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hi, all dear hd2 users,
In that 'Weird camera colour balance?' thread, some guys are still not convinced that their cameras have the pink problem. For me, I had also thought I am the lucky one who don't have the defect until today.
first thing to remember, do not use flash, because the strong light could make all the pics very white without pink spots;
2, take a clean white paper;
3, take several pictures of a clean white paper;
4, put them in a folder in your pc;
5, then display them in thumbnails.
you will see how obvious the pink spots in the centre are!
don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!
attached are some of my pics with pink spot, the bluish one is even with flash.
and one very important thing, don't forget to reply this post to tell me the results!
Cheers!
I dont have the time to do the pictures but you're definitely right, I didnt think I got it but I actually do.
Hope they get this and all the other problems fixed soon.
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
jrvenge said:
Its a hardware fault, you need to send your phone back, software will never fix it.
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no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
Hopefully it is really software issue.
I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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I don`t think i have the issue, but god lets hope its not.
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i didn`t think too, i tryied that and i have something... but it is not so bad... so i`m okay
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
johncmolyneux said:
I posted on the previous thread that I do not have the problem. I've used the camera a lot of times and never seen this pink blobby-blur thing in the middle of the picture.
On the other hand, I do not spend hours taking pictures of pieces of white paper, or white walls, so I'm not fussed. As it states in the main post of this thread, "don't use the pictures of colourful scenes to do this experiment because they could cover the pink and easily cheat our naked eyes!"
That to me says you don't see this problem unless you go looking for it. Okay, the colour may be slightly off if your phone IS displaying this fault, but if you can't see it with a colour picture, who the hell cares?
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
I think we will find that the pink tinge problem is hardware related, some digital cameras can suffer from what is called a hot spot. The problem usually only shows up when trying to take an IR photo as its something to do with too much IR light getting through to the sensor. Its possible that the lense on the HTC has a coating problem thats letting too much IR light through to the sensor. If this is the case only replacing the lense will fix it.
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^^^ THIS ^^^
I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use. Any camera with a small fixed lens is not going to give the best pictures and is no substitute for a dedicated digital camera with a much larger optical focus lens, especially when taking pictures close-up of a high contrast object. If HTC had fitted a larger lens with optical zoom then this camera would be a far chunkier device and not not to carry around in your pocket as a great all-round communication system.
I never intended the HD2 to replace my compact digital camera anyway, so for, me this isn't a real problem.
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Well, its a big problem for me. A phone at that price, and compared to other phones, really should have a better/satisfying camera. I find it unacceptable that my old Diamond takes better pictures!
And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
There already is a thread about this.
I suggest the two be merged if possible.
mallman said:
no it isnt, that has been discussed, there is a long thread abtou this already. t was determined 100% to be software. I would post the existing thread but i dont feel like going to search for it Trust me, its there
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HTC originally said it was a hardware issue. Then they changed their minds and said it was a rare software issue. Then they changed their minds again and said it was a common software issue and that they are working on a hotfix.
I'm not convinced, to be honest: my suspicion is that it really is a hardware issue that HTC intends to try to compensate for in software, and that they're lying about it.
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I did the above experiment and can see the pink hue when taking pictures of a white piece of paper, but as johncmolyneux says it's not really an issue in normal use.
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I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
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I beg to differ: it's very obvious in normal use. It's MORE obvious when you take a picture of a white piece of paper, sure; but that's just a convenient way to test quickly for what is a universal problem.
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It's noticeable if you look for it, I personally didn't notice it till I read about the problem. I'm more inclined to believe it's a software fault as using flash when taking pictures I don't get the pink hue in the middle of the pics so it sounds like something to do with the light balancing algorithm as mentioned in the other thread.
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And yes, its the hardware...i just hope they will return my phone fast or simply give me a new one.
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Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
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Know that for sure do you, Know more than the people who made the phone? NO didnt think so
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What HTC knows and what HTC publically says aren't necessarily the same thing. Initially they said it was a hardware issue, then they changed their minds. Why? Was it because it is actually a software issue, but HTC tech support gets no information from HTC head office, had to guess, guessed wrong, and was belatedly corrected? Or was it because it's really a hardware issue, tech support knew this and announced it, and head office then suppressed the information in order to protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall, and is now telling lies? There's no way to tell, but at least one of HTC's statements must be either a mistake or a lie.
Go to the older thread
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...protect HTC's reputation and avoid a recall...
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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Whatever the politics or reasons, I doubt very much that this issue would warrant a recall as it does not render the device unfit for purpose.
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IMO, it does.
Even if you disagree, it wouldn't require a formal recall to be extremely damaging to HTC's sales; a lot of people returning their HD's and a lot of others not buying it because of a known hardware issue would be bad enough. HTC has plenty of incentive to lie.
My first Galaxy Note had dead pixels, burn-in effects (don't know what you call them but there are pictures in the link below). The second one I got as a replacement had much more burn-in effects than the first one. The third Galaxy Note had burn-in effects but not as much as the first two, but the gyroscope isn't working on third one, yes I've calibrated it like a thousand times. All of these phones had the burn-in effects out of the box, so it wasn't I who was overheating the phones screen or something like that...
There were also other minor problems (with all three phones) like bad audio quality, bad Bluetooth connectivity, minor lagging and small blocks appearing when watching videos (yes, even of high quality videos) which doesn't appear on any other phone I've had.
I've never had any of these problems with another phone. I've mainly used Sony Ericsson and Apple phones. Off topic, or maybe not.. I also bought an Samsung Galaxy S2 for my girlfriend and it too had burn-in effects and a burnt in status bar (nothing she really cared about, I take it as does most of the people who have it), so it's not just the Galaxy Note suffering from this issue.
Now I'm here, with my third fricking defective Galaxy Note, really pissed off at these issues. If one pays ca. 500+ euros for a quality phone made by the "best" phone company in the world one doesn't expect to have these issues.
I will try to solve this by contacting Samsung. But I would ask of other owners of the Galaxy Note to do the following test on their phones and post a result.
Download the app:
1. Dead Pixel Detect and Fix
2. Start with choosing the colors white and grey
3. Within the app, go to settings, set brightness to lowest.
4. Be in a dark room and look for these burn in effects I'm talking about (dark vertical and horizontal lines + smudges).
Take a picture of the screen with another camera, taking a picture with the phone itself won't show these issues as it's not software issue but a hardware issue.
These were my results with the first two phones I bought:
http://imageshack.us/g/685/bild4ht.jpg/ (There is only one color displayed and there are lots of dark lines and smudges, ignore the grain)
Thank you.
Looking at your pictures they do look very bad, I cant even tell if that is supposed to be a white or grey rendering on the screen but thats an obvious defect.
Did you get your note from a retail store?
I've also had several replacements with my S2 and I ended up getting a refund.
IMHO, part of the cause of this really low quality control is not by samsung but from other users who accept obvious defects to be normal or tolerable, sure its gonna be a PIA to have it exchanged upto more then a dozen times but since a great majority of them are just accepting it so samsung is giving us sup par quality control.
Can't remember if the colors were white or grey on the first picture, but they were definitely the same on both phones!
I bought the first two phones from amazon.de, I got my money back from amazon.de. And I got my third galaxy note yesterday from handyshop.de...
EarlZ said:
IMHO, part of the cause of this really low quality control is not by samsung but from other users who accept obvious defects to be normal or tolerable, sure its gonna be a PIA to have it exchanged upto more then a dozen times but since a great majority of them are just accepting it so samsung is giving us sup par quality control.
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Might be. It seems like the people who are buying Samsung phones doesn't know what quality is, so they just keep the phones and praise the company and the model.
SrAdama said:
Might be. It seems like the people who are buying Samsung phones doesn't know what quality is, so they just keep the phones and praise the company and the model.
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They know what quality is, they just accept the defects as normal. For me I find it hard to accept some of the screen defects when I never faced this issue with first 2 SAMOLED devices. I guess its the flawless screens I had with my first 2 devices placed me in such high expectations especially on the SAMOLED Plus.
I'll try to see if I can also have mine replaced, the only issue I have is the faint horizontal lines, can be seen even when browsing. No effort needed to see it.
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the only issue I have is the faint horizontal lines, can be seen even when browsing. No effort needed to see it.
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One does not necessarily need to do the test I've put up to see these defects, I can see them whenever the background image is grey or white.
SrAdama said:
I've never had any of these problems with another phone. I've mainly used Sony Ericsson and Apple phones.
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Sorry to read of your difficulties, but you do realize their are plenty of Sony and Apple owners with similar problems, right? You've just been lucky until now.
I have a SGS2 and My screen is perfect! Tried the app that is mentioned and all colors are perfect! Maybe there is a bad batch of Super AMOLED HD panels floating around. Don't know but I have never seen SAMOLED screen in such a bad shape! And I've seen a lot! Have somebody heard of Nexus Prime having this issues too?
Sorry, but may you take one picture and draw a circle around the defects? I'm honest: I don't see the banding/burn-in effects on your pictures, nor any dead pixels.
All I see is a poorly made photo, which isn't really sharp, sometimes shaken, and has a lot of grain, probably taken with a low cost camera at a too low brightness the camera isn't able to work with.
If I run the program on my HTC Desire (AMOLED) and on the Samsung Galaxy Note (Super AMOLED) I can't spot an failure. I see a minor burn-in in the notification area, which has nothing to do with quality control but rather it's a display technology limitation.
Else I can't spot any defects, no burn-ins, banding, ...
Just as I don't see this on your pictures, except a lot of grain caused by your camera.
One thing is obvious, that at the lowest brightness setting in a dark room, displaying a dark color, taken with a high exposure time, one can spot a difference in color reproduction between both models. But this is no failure at all, because the difference is minor and the frame conditions stupid. And you probably wouldn't be able to tell a difference without a direct comparison at such artificial frame conditions. And the question is, do other manufacturers allow such a low brightness? Do others have such an evenly lit display?
I really don't see any failure with your models.
So please, make a good photo, with a good DSLR, which is a necessity at such low lights, mounted on a tripod, and then draw a circle around the dead pixels, the banding and the burn-in.
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Sorry, but may you take one picture and draw a circle around the defects? I'm honest: I don't see the banding/burn-in effects on your pictures, nor any dead pixels.
All I see is a poorly made photo, which isn't really sharp, sometimes shaken, and has a lot of grain, probably taken with a low cost camera at a too low brightness the camera isn't able to work with.
If I run the program on my HTC Desire (AMOLED) and on the Samsung Galaxy Note (Super AMOLED) I can't spot an failure. I see a minor burn-in in the notification area, which has nothing to do with quality control but rather it's a display technology limitation.
Else I can't spot any defects, no burn-ins, banding, ...
Just as I don't see this on your pictures, except a lot of grain caused by your camera.
One thing is obvious, that at the lowest brightness setting in a dark room, displaying a dark color, taken with a high exposure time, one can spot a difference in color reproduction between both models. But this is no failure at all, because the difference is minor and the frame conditions stupid. And you probably wouldn't be able to tell a difference without a direct comparison at such artificial frame conditions. And the question is, do other manufacturers allow such a low brightness? Do others have such an evenly lit display?
I really don't see any failure with your models.
So please, make a good photo, with a good DSLR, which is a necessity at such low lights, mounted on a tripod, and then draw a circle around the dead pixels, the banding and the burn-in.
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I think you are blind.
OrionBG said:
Maybe there is a bad batch of Super AMOLED HD panels floating around. Don't know but I have never seen SAMOLED screen in such a bad shape!
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Yeah I've never seen such problems on a screen before, hopefully just a bad batch, but on two different models?
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Sorry to read of your difficulties, but you do realize their are plenty of Sony and Apple owners with similar problems, right? You've just been lucky until now.
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Never heard of any screen problems with Apple and SE, (not saying it doesn't exist) but yes I might have been lucky until now. But what are the odds, 3 gnotes in a row (+ my gf's S2), more or less. It's like all my good luck has secretly been accumulating a lot of bad luck lol. Yeah but I can live with this third one, it's not as bad as the first two. But the problem is the gyroscope. It works randomly.
This is a major feature of recent Samsung Amoled actually. People have been complaining of screen problem for Galaxy SII, Nexus and Note.
They might not want to make the same mistake with their new 2560x1600 ICS tablet.
I've been interested in other phones that uses Sharp's ASV panel.
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I think you are blind.
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I think UpSpin is not blind.
Here you go:
These are pictures made at the same time and light with a DSLR camera and "normal" phone camera.
1. DSLR: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12581372/DSLR Sony A55.jpg
2. HTC Desire Z : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12581372/HTC Desire Z.jpg
Me and UpSpin can both see the difference
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I think you are blind.
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thanks you for not answering my questions at all. Somehow I lose faith in the validity of your issues at all.
SrAdama said:
Never heard of any screen problems with Apple and SE, (not saying it doesn't exist) but yes I might have been lucky until now.
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Strange that you compare OLED displays with LCD. No LCD on earth has a black as OLED, so if you compare OLED next to LCD at such sub-opimatl conditions you'll notice, that LCD won't even go as dark.
And never had any sort of backlight bleed? Just do a google search 'iPhone 4 backlight bleed' which are issues which are obvious.
I still can't see the issues on your pictures. I see artifacts and errors caused by the poor digital camera you used, just as buk_grudziadz nicely compared, thank you buk_grudziadz. But I don't see display failures and you don't seem to be able to show me them, else you would have done it already, or?
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thanks you for not answering my questions at all. Somehow I lose faith in the validity of your issues at all.?
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Well your whole comment seemed more like an insult than any help. How can't you see the issues on the screen? There is only one color on the whole screen, do you think it looks even? You and your friend are the first two people to complain about the photo quality, I'm not the best photographer and I don't know much about how to take good photos, but the problem is very visible. There are black lines, horizontal and vertical and dark smudges. I wish I knew how to take better pictures, even if I did know I don't have the phones since I returned them.
I have the third one left, but it's not that bad as the first two. If you want I can take a photo of it with a galaxy S2.
maybe your phones have the issues, I don't know and I can't tell it.
It's impossible to tell if the photos were taken with a smartphone camera, which adds that much noise that any slight color failures get overshadowed.
Just as with the pictures buk_grudziadz has taken. The display in the photo taken with the DSLR looks perfect, which it is. The same display taken with the Desire Z looks wrong. It has artifacts, color distortion (green and red) seems to have banding, and is grainy (noise), but it isn't. The photo is totally misleading, just as yours are.
So by looking at your pictures your display looks wrong, but not because of the display, but because of the poor camera quality. You can't do better photos with a smartphone camera, even with a point and shot camera it's difficult, you need a DSLR with a large CCD/CMOS sensor and good optics to take reasonable pictures at such a low light. If you don't have one, ask a friend. But the photos you posted are useless, sorry.
Just take a look at the two photos buk_grudziadz posted and tell me, does the display in the photo taken with the Desire Z look faulty or good?
I think your problem is that you are a screen nazi. No screen is perfect. I myself found a dead pixel with your app that i never noticed.
BTW to my knowledge AMOLED displays don't have backlight and the pixels themselves emit light right? So if I'm right, how is it possible to even burn the image of the statusbar when Samsung uses black theme? black means pixels off. How can an image be burned in the display that way?
@UpSpin
They did have those issues and I don't care if you think they "maybe" had those issues. Who the hell do you think you are coming here and being rude, questioning the validity of the issues I've had. I've been through hell with these phones complaining, sending them back, waiting for new ones and loosing money. You are not helping by complaining about the photos.
Do you really think someone would waste their free time on lying about some frickin issues on cellphones? The first person to answer this thread clearly could see them, and I wouldn't post those photos if they didn't look like EXACTLY what I could see with my own eyes. I posted those photos here a long time ago in another thread and nobody complained about the quality. They all saw the issues, many of them had the issues too.
I'm on my third galaxy note and it does have these issues, but luckily not as visible as the first two. When using the same camera I used before and the same settings on the new galaxy note, the problems are barely visible. It doesn't give the new phone some banding or artifacts.
Now these issues was mostly visible when using the lowest screen brightness with grey or white colors (picture yourself reading a book or browsing the internet). It was really annoying and a quality phone from the best phone company shouldn't have those issues.
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I think your problem is that you are a screen nazi. No screen is perfect. I myself found a dead pixel with your app that i never noticed.
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Thank you for your comment, it really helped me. Seriously though, my problem is that I care about quality, clearly some people don't judging by your comment. If I pay 500+ euros for a phone with an amazing 5.3" AMOLED HD screen from the best phone company in the world, I don't expect to have problems out of the box. And if you did read my first post you would see that the third galaxy note I have has those issues but not as much as the first two and I am FINE with it. I was just pointing out that all of the gnotes I received had those issues, more or less and I wanted to know if other people had those too.
When I take pictures with my Nexus 4 stock camera I notice a red hue in the center of the image. It shows in the display and in the picture.
Its incredibly annoying. Anyone else having this issue? I also tried using another app LG Camera and it is still there.
Any info would be much appreciated. Searched forums but didn't come up with anything on this issue.
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romeoliny said:
When I take pictures with my Nexus 4 stock camera I notice a red hue in the center of the image. It shows in the display and in the picture.
Its incredibly annoying. Anyone else having this issue? I also tried using another app LG Camera and it is still there.
Any info would be much appreciated. Searched forums but didn't come up with anything on this issue.
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Yeah I see it too. That's the color of the lens. Oh well nothing we can do about that.
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No... that is not right. There is something wrong with your phone.
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No... that is not right. There is something wrong with your phone.
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+1. Mine doesn't do that at all.
Guys thanks for the input. I was afraid that it might be an issue with my device lens or something because changing Roms from stock to paranoid didn't fix the issue.
Outside I don't notice it... Only on very low light settings. My balance is always set to auto white.
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Yeah I see it too. That's the color of the lens. Oh well nothing we can do about that.
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Thanks for the feedback. So you have the same issue with your camera?
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Guys thanks for the input. I was afraid that it might be an issue with my device lens or something because changing Roms from stock to paranoid didn't fix the issue.
Outside I don't notice it... Only on very low light settings. My balance is always set to auto white.
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purple!!
I doubt it's a manufacturing issue. it's most likely a lens design problem.
From experience, I'm going to say this is normal. Had it on my Touch Pro 2, my HD2, my G2 and now my Nexus 4. Only noticeable in scenes with low light.
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From experience, I'm going to say this is normal. Had it on my Touch Pro 2, my HD2, my G2 and now my Nexus 4. Only noticeable in scenes with low light.
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I never saw this on my OG ego, photon, or s3.
And until this thread I hadn't seen it on my n4. But since reading this thread I have noticed it on my low light photos
Actually, this is starting to look like lens flare. All but the OP's shots look to have a bright light source in front of the lens, out of frame.
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Actually, this is starting to look like lens flare. All but the OP's shots look to have a bright light source in front of the lens, out of frame.
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In my opinion its definitely not lens flare. I've never experienced lens flare in the dark only. Also the pictures of the guys carpet and cat seem to also be in very low light with the same result so I'm not the only one experiencing this in very low lighting. Also my outdoor picture doesn't seem to produce it in the street shot where it would have been more likely to show lens flare (although that could mean it's still there but much less visible.)
I'm starting to think that more people are effected by this and just don't even realize it. I'm personally leaning towards the concept someone here already mentioned that this is a biproduct of the lens in low light.
For those of you not experiencing this issue please post your pictures of indoor shots with low light equivalent scenerio. Perhaps only some are effected by it or maybe you're just not noticing it. Like others have mentioned here... After reading this post that hue in the center became noticeable.
I hope it's an isolated issue but I'm starting to think it isn't.
Thanks again for all the feedback. I am very much into photography so it might take a fine eye to distinguish. Also if you decide to show a pic off try to use a lighter background so we can see the red/purple as some darker subject matter may mask it.
Good luck and I hope you don't share the same experience that we are having.
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romeoliny said:
In my opinion its definitely not lens flare. I've never experienced lens flare in the dark only. Also the pictures of the guys carpet and cat seem to also be in very low light with the same result so I'm not the only one experiencing this in very low lighting. Also my outdoor picture doesn't seem to produce it in the street shot where it would have been more likely to show lens flare (although that could mean it's still there but much less visible.)
I'm starting to think that more people are effected by this and just don't even realize it. I'm personally leaning towards the concept someone here already mentioned that this is a biproduct of the lens in low light.
For those of you not experiencing this issue please post your pictures of indoor shots with low light equivalent scenerio. Perhaps only some are effected by it or maybe you're just not noticing it. Like others have mentioned here... After reading this post that hue in the center became noticeable.
I hope it's an isolated issue but I'm starting to think it isn't.
Thanks again for all the feedback. I am very much into photography so it might take a fine eye to distinguish. Also if you decide to show a pic off try to use a lighter background so we can see the red/purple as some darker subject matter may mask it.
Good luck and I hope you don't share the same experience that we are having.
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I just noticed messing with phone, search Google found this thread. Is this good reason to return for exchange or common (deal with it) problem. I'm AOKP running moles pa kernal
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I just noticed messing with phone, search Google found this thread. Is this good reason to return for exchange or common (deal with it) problem. I'm AOKP running moles pa kernal
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I am also seeing this in low light. To me this looks as if this is sadly normal. If not then a whole lotta fun trying to exchange for one that doesn't exhibit it.
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You should call google and ask because on mine, never happens even in low light. Its most likely hardware flaw on your lens and google would let you RMA for it.
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Also there is "post your pictures taken by nexus 4' thread in general on first pagw and no one there seems to have the problem
I get this in lower light too, and it happened on my SGS3 and SGS2 as well so i'd say it's normal. In night shots and daytime it isn't visible.
Yepp I definitely get it too. Also doesn't focus correctly at times, like my gnex did.
Anyways here are 2 pics I just took. My living room had no lighting (beside coming from kitchen), my daughter is right under a light and I can't see the red hue there.
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What happens if you take that same shot of your living room with the TV off?
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What happens if you take that same shot of your living room with the TV off?
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Good question. Ill try again tonight when it's dark out (got huge windows in living room) with the same shot in different lighting scenarios.
Regarding those comparative shots in different lighting conditions...
I just did exactly that, taking a picture of my desk, very similar lighting conditions.
All settings Auto, Exposure 1/30 s: red center
All settings Auto, Exposure 1/40 s: no red center
Video preview shows the same issue when I point the camera similarly.
This is not a hardware issue (at least not in terms of the lenses or CMOS), it looks more like there's something wrong during picture processing. It might be a problem with the ISP, although I'm pretty baffled to see this happening for such a long time (it was already an issue on the HTC HD2 which was released in late 2009). If it's an ISP issue, I guess we're out of luck.
:cyclops:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTr7midAG4Q
If this is real then it did a amazing job.......
john291 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTr7midAG4Q
If this is real then it did a amazing job.......
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Or is this one fake?
john291 said:
Or is this one fake?
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seems legit
almost night , 1600 ISO manual setting
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nv9t3ww8tb97s4f/7_KNqt7Rw4
great
stesa said:
almost night , 1600 ISO manual setting
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/nv9t3ww8tb97s4f/7_KNqt7Rw4
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great photo but a litlle noisy....:good:
Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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katamari201 said:
Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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You got a slow internet connection? Maybe try running the clip at 1080p resolution instead of 240p lol.
Not gonna lie, the OP's video was so-so. I mean I have seen worse, but my s3 takes as good of video honestly.
I don't believe their video recording was one of their big selling points anyway, more so about the bigger pixels, screen and blinkfeed and actually better battery life for a change....oh and design.
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Not gonna lie, the OP's video was so-so. I mean I have seen worse, but my s3 takes as good of video honestly.
I don't believe their video recording was one of their big selling points anyway, more so about the bigger pixels, screen and blinkfeed and actually better battery life for a change....oh and design.
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You have seen worse, but apparently you don't know that the bigger pixels directly translate to better low light video?
It's quite possible that conditions were a lot darker to the person actually taking the video.
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katamari201 said:
Not impressed. It looks blurry and seems to be held on a tripod that is slightly wavering in the wind. The phone goes to utter ****e when a normal person holds the phone with normal shake and, dear god, tries to pan even the slightest, because thats what people do with their phones. The framerate goes down the crapper and the image ghosts and artifacts like crazy. This is all due to incompetent software too, not the camera module itself. Even a budget Samsung phone can have super smooth and uniform night video, even though the quality is meh.
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Cool story, do you have the phone? If not, shut up because you clearly have no evidence to back your position. If anything, this person is probably shaking quite a bit because the OIS isn't compensating for the motion.
To the person that dismisses the video, turn on HD viewing on YouTube. It makes it leaps and bounds better. I'm going to assume that the person who uploaded this video, did so in low quality.
This will be my next phone as soon as my upgrade hits in June!
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this thread has become troll central! The camera on the ONE is top notch, how can you be so negative when you dont even own one?
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You have seen worse, but apparently you don't know that the bigger pixels directly translate to better low light video?
It's quite possible that conditions were a lot darker to the person actually taking the video.
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Cool story, do you have the phone? If not, shut up because you clearly have no evidence to back your position. If anything, this person is probably shaking quite a bit because the OIS isn't compensating for the motion.
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Lol that last paragraph sums it up
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Its a 4MP camera guys, and its competing against phones with 8MP plus cameras, and its still holding its own.
One thing I've noticed about the camera is that some pictures end up over exposed in normal lighting conditions if I hit the screen to focus in on something, I then have to point the camera away into a darker scene for the exposure to sort itself out. I posted some pics somewhere in the forum of a black steering wheel looking kinda grey.
ant78 said:
this thread has become troll central! The camera on the ONE is top notch, how can you be so negative when you dont even own one?
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Probably owns a samsung.
And i agree opinions on the phone are valid, provided it's done in a sensible fashion.
Flat out bashing will only wind people up, with them running the risk of being banned.
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huxley309 said:
Probably owns a samsung.
And i agree opinions on the phone are valid, provided it's done in a sensible fashion.
Flat out bashing will only wind people up, with them running the risk of being banned.
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Read his other posts lol, all he's been doing is criticizing the HTC One in every HTC One thread that's been created. Guy has nothing better to do.
yep for some one not impressed he seems to be posting on every HTCONE thread
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combat goofwing said:
yep for some one not impressed he seems to be posting on every HTCONE thread
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Perhaps he's being paid to
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What on earth is everyone talking about?!?!
This thing takes AWESOME pics?!
I have not snapped ONE single disappointing picture so far.
How about some examples
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How about some examples
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Coming right up.
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Coming right up.
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here we go
Those are actually pretty nice pics. Almost any camera will take amazing near focus shots though.
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As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty
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As far as photos go from this phone, they're very nice, but sadly, the purple hue is still highly visible in both shots (especially in the area of your cats ears)
I absolutely LOVE my Moto X, but the camera makes me sad. I hope for a fix in an upcoming firmware update.
P.S: Your cat is pretty
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Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.
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Thanks =) She's an F2 Savannah, Amazing animal.
I guess i'm easy to please? i don't look at small details with stuff like a purple hue, and etc.
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Sadly, it's one of the biggest problems this camera has. The problem is more evident in scenes with a lot of white objects or backgrounds.
Take the attached image as an example (yep, I brought Starbucks into a bar, lol)
Thankfully this is something that will likely be fixed in a firmware update.
No offense the first pic you posted is absolutely terrible. The colors are muted out and the entire thing is red.
Unless you're telling me you have red paper towels in your house.
as long as we're doing this. I know nothing about photography, i just thought these were decent pics
the third one i only put because somethign about the water and the way it caught the bird in flight so crisp i thought was amazing
This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.
Hand76 said:
This is with a quick auto correct of some colors and look at the difference. And it still looks like it's got a bit of a red tint.
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What app did you use to do that?
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Nice pics! Just if phones have the ability to edit a photo like a Photoshop does..
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What app did you use to do that?
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Pixlr
no issues with the tint... I can fix that in 2 clicks. my problem is the "dry brush filter" look. You can't get those pixels back.
Youre all making laugh, I guess a benefit to being color blind is I don't notice the purple hue:sly:
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It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.
A trick that you can try to prevent some of the redness or out of balance colors (not the purple hue) is to cover the light sensor on the front off the phone with your finger and then find something white to aim at and rebalance the shot before taking the picture. The sensor is to the left of the earpiece. It seems to help a lot when taking pictures in rooms lit by yellower CFLs.
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Regarding all of the complaints of the Moto X's camera, are (some or all of) these things fixable by software/firmware updates or is it in the hardware? Anyone know? Details would be nice. Thanks.
ShamanicEnzan said:
It's a phone that has a camera, I don't expect to shoot National Geographic on this thing, so for me the camera is just fine.
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I think this is a pretty bad attitude. There are decent cameras in phones that cost just as much or less. There's no reason to make excuses, the camera can be bad, but don't write it off like it's not important or they couldn't include a decent sensor.