Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!
Erahgon said:
Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!
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This would probably come at the cost of having no replaceable battery and microSD-slot, so I'd rather just get a waterproof case if I really need it to be waterproof.
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This would probably come at the cost of having no replaceable battery and microSD-slot, so I'd rather just get a waterproof case if I really need it to be waterproof.
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you are totally wrong, i think you missed the demo video of galaxy s2 with liquipel. Phone can be made water proof even with removable sd card and battery
here is the demo video
@ op
the technology is not even a year old so i dont think mobile manufacturers will adopt earlier.lets hope we can get it separately for a cheap price
WooooooooW this is amazing
it's a shame that it's only available to US only
Thats really a great share. Hope this comes in India too.
Erahgon said:
Hello people!
So far there have been mixed views about the SGS3. Initially I was a little let down. After thinking about it for sometime, I realized I had bought into the hype that Samsung themselves were responsible for, and that if I looked at it from a "Let's see the spec sheet" point of view, it was a great phone!
One of the features I was expecting was the new water repelling technology which was debuted as CES 2012 : Liquipel, and I thought it could warrant a discussion.
Although it can be applied on after the phone is bought (at a significant price), it is only available for US consumers.
Any thoughts on the technology? Alternatives? Am I the only one who was expecting something of this sort in a pwerful, flagship and moreover - expensive, next generation smartphone?
Cheers!
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Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.
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the technology is not even a year old so i dont think mobile manufacturers will adopt earlier.lets hope we can get it separately for a cheap price
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Rumors has it that the iPhone 5 is getting this. Also I think the Droid Razor MAXX has Moto's own waterproofing method used. Yeah, it's relatively new, but I would have expected the SGS3, what with it being the frontier of tech, to have such implements! But yeah... it is what it is.
miahegypt said:
WooooooooW this is amazing
it's a shame that it's only available to US only
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Thats really a great share. Hope this comes in India too.
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I really hope this tech goes wordwide! It's a real problem for phones. I've had friends with phones suffering from water damage due to sweat (I've had a phone go through this as well)!
SlimJ87D said:
Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.
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I guess from Samsung's standpoint they were just advertising and in essence we tech enthusiasts were the cause of the overhyping. Although their adverts about "separating yourself from the sheep" and such just made already wild imaginations run all the more wilder! I guess I could've phrased the post better, but I wanted to get to the topic fairly quicker!
That's what made me really pull back and realize what a good phone it was at it's projected price-point (I'll save my final verdict when it's in my hands). It made me ask the question: What was I really expecting and what did we get, imagination aside?
SlimJ87D said:
Can I ask you why Samsung is responsible for overhyping their own product? I think it was the fans that totally overhyped it.
Samsung never released or confirmed any kind of rumors. Just wanted to give my two cents on the subject.
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I think they decided to act the exact same way as Apple, knowing how much hype Apple generates like this.
True, they're not directly culpable or anything, but now they're paying for it anyway. (Maybe not; it's too early to tell.)
As to the actual topic, I vowed that my next phone would be waterproof. Not sure how realistic that is, but yeah, waterproofing could've been a real improvement that the fans would've been satisfied with.
Hopefully, by next year (my likely time of upgrade), it would have become standard.
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I think they decided to act the exact same way as Apple, knowing how much hype Apple generates like this.
True, they're not directly culpable or anything, but now they're paying for it anyway. (Maybe not; it's too early to tell.)
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Samsung galaxy s series has matured enough to have its own launch event so nothing wrong about it. ITs the rumor mill which increased the hype, samsung never said it will have a bezeless screen + virtual buttons.(I was dreaming for both of those features after reading it from the net)
The term is hydrophobic ie water repellent. I already use a very hydrophobic coating. What you need is super hydrophobic which I assume is being shown in the vid. Tech been around for 3-4yrs
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Another water test video with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70RMWiavxj0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWSMhacRAs8
It takes about 15 minutes to do. My buddy took his S2 in and got it back within 30 minutes. Check and see if they're local. There's one near Long beach, CA. This way you won't have to send the phone in and be without it for several days. Not to mention saving on shipping.
Coming back to the GS3 side of things, I have seen the new ad and it says 'Shares the warmth of Nature', just after it shows people being splashed with water.
Tried to post the link for youtube, but since am a new member, can't!
But you can search for Samsung Galaxy S III (GT-i9300) TV Commercial on Youtube. It is about 30 seconds in.
While this rumour is being going on, I think this might lead people to get a bit excited and assume that the phone already comes with this.
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Coming back to the post, though.
I believe the Liquipel would be a great product for the phone. However, I am concerned about the Waterproof claim they make. There are a lot of videos out there which show Liquipel failing, mainly because people dumped them in water, to test the claim out.
In those cases, the companies that the phones were bought from did not take any responsibility, and the consumer had to bear the costs themselves.
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I was very pleased to read this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/200000_samsung_glaxy_s_phones_sold_in_south_korea_in_10_days-news-1786.php
Considering the fact that stocks sell off like hot scones in the UK and there are even shortages, and the fact that the device is selling well in the U.S even before carrier-based versions started selling, i see a bright future for the Galaxy S platform.
If in south korea alone it sold 200,000 , and in the UK Clove, Expansys and Handtec had severe shortages untill several days ago, i'm guessing it already sold over 300-350K worldwide.
Again, even before carriers around the world started marketing it.
Now i want to see what happens after carriers around the world start selling it, if these kinds of numbers will continue to flow in, i think it's close to impossible that samsung won't support it for a prolonged period.
Share your 2 cents, i'm having great expectations right now.
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If in north korea alone it sold 200,000 ,
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Thank you, that made my day
^ Yeah, I lol at that one.
But OP, your right. This is Samsung's all out effort to gain marketshare in the smartphone area. They are #2 when it comes to feature phones (dumb phones). However, in smartphone market, they are #4 or 5. In fact, last quarter they LOST market share. Analysts have projected that in a few years, the majority of phones sold will be smartphones, so it is imperative for Samsung to gain market share and win over customers. You can not do that with products that are unsupported. I bet they got a wake up call when HTC came out of no where and gained market share quicker then Samsung did. In fact HTC (which is very small company compared to Samsung), has a greater market share than the big ol Samsung. They know for a fact that with increased relations with developers, that their handsets have gained sales. Samsung created an open source distribution website where source codes for most of their products have been released since April of this year. So that is a good positive step in the right direction. Also, we all know Samsung makes great hardware, however their software side has been less stellar. Its beginning to be changed as more money and resources are pouring into the software side.(Bada, new R&D center in India devoted to software, new emphasis by corporate to focus more money in software etc).
I hope we are right.
As far as I can see, Samsung is winning customers over HTC right now. I am one of those, and I spotted many others in the forums.
IMO the point is that HTC's success has been largely undeserved, but rather based on the efforts of people here on XDA; on the contrary, it looks like they did everything they could to make people run away screaming. Despite all the work that has been done, even developers on XDA have never found a way to get a performance from, say, the Touch HD that could at least be called acceptable, if you look at the specs. Marketing a device as the "ultimate multimedia experience" and then selling it without proper drivers, is just pure BS. And this incredible problem affected an entire range of products for at least two years.
So, I would say, HTC should be paying a much higher price than they are, for their behaviour... we'll see in the next few months. I know I sound harsh but I seriously hope they lose it. Samsung FTW
OP needs to change his topic to something less misleading. When i first glance your "bright spot" made me thought that the new phones have some defect in the screen.
I thought your post was to say that samsung sold many phones with defective "bright spots" on their screens.
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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INeedYourHelp said:
Thank you, that made my day
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Oh my
Fixed, although i'm sure even kim jong ill wouldn't mind a galaxy s.
And now can someone please translate AndroHero's post for me? i'm having trouble trying to discern what language is that.
Anyways, now that samsung is selling masses of their flagship phone, they have to be completely retarded to not support it properly. It would be equevilant to commiting suicide.
Also, it sold a lot on their "home court", if samsung will let even koreans down, their cellular department is going to take a major hit.
AndroHero said:
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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Is that an attempt at trolling? Your post doesn't make "sense" at all, please use the stock home screen.
gabbybob said:
No, it's because you're thick; now trot on son
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Well I must be thick too, cos I also made the same mistake and thought this was a bad news post, and relieved to see it was good news.
Since you are new here, you might try giving people the benefit of the doubt.
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Looks good to me. But I had no issue with the original title either.
TravUK said:
Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
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Should be galaxies?
mickeko said:
Should be galaxies?
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You could be right....
A great copyrighting idea just popped in my head-
Samsung can make a centeral update/app center for galaxy devices.
The name?
Samsung Universe.
samsung
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
tellos said:
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
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Here's the link
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2010/06/ask-korean-news-apple-v-samsung.html
Interesting to read someones opinion, but that's all it is. My other half is Korean, and she, like I work in the electronics industry and we're both intimately aware of how Korean giants like Samsung operate, the key element in the Galaxy S isnt rapid turn around, its a change in corporate policy towards the design of the phone, by involving hundreds of potential users in the development stages.
I also disagree with his premise that the iPhone 4 is a 'great' product. I've had a play with an iPhone 4 and I think it suffers from Form over Function. It's actually a little uncomfortable in the hand. It may be made from glass and steel and look great, but such hard materials with squared off edges and profiles doesn't sit right in your hand.
The objects we most commonly hold in our hands are cups/mugs, pens and computer mice. They're rounded and softened, ok household mugs are ceramic from a practical materials aspect, but even a travel mug has a rubberized grip.
I just don't get the hysteria over the IP4, when I look at it I do see a photogenic object, but I also see a design fail.
Leaving the comfortability issue aside, i'm bothered by the durability aspect.
Using superhardened glass may be good against scratches, but without a shock absorbing frame of some sort, the harder the galss- the more prone to shattering it will be, and harder glass shatters more catastrophically.
"regular" hardness glass usually gets cracks or little shattered points.
Superhardened galss- it's "all or nothing". Either nothing hapeens, or it shatters completely.
Deciding to put the glass ON the frame instead of IN the frame (like previous iPhones) was a much bigger design flaw than the less-round corners IMO.
I'm hearing a lott of buzz about samsung using mostly plastic, and how "inappropreate" it is for a super high-end device, but from a pratical viewpoint-
It's durable, it's cheap and easy to replace it's comfortable, and it doesn't block reception as much as more expensive materials.
Indeed, my BlackBerry is plastic, and that's never been an issue.
It's just been announced that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is to be the official phone for the upcoming Olympic Games in London. There's some speculation that there may be some limited edition phones available.
http://www.newsbroadcast.co.uk/31265/the-samsung-galaxy-s3-revealed-as-the-official-olympic-phone
that has been reported days ago and all the athletes are said to be given free sgs3s'.
wow!
Let's make a petition to get programming into the olympics!
This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
Samsung is smart.
The Smoking Man said:
This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
Samsung is smart.
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yeah you are correct
The Smoking Man said:
This will definitely boost the sales. Alot.
Samsung is smart.
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Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!
Reckless187 said:
Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!
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Their last quarter figures were impressive even without the S3. These upcoming quarter results are going to be ridiculous
yay again samsung are ahead of the pack they will hold best phone of 2012 again
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Reckless187 said:
Samsung definitely have the financial clout to pull something like this off. They'er going to have silly amounts of sales of this phone!
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Yeah. I mean... Even if some people won't have a clue what a Galaxy SIII is, they'll still go and check out the phone simply out of curiousity - due to the massive promotion the phone will have worldwide (mentioned during commercial breaks in bumpers, on billboards, on the news, etc.)
I think Samsung has done this as insurance against Apple.
They know very well that Apple, despite using less powerful hardware, will still be able to amaze the masses and pull off decent sales - just because it'll be an iPhone. Apple at this point doesn't need promotion, since the huge mass of their consumers promotes these products on their own - though they may not know it.
Samsung is quickly rising to the top and to maintain the momentum until the next iPhone launches this Fall, and to maintain the sales of the SIII, Samsung will need something. Considering the Olympics are one of the most watched and discussed events on TV, the SIII will sell on its own.
I think that the iPhone 5 is also one of the reasons why the wireless charger has been delayed till September and why the 64GB versions will be launching later (most probably around the same time). Chances are that Apple will unveil their next device, which too will most likely support wireless charging, in September/October as well.
Htc who lmao
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The Smoking Man said:
Yeah. I mean... Even if some people won't have a clue what a Galaxy SIII is, they'll still go and check out the phone simply out of curiousity - due to the massive promotion the phone will have worldwide (mentioned during commercial breaks in bumpers, on billboards, on the news, etc.)
I think Samsung has done this as insurance against Apple.
They know very well that Apple, despite using less powerful hardware, will still be able to amaze the masses and pull off decent sales - just because it'll be an iPhone. Apple at this point doesn't need promotion, since the huge mass of their consumers promotes these products on their own - though they may not know it.
Samsung is quickly rising to the top and to maintain the momentum until the next iPhone launches this Fall, and to maintain the sales of the SIII, Samsung will need something. Considering the Olympics are one of the most watched and discussed events on TV, the SIII will sell on its own.
I think that the iPhone 5 is also one of the reasons why the wireless charger has been delayed till September and why the 64GB versions will be launching later (most probably around the same time). Chances are that Apple will unveil their next device, which too will most likely support wireless charging, in September/October as well.
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the iphone 5 don't stand a chance against the s3
paintball23456 said:
the iphone 5 don't stand a chance against the s3
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Tell that to the blind idiots who will queue up outside Apple stores a week in advance just to buy one!!!!
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Tell that to the blind idiots who will queue up outside Apple stores a week in advance just to buy one!!!!
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Haha you're right they will where i work there is an apple store like 2 mins away. Anyway i was driving by to go home and i see a long line outside the apple store i was like what the fudge.. People were setting up their tents ffs..
I go home and was on the net i see that the ipad 3 is coming out March 16th which was like two days away.. Bloody hell Apple have brainwashed people with their branding..
I wonder if it was called Strawberry would people buy it maybe Pineapple iPhone 4s i mean no offence or anything i am not hating it's good for apple. I used to own an apple 3gs at the time it was awesome for me i had never seen anything like it it was fun then it was the same thing over again. And their black release first then white was bollox...
Anyway i am not hating on apple nor android or Samsung or any other company for that matter i go for anything that can catch my eyes and interest.. Though i must say i am not a big fan of Blackberry's... I owned one in the past it was eh...
I'm working for the London Olympics, would be good to bag another S3 lol
newalker91 said:
Did none of you watch the launch event? They said this at the very end and had this fancy video for it and everything.
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No why would android lovers watch bull crap?
send from my brain to your con
sean2476 said:
I'm working for the London Olympics, would be good to bag another S3 lol
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Hahaha ask your manager to give you a free s3 or you fire your self
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Don't know how accurate this is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...m-beating-iPhone-4s-4m.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.
Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.
I'm buying it on the release day, but I haven't pre-ordered it.
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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I wonder how many of us have pre-ordered from different places? And not only that, people have pre-ordered both variants just in case of delays, and all memory sizes just in case.
So 9 million could well turn into only an actual 4.5 million phones based on colour alone.
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The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million
Apple could make the most amazing hardware in the world, it'll still be **** because it'll be running IOS.
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Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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LeviathanPT said:
The same can be said about of most of the popular releases, so even the 4million that the iPhone got could easily be 2 million
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Absolutely,that is true.
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
because this forum represents <1% of users. and people come here after release looking for softmods.
vapotrini said:
Wow, some of you really need to relax with the hate.
Honestly, do you want to know what the absolute best scenario is? For Apple to come out and blow the doors off of the GS3. Why? Competition. Without it, we wouldn't even be here to begin with. The SG1 doesn't exist without the I-phone. If Samsung has no competition, why exactly should they strive to improve?? They definitely wouldn't. So stop rooting for either one of them... and start rooting for your pocket.
At the end of the day, neither of them really care about you. So stop "celebrating" like you have something tangible to gain. You don't. You're merely a statistic. End of story.
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agreed.
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like, thumbs up.
you got a point on all your points.
djsaad1 said:
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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It's okay, the US is usually late for the parties anyway...
I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.
djsaad1 said:
First, I think this is a bunch of hype and probably overly exaggerated. If there were 9 million pre orders, wouldn't you expect just a little more people on this forum. Both the htc one x and gs2 forums on xda seemed to be more populated before their releases than this forum. Also, I know I live in the U.S. were the phone technically wasn't announced yet, but I only know of one person maybe two outside of the online forums that even knows about this phone. When the iphone 4s was announced almost everyone I knew was talking about.
On the apple talk, did apple ever have a global release? I am pretty sure apple preorder numbers are only on U.S. based customers but I could be wrong.
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Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.
Intratech said:
Yeah because everybody in the world flocks to XDA.
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No but $800 smartphone only tech addicts buy
MarkieSA said:
Apple must be sitting back watching all of this thinking that they better pull something extraordinary out of the bag. Apple will no doubt be suing the pants off Samsung to coincide with the release of the S3.
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The "pre-orders" are from carriers and resellers and are stretched out over a year. With the SGS2 selling 20MM copies to not have 10MM pre-orders for the SGS3 would be shocking. Samsung UK's said customer pre-orders are "in the thousands." But the UK carriers all confirmed it's the most pre-ordered device they've sold.
To put the SGS2's success and SGS3's potential in perspective, here's some statistics. In 2011 there were 488MM smartphones sold worldwide. Samsung sold 20MM SGS2's. That means the SGS2 made up 4% of 2011 global smartphone sales. There were 54MM iPhone's sold which represents 11% of the market. So 85% of the world bought something other than the two most hyped and recognized smartphones on the market.
And comparing the SGS2 against Samsung's total sales is interesting. They sold 90MM smartphones in 2011. With 20MM SGS2's sold, 78% of the smartphones they sold weren't SGS2s.
If the SGS3 doubles in sales (which is lofty) over the SGS2 it'll still be behind the iPhone (which itself will grow in sales) and have 8% of the market in 2012; meaning 92% of smartphone buyers will buy something other than the SGS3.
Samsung’s numbers are impressive and they and Apple share 90% of mobile device profit between them. But clearly the sun doesn't rise and set based on a single device; no matter how good it is. There's a reason for the Galaxy Y and One V which will outsell the SGS3 and One X by a large margin.
love the S3 But
There is always going to be a debate between apple and samsung, but I for 1 believe in the competition aspect of it also, I just hope that apple comes out with something that is going to challenge samsung and vice a versa the only winners here r us
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Sir-Awesome said:
It IS the most fastest electronic device to be sold in history.
With all the hype with Samsung they will.
And from each generation of the Galaxy S series, they've always gotten significantly better.
Hopefully iPhone 5 doesn't take over, but I know that they won't stand a chance against the S3.
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I find this hard to believe. If a new iPhone is coming out, everyone starts talking about it months before. When a new Samsung phone is coming out, only geeks like us talk about it. I haven't heard any buzz about SGS 3.
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Because its an Iphone? And 13 year old girls tend to talk more than normal people?
I really surprised at this, I thought the iPad/Pad would have been well ahead with "most preorders".
OP has to really be pleased with their first unboxing video on Youtube. What an embarrassment for any company to have this as a first impression. Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePC7cISM7U
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OP has to really be pleased with their first unboxing video on Youtube. What an embarrassment for any company to have this as a first impression. Here is the link: www.youtube.com/watch?v=WePC7cISM7U
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For a $1 I wouldn't complain.
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For a $1 I wouldn't complain.
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The OP group must be really proud of their first impression they are making. They are gonna be the laughing stock across the internet. This launch has been a joke from the start. They will NEVER make it in this cut throat business since they have no business sense to fight back with.
Although I think the comments are a bit harsh. I do think they have valid points. Regardless if it costs these contest winners $1 or not. There moto is never settle. So I would assume this would also carry forward with how there products are packaged and shipped as well. Even from startups like BLU you get a much more polished package. The plastic screen protector that was hanging off the screen once the guy took the bubble wrap off was pretty embarrassing. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And if this is the impression oneplus wants to set its not a good one. The phone itself can only carry so much weight when it comes to polish. There was to be a level of delivery, distribution and packaging that give that all around professional feel.
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Although I think the comments are a bit harsh. I do think they have valid points. Regardless if it costs these contest winners $1 or not. There moto is never settle. So I would assume this would also carry forward with how there products are packaged and shipped as well. Even from startups like BLU you get a much more polished package. The plastic screen protector that was hanging off the screen once the guy took the bubble wrap off was pretty embarrassing. You only get one chance to make a first impression. And if this is the impression oneplus wants to set its not a good one. The phone itself can only carry so much weight when it comes to polish. There was to be a level of delivery, distribution and packaging that give that all around professional feel.
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I am in agreement with you on your comments. They are going to be skewered on sites like XDA. For the most part, the members around here are not a bunch of noobies and notice off the wall crap like this shipping fiasco.
I made my comment about this on the OP forum.
I don't care if it was $1 that unboxing is a bad 1st impression. IMO no reason to not have a decent packaging for your 1st 100 customers.
Even the screen protector didn't look to be on the screen very well.
I know it's a $300 device but after watching that I may just hold off for the Nexus 6.
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I made my comment about this on the OP forum.
I don't care if it was $1 that unboxing is a bad 1st impression. IMO no reason to not have a decent packaging for your 1st 100 customers.
Even the screen protector didn't look to be on the screen very well.
I know it's a $300 device but after watching that I may just hold off for the Nexus 6.
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I also commented on their forums. In fact, I am surprised I haven't been banned like others have for expressing their conflicting opinions or questioning the methods used.
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I also commented on their forums. In fact, I am surprised I haven't been banned like others have for expressing their conflicting opinions or questioning the methods used.
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My enthusiasm has sort of slipped after seeing that boxing. I wonder what other corners were cut. I'm starting to wonder if they're sitting at the kitchen table and putting them together. I guess I'm thinking from a warranty stand point also
Hopefully we will start seeing some full reviews soon.
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My enthusiasm has sort of slipped after seeing that boxing. I wonder what other corners were cut. I'm starting to wonder if they're sitting at the kitchen table and putting them together. I guess I'm thinking from a warranty stand point also
Hopefully we will start seeing some full reviews soon.
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Well, I think we have to throw out the first 100 reviews as these guys are not likely to admit that they got exactly what their $1 purchase is worth.
you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Well, I think we have to throw out the first 100 reviews as these guys are not likely to admit that they got exactly what their $1 purchase is worth.
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I hate to admit it but that thought crossed my mind.
I think there's a Mod here who's getting one soon so that review should be better than some.
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you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Yes I saw the video about getting the charger, headphones, etc at a later date and IMO it would be better to wait and ship them all together.
They knew and planned the contest. They should have had enough stuff for 100 units. For all we know these devices could be in house user devices.
If they're having problems with 100 chargers and accessories, what are they going to do about 100k+ potential buyers?
Bad first impression. To my knowledge nothing was posted previous saying this is how they would be shipped.
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you guys did watch the video right? he said that oneplus said that this is how the smashers will get their devices, and theyll be sent the charger and the rest later since they are not ready. hopefully itll look like this when done -> http://www.gizchina.com/2014/04/28/...ng-pictures-revealed-bonus-64gb-model-images/
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Yes, I did watch the video. Since they had some of this packaging, are you trying to tell me that they did not order more that the dozen or so that got sent out for reviews? This is totally idiotic on OP's part to do something like this. The forums are going nuts about their low quality packaging on the first shipments. How in the world do they think this will not destroy all their bravado about being a Flagship Killer. You can't ship crap like this out and not expect to lose all credibility that they have pompously built up. Absolutely incredible to me that these bozos did this. Sorry if you think that I am being harsh, but sometimes the truth hurts.
well, the first 100...
when the device will be ready for everyone will come with a nice box and everything... if you ask ... why i don't have a invite? the answer is: because you can't understand that this is not the final release, or package or the final battery life, or the final etc....
really stop.... this is a taste of the 1+1... just that, dont be saying "bad impression" if you cant handle this, then wait for 2 months(and buy the "final version")... really im very surprised, this kind of commentary in xda, why??
just wait...
They could have planned his contest a little better, but this doesn't affect how I feel about the phone. Your disappointment over this issue, which doesn't affect anyone other than the 100 that got the phone, just sounds like you're invested too heavily in the hype machine. I'm sure that OP had good intentions with getting these 100 phones to the winners asap since they do need a new phone after smashing their old one. Don't buy it this actually upsets you. It's one more invite for someone else.
Jesus christ.
Some of you people will dig and dig for literally any reason to hate this device. You'll get one soon enough and it'll be fine, just be patient.
This isn't unusual for an advance release. Of course they're usually sent to industry insiders, not end users, so they should have known the unwrapping would have ended up on YouTube. But I don't consider it some big scandal, everyone knows they're pre-release promotional items so the faux outrage seems a bit much.
New devices always have problems when first released.The n4 and n5 for example.
So wait let the hype settle down.
Wait a couple of months then order your one.
Just my 2cents.
Retail packaging will be much better. It will be a finished retail product.
These winners were advanced, before retail packaging was ready. Just wait for the retail unboxing videos. Everyone that reviewed the device has commented about how good the quality is. The retail product will not disappoint. Packaging will be as good as the final product, just like the packaging that was seen in the video with Steve Kondik unboxing the One.
Steve's video is HERE.
Oh come one! How can there be people justifying this BS. Man, they couldn't put 100 units together with their retail package and not even a CHARGER? This is unjustifiable. This company's main marketing will be over social media by its users (evangelists). These first 100 phone should have arrived in a SPECIAL package since they are for the winners of a very much hyped promo (Smash The Past) that asked to destroy $700 devices! This is without mentioning that the first units (pre-production) had defects that were justified because they weren't actual retail but hey considering that this is the only marketing they had they should have released something near perfect.
Guys this company and product are not ready. They couldn't get 100 devices in weeks they won't be able to produce not even 5,000 in 2 months.
Note: I consider my self a supporter of Oneplus since I believe that what they tired to do with a device like this at the right price it commendable but this sucks and you don't have to be a marketing expert to know that this is going wrong.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNCT_fUCeY
I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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I tend to think the Sold Out is artificial, how could they not have been ready for roll out with all the ads and publicity?
Perhaps they're purposely trickling them out, waiting on real world reports, before some battery blow up or other fiasco happens and having to recall millions..
Better safe then sorry, right Samsung, Sony?
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Seriously, how could Google not understand that their products sell? It started with the Nexus 4 and it's been the same EVERY SINGLE RELEASE.
They do this on purpose it seems, because come holiday season, it's magically available again. Plus, the 32gb Silver XL is still available, how is that possible?
Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
ie white casing cracking, black glass being weaker, screens with strange hues, cameras with halos, slower ram, batteries buldging ect..
Black Xl 128 was showing up in stock every 6-7 hrs for 20mins. Then it was Silver Xl 128.. Why not keep allowing preorders and fill orders as they become available?
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Hopefully it's not a bait and switch where their Hardware vendors run out of a certain part and they have to Source it from a different vendor and it's not the same quality as the original.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Really don't think that's the case. It's probably just waiting maybe an extra week for a new shipment from wherever HTC's manufacturing building is located. Don't be fooled, Google isn't building these things in Mountain View, CA, as they'd have you believe.
I'd really like to see the initial numbers from the Nexus 6P last year. How many were ready to go at launch? They have to have these figures.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Google releases batches at a time, I'm convinced of this.
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Unless this in stock tracker is wrong, and I have been watching it since it started tracking and personally checked stock on googles site and confirmed most of the time, youre possibly right
Either that or few come back in stock from cancelled or orders that didnt go through.
http://www.nowinstock.net/electronics/mobilephones/unlocked/googlepixel/
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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NEW IMPROVED PIXEL with 5.7" screen and stylus? hmmmm. before you realize it's too late KA-BOOM!
Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Man everyone is a conspiracy theorist here?
Google never said these phones were made in the USA. It's widely known that HTC was doing the manufacturing. And to be honest compared to the Nexus's this is the first time a lot of my friends have even mentioned a google phone. Most probably don't know what a Nexus is. That + the previous amount of nexus's sold + the Note 7 Fiasco probably put in way more preorders than expected.
I mean iphones have been selling like hotcakes for years and they sell out too.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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Widely known? Where in the official documentation and release presentation was HTC mentioned at all? What about the TV commercial spots, or on pixel.google.com?
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Belimawr said:
the Note 7 will have been a big sales booster, I wouldn't have one if my Note hadn't went back and when talking to EE placing the order the rep said the vast majority of people returning the Note's were taking the Pixel and to a smaller extent the iPhone, so chances are with this Google has just hit a gold mine on the back of Samsung's failure.
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I liked the email I got from O2 telling me to get an xperia for a renowned Sony camera, yet they are in pretty much every phone and the best tend to go to other firms and not the Sony phones.
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While I'm really enjoying the PIxel and it's fast as crap. My wife and I have had Notes since the 2 so yeah pretty much on the same boat. I would have a Note 7 right now if it weren't for the chance of death. Great example too.. Everyone also should say as they are presenting their cameras.. SONY SENSOR. The iphone , pixel, even many Samsung's in the past use them along with most of the phones cameras in the world.
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As in every tech review mentions HTC one way or another as the company that helped manufactured. The way you are saying it every single apple presentation should also say ASSEMBLED BY FOXCONN, or MOST PARTS MADE BY SAMSUNG
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Sorry i'm a little confused here. Foxconn assembled all of apples iphones and ipads too? So what difference is there when someone else assembles google's phone.
BTW https://www.google.com/nexus/6p/ Huawei manufactured the 6p and it's only mentioned in a battery test disclaimer at the bottom of this page in the light letters.
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...26/blackberry-dtek60-price-announcement-specs
Blackberry in their release to the average joes definitely doesn't mention it's made and mostly based off a TCL design.
I'm not saying there is no marketing shadow games going on here but it's an extremely common thing.
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Huawei is plastered on the back of the 6P.
I don't know enough about Blackberry to comment.
The only difference between Apple and Google in this case is that Apple doesn't say that their iPhones are built by Apple...at least I don't think so. They don't mention Foxxcon, but they also don't say they built it themselves.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/26/apple_wait_wait_iphone7plus/
To show google isn't the only one having problems meeting demand.
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Ask a random person who owns an iPhone 6 "hey, do you know who built your phone?" and I guarantee you that they will say "Apple."
The Pixel was engineered/designed by Google while HTC built it. There is nothing wrong with that, but it's just a little bit of false advertising especially since HTC is a known and current phone designer/builder themselves.
Lastly, I'm not talking about the tech sites that review the Pixel. I'm talking about the lack of HTC in the advertisements that joe schmo will see on TV.
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
Anyways, anyone remember the G1? It was the HTC Dream (first phone with Android), it had no HTC logos either. Most it had was T-mobile in front and "with Google" on back.. (I still have mine)
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It's like the Maserati has a Ferrari built engine and is owned by Fiat Chrysler. Why reinvent the wheel, or waste money building wheel making facilities, when you can have an existing manufacturer build them to your specifications. This happens all over the manufacturing world.
LG/Samsung make great screens, Sony makes great camera sensors, Ben & Jerry's make good ice cream..
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What Google is doing would be as if Ben & Jerry claimed that they make the cup which contains the ice cream.
I know that's a horrible analogy, but I thought it was funny.
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Yea it says made in Taiwan in the back, but Samsung has been known to hoard thier screens, especially now with their Note7 troubles. My main reasoning towards moving to a Pixel is its screen vibrancy.
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