Hi all,
I'm having this strange issue with my Fascinate on Verizon. My phone boots as normal, runs as normal for the whole day, and then all of a sudden I'll go to wake it, and it'll be off. I'll power it back on and it flashes an empty battery screen. The screen doesn't stay on for long, and then it shuts off again. The battery is definitely charged. Any ideas? Is it a bad battery?
Also, if I remove the battery and hold the power button, and then put it back in, it turns back on as normal.
Are you doing any over/underclocking or messing with voltages? Or any kind of task killer type stuff... only thing I can think of off the top of my head
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Are you doing any over/underclocking or messing with voltages? Or any kind of task killer type stuff... only thing I can think of off the top of my head
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None. It happened on stock as well. There is a thread on it already and it seems nothing came of it other than faulty hardware. It doesn't happen frequently so I guess I can live with it.
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What you're describing sounds exactly like a sleep if death (SOD). I believe that's what craw was getting at when asking you about OC/UV. Some apps have been associated with SOD, with 'youmail' being the most notorious. You may want to Google some of the apps you're using to see if they're known culprits, particularly if they're smaller market apps (i.e not popular).
It's totally random when it happens though. And I don't have any apps that are not popular. All of a sudden I'll turn my screen off and it'll happen. It happens maybe once per day. I \never need to plug it in, just pull the battery. No OC or Voltage changes or anything. Totally scratching my head here.
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I got this picture from a thread on RootzWiki that is the same issue I am having. When the phone tries to turn on, this screen flashes (without the turning progress wheel) and just repeats until I pull the battery.
I'd try to run the phone with pretty much no apps on it and see if it happens.
Alternatively you can try to find what step is causing the sod (likely 100 or 200mhz step) and increase the voltage a notch. Or just try to run it with 200mhz as the minimum step. If you run 200 MHz and get a sod then bump voltage up a notch on that step.
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bobloblaw1 said:
I'd try to run the phone with pretty much no apps on it and see if it happens.
Alternatively you can try to find what step is causing the sod (likely 100 or 200mhz step) and increase the voltage a notch. Or just try to run it with 200mhz as the minimum step. If you run 200 MHz and get a sod then bump voltage up a notch on that step.
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That's what I'm trying now. Used to be on 100 MHz minimum. Bumped it to 200. Thanks for the advice
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What's at the bottom of the phone the cpu or radio? Whatever it is it is being taxed like crazy by something when the phone is idling with nothig running, including widgets.
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Same here. After the recent update Im still getting the stuck at 90% indicator, and after I disconnect the phone's bottom will stay hot for the rest of the day... I'm worried it might blow in my pocket.
It's actually below the battery that gets the hottest, so I doubt the battery is in danger of blowing; can't be good for it's longevity though. At least for me it seems to be associated with charging, so actually doesn't seem bad while in pocket.
Seemed to be push exchange email doing it.
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Seemed to be push exchange email doing it.
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Explain? I have push exchange email and see no problems.
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What's at the bottom of the phone the cpu or radio? Whatever it is it is being taxed like crazy by something when the phone is idling with nothig running, including widgets.
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It must be that new 'Kill Switch' that Apple says is in all phones
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It must be that new 'Kill Switch' that Apple says is in all phones
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Can anyone get that to happen? Cuz I can't....
This happened to me last night after rooting my phone. The phone was hot and the battery died on me. I read on another forum someone posted that the exploid executable was still running in the background and you need to kill it manually from the shell or reboot. So that might be the cause of it.
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Can anyone get that to happen? Cuz I can't....
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I can't get it to do that either tried 10.
-McMex
I took mine back on the first day after I bought it when it did that. It was also locking up requiring battery removal 5 times in the first day. The kiosk where I bought it tried to tell me it was the network being overloaded was causing that. I said 'BS', either give me a new phone or a loaner till you get me a replacement, so they gave me a new phone on the 16th.
Have not had any trouble with the new one. Battery lasts three times as long as my evo did.
Well after fully charging and draining my phone about 5 times, I'm seeing that it still didnt last more then 4-5 hours with minimal use. I just went to my closest Verizon store and got a new battery for free. It's only been 4 hours, but my phone isnt as hot on the bottom( by speaker) and its still at 78%, which is much better.
I thought the phone reported in 10% increments :/
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I thought the phone reported in 10% increments :/
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Funny I thought I read 78%... now its says 70%. Maybe it was always 70.
Sry
hey guys, was doing some wifi syncing, went for a shower, came back, screen was off but the battery was at 1% hehe, i plugged the charger in and this is what came up:
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strange right? i then unplugged the charger and put it back in, it was back to normal..
but heres the temps... temps are legit, the phone was cool to the touch (and i know what warm is! )
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I've had this issue too. The other day my phone was at 52degrees whilst charging.
Someone suggested the cases may be to blame. I use a gel skin but have sent for the official case.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117709
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yeah, but the temperatures are cooler than normal? :S, it NEVER hits below 29.0C ...
Today is a hot day, and my phone is at 32 degrees whatsapping online for 20 minutes. But playing games it jumps to 40-45, really painful to receive a call after that. I hope they can lower the CPU speed when it gets hot, that way it won't create as much heat or something. I don't know.
I am having this same issue on my Galaxy Tab
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Today is a hot day, and my phone is at 32 degrees whatsapping online for 20 minutes. But playing games it jumps to 40-45, really painful to receive a call after that. I hope they can lower the CPU speed when it gets hot, that way it won't create as much heat or something. I don't know.
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Painful as in burning your ears or any other issues we should be aware of ? We should issue a warning: "Don't play games when you expect a call" or get yourself a personalized voicemail message: Hi, i'm playing games on my phone right now and my battery temp is >50C, there's no way in hell i will reply to any call
argh, i gotten this popup too when i tried to charge my phone. wasn't doing anything with the phone!
@OP Sorry, out of topic question. What is the widget that monitor your cpu speed+ temperature?
Setcpu I believe.
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@OP Sorry, out of topic question. What is the widget that monitor your cpu speed+ temperature?
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So no go I guess
Try to uninstall Set CPU and see what happens.
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hi guys..just got SGS2 and I have battery overheating problem, I saw a lot links on google with that problem but could not find solution...is there a soultion for this kinda big problem?
It's not the battery..it's the phone and processor overheating, working nonstop due to constant updates of apps, searching for signal and so on. It's like a car revved up on traffic.
Try to find out what's actually running on the phone, you can start by reading battery related threads.
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thank you for your quick tip...for example, all apps are down, i only use browser and after 10 min it is so hot...so there is no any custom rom here that reduces this heat a bit??? seems little bit to much
There has to be something running in the background..could be apps updating, or phone searching for signal(especially if you have wrong modem installed).
I personally check Every apps I installed, and make sure they don't do auto update. Quick check, try to turn off background data, and then auto sync (both in setting). See what happened.
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To my experience
Using wifi with low signal can caused significant battery heat.
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Are you using the phone while it's charging, that tends to heat it also
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hi guys..just got SGS2 and I have battery overheating problem, I saw a lot links on google with that problem but could not find solution...is there a soultion for this kinda big problem?
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Relax, there is nothing wrong with your phone. If you play a game or browse flash powered sites, you can cook eggs on the back of your S2! Talk about multitasking phones, who else can cook you breakfast?
Personally, I reduced drastically the heat/power consumption by rooting the phone and removing over 60mb of crap. Now I run at 160mb of memory for services and my battery life easily doubled. It still heats when I charge it for a while... On my old Palm Pre2, after 2hrs of usage my battery was completely drained with similar heat issues.
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That is a lot of wakelocks that maps is giving you there man!
Thanks, never thought about it... How do I fix this?
First: HOW HOT is Your hot ? (for an Eskimo 15 °C is already very hot)
Second: Leave it as it is. EVERY ELECTRICAL DEVICE gets hot when used. The more the hotter.
E.g. Laptop core i7 CPUs are designed for max. Heat of 105° C and my Vaio runs at 85°C when CPU is at 100%.
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Thanks, never thought about it... How do I fix this?
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I'm gunna guess........ Latitude? Do you have this enabled? It depends on what you are trying to do, about 25% battery in 5 hours running time isn't too bad or anything, just all of those waking events add up. Also it could be that you are out and about and that your WiFi is constantly searching, that would be my other guess. But maps has already admitted to eating 21% of your charge on your third screenshot
Ya, latitude is on.
I noticed that the Android OS usage is pretty high, between 60-90% on xBTx's mostly stock rom with Nubecoders kernel v02.
Anyone seeing high Android OS usage on other ROMs?
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I noticed that the Android OS usage is pretty high, between 60-90% on xBTx's mostly stock rom with Nubecoders kernel v02.
Anyone seeing high Android OS usage on other ROMs?
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What do you think makes your phone work? Take off your OS and see if you can load anything. Would you expect your PC to load a Program for Windows without Windows running? Percentage don't mean crap. It is how many seconds a program runs for. The OS and display will ALWAYS be the highest percentage.
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What do you think makes your phone work? Take off your OS and see if you can load anything. Would you expect your PC to load a Program for Windows without Windows running? Percentage don't mean crap. It is how many seconds a program runs for. The OS and display will ALWAYS be the highest percentage.
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I get your point, but usage was never this high with froyo. It was always around 6%. If you read any of the thread I posted, it's apparently a bug...
And on froyo, Android OS was always below 10%...
Its saying android os is using 90% of the battery power that's been used so far.
Remember how screen on used to be 80% and now since froyo its always single digits?
Ima blame better battery management
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Going theory is that they changed which stat they measured the graphics processor under when GB came out. What used to be considered a display process may now be measured under Android System.
I woudn't worry about the percentages too much, but what I would worry about is why at about the half way mark it looks like your phone never goes into a deep sleep? Either you were using it for six hours straight, or you may have a wake lock there.
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I woudn't worry about the percentages too much, but what I would worry about is why at about the half way mark it looks like your phone never goes into a deep sleep? Either you were using it for six hours straight, or you may have a wake lock there.
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Right on.. it doesn't look like he was using it based on the slope of the battery drain, so I would be looking for an app triggering partial wake-lock. Odds are it's another case of Handcent killing innocent batteries.
This is Ksmullins, posting this for a team member.
"I just finished my test for the Mugen 1950mah (video below), and I have noticed in past chargings that it was faster by a good 15% from when I normally plug in and remove. So I figured it must be because I hit a great UV at 200mhz, -125mv on core and internal, which allows the battery to charge faster given the fact that when charging the phone stays at 200mhz. So providing the cpu with less power will provide the battery more power while charging. IIll be providing proof of this soon."
Video of phone in use with Mugen 1950mah
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You could also do low power mode (charging while phone is off)
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Always had a hunch this was true thanks both of you
Soo ur saying if I charge my phone while at something like 100-200 it will finish charging quicker and my battery will last longer?
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Soo ur saying if I charge my phone while at something like 100-200 it will finish charging quicker and my battery will last longer?
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No, what Im saying is when charging the phone dosnt go into deep sleep, it keeps the cpu at 100mhz on the og epic and 200mhz on the epic touch. So if your UVing tHose steps you will see improved recharge times.
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So do you manually undervolt whenever you plug your phone up to charge? Are you using an app that does it for you and keeps your phone from sleeping?
I have cpu master pro but removed it because it was lagging my phone out.
I UV'd 125mv and it charges noticably faster. But if I UV 150mv it takes 10 minutes of failed boot attempts to finally boot lol.
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