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Well with all the hype going on about custom (and sometimes stock) firmwares. I thought I would start a discussion and Perhaps a poll to see if you are using stock or custom ROMs.
As for my 2 cents: Samsung makes great hardware (at least to my experience) but sinks it down to sleep with the fishies with poor software support including bad very bad software suites (like Kies or Media studio the latter which installed a nasty rootkit on my laptop believe it or not for DRM), prematurely axing support to its newly launched devices (I remember hacking my samsung MP3 with korean firmware as I was really angry at samsung for axing the device 2 months after its release whats up with that ).
So what about you: Do u use custom ROMs or stick to late to almost never released stock ROMs?
Stock rom.
It does what I want. Internet-games-programs. It is fast and good.
I do not see a reason to go with a custom rom.
I use modaco. because its sooooo fast.
Overcome. Hands down the best rom/kernel IMHO.
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okay ... dumb question ... i've just ordered a Tab from T-Mobile, should have it Monday or Tuesday, so ... just what is a custom ROM/Kernal going to do for me?
Thanks,
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Im sticking with stock atm...
As posted above, it does what i want.
Im on Overcome 1.3, undervolted, not overclocked
what it does for you is it removes bloatware, includes fixes to known bugs that samsung has not addressed with a proper firmware update, allows for overclocking and undervolting if you're into that, formats the file system to EXT4 making IO faster, installs a full backup and restore facility from recovery, and provides better battery life*
quadrant score from original firmware: 1000-1200
quadrant score from Overcome 1.3 no overclock: 1690
so yeah, custom IS better than stock until samsung gets all these tweaks into their official ROMs.
(*I don't know how it does that, but it does )
It should be said that in reality the split isn't just between stock and custom, but stock, "unreleased', and custom.
Most of the custom ROMs you can find here are based on Samsung's own unreleased test/dev builds (e.g. MoDaCo is based on JMI, Overcome is based on JMK). Even in their "raw" form, these unreleased ROMs are far better than those that actually ship on the device (BEWARE LOCKED BOOTLOADERS IF YOU ARE THINKING OF FLASHING ONE!!!).
If you take say Rotohammers build, it is stock JMI (JMK now?), without the locked bootloaders and pre-rooted. MoDaCo and Overcome go quite a bit further as they have completely rebuilt kernels and are tweaked for speed. Then you have Technomancers Gingerbread ROM, which is completely custom and based on CM7 rather than an existing Samsung build.
In my opinion, staying on a shipping Tab ROM means you are not getting as much out of your device as you could. Even the Samsung unreleased dev builds are way better than the shipping ROMs, so I don't know why Samsung haven't actually formally released them.
Regards,
Dave
I user overcome 1.4.4
Its much faster than the stock rom and seems to use less battery power in my particular use case.
Custom, as indicated in my signature. I have a T-Mobile Tab and in stock form, it was extremely slow. It sucked.
chicken roms is better ever
For those who say stock is fine i say you have no idea what you are missing. Try both, then make a decision. Custom all the way baby!
T-Mobile tab running latest Overcome
As a bell mobility tab user, i used the stock one (jj3) i think for about a month.
After that i decided to go with roto jme then jmg and after that went to modaco.
Was on modaco for about the last 3 months and i have decided to flash overcome.
There is a significant speed difference between modaco and overcome. I noticed lag in angry birds seasons with modaco but with overcome, barely any.
I am happy with flashing a custom Rom and would never go back to stock.
If only i could get a copy of the stock Rom just in case of any issues.
Hope that helps.
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The hardware is superb but it's let down badly by Samsung in not keeping it up to date with firmwares.
Using Custom roms solves this and provides an all round quality tablet so, yeah, custom roms for me.
I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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Read the guides before flashing.
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
Tried going back to stock. I could not find the stock firmware that was originally available on the device. All «stock» firmwares in the wild had the same issues as the MoDaCo and Overcome. I was shocked and seriously puzzled!
Went to the repair shop and asked them to flash the device with the original.
- Two days later I was told, that they need some special cable to flash the device, and it's going to take a week to get it from Korea(!).
- One week later I was told, that the device needed motherboard replacement.
- One more week later I got the device.
Now my device has Excellent language support, but still fails to report Neighbouring GSM Cells.
Eventually I installed a Winblows in a VM (Bleh!) to try Kies.
To my greatest surprise after eventually connecting Kies says that my device is 'Not Upgradeable'.
So my adventure with custom firmwares is MOST unfortunate.
My ¢2: new users should NOT replace firmware unless they BADLY need something that SUPPOSEDLY a custom firmware would give.
Lachezarian said:
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
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Can you please elaborate more what do you mean by "hardware support", what would be the difference between "basic stuff" and "excellent"?
AFAIK, the custom ROMS are based on stock ROM, thus I can't understand there will be any difference over hardware support level.
With custom ROMs you are more free!
DarkPal said:
Read the guides before flashing.
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I did. I ended up installing Rotohammer's instead, though. It works fine.
First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
Welcome ..
the 10 post limit is a bummer .. but you'll get there ..
Rom paradise will open soon ..
bellerophon90 said:
First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
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Hi,
Because we all have diffrent opninion about our Sony Xperia SP I would like to do a very small reseach.
With this very easy poll I just want the next question answered:
Are you running official 4.1.2 or 4.3.x?
If you are running a custom ROM (CM, PA or even stockbased) answer Custom ROM..
If you have answerd the question please let me know in a comment:
Tell which one you have chosen (perhaps even the build number of the version you run) and wheter you are happy with it or not!
Thanks!
OP will kickoff:
I have chosen for Stock Sony 4.3.x. I am not that happy with it because it still has a few bugs. I do however am happy because Sony finnaly took the time to update it after delay and more delay. Now we are just waiting for KitKat.
I still choose 4.3 because camera feature and others.
205 fw
I'm running 4.3, without much talk it's just the best choice right now since many bugs have been fixed and it does come with some pretty nice features
I'm in 4.3.... every OS have bugs, but at least with 4.3 you have more features here and there and thats why is better that stay in a old OS version
Also last update just let me little visual bugs (install app bar), GPS (not the big deal) and Wifi (well Wifi range sucks since 4.1)
I am on stock 4.3,and i am happy!
Nearly all bugs are fixed,only ram is failing in some moments
Happy with stock 4.3 latest fw, much better than previous updates. No lag here, so its good for me after all those laggy updates.
I had lag issues with all versions of the stock ROM I've tried. After testing a whole bunch of custom ROMs I've settled on CM 10.1. While it is not exactly cutting edge, it has been out of active development for many months, it is rock solid and stable.
I use stock 4.3 as camera is important to me. I found PA 4.4.4 to be the fastest rom for me, but I want to be able to control ISO manually on my camera. I tried various versions of 4.3 and decided to stick with my carrier version (O2 UK). Once towel rooted and debloated I find it to be very fast and stable. More so than the various deodex stock roms on the forum.
Yea I am also on the .205 4.3 firmware, I am UK customised, one of the last to get it but it is good. I fixed the uninstall glitch with a fixed package installer apk, only issue I have experienced is battery drain due to location services and lower ram (compared with 4.1.2).
I'm using 4.3, with eXistenZ Ultra. Couldn't be happier [emoji1]
Stock 4.1.2 is the best
I'm using stock 4.1.2 with swap on stock kernel
Was on latest stock every time a new firmware was released, then switched to eXistenZ when it seemed like we'd never have KK, but I've never been deceived with either stock firmware or eXistenZ, both have always been very fast and I've never experienced any lag or disconfort on this phone.
EXistenZ is perfect. 4.3 is better than 4.1 imho
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Cyanogenmod 11 by FXP
I personally favours CM 11 because of a few flaws present in the stock ROM. Not to be lying, I really like Sony's UI (framework-res.apk) and some aspects of the stock ROM. As per to my experience, the stock ROM is not that heavily modified as I can somehow use some things that are meant for AOSP-based ROMs, which is a huge plus for me. However, when it comes to support and RAM, it fails to meet my requirement, and that is what forced me to use CM.
classicalpunk said:
Was on latest stock every time a new firmware was released, then switched to eXistenZ when it seemed like we'd never have KK, but I've never been deceived with either stock firmware or eXistenZ, both have always been very fast and I've never experienced any lag or disconfort on this phone.
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Hah, you must be joking...
Gamm86 said:
Hah, you must be joking...
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Nope, I can assure you, maybe I've just been lucky but all of the bugs and lags that have been blamed on it ? I've never had them. The only bad point for me is the pretty average camera.
I'm on stock 4.3 (.205 fw). Best I've experience by far, both feature-wise and usability. RAm management could be better though.
Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
Custom roms give you more performance. Stock roms tend to lag here and there, from what I saw in rom reviews.
If you want a minimalist rom, go for CM12 or Slim roms. They have very few features.
If you want lots of features, go for AICP or Resurrection Remix. These two combine the most popular features from other roms (I personally use Resurrection Remix).
And there are the GPE roms. I don't know how GPE 5.1 is, but on 5.0 the rom was rock solid and everything worked.
I can't say anythinv about stock touchwiz because, since I changed I never went back
Spoorman88 said:
Hi All,
I have had my Galaxy S 4 (I9505) for a while now but it is still running android 4.3.
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
I want to flash a new rom onto it (I have done this in the past with a samsung tablet)
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
Thanks for any help and advice.
Daniel
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Try a custom S6 Touchwiz ROM for your phone model - you'll be pleasantly surprised by the new look, feel and performance. I know I am!
I tried CM but not such a big fan... Experiment a bit until you find what you were ALWAYS looking for!
You try to consider CM 12.1 or GPE Roms. The major disadvantage is the camera quality and some multitasking features on TW, but it's hella fast and smooth.
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Roms
I would recommend Cyanogenmod but sometimes it comes with some problems. Check out first which is the stable version for s4.
Also, I would recommend the WickedRom which is great and great performance. And the WanamLite Rom is amazing if you would like to tune your mobile , for example gpu or cpu in higher frequencies or even set custom gestures and etc.( but remember to be careful with those why you might break your phone
Spoorman88 said:
I was hoping to update it to 5.0.1 but when I plugged it into my PC, Kies said 'This device is unsupported'
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it's like you have already a custom rom, or a rooted & modified stock rom !.
Spoorman88 said:
I was just wanting some feedback as to what is regarded as a good rom for it these days. Should I go a standard stock rom from sammobile or are there custom roms out there that perform better?
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go for Resurrection Remix like said: GDReaper, or may be BlissPOP ( with terrible battery drain for me).
I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
skoey said:
I tried just the straight CM 12 rom and it was okay, but once I put on the one of the Optimized CM 12.1 roms I got better battery life and faster performance, but also lost a few features, got a few bugs, but so far so good. It really depends what you want.
If you are willing to have a few crashes, bugs you can put on the newest rom builds, but if you want stable, then going for the older well established ones may be a better option.
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I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
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I have to correct you here buddy It's almost always better to pick the latest CM build. Because it's a work in progress, every new build has a lot fixes.
I'm curious though to what bugs you are referring to. I used it pretty long and I found it almost to be bugfree. Besides the obvious difficulty's with bluetooth.
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Hey Lenny, the official CM builds I have never had an issue with (except nightlies of course) however when we get into the custom ROM world such as Slimroms, modified CM builds etc I do tend to hit a few bugs, such as crashes of apps, however often those builds then become stable.
Hope that makes more sense?
The only good advice is to just use stock roms. It's stable, no bugs, no issues. The only thing that pisses you off is the laggggggg!
Hi I have an SM-T230NU and it seems super slow.
I know its somewhat old but I was hoping there might be a rom or kernel around that would help to speed it up.
I looked around and saw that there are CM roms for this and some kernels but really there are so many that I have no idea what to get.
I dont care how up to date the rom is, im looking for something snappier than stock, and preferably stable. Does such a thing exist or should I just wipe it and call it a day?
Every rom is pretty much same as stock rom. Biggest difference is deodexed and stuff like that. You probably won't gain any real performance increase with any rom.(You might get a little boost). Also I think most kernels currently have battery drain issue. And CM rom's developer is a bit confused about what CM rom means(his version is stock rom with CM apps.) All actual custom roms aren't usable or even bootable.
I believe the best choice for rom is the one with least pre-installed stuff. I prefer https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-4/development/rom-prism-barebone-v1-t2991013 v4.0s