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System Update 1.84.708.1 CL322105

First things first, HTC Desire Z, I am in New Zealand on the Vodafone network in case that makes a difference and running bog standard Sense UI with no mods or ROMs or anything like that.
I have done a search and can't find anything similar anywhere except some asian sites, and I suspect (but hope it isn't) because the phone came from Hong Kong.
Ok, last night an update came through to my phone with the above code, I have lodged a query with HTC but no response as yet and figured you guys may have a better/quicker fix.
Essentially since the update came through the phone has been very slow and glitchy... stalls on background screen before loading app buttons, widgets, menus everything.
So I guess I want to know A: is this a legit update or is it some sort of hack?
and B: can I revert somehow to the last/correct version or am I going to need to install a ROM and start from scratch?
I appreciate your help and if you need any more info just ask.
cheers

Tis legit. HTC seem to be rolling the update worldwide, but very slowly. My dad got it in the UK last Tuesday, I'm still waiting.
His phone seems to be ok. If you're still having problems, try hard reset?

Cheers dude, ok at least that is one less thing to worry about
might give a hard reset a go

I've heard that once you do a update its always good to do a factory reset its like a pc you'll need to give it a good cleaning some time LOL try that
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Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?

hogg2500 said:
Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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The canadian desire z is still at 1.34, afaik it hasn't had any updates at all
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hogg2500 said:
Why does the Desire-Z keep getting updates and the G2 has only gotten 1 update?
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You'll find that if its provided through a carrier, they'll handle the software updates after HTC issues them to ensure their "value added software" or "crap" is loaded on it.
Saying that, mine is a UK SIM free from HTC and I still haven't got the 1.8x.xxx.x update, I'm at 1.72

Heya, I also have the Desire Z, bought from Hong Kong, use on Vodafone, live in Wellington NZ, and also did the update this morning.
Haven't noticed my phone running any slower yet but keen to see the improvements touted though. So far just seen little UI cosmetic changes.
Be sure to go into accounts and redo your sync settings, it put stocks and weather back to real time sync on mine...turned them off straight away.

AHHHHH that could have something to do with the hanging issue. I did a hard reset and initially it seemed better but then once I had re-instated my backed up data, contacts etc, (especially after I shut off the HTC messaging app, and re-synched my google accounts for some reason) it started hanging again.
Maybe the stocks (which I have banished) is trying to sync in the background somewhere? *wanders off to see*
It is a good sign that it is working on other DZ's, main issue seems to be on keyboard open/close events... so might just be incompatiblility with an app I'm running... god I hope it isn't Handcent

Ok, update time, redone the sync settings, removed anything that has been added in the last week or so in case I just didn't notice (unlikely but ???) the hanging problem.
oefox are you using Handcent for your messaging or the standard messaging app? i have removed it and that seems to have made a slight improvement although only very slight... this is driving me mad... may have to try another hard reset tonight and rebuild the data only and start again with apps.
Fake edit: HTC got back to me "try soft reset, hard reset... sorry can't help as phone is HK build, we have passed your query to them... they will be in touch" We shall see?
Actual Edit: Also seems to be destroying battery life all of a sudden, and it seems to think it has been off the charger for 22 minutes... which is odd as it came off the car charger 5 hours ago... hmmm.. definite issues here... looks like an actual rebuild may have to happen :/

You could try an app like Watchdog Lite from the Android Market to see if there is a process gobbling up your CPU cycles? It may be the cause of what's slowing the phone and draining your battery...
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Thanks for that, I have installed Watchdog Lite, removed a couple of apps that I thought might be a little bit problematic and I will stop playing with it for the day and how the battery reacts to "normal" use i.e. not constantly setting/resetting loading/unloading/deleting/syncing/unsyncing stuff lol... still seems to hang and whatnot though but we shall see.
If that doesn't help I will try a fresh hard reset and build from scratch (not from backup) and see if that helps :/

Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.

oefox said:
Call me uninspiring but I really like the default email and messaging. I have found after playing with it for a couple of days now that it will sometimes hang for a couple of seconds when returning to the home screen, shows the background but no icons for a few seconds.
On the plus side my wifi seems to have improved stability somewhat.
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I did upgrade the firmware, but I didnt notice any improvement.
I mean everything is just fine
I thought that it would upgrade it to Gingerbread and Sense 3.0
I would be nice to have that version
Cheers

I have an HK Desire Z as well, and have experienced the exact same problem since the system update. I have not tried a hard reset because I'd rather not spend the time, but the home screen "blank and reload" issue is quite aggravating. I may have no other choice but to reset.
I will try waiting a couple days to see if somebody posts an easier fix.

Aha if you have a G2 wait till T-mobile gives it to us... we will be getting gingerbread
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Ok, good to see it isn't just me, it is definitely an issue and the reset doesn't seem to help much so if you havn't already done it don't bother localhost21. however I think I have found the main culprit and it seems to be the Google Maps updates that are causing the majority of the hanging etc.
if you remove the updates, i.e. go back to the standard version that came on the phone and it seems to make quite a difference so try that.
Unfortunately as i use the navigation function on maps quite a bit I kinda need to keep it so a bit of a catch 22. If you don't really need it though that should solve most of the problem... if any other fixes arrive let me know
Hopefully vodafone NZ give us the Gingerbread upgrade, or google brings navigation out of beta because it really is very good.
Edit: Still hangs, I have become a habitual killer of tasks which is nearly as annoying as the hanging, esp. if you have to open the task manager after it has hung, and it seems the processes causing the hang won't stay dead (auto-killed etc) *goes hunting for basic, stable, rom*

I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?

I have a HTC Desire Z on the 2Degrees Network. I'm running Android version 2.2.1 Build numner is 1.84.708.1 CL322105 can I get an upgrade? Vheers.

oefox said:
I encountered a new problem in that my notification sounds seem to randomly choose what to play when I recieve sms/calls so I did a hard reset but I still have that issue.
It also still hangs on the home screen if the k/b is open so hard reset doesn't fix this problem so I want to try a new rom
Has anyone done a root/flash yet with a HK Z?
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What do you mean? I have HK DZ.
I rooted it. But I had to downgrade it to ROM 1.34.xx.
As I understand, there is no way atm to root from ROM 1.84.xx

twlauncher crashes

Hi guys,
I get crashes of twlauncher when i try to navigate back to the home screen. The phone will kind of lockup for a second or two before showing the error. The home screen will then kind of lag before widgets and shortcuts load up again.
It occurs rarely, probably only getting it once or twice a day on average, but it still gets annoying, and theres no fixed way of replicating the problem.
Anybody have any idea what's going on? Forgive me for lack of info as this is actually my first android phone! My kernel version is still XWKDD (baseband XXKDH). I heard theres an update available, wondering if anyone had it fixed through updating.

looking at the problems that kdd have had id say best bet is for you to update your firmware, i had the kdd build on mine and it also had problems ( os usage ) now that i have updated its fixed, so id say just update and report back if it is doing it.
P.S update using odin not kies, kies does not recognise the update. just to save u some time

a factory reset might also help, I had similar problems with the old firmware, a factory reset somehow fixed it and never came back to me
Haven't done the firmware update (gonna do it tonight )

thanks for the input guys. will report back if it happens again.

there is still a few bugs in it. im running KE7 and if you rotate the screen in landscape mode you get a graphics glitch. maybe sorted for the next version of launcher pro

I think its a gingerbread problem with memory management as the nexus one's have been doing this since gingerbread, with all launchers. Its really annoying.

SOD - Sleep of death problem

I have a problem with Sleep of Death in WinMo. When i put my Mini in sleep mode and I'm trying to wake it up - nothing happens. Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?

Hello, did you manage to resolve your problem? I just started having the same problem. Hard reset did not help. I am going to reload latest official ROM.

I wait for your expressions after reloading ROM. I've hard reseted WinMo and even in Android - nothing happens. I'll reflash ROM after work.

I reaolved the problem on my mini by disabling htc lockscreen.
if u search how to disable it u will find it

PeGie: I re-loaded the latest shipped ROM (1.36). It works (so far). I'll add additional software one by one to see if there is some relation.
bruce2728: Thank you for the tip. However, I cannot disable it. I am using the device also for company e-mail synchronizing by using ActiveSync. The company policies force to use the screen lock and I am not able to change it.

ace960 said:
PeGie: I re-loaded the latest shipped ROM (1.36). It works (so far). I'll add additional software one by one to see if there is some relation.
bruce2728: Thank you for the tip. However, I cannot disable it. I am using the device also for company e-mail synchronizing by using ActiveSync. The company policies force to use the screen lock and I am not able to change it.
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if you disable htc lockscreen in the registry it defaults to the windows 6.5 one, so you will still have a screen lock
edit: forget lockscreen it happened again after a few hours

Shake'n'Wake
Have you try the Shake'n'Wake application?

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Have you try the Shake'n'Wake application?
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Seems to work but only a temporary solution.
I think the driver that controls the power button goes to sleep when phone in standby
I'll investigate tonight and report back if I have any succes

Guys, thanks for help. I tried today to turn off lockscreen, but it doesen't worked. I'll try to figure it out tommorow. I'm waiting for results of investigation of Sleep of death.

I uninstalled CleanRAM first and hard reset and I have no more problem SOD
(last 10 hours is normal) I do not know if I will again have the same problem, now works ok
HTC HD mini German ROM: 1.41.166.1

I mentioned that hard reset did not help. That may not actually be true. When I did hard reset then I immediatelly installed all my applicatiosn and changed all the settings I used to change. Some of the software or config change may cause the problem. However, it is strange that it began just few days ago. I was using the device almost 1 year without this problem.
Anyway, as I mentioned before, I re-loaded the 1.36 ROM today. Then I left all settings at defaults. I did not install any application. It is working correctly so far. I'll add app/config change one by one to track the root cause. It will take some time of monitoring but I need to identify the cause. My suspect #1 is my company security policy. That would explain the problem appearance beginning.
I already had some problem caused probably by my company security settings.

ace960 said:
However, it is strange that it began just few days ago.
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and to me it's strange because the last few days, so to say I did not use mobile phones, nothing new installed or changed settings.

I have this problem too. Since yesterday - started from failing to wake me in the morning. It's kind of weird, all of the sudden phone stopped to work correctly.
At last (judging by more people having problem as well) is not the hardware problem.
Anyone has any idea: this problem was known before, or it started in last few days?

I'm also having this problem. I've changed nothing on my phone since months and since yesterday it has this problem. I'm thinking of sending it for repair and wait what they will say about it.

I was using my HD mini for 10 months without problems. But today I was faced the same problem as you mentioned. I removed my battery and left my HD mini without battery for ~30 minutes. Then I put battery back and turn on the phone and everything works now ...

It sound really weird that this problem is popping out suddenly to a number of users, while before there was no symptom.. it would seem as crazy as a time-driven issue or something..
Before reading here, my 1st step would have been removal of lockscreen, then 2nd one going back to clean original installation, but looks like those moves are not of help..
Fact is that the only new software i installed is bsb tweaks whose changes may affect registry and corrupt system configurations.. do you all guys have bsb installed?
Let's try to figure this out together, missed wakeup and calls are really annoying, as well as removing the battery to make a phone call...

No, I don't have bsb.
And people are using bsb without much problem for the last year.
Some kind of millennium bug? Someone programmed end of the world in our phones?

Brighty1982 said:
No, I don't have bsb.
And people are using bsb without much problem for the last year.
Some kind of millennium bug? Someone programmed end of the world in our phones?
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Next frontier of marketing development, a built-in countdown ticking for a faster & continuous phone replacement...

i don't have bsb on my mini

I do not have BSB installed (actually, I have idea what it is). My Mini is stable 16 hours after ROM reload. It survived the night! I believe hard-reset would help too. I'll re-test hard-reset if I see the problem again after some app/cfg install/change.
My next step is to install HTC updates:
PHO03869.exe
PHO03880.exe
_HTC HD Mini_PHO03611.exe
Then I will install/configure (not ordered):
home WiFi - hidden SSID, WPA-PSK, AES, ASCII key
CorePlayer v1.3.6 Build 7427 - directdraw output
TomTom 7.916.9192 QVGA with one map
ActiveSync - for company e-mail
IMAP e-mail - for Gmail account
turned off HTC Sense
turnd off weather (Application Data\HTC\databases -> deleted the file forecast_cache.db, restarted Sense (uncheck/check in today settings)) - this is sometimes required to stop the weather to be updated from web
system settings change - bluetooth, regional settings, etc.

Super lagging & freezing after newest fw upgrade

My S10+ becomes super lagging and sometimes freezing after newest fw upgrade (G975FXXU1ASE5) on May 22. Anyone having the same problem?

First thing i'd try if it was mine, if you haven't already, is a factory reset. Between Googles backup and Samsungs backup you can get it pretty much back the way you had it before resetting. I always make sure to do a fresh backup using both Google and Samsung first. Then Factory reset. Full restore using google when system asks which backup you want to use, use the latest one you just made of course, then restart and do the Samsung restore through Samsung cloud on top of Googles. I usually get all apps and Data restored without missing much. Home screens and widgets are restored. It's almost like i didn't do a reset at all. If it's still Laggy, then factory reset again and don't restore it. See how it works then. That way you're not restoring any App or setting that could've been causing your issue. It looks like you've been around here about 10 years so this all may be nothing new to you, but this is how i would do it.

Factory reset doesn't seem to help according to reports about rhis update.

Okay well flash in Odin and use CSC to perform a full wipe on the device... See if you still have the same issue. Consider Frija or Samfirm

People report it's something to do with the WiFi drivers, try switching it off and use mobile data to see if it persists

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First thing i'd try if it was mine, if you haven't already, is a factory reset. Between Googles backup and Samsungs backup you can get it pretty much back the way you had it before resetting. I always make sure to do a fresh backup using both Google and Samsung first. Then Factory reset. Full restore using google when system asks which backup you want to use, use the latest one you just made of course, then restart and do the Samsung restore through Samsung cloud on top of Googles. I usually get all apps and Data restored without missing much. Home screens and widgets are restored. It's almost like i didn't do a reset at all. If it's still Laggy, then factory reset again and don't restore it. See how it works then. That way you're not restoring any App or setting that could've been causing your issue. It looks like you've been around here about 10 years so this all may be nothing new to you, but this is how i would do it.
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i dont really want to use the factory reset option because you wont know which app causing the problem.
im trying disabling app by app. so far i guess theres also something wrong with the fingerprint driver. i have a feeling the lagging always starts with fingerprint then it causes the whole system lagging and freezing.
maybe the optimize battery usage feature is way too aggressive? it freezes the fingerprint service while system tries to wake it up then it causes an endless loop and end up with a memory leak?? just blindly guessing so pls correct me if am wrong.

alex.do said:
My S10+ becomes super lagging and sometimes freezing after newest fw upgrade (G975FXXU1ASE5) on May 22. Anyone having the same problem?
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Workaround for this is to switch off WiFi as there is some problems with the WiFi certificates.
Use Mobile data for the internet connection and you will not face any laggyness or issues.
I have already talked about this issues, https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/update-exynos-model-bugs-t3934200

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People report it's something to do with the WiFi drivers, try switching it off and use mobile data to see if it persists
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Nitin5556 said:
Workaround for this is to switch off WiFi as there is some problems with the WiFi certificates.
Use Mobile data for the internet connection and you will not face any laggyness or issues.
I have already talked about this issues, https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/update-exynos-model-bugs-t3934200
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Thanks all!! Looks like disabling wifi works. but i still need to disable fingerprint unlock too as like i said its causing too much laggggggg.

Using for 2 days wifi all the time, and zero issues, phone faster than ever.

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Using for 2 days wifi all the time, and zero issues, phone faster than ever.
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can you try leaving wifi on but not using wifi (not connect to any networks) and leave it for some time.? i think it has something to do with wifi when its not in use.

alex.do said:
can you try leaving wifi on but not using wifi (not connect to any networks) and leave it for some time.? i think it has something to do with wifi when its not in use.
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It was like that plenty of time, just for test i forgot my work wifi network and 3 hours passes and still works perfect.
BTW people with problem, do you remember in developer options if there was before this update option to enable hardware acceleration for modem?
Could you for test try disable that option and reboot phone, or enable if it was disabled...just a hunch..

I had troubles with google app not responding at all and whole system became extremely laggy. Disabling bixby all together fixed problem. Now phone feels smooth and responsive even battery life has improved.

I ve read on sammobile that a new update rolls out to fix the bugs. So you better check for OTA. I am still on april

Gogolakis said:
I ve read on sammobile that a new update rolls out to fix the bugs. So you better check for OTA. I am still on april
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Samsung need sort there **** out , Switzerland was first to get may update they are the first to get the supposedly fixed ASE6
And if all is good will hopefully roll out further, UK BTU on ASD6 April secueity looks like may update in June then [emoji1787][emoji849]
Looking forward to the improved night mode with ultra wide angle
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the new fw (AES6) rolls out to my phone today. and looks like they got it fixed. no more lag & freeze so far.

I was hesitant about applying the new update for the May patch because of all the issues everybody with reporting. I've had this update applied for about 4 hours now and so far there's no issues at all. I wonder if it's affecting every device or just a few. Anyone know if the updated fix has rolled out to unlocked Canadian devices?

After the New Update Exynos Model (BUGS)

Hello Guys,
I am from India, I got the latest update attached screenshot.
I am facing few issues:-
The phone has become laggy in some departments such as:
1. The fingerprint mark stays on the screen after the screen unlocks.
2. Even after pressing the power button screen doesn't lock. The screen does black out but when I double tab on the screen it directly takes me to the home screen without showing the lockscree first. I am not using Google trusted location or devices to unlock without taking my fingerprint or face recognition.
3. When I try to dial a number it doesn't call at a single go, after pressing multiple times it calls the person whom I am trying to call. It looks very choppy as if the system responding to my commands little later.
4. Whenever I am trying to take the screenshot it doesn't take at a single go, after pressing multiple times the system recognises I am trying to take the screenshot and respond little later.
All the apps are working fine without any lags but the above said things are bothering me a lot.
I hope someone from XDA can assist me with this.
P.S.: I have tried to clear the cache from the boot screen. Also did a test on graphics from the same menu.
****Update v1****
I have got something to support my comments!
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/27/latest-galaxy-s10-update-has-some-serious-bugs/amp/
*****Update v2****
Switch off your WiFi, your phone will start behaving normal you will not face this problem in Mobile data usage.
Credit goes to @Whiskey103

None of these problems here. All that tested and works fine. Phone is super fast after update. Oh and i didnt format the phone after update

klemen241 said:
None of these problems here. All that tested and works fine. Phone is super fast after update
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Thanks for your reply! I hope somebody facing similar problems has overcome and provide suggestions.
But Sammobile blog has also confirmed these issues.

II havent faced any of these issues post update.
Did you try doing a factory reset? If not, try the same if its not too much of an issue for you.

I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.

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II havent faced any of these issues post update.
Did you try doing a factory reset? If not, try the same if its not too much of an issue for you.
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No I didn't do factory reset as I have checked from other forums that factory reset is not helping, the new update is broken.

Whiskey103 said:
I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.
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Wow let me try this, shall update you soon.

Whiskey103 said:
I have the same but I updated today over mobile data.
Came home and it started to behave like described above.
So I figured it is something with the updated WiFi drivers.
Switched off Wi-Fi and all seems fine now.
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Wow let me try this, shall update you soon.
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Yes this trick is working.
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Also one more question I don't know if it's my phone or everyone is facing this issue. Whenever I switch on VoLTE calls (Screenshot Attached) my phone temperature increases and battery drains.

Nitin5556 said:
No I didn't do factory reset as I have checked from other forums that factory reset is not helping, the new update is broken.
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Not true, its a good update and everything butterysmooth here. Did factory reset after the update though because of the size of the update.

gee2012 said:
Not true, its a good update and everything butterysmooth here. Did factory reset after the update though because of the size of the update.
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Everyone is not facing this issue, some of them are facing!
Are you using data over WiFi or Mobile data?

Nitin5556 said:
Hello Guys,
I am from India, I got the latest update attached screenshot.
I am facing few issues:-
The phone has become laggy in some departments such as:
1. The fingerprint mark stays on the screen after the screen unlocks.
2. Even after pressing the power button screen doesn't lock. The screen does black out but when I double tab on the screen it directly takes me to the home screen without showing the lockscree first. I am not using Google trusted location or devices to unlock without taking my fingerprint or face recognition.
3. When I try to dial a number it doesn't call at a single go, after pressing multiple times it calls the person whom I am trying to call. It looks very choppy as if the system responding to my commands little later.
4. Whenever I am trying to take the screenshot it doesn't take at a single go, after pressing multiple times the system recognises I am trying to take the screenshot and respond little later.
All the apps are working fine without any lags but the above said things are bothering me a lot.
I hope someone from XDA can assist me with this.
P.S.: I have tried to clear the cache from the boot screen. Also did a test on graphics from the same menu.
****Update v1****
I have got something to support my comments!
https://www.sammobile.com/2019/05/27/latest-galaxy-s10-update-has-some-serious-bugs/amp/
*****Update v2****
Switch off your WiFi, your phone will start behaving normal you will not face this problem in Mobile data usage.
Credit goes to @Whiskey103
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Mine fingerprints stopped all together..Started to get error that something is wrong with sensor..Went to service centre..they downgraded to april..they conf that some issue in may update..Hope samsung fixes asap..

cbotadra said:
Mine fingerprints stopped all together..Started to get error that something is wrong with sensor..Went to service centre..they downgraded to april..they conf that some issue in may update..Hope samsung fixes asap..
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Yes the problem is there in the May update.
Samsung should do something about this.

Nitin5556 said:
Everyone is not facing this issue, some of them are facing!
Are you using data over WiFi or Mobile data?
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Both, but i flashed the rom with Odin. I don`t realy like OTA`s tbh.

gee2012 said:
Both, but i flashed the rom with Odin. I don`t realy like OTA`s tbh.
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So, you're saying only the ppl that took the OTA are facing the issues? In that case i will probably try that then if the bug returns for me.
For now after switching WiFi On/Off for me it is gone.
Seen reports that plugging in the charger does the same.
Weird stuff indeed.
Also now i see a fellow Dutch, you by any change using Rabobank stuff (Wallet/App) with tripped KNOX and have no problems with it?
#sorryforofftopic

Whiskey103 said:
So, you're saying only the ppl that took the OTA are facing the issues? In that case i will probably try that then if the bug returns for me.
For now after switching WiFi On/Off for me it is gone.
Seen reports that plugging in the charger does the same.
Weird stuff indeed.
Also now i see a fellow Dutch, you by any change using Rabobank stuff (Wallet/App) with tripped KNOX and have no problems with it?
#sorryforofftopic
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No, its possible that some users who do flash a rom with Odin could face some issues too but i personally don`t. I`am using the ABN bank app and i haven`t rooted for a long time now. I used to do it because of theming and getting updates/upgrades but nowadays i personaly don`t see a reason anymore to root anymore. So i can`t help you with your question.

I happened to flash "ASE5" build two ways :
1. First using ODIN 2 days back . Did a factory reset ,erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced -> None.
2. Went back to previous "ASD5" build, downloaded the "ASE5 OTA" update and installed. Did a factory reset, erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced so far -> None.
*One glitch I'm noticing from the beginning with "ASE5" :
When I click on my apps & games(playstore app>drop down menu on the left), it freezes for a split second while it takes into the main page. With all my effort, I could not fix it. (App cache cleaning only temporarily fixes this).

Virgo_Guy said:
I happened to flash "ASE5" build two ways :
1. First using ODIN 2 days back . Did a factory reset ,erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced -> None.
2. Went back to previous "ASD5" build, downloaded the "ASE5 OTA" update and installed. Did a factory reset, erased cache in recovery, reinstalled all apps & after setting them up:-
issues faced so far -> None.
*One glitch I'm noticing from the beginning with "ASE5" :
When I click on my apps & games(playstore app>drop down menu on the left), it freezes for a split second while it takes into the main page. With all my effort, I could not fix it. (App cache cleaning only temporarily fixes this).
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A split second delay bothers you? What apps are running in the background? Do you have the FaceBook app installed? How did you set your animations?

gee2012 said:
A split second delay bothers you? What apps are running in the background? Do you have the FaceBook app installed? How did you set your animations?
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No it does not "bother"but is a step back in smoothness if that counts. It's a "difference" that I noticed since I was testing both builds back and forth for a comparison. Rest be assured that it's not related to apps installed and animations set.

Virgo_Guy said:
No it does not "bother"but is a step back in smoothness if that counts. It's a "difference" that I noticed since I was testing both builds back and forth for a comparison. Rest be assured that it's not related to apps installed and animations set.
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I have my animations set to 1,0 and i don`t have a delay, on 0,5 however there is a slight delay.

gee2012 said:
I have my animations set to 1,0 and i don`t have a delay, on 0,5 however there is a slight delay.
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Erase playstore cache and you won't even notice it for a while only to re-appear after sometime.
"Less noticiable" and "very much noticiable" in my usage in 1x & .5x respectively. In ASD5 build, this transition slips like a soap.