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Problem booting from nand

Hi folks,
I've tried two different builds (a hero and donut with the proper flash for the resolution) and two different microsd cards in my vogue, but I can't get either of them to boot. They usually lock up somewhere around "copying rootfs to nand" or "copying systemfs to nand".
I've read and re-read through a ton of posts on here, and I think I'm following the directions exactly, but nothing has worked so far. I'm hoping someone here can offer up some suggestions on why I can't seem to get this going.
For the record I've been running nfsfan's roms for the last few months without any hitch.
Thanks for any info.
Shado

Just an update, I reinstalled winmo 6.5, and thats working fine. So I decided to take the sensehero build and run it under haret, and that works perfectly.
Hopefully someone here will have some idea as to why it crashes writing to nand...

had size microsd card are you using?

Its the 512mb microsd that came with my vogue....

Assuming you've followed all the guides and have all of the files on your card etc you may just have one of the incompatible phones. Several people have reported these issues as well. Only fix would be for someone to send one to DZO so as he can determine what the hardware change is that's causing the issue.

shadoslayer said:
Its the 512mb microsd that came with my vogue....
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thats odd....ill look into it.

I've love to send my phone, but then I'd have to use rabbit ears and a tinfoil hat to get my calls
I can take it apart to give some info on the internal components if that would help, or if there is anything I can run/do to provide any sort of debug information. Please let me know.
At this point the only thing I can say after flashing and booting a few dozen times is that it is something related to reading/writing/mounting the SD card. I also found another 256mb microsd and tried that with the same result (so I've ruled out the card). The majority of the time it just hangs on writing to nand, but occasionally it will segfault in that same area of the boot sequence and sometimes it will just hang mounting the sd card right shortly after it initializes bluetooth.
Cheers
Shado

shadoslayer said:
I've love to send my phone, but then I'd have to use rabbit ears and a tinfoil hat to get my calls
I can take it apart to give some info on the internal components if that would help, or if there is anything I can run/do to provide any sort of debug information. Please let me know.
At this point the only thing I can say after flashing and booting a few dozen times is that it is something related to reading/writing/mounting the SD card. I also found another 256mb microsd and tried that with the same result (so I've ruled out the card). The majority of the time it just hangs on writing to nand, but occasionally it will segfault in that same area of the boot sequence and sometimes it will just hang mounting the sd card right shortly after it initializes bluetooth.
Cheers
Shado
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well mind breaking down what you did to where it got stuck, as in each step beforehand.

I am having the same problem as well. It has to be hardware in my phone. I've tried the two different methods of flashing and both freeze up in linux when it is trying to flash. I've also tried two different micro sd cards and the same result happened on both. I flash windows mobile roms no problem.

gigermunit said:
well mind breaking down what you did to where it got stuck, as in each step beforehand.
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Sure.
(keep in mind the phone is already unlocked, so I'll skip all the unlocking stuff)
1) Downloaded Sensehero from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028 and also grabbed the hero.user.conf from that thread as well
2) Formatted the 512mb microsd in win 7. I did a full format (not quick format) and used fat32 (I also tried formatting fat)
3) Copied everything that came with Sensehero to the root of the sd (data.img, datafstonand, rootfs.img, rootfstonand, system.sqsh, systemfstonand), created a conf folder and copied the hero.user.conf there.
4) Ejected the SD card in Windows, popped it into my vogue.
5) Grabbed voguimg-320x480-17-12-09.nbh, renamed it to RUU_signed.nbh and flashed it (also tried VOGUIMG.NBH and flashing from sd). When I flashed from Windows, I put the phone in bootloader mode first.
6) After flashing, the phone restarted, and the kernel started its thing. The first time it locked up on writing rootfs to nand (it got to 4% I believe and locked up), I went to bed, so I know it wasn't because I didn't wait long enough.
After that, it was pretty much just a combination of resetting and popping the battery out and back in to restart it. Sometimes it would progress past writing rootfs and get to systemfs or datafs but it would always fail at some percentage along the way. Sometimes after just hitting the reset button (the little one on the bottom of the phone) it would freeze trying to mount the SD card. In ALL cases though, it made it to that point - it would never crash, segfault, etc. before it got to the SD card part of the kernel.
Also, thinking it might be something with Sensehero, I tried the Donut ASOP build from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104 along with voguimg-240x320-17-12-09.nbh. Exact same result.
The only thing I haven't tried is using any of the voguimg's with earlier dates, but I'm not sure what has changed between the different revisions that would make any difference. If you think I should, I can try those other builds to see what happens.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info!
Cheers
Shado

BTW When I get home later tonight, I'll reflash and write out exactly what it says during the kernel loading process (or try to take a picture).

shadoslayer said:
BTW When I get home later tonight, I'll reflash and write out exactly what it says during the kernel loading process (or try to take a picture).
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I've done that, it doesn't help dzo said. Usually it processes further than it shows on the screen. I've pmed dzo and offered to send him my phone since I'm only a few towns away.

shadoslayer said:
Sure.
(keep in mind the phone is already unlocked, so I'll skip all the unlocking stuff)
1) Downloaded Sensehero from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=603028 and also grabbed the hero.user.conf from that thread as well
2) Formatted the 512mb microsd in win 7. I did a full format (not quick format) and used fat32 (I also tried formatting fat)
3) Copied everything that came with Sensehero to the root of the sd (data.img, datafstonand, rootfs.img, rootfstonand, system.sqsh, systemfstonand), created a conf folder and copied the hero.user.conf there.
4) Ejected the SD card in Windows, popped it into my vogue.
5) Grabbed voguimg-320x480-17-12-09.nbh, renamed it to RUU_signed.nbh and flashed it (also tried VOGUIMG.NBH and flashing from sd). When I flashed from Windows, I put the phone in bootloader mode first.
6) After flashing, the phone restarted, and the kernel started its thing. The first time it locked up on writing rootfs to nand (it got to 4% I believe and locked up), I went to bed, so I know it wasn't because I didn't wait long enough.
After that, it was pretty much just a combination of resetting and popping the battery out and back in to restart it. Sometimes it would progress past writing rootfs and get to systemfs or datafs but it would always fail at some percentage along the way. Sometimes after just hitting the reset button (the little one on the bottom of the phone) it would freeze trying to mount the SD card. In ALL cases though, it made it to that point - it would never crash, segfault, etc. before it got to the SD card part of the kernel.
Also, thinking it might be something with Sensehero, I tried the Donut ASOP build from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591104 along with voguimg-240x320-17-12-09.nbh. Exact same result.
The only thing I haven't tried is using any of the voguimg's with earlier dates, but I'm not sure what has changed between the different revisions that would make any difference. If you think I should, I can try those other builds to see what happens.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need any more info!
Cheers
Shado
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wow....im speak less, i don't know what the problem could be.

Well, thanks for trying to help out giger. Hopefully with Scizzle's phone dzo can discover whats causing our vogues to act up and we can finally get droid running from nand. And if anyone comes up with anything, I have no problem testing, so drop me a pm.
Thanks everyone!

I have very similar problems as reported here when trying to do this with one of the latest Hero builds. After many resets (due to lockups during the NAND writing process), I am able to get past the writing to get to the Hero/HTC animation screens, but if I'm lucky enough to get that far, it will lockup sometime during those as well.
Back to HaRET for me I guess.

Android now wont run!

Ok well i was using android on my phone with out flashing any thing r doing any thing to my phone. and ways i now used HSPL and flashed my phone and now when i try and run android it loads like four lines and then stops.. any ideas?

It would probably be a good idea to copy your android build (and anything else) off of your SD card, format it in your computer via a card reader to FAT32, and try just putting your android build back on (without a data.img) to see if it successfully boots. I have had this happen with a friends HD2 and this was the only way I found to solve it.
If this stage works, you can put your original data.img back on and it should boot back exactly as you had it before.
I hope someone else can give you a less laborious answer but that was the only one I found that worked.

Reno_79 said:
It would probably be a good idea to copy your android build (and anything else) off of your SD card, format it in your computer via a card reader to FAT32, and try just putting your android build back on (without a data.img) to see if it successfully boots. I have had this happen with a friends HD2 and this was the only way I found to solve it.
If this stage works, you can put your original data.img back on and it should boot back exactly as you had it before.
I hope someone else can give you a less laborious answer but that was the only one I found that worked.
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thanks i give it a shot

[Q] Why wont my HD2 Accept ANYTHING?

Hi,
I have been on this forum for the past 2-3 days trying to get android on my gf's HD2 and it just wont have it.
I have tried MCCM's HD v4 Desire one
I have tried Froyo 1.5
I have tried DL Desire Series, both SD and MAGLAR.
The ones where you click CLRCAD.exe then haret.exe either say it doesent have certificates to run or parts are missing. Or it goes to a black scree and gets stuck on "Jumping To Kernel" and it stays like that for ages (tested for 1 hour, never budged)
The DL desire series via MAGLAR wont work either, I need HSPL (sp?) to install MAGLAR but HSPL keeps reporting back that the file Rapi.dll is missing.
My SPL version is 1.42**** so technically thats right ( from what I have read )
I have tried formatting the SD card via PC and device, also tried a factory reset and an additional 2 other SD cards. Still nada.
What else can it be? Someone mentioned the radio but there is so many questions being asked in a specific thread that mine gets lost and since this is more of a global issue I thought a thread of its own is deserved
I really want this and will go to any length to get it ( not keen on ROM flashing thought, would like to avoid turning the handset into a hammer rather than a phone)
Hope I havent busted any rules
Cheers,
Gib

You need radio 2.14 or more for Android.
aka, upgrade your ROM.

You are not alone
You are not alone here.
I have been having this problem too, I get stuck on the HTC white screen. though I haven't tried much ROM but I have tried formating and reflahing of my WM ROM.
I once did a stock ROM official update with: (RUU_Leo_S_HTC_NLD_3.14.404.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2 .15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship)
ever since I have not been able to find how to flash using SPL, I have been flashing using SSPL_RU and my radio is 2.15.50.14.
Could this reason be the problem.
I need help please I want to have a feel of droid.

Know the feeling
I have been trying all the different android magldr sd roms and everytime its the same story. First boot fine. Second boot and on it just hangs at the green htc logo. I have tried so many things i don't know what to do next.

Have you tried one of the Energy ROM's? I found on my unlocked HD2 that these were the only roms (going back a while now) that I could get Android running off an SD card. I've since heard that there is a basically blank rom for people who want to run nothing but android. It's a small rom, only about 30mb.
It's in a few places around the board. I can't remember what the name of that one is off the top of my head, but any of the Energy series, or the Miri ROM's apparently work too.
Good luck!
Gibbo3771 said:
Hi,
I have been on this forum for the past 2-3 days trying to get android on my gf's HD2 and it just wont have it.
I have tried MCCM's HD v4 Desire one
I have tried Froyo 1.5
I have tried DL Desire Series, both SD and MAGLAR.
The ones where you click CLRCAD.exe then haret.exe either say it doesent have certificates to run or parts are missing. Or it goes to a black scree and gets stuck on "Jumping To Kernel" and it stays like that for ages (tested for 1 hour, never budged)
The DL desire series via MAGLAR wont work either, I need HSPL (sp?) to install MAGLAR but HSPL keeps reporting back that the file Rapi.dll is missing.
My SPL version is 1.42**** so technically thats right ( from what I have read )
I have tried formatting the SD card via PC and device, also tried a factory reset and an additional 2 other SD cards. Still nada.
What else can it be? Someone mentioned the radio but there is so many questions being asked in a specific thread that mine gets lost and since this is more of a global issue I thought a thread of its own is deserved
I really want this and will go to any length to get it ( not keen on ROM flashing thought, would like to avoid turning the handset into a hammer rather than a phone)
Hope I havent busted any rules
Cheers,
Gib
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Solution!
Instructions :
- Download the Android SD version of your choice. Unzip, Extract the 'Android' folder to root of your SD Card. (Make sure to Format the SD card before doing this.)
- After you have done all steps go into Android folder and tap CLRCAD (for working sound), and after that just tap HaRET
-Booting ..
-Enjoy

kottaho said:
You are not alone here.
I have been having this problem too, I get stuck on the HTC white screen. though I haven't tried much ROM but I have tried formating and reflahing of my WM ROM.
I once did a stock ROM official update with: (RUU_Leo_S_HTC_NLD_3.14.404.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2 .15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship)
ever since I have not been able to find how to flash using SPL, I have been flashing using SSPL_RU and my radio is 2.15.50.14.
Could this reason be the problem.
I need help please I want to have a feel of droid.
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Ater trying some nand roms i came back to the orignal firmware( the same as you).
And i also have this problem , it just load into a picture with htc on it.

Have you tried using a different SD card? My Sandisk 8gb didn't accept anything. I had an old 512mb laying around that came with my E90, loaded SuperRAM on it (aprox 450mb including data.img) and it booted straight away.

2.15.50.* is the right radio for most SD builds, make sure you have enough free space on SD. most builds have at least 512mb if not 1gb data.img which gets created when first boot. If runs out of space it will get stuck on boot screen. No hspl required with 3.14 HTC winmo rom

I also try to get Android in my HD2 (energy ROM). I am somewhat puzzled however: I want to flick back and forth between WM and Android and many programs I have reside onto my SD card. I have read in an earlier post that before attempting Android I should format my card - does this mean that I cannot have WM data (programs etc) in the same SD card I run android? or that I can transfer them back AFTER I manage (if) to load Android?. Thank you

The SD card has to be formatted in FAT32. Just to make sure the card is clean I copy all my data to my pc, format the card and transfer it all back.

Aesthetic said:
The SD card has to be formatted in FAT32. Just to make sure the card is clean I copy all my data to my pc, format the card and transfer it all back.
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OK thank you - got it!

Unfortunately I cannot get passed the green HTC splash screen - my HD2 stays there for time no end and the only solution is to take battery out. Any suggestions?

Assuming you've got everything set up properly (right radio, hspl, ...) which you can find on the Android forum. I think you'll have to try using a different brand of sd card. Some cards simply don't play nice with Android.

Got uber annoyed with the SD method, just ended up doing a full scale flash to ROM. Was easier lol

MrAskani said:
Have you tried one of the Energy ROM's? I found on my unlocked HD2 that these were the only roms (going back a while now) that I could get Android running off an SD card. I've since heard that there is a basically blank rom for people who want to run nothing but android. It's a small rom, only about 30mb.
It's in a few places around the board. I can't remember what the name of that one is off the top of my head, but any of the Energy series, or the Miri ROM's apparently work too.
Good luck!
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I am using Energy ROM (Energy Serie: Energy.Leo.28244.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.Feb.12)
My phone just hangs on the white HTC screen when I try to boot into Android from the SD card. I flashed my ROM with SSPL_RU after an update with the Stock ROM (RUU_Leo_S_HTC_NLD_3.14.404.2_Radio_15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14_LEO_S_Ship)

ehh
Aesthetic said:
Assuming you've got everything set up properly (right radio, hspl, ...) which you can find on the Android forum. I think you'll have to try using a different brand of sd card. Some cards simply don't play nice with Android.
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I would almost agree with that except, i have 2 exactly the same 16 gb cards, each with a 3 gb fat32 primary partition. 1 loads android but wont allow me to do things like take pictures[it says there isn't an sd card.] The second card just hangs at the green htc screen. Even if I copy the working partition to the other card, it still hangs.

evo1rs said:
2.15.50.* is the right radio for most SD builds, make sure you have enough free space on SD. most builds have at least 512mb if not 1gb data.img which gets created when first boot. If runs out of space it will get stuck on boot screen. No hspl required with 3.14 HTC winmo rom
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Thanks for this Info. I didn't take into consideration that the file will be enlarged during booting. The copied Android folder was 508MB in size but this got enlarged to about 1.3GB during boot up. I thought if I just leave about 1.2GB in all the SD card I have been trying that it should be enough. But I was wrong.
Thanks a lot I have done multiple reboot without any problem.
I am enjoying my first Android feel.
Thanks once again.

Android on HD2 hates most SD Cards
From my own limited experience to also having read many posts I can say that most sd cards prevent Android from running properly on the hd2. Mine works fine with radio 2.14/2.15 and the stock Sandisk 16gb card that came with my tmous hd2, but I recently tried a wintec 16gb card that made Android run like a broke-wheel-cart and other sd cards I have laying around make it fail.
I think everyone needs to add what card they are using to their signature, or else we might all just end up howling in the wind.
Based on some feedback from another post I just ordered this Sandisk 16gb card from Newegg. It is Model # SDSDQ-016G-A11M . It is reported that that model# provides class10 speeds even though it is sold as a class2. It's use with Android is supposed to be good.

[Q] Installin android sd version

hi
im tring to install sd version of android. for some reason most of the versions here stuke in ablack screen with green HTC logo.
is antbody know y is it?
only two old version worked on my hd2
what preeinstal i need to do with my phone?

if you write what steps you take while installing most probably someone helps you.

i have same problem.
just coping android on a SD card, when i am trying to open it, i get a black screen with HTC logo on it.
formatted a card, updated Rom version. and nothing helps.....
problem started when i switch a sd card for a new one, but now when i put an old one back - i still have a same problem.
( on old card everything worked )

angel182 said:
i have same problem.
just coping android on a SD card, when i am trying to open it, i get a black screen with HTC logo on it.
formatted a card, updated Rom version. and nothing helps.....
problem started when i switch a sd card for a new one, but now when i put an old one back - i still have a same problem.
( on old card everything worked )
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do you use winmo,and which rom do you want to flash, and what steps do you make?

Yes, i am using a winmo, HTC HD2
i tried many roms, and i am talking about the ROM, not android.
and on each ROM i tried to load different Android, but it still
do not work.........stuck on a screen every time
Basically i use "energy rom", http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
and tried with American Android ((( this one worked on a first sd -card)))
steps from a beginning : i flash rom on my phone, after hard reset, i flash it from my PC. then i copy the "Android" folder on sd card of my phone, then with "file explorer" i enter the "android" file ((for example - AMERICAN ANDROID)) , i choose CLRCAD, (nothing happens) and then i choose the HARET and loading begins. after that just a screen with HTC logo, a black one. i waited for 20 min, and more - nothing changes. (( tried to reset and load again, same screen, no progress....))
i just have no idea what else to do....
been searching for solution for few days now.
some say that updating the rom helps, but done that.

When i were using winmo i were formatting my sd on such a case. If it doesn't work i was formatting winmo too.
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ye....... the problem is that i done that all.........
just weird.

angel182 said:
ye....... the problem is that i done that all.........
just weird.
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for example - AMERICAN ANDROID....i take it from your writing.you must put the folder Android to sd card not american android folder. i mean
sd card/android/clrcad then haret. not sd card/american android/android/clrcad

of course, i understand it.
i read manual for 100 times now, just to be sure i am doing things right.
i know the basics.
so lets see :
format to phone and sd card - checked
updated rom - checked
different sd card - checked
different rom with different android - checked
if i think about it know - phone is not working that's why i can't install android.
but - every rom is working good and android did worked once on a old sd card.
so have no idea what to do next.
at first i wanted to copy files from sd card where Android did worked, so there were file named "data.img" , couldn't copy it. don't know why.
so, in order for android to work on a phone now , it must create same file now. maybe card is somehow protected and doesn't allow phone to do it................. but i can copy all other stuff on it.
my knowledge and fantasy just ends here, but it kills me that such a simple thing doesn't work.
and if it doesn't work on an old card either, so can't figure out what causing this problem.

i can lastly say: download a new copy of american android.wipe everything from your sd.unrar american android in your pc.find the android folder.copy android folder to your sd via usb or card reader.clrcad then haret. the rom creates a new data.img in first boot.this rom may take half an hour to load. because i use it also. sorry if i'm unable to help

i had the same problem installing AmeriCanAndroid. it seemed like you did everything right from what i could tell anyway. i would try a different sd build to see if thats the problem.

mutil said:
i can lastly say: download a new copy of american android.wipe everything from your sd.unrar american android in your pc.find the android folder.copy android folder to your sd via usb or card reader.clrcad then haret. the rom creates a new data.img in first boot.this rom may take half an hour to load. because i use it also. sorry if i'm unable to help
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thank you anyway, i"ll try that

htccraze said:
i had the same problem installing AmeriCanAndroid. it seemed like you did everything right from what i could tell anyway. i would try a different sd build to see if thats the problem.
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did try, makes no difference
what about you? did it help, switching sd card?
been trying now different Android, same thing.

@angel182
At the time i was a bit of a noob still am really but when i installed a new sd build i think it solved my problem. if i remember correctly i may have even tried a different winmo rom (omega) which may have helped as well. i really cant be to sure because its been some time now & my memory aint what it use to. lol.
I will say that if you ever want to go to a nand version and dont like it for what ever reason you can always switch back. I'm sorry I couldnt of been more help.

Read this
Let me know if it helped you.

Lost Internal SD Card?

I've just come across an issue but I'm unsure if it's something I've done, my phone, a Rom or Dual booting!!
My Primary appears fine but my Dual and Multi1 have lost contact with the internal SDCard but external is fine.
On my Mac when using Android File Transfer the same happens.
Any ideas as to what has happened? I can boot into the 2 other Roms fine but get warnings about insufficient storage available. It's all worked fine for ages and all of a sudden this happened. I've deleted Apps and even one of the Roms just to see if it is just the space is all used but I'm sure it's a mount or link issue maybe?
I've asked in the relevant Dual Boot thread but thought I'd ask here too just in case it's a problem that crops up when booting a single Rom too

Houndcatcher said:
I've just come across an issue but I'm unsure if it's something I've done, my phone, a Rom or Dual booting!!
My Primary appears fine but my Dual and Multi1 have lost contact with the internal SDCard but external is fine.
On my Mac when using Android File Transfer the same happens.
Any ideas as to what has happened? I can boot into the 2 other Roms fine but get warnings about insufficient storage available. It's all worked fine for ages and all of a sudden this happened. I've deleted Apps and even one of the Roms just to see if it is just the space is all used but I'm sure it's a mount or link issue maybe?
I've asked in the relevant Dual Boot thread but thought I'd ask here too just in case it's a problem that crops up when booting a single Rom too
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Reinstalled the least used Rom in Multi1 after wiping everything and it is now working again. 2nd Rom in Dual is my usual Rom and has stuff that I can't seem to save easily unless I do a full Nandroid backup but then there is a chance I will reintroduce the problem when I restore

Not dual rom
Houndcatcher said:
Reinstalled the least used Rom in Multi1 after wiping everything and it is now working again. 2nd Rom in Dual is my usual Rom and has stuff that I can't seem to save easily unless I do a full Nandroid backup but then there is a chance I will reintroduce the problem when I restore
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Your problem is not due to dual rom because i habe same problem. I have one rom but my internal SD Card seems full but when i check the files min 4 GB suppose to be free.
Did you solve this problem? Could you tell me if you find the solutitons?