. My Blackberry BIS add-on charge is $19.99/month. Internet is good and fast, phone and SMS work great. Cannot send or receive MMS and was told by customer support that, "your HTC sends MMS via the data plan and your current Blackberry data plan is not compatible with your phone."
My kids have cheap camera phones that send/receive MMS on our same family plan, but my more sophisticated WinMo device cannot? Sounds fishy, but I have searched every thread and tried every setting and finally have given up. I can live without MMS if it's going to cost me an extra $180/year.
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yeah it's not that bad its only $10 more, but everytime they have a new phone or OS they add a new data service that is a little more expensive. first it was the BB data which i believe started at $20 then the android $25 that includes texts, now they have the smartphone data plan $30 w/ no texts. To me it seems that if you can keep whatever
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You are aware that they had the data plan for Smartphones long before Android came out, right?
I just got 2 HD2's about a month and a half back with the BOGO. I have a grandfathered family plan so I pay $25 instead of $30 for the smartphone data plan on each phone. I tried getting the preferred $20 smartphone data plan, but they said it was not available.
I want to know if i switch my sim card into an older dumb phone make a few calls and then ask T-Mobile to switch me to the t-zones or web2go plan?
Has anybody managed to do that?
Please keep in mind I am on contract.
Thanks for any help.
PS: I know this has been asked before, but I believe it seems to work for people who have got unsubsidized phones, I want to know if anybody on contract tried it out?
TZones is no longer available. I had to give my tzones up when I got my hd2 this week.....I did get the data plan for 20....
The 10 dollar web plan for regular phones, is now smart enough to know when the sim is put in a phone like the hd2 and tells you that you can't have web access...and points you to the upgrade screen so...tmobile closed down all the loop holes we used in the past for ultra cheap web access.
Ignore this.
thanks for the reply guys, i guess i will call and ask for customer loyalty and rant about them not giving me the $20 data plan...!!