Most all directions to installing a custom ROM always start with “be sure to do a nandroid backup.”
So I always do that to the 32 GB microSD card that I have added to my 16 GB Acer Iconia A500 when I install a custom ROM.
I have found that you can backup to the USB port as you do to a microSD card, if you have a flash drive attached to it. It will actually default to going there instead of the microSD card when you have both attached to the tablet at the same time. This must have been discussed before but I missed it.
However, there is one difference in the backups that I can see. The microSD card backup has 10 files in the directory for the backup while the backup on the USB port flash drive only includes 9 files. The file that is missing is the “android_secure.vfat.tar” file, 1.5k in size, and it's not on the USB port flash drive.
I have restored backups from both the USB port flash drive and the microSD card. The USB port flash drive backups appear to work the same as the ones from the microSD card. However, since they are missing a file, they must be missing some user information, but I’m not sure of what.
My question: Is the backup from the USB port drive OK or is there something internally wrong with it since its missing that one file, the android_secure.vfat.tar file?
What does that file do? And is it absolutely necessary for a backup? Can you add the missing information to the tablet afterwards, if any are in fact missing?
Thanks
Redevil06 said:
And is it absolutely necessary for a backup? Can you add the missing information to the tablet afterwards, if any are in fact missing?
Thanks
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1. Backups are not necessary if you like to live dangerously. You only need them if you mess up a rom install, or you can't boot up normally. What do you think?
2. Backups have some tab saving information in them, more specifically your UID number. Without this little number, you'll be in for a long method of restoring an OS if you mess up. If you haven't run a dmesg or used dmesgview to get your current UID, you should do so and write it down somewhere. Never know when you will need it.
3. You can check if your backups work, by just making one, and doing a Restore. Yes, sometimes, recovery backups get corrupted. So you should always check it out.
4. I would never try to transfer 1 file from 1 backup to another. But hey, try it and see if you can recover. Might work. Might not. More than likely you would get something like an MD5 Checksum error. At worst you'll start smelling smoke.
Thanks but does anyone have the answer?
Thanks for the answer but I understand why you make a backup.
It's why is there a difference in the backup files between that places you send the backups to that I'm really curious about.
The microSD card backup is the way that is described as the right way, which I don't disagree with.
It's the backup on the flash drive which is missing the one file that is puzzling.
Is it good? or is it flawed due to the missing file? It would appear that it is flawed but the backup does work. However, if it missing something about the user, can you just add that back as you use your tablet? and what exactly is it missing?
I really like being able to do backups to a flash drive. It's easy to attach and you can have a separate flash drive used for such purposes and free up the space on your internal microSD card for other storage. You don't have to carry around your backups with the tablet, and you can easily restore your system if you need to.
Thanks.
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I've tried everything I could think of:
Drop Box fails: file size limitations
Direct copy by attaching to a PC fails: IF you want to backup directories such as clockworkmod or something with lots of files, CRC's often do not match for copies
SFTP works: when permissions allow and its slow
Google Drive fails: speed and space available
SMB fails: As I have network firewall issues that block this.
SGS3 Easy UMS fails: Only external SD card
Directly mount SD card fails: Only works for external SD card.
ADB push/pull fails: only moves 1 directory, not valid for an entire set of directories, continually fails on permission issues.
I had a Atrix, which was great worked every time, plug it in mount the SD card's and go, now with a Galaxy SIII I've take I giant step backwards as far as moving data goes as there is no good fluid and stable way to backup the phone or just move data without pulling my hair out and rolling the dice. I'm sure there is some other method, but so far I've yet to find it, so hence any suggestions?
Also I'm not a fan of the new Clockworkmod plan, as it makes backing up the backups to external devices very time consuming and error prone (external backup to an SFTP server has taken 14 hours and is still running), the old single file method from 5.X, took more space but was simple to backup (and fast same backup would have been done in 20 minutes). Can you use the old method in 6.X, if so how?
ERIC
I don't understand what you are trying to do. Are you just trying to transfer a large file to the phone' s internal memory? If so any of those methods you work without any problem
not sure what cwm vers your using but the cf root version allows for backups to be created on internal or external storage I also have no porblems copying the folder from the extsdcard to pc using mtp connection.
You can flash a separate recovery image with mobile Odin easily, as they are separate from kernel
solved it myself
had same problem also , could not use my s3 in usb mass storage mode with the original usb cable
but it do work when i use the usb cable from my old nokia phone ! you should try with some other cable
martNL said:
had same problem also , could not use my s3 in usb mass storage mode with the original usb cable
but it do work when i use the usb cable from my old nokia phone ! you should try with some other cable
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Interesting thought, I'll give it a try. Maybe it will help with the desktop transfer, but the real problem is getting 1-to-1 transfers without any conversion from the internal SD, I can copy the directory to the ext SD and then remove it and copy, but as stated that's not practical. Note I often push 3 or 4GB a day and removing the case for each one, would never work. Worse the desktop method does not work under linux (and yes I've tried to get it to work, but its unstable and very slow).
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Direct copy by attaching to a PC fails: IF you want to backup directories such as clockworkmod or something with lots of files, CRC's often do not match for copies
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Never had that problem with multiple clockwork transfers .
Copy and paste all my files no problem .
Also I'm not a fan of the new Clockworkmod plan, as it makes backing up the backups to external devices very time consuming and error prone (external backup to an SFTP server has taken 14 hours and is still running), the old single file method from 5.X, took more space but was simple to backup (and fast same backup would have been done in 20 minutes). Can you use the old method in 6.X, if so how?
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New method for SGS3 TWRP in Original development .
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Consider using usb otg and move data to pen drive.
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I copy to/from my sd card (internal and external) e.g. clockworkmod folders to pc or network storage over Wi-Fi with ES File Explorer
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I'm so desperate because I deleted the partitions from my nook with these instructions :
---you can google it and the first link it is--->> "how-to-backup-and-restore-nook-glow-and-nook-simple-touch"
So... I think my backup wasn't well written :S or something like that.
When I deleted the partitions, EVERYTHING went to hell... My nook is actually freeze, my computer doesn't recognize it at all when I plug the cable. My nook just turn the tiny light on, what means it is charging.
---------->Now, my doubt is: is there any hope to my case? how can I fix it? )= how can i make my lap recognizes the nook reader?
Is there any backup file to write on a sd card?
I press the button to turn it on but anything happens.
I've tried nookmanager(this one couldn't make a restore backup nor factory.zip) and the "alpha format touch" (this one tells there's a lack o "log", and a few more files.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
So if you followed those directions you should have ended up with a file on your desktop about 1.9 gigabytes, right?
(If you have a DVD burner, burn that to a DVD, it will make me feel better.)
Why, oh, why do people delete partitions?
You still have the SD card with the Noogie on it, right?
That will still boot up saying "Rooted Forever"?
Now use WinImage (or whatever you used) to write the image back to the Nook.
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So if you followed those directions you should have ended up with a file on your desktop about 1.9 gigabytes, right?
(If you have a DVD burner, burn that to a DVD, it will make me feel better.)
Why, oh, why do people delete partitions?
You still have the SD card with the Noogie on it, right?
That will still boot up saying "Rooted Forever"?
Now use WinImage (or whatever you used) to write the image back to the Nook.
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YES, I hvae the noogie in my sdcard
I also have my file with 1.8gb but i've tried to write it on the sd card but I don't know what happened, it seems like the file was empty :S because when I put the sd card into the nook and try to turn it on the screen still says:" Rooted for ever", even if I press the button a few seconds (maybe 30 seconds)
If I try to open the 1.8gb file with winimage, there's something like the image
it takes more?
You don't write your 1.9 GB file to an SD card, you write it to the Nook internal memory.
With the Nook booted up on the SD card with Noogie, connect USB and use your utility to copy the 1.9 GB to the Nook.
What you showed in your snapshot does not look promising.
You might have done the backup after the Nook was trashed or else corrupted the backup.
Be careful with that 1.9 GB file, you do not want to lose it.
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Thank you for your advice.
Maybe you are right: I didn't create the backup img. as it should be.
Now, i'm wondering if there anybody who wants to share a backup image from a "good" nook and mail it me.
Do you know someone ? T___T Please!!, I'd really appreciate it!
You really don't want to use an image from another device as are there are device specific things on the image. Slow down and don't be in a hurry to find another image yet. You might not be in as bad of shape as you think. 1.8GB is the right size for a backup so you may be OK. As Renate said - DON'T LOSE IT.
Now a couple of things. You said you wrote the image to the SD card and rebooted the device with the SD card in the device. As Renate pointed out this isn't how you restore. And once you finish restoring you reboot without the SD card in the device - if you've got a Noogie card in the device it will always boot the Rooted Forever.
I question whether the WinImage screen shot you posted is actually from your backup. With the size partitions its showing a 1.8GB image file seems quite a bit on the small side. In any event it can't hurt at this point to try a proper restore to the Nook and see if it works. Have you followed the instructions on the page you poitned to to restore your backup:
3. Plug your Nook into your computer with the USB cable.
4. ... instructions on deleting partitions... You already did this, no need to do it again
5. To restore, open Roadkil’s DiskImage software. Use the “Write Image” tab this time and select the Nook Drive from the drop-down list. Select the source file, the backup image you created earlier, and hit start to restore.
6. When the restore is finished, you can disconnect your Nook from the computer and remove the noogie microSD card and reboot.
Try it and report back.
Actually I realy want a nook backup, another backup ( I think there's not another worst thing than this one =s ), because I've tried lots of times the steps you have described and dont work. Actualy my pc doesn't recognize when I plug the nook in.
**When I do the step #5 my nook doesn't response, just appears the well known image: "rooted for ever", but does not turn on, even if I press the button for a long time**
Please, I think I really need another backup image )=
Well, I hope your advice.
Howdy, couldn't find this anywhere
htc Advantage 7510 running MichyPrima ROM for years. Internal (built-in) flash drive developed one corrupt directory (the backup directory for SPB backup, natch) and got filled up, before this had plenty of room. The bad directory now appears to contain subdirectories and files with gobble-de-goop names, dates, etc. and when I try to delete any or all of them it tells me either that the file name contains illegal characters and therefor can't be deleted, or that the file is a system file and access is denied (of course the files are not write-protected). Trying to get at it and delete it while connected to an XP desktop also doesn't help because it is not recognized as an external drive, but rather as a sub-directory of a "mobile device", so I get similar errors. All other directories are fine, and most of my installed , configured software resides on this drive, along with a lot of data (I've got all that backed up to the desktop computer). I also removed some files from other directories to make some room just in case this was complicating things.
Is there some utility that will let me make an end-run around this and just delete the directory and its contents? I really don't want to format the entire drive and start over from nothing.
TIA for any advice!
-avi
Remove corrupted directory from internal flash drive checkout following link for more details.
This won't help.
As stated above, only the removable micro SD card can bee seen as a true external flash drive, not the intenal memory.
The only solution would be a Windows Mobile tool similar to Scandisk.
Now you really can't find anything to solve your problem, you can still backup all your data and hard reset your device : it should set it back clean.
I kind of concluded that myself. Just hoping someone knows of that elusive utility that will let me work on the drive as if it were a regular removable drive. I REALLY don't want to go the formatting route.
Hello,
I'm new to much of this. I want to flash Android M to my Nexus 4 but I am heeding many people's warnings to backup my device. However, nothing I've tried has allowed me to do so. In my searches, I discovered this thread that enables OTG flash drive support for Nexus 4 phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66226991&postcount=48
But when I installed it over the stock TWRP 3.0.2.0, it showed an external slot with 0MB and would not allow me to select it. I've tried various flash drives, all formatted to FAT 32, I've tried a powered external USB 3.0 drive enclosure (NTFS formatted) - nothing works. The cable I'm using is not a "Y" cable, which is why I tried using my external backup drive, which is powered but NTFS. Is that the issue?
Finally I decided, to heck with it, I'll just create a nandroid backup to my phone's storage and then drag it onto my PC, but it only has 4.5GB free space left. I could go and uninstall most of my apps, but what is the point of backing it up then? I need almost 9GB of space on a device that has just 16GB.
This crap is so frustrating. I expect installing Marshmallow would be hard, but I did not expect a backup, which should be a simple operation, to be so challenging Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Did you try twrp 2.8.7?
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Did you try twrp 2.8.7?
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Thanks for the suggestion - I just tried it. Using all the methods listed in my post (using straight non-Y cable) I get not OTG option when specifying storage location - just internal storage. I've ordered a OTG Y cable and will post back here if that helps.
Also, I purchased the "Live" option, thinking that would back my phone up to the cloud. After reading a bit, it appears that premium feature allows you to create a nandroid backup without booting to recovery mode. It's just about useless though because it requires selinux to be set to permissive - AFAICT, selinux is always set to something else and the process to get it set to permissive is pretty advanced and looks like a PITA. I guess the live option would be really cool for you advanced users...
dalewb said:
Hello,
I'm new to much of this. I want to flash Android M to my Nexus 4 but I am heeding many people's warnings to backup my device. However, nothing I've tried has allowed me to do so. In my searches, I discovered this thread that enables OTG flash drive support for Nexus 4 phones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66226991&postcount=48
But when I installed it over the stock TWRP 3.0.2.0, it showed an external slot with 0MB and would not allow me to select it. I've tried various flash drives, all formatted to FAT 32, I've tried a powered external USB 3.0 drive enclosure (NTFS formatted) - nothing works. The cable I'm using is not a "Y" cable, which is why I tried using my external backup drive, which is powered but NTFS. Is that the issue?
Finally I decided, to heck with it, I'll just create a nandroid backup to my phone's storage and then drag it onto my PC, but it only has 4.5GB free space left. I could go and uninstall most of my apps, but what is the point of backing it up then? I need almost 9GB of space on a device that has just 16GB.
This crap is so frustrating. I expect installing Marshmallow would be hard, but I did not expect a backup, which should be a simple operation, to be so challenging Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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- Have you tried turning on compression and ignoring the disk space in TWRP?
- If that still fails, you can backup one partition at a time, then transfer it by adb before backing up the next partition, etc.
Thanks and solution
Thanks to those of you who suggested different things. The solution ended up being a combination of things - needed the Y cable (that allows power and USB flash drive to be plugged into phone at same time) and the TWRP build for Nexus 4 with OTG support. Once those two things were in place, I was able to select my flash storage device. The backup was right at 9GB - pretty big!
Hi All,
I have an S5 SM-G900P w/6.0.1
I keep my photos on my SDCard. Recently after taking some lengthy vids, I ran out of space and it shifted over to local storage.
I backed up both external and internal DCIM/camera folders to my local machine. Then copied that backup to another backup drive.
I normally parse through the pics to make sure everything is ok before I delete the stuff from my phone, but this last batch was too big to do that, so I only skimmed through.
After thinking the copies were successful, I went ahead and deleted the pictures from my phone. I deleted via Windows 10 while looking at the folders via usb connection.
Shortly after I discovered that any of the files that were on internal storage (and some on the SD Card) were corrupted during the transfer. Their file size was inflated to approx 5.2GB each (normally around 1500KB).
I was able to quickly recover any of the corrupted files on the SD card using Piriform's Recuva. (maker of cCleaner). I mounted the SDcard directly to the PC and didn't use the phone.
However, Recuva won't browse the phones internal storage when connected via USB. Their FAQ says it can only browse and recover from physically attached drives. (no mapped drives, which I tried by using a webserv)
I tried several recovery apps on my phone itself. Disk Digger, Dumpster, etc. They didn't find anything.
AFAIK, I can't mount the internal storage on the phone as a physical drive like we used to be able to do on older phones.
At this point, I'm not sure what else I can do. It's been a day now, so the phone might have already written over the space anyway. But I'm curious if there isn't any other ways to recover those files. I hate losing pics of my kids.
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Hi All,
I have an S5 SM-G900P w/6.0.1
I keep my photos on my SDCard. Recently after taking some lengthy vids, I ran out of space and it shifted over to local storage.
I was able to quickly recover any of the corrupted files on the SD card using Piriform's Recuva. (maker of cCleaner). I mounted the SDcard directly to the PC and didn't use the phone.
AFAIK, I can't mount the internal storage on the phone as a physical drive like we used to be able to do on older phones.
At this point, I'm not sure what else I can do. It's been a day now, so the phone might have already written over the space anyway. But I'm curious if there isn't any other ways to recover those files. I hate losing pics of my kids.
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Can I assume, seeing that you used "Recuva" that you are running Microsoft on your PC???
If that be the case.... will take a little time , and a good size USB Stick. and hopefully, you have a port left for USB3.0 for the S5..
That said, you could set up Ubuntu on a USB Stick (making sure when doing so, you use the whole card, so changes can be made)
Then making sure your PC can boot from a USB Stick, Power that down, Restart PC, Booting into Ubuntu. then plug in phone. Mount the it, and you should be able to find everything you are missing. (that said, I do hope you were using the Stock Camera App, and mot something else.... if so, the files, might be bad from the start, I hope this is not the case).
hope this may help you