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How high can I overclock

I can set it as high as 1646. IV looked around and it seems that people use 1504. Is it unsafe to go any higher?
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1400 is safest I run Alexandra iii

if you go up to 1.6 GHZ, you might get SHUTDOWNS...
if you don't run any games, or apps, sure it will work. But not smart to overload it.
If on Custm ROM, Read DEV Notes, usually they'll say (or mention about Kernel changing)
as a rule I keep it on 1.5 Ghz (when 1.6 was max) (have tested on about 8-10 diff roms) (never have had any shutdowns yet)
*** also maybe use a meter app to check TEMPS (like battery TEMP)
Cool Tool - shows battery temp, RAM, Proc Freq, + more in little box on screen all the time (adjust settings)
https://market.android.com/details?id=ds.cpuoverlay
"setCPU for Root users" - underclock to lowest when off, set lower cpu freq if battery gets warmed to ur custom Degrees)
http://www.setcpu.com/
***Some custom ROM's have thier own Freq CONTROLER app (that could clash with prog or have 2 progs do the same thing)

Like humans NO TWO CPU's are equal
All of the above it true with one exception..NOT every cpu is created equal Not all ram chips and so on also live up to this..
Start over clocking your cpu slowly. as you push clocks higher of course lower voltage. This keeps heat down .
Two processors even made on the same casting can be totally different . Where one will take more heat with less errors and corruption and the die next to it will almost crash running its designed clock speeds . Being that extreme is very rare with a few exceptions. most are close as to a common ability. within a few 100 mhz.
So the answer is there is NO TRUE Answer. its trial and error but on the side of caution and testing clock speeds and heat is not a 30 second yes it runs. Do it over a week or so. I know with my dragon cup in cell phone its at its end of life from being over clocked for a few years. some last longer some die quicker.. Its kinda like drinking on your brain the more you drink the more cells you kill.. The hotter your cpu gets the more transistors fail the slower it becomes the more errors you have .
Relax .. go slow.do not expect to get what everyone else is claiming. and you will be fine..
Sorry again for long winded post..

dr mcknight said:
I can set it as high as 1646. IV looked around and it seems that people use 1504. Is it unsafe to go any higher?
Thanks
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Any is unsafe. Higher speed equals heat and heat kills semiconductors. Might work for a while but why risk it

My daughters has been running at 1.6GHz for 2.5 months without any crashing or blowing up.

I say at 1.6, you're starting to enter the "red zone", sort of asking for problems. Why go up that high? I mean, 1.5 shows enough performance improvement over the 1GHz...

samsung vibrant oc

i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.

tinye99 said:
i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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It will definitely shorten the life of the battery. As for the phone itself I can't really say. I used to use my vibrant @ 1200mhz daily while running bionix 1.3.1. I never really noticed any wear and tear from the overclocking. If your phone runs warm while overclocking you should really consider running the stock voltages. Your phone may overheat and fry your cpu gpu with the high temperatures. So be careful when overclocking.

Meh i dont completely agree...
It will only shorter the life of your battery because the processor will draw about 20% more power which is very small compared to the like 20x more power the lcd takes up.. i dont think youll feel the difference.
The heating up i disagree with too since ive seen processors reach boiling point of water and continue to work.. thats not to say they all will but ive oced my phone to 1.6ghz to benchmark for several minutes and it never got above 41*... the battery heats up alot more when its charging than the processor does most of the time so i wouldnt worry tooo much about that.
Now as to whether the phones llife will lower... yes probably.. youre putting more stress on the processor than if you dont oc.. honestly tho, processors dont die very often so i oc all day as my daily runner, usually to 1.4ghz if my kernel will do it..
Up to you and honestly all of this is my opinion based on my available info etc.. hope this helps
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I have mine Oc to 1.5 and no issues. 1.5 is the Max I would go.
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Everything I have read says 1200 is completely safe. I run mine at 1460 with no issues. It obviously draws more battery but using Voltage control app you can adjust the level of battery.
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.

Like everyone else said, you ought to be perfectly fine with that value.
The highest I would go is 1500 though

kaiser_bun said:
You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
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Lol, running an overclock on a phone seems a bit overkill to me...
Think about this.. How much copper is strapped up to your phones cpu?
Would you overclock your desktop on a stock cooler?
I feel sorry for the saps who buy phones second hand(especially after reading this thread). (hey wait a minute, that's me too.. Lol)
I never overclock anything.
Ever.
(learned my lesson with an amd Duron 733 back in the day)
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Galaxy S3 overclocking

Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.

If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it!
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sfjuocekr said:
If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it!
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If i don't but you know then u can tell me about any risk.

NOTHING is without risk, but a good place to start is just to install the latest Siyah S3 Kernel and run it it at 1.6ghz for the CPU and default settings for the GPU. I tried running my CPU at 1.7 and 1.8 and the it wasn't 100% stable and the temps were to high for my liking. Be moderate in your settings and you shouln't encounter any issues.
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ latest version is 1.7rc1
That will give you a good performance bump with the minimum of risk (in my opinion).
Other than that installing a bloatware free ROM will also give a nice bump. I personally run Omega V29 with the above 1.6 overclock settings and it lightning fast. :good:

There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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nodstuff said:
There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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could u plz tell me that what is the process of undervolt if i undervolt the cpu then it is related to only heat or performence also?

If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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mrjoy said:
Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.
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1.7ghz should be alright for a 32nm chip like the exynos 4412 on our s3. HTC has had their One S (with a 45 nm chip) clocked at 1.7 ghz. The lower the nanoneter, the more ambitious you can be with clock speeds. Try 1.6 or 1.7 ghz with default voltage settings and see how that goes
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nodstuff said:
If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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You are using -100 undervolt, that mean its high current & mean if i select 25 to 50 then its less current than 100??? & is there any battery improvement if i select less current mean less heat.?

I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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nodstuff said:
I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?

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I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?
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Yes atleast while it's using the higher clock speeds.
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What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?

DenethorLenwion said:
What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?
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siyah, its most beginner friendly wih stweaks (for ICS you should check 1.5 version if its still obtainable, however should be)
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Antutu and Quadrant, all are just bull****. Just to see their manipulated scores, overclocking does not make any sense.
At ground level, applications do not run anything faster as overclocking alone does not work here. Even if you get milli milli milli second improvement which is just nothing against damage of CPU.
Got it?? now start using your phone as it should be and made for.

Before overclocking you should ask yourself Why you want to overclock. If it's because the phone have some lags there is other(safer) way to solve this problem. Honestly I overclock mine for a while (just because I'm a tester) but the S3 is fast enough for everything. You should see my S3. The app drawer appears (almost) instantaneously. Any games play smoothly etc...
On this phone overclocking is possible but useless. If you want to learn how to overclock just to learn how, search in the stickies for the overclocking guide.

I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.

When I play pokemon black 2 on nds4droid without overclocking it gives me 20 to 30 fps and when I overclock it to 1.7 GHz i get 28 to 35 fps
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Firstly you need a kernel supporting overclocking... Secondly its fine if u wanna play around with your device... Lastly I would suggest u to overclock it to 1704 MHz max (avoiding any boot loops )....
I would recommend Siyah 1.9.1 (as your Kernel) and "Noop" as your I/O Scheduler... In case ure using Siyah as your Kernel, try using "Lulzactiveq" as your governer...
Furthermore u can tweak the governer if u want more juice out of it....
Try it.....
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Mr Faeces said:
I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.
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Lag can be reduced by tweaking your governer and some other settings... U don't have to underclock it...
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I have tried overclocking to1600, and although Quadrant stats are higher, I did not notice any difference in normal usage. I am a general usage text and phone calls and email user. Minimal game playing. I stick to 1400 now and everything seems just the same!!
At the moment I am running Sotmax rom and boeffla kernel.
Hope this helps.

Fix For Back Of Tablet Getting Hot (Still Overclocked)

I found when running Shadowrun Returns with the ElementalX 1.4 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022 at 1.944 GHZ the back of the Nexus 7 gets hot. This worried me but I noticed when I installed the kernel was an option to use cool thermal throttling. I tried this and now the tablet does not heat up at all. You need to be rooted though to install the kerne of course not sure if ElementalX 1.4 works with stock though, I'm running the latest CM 10.2 nightly. It doesn't seem to affect the performance of either Shadowrun Returns or Wild Blood, the two games I'm playing at the moment, I still have the GPU overclocked to 487 and the Dalvik etc overclocked at the moderate ElementalX setting. . I think being able to run at 1.944 GHZ on my tablet with the cooler thermal throttling is better then running at stock and I believe that even some running at stock have that issue.
Hope this helps others that have this problem.

KedarWolf said:
I found when running Shadowrun Returns with the ElementalX 1.4 kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2389022 at 1.944 GHZ the back of the Nexus 7 gets hot. This worried me but I noticed when I installed the kernel was an option to use cool thermal throttling. I tried this and now the tablet does not heat up at all. You need to be rooted though to install the kerne of course not sure if ElementalX 1.4 works with stock though, I'm running the latest CM 10.2 nightly. It doesn't seem to affect the performance of either Shadowrun Returns or Wild Blood, the two games I'm playing at the moment, I still have the GPU overclocked to 487 and the Dalvik etc overclocked at the moderate ElementalX setting. . I think being able to run at 1.944 GHZ on my tablet with the cooler thermal throttling is better then running at stock and I believe that even some running at stock have that issue.
Hope this helps others that have this problem.
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That's a good sign as you know the heat is being distributed effectively away from the internals. You don't need to be rooted to flash custom kernel. And setting different governors will have a major impact on your CPU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28002345

About The Heat At Least I'm Sure My Advice Is Sound.
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That's a good sign as you know the heat is being distributed effectively away from the internals. You don't need to be rooted to flash custom kernel. And setting different governors will have a major impact on your CPU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28002345
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You might be right about not needing to root to install a custom kernel though I couldn't find a definitive answer in the Nexus 7 2013 forums. I assumed it was needed from using custom kernels on other devices.
My device gets hot while gaming. When you are doing intense gaming like I am I'm sure pretty much any governor will max out the CPU. I know Intellidemand which I use does for sure.
When overclocking, heat is the enemy and it can damage, crash CPUs and even affect the performance of them. I believe if you are concerned about your Nexus 7 heating up (mine does for a good area between the logo and the camera when not using the ElementalX cool thermal throttling) then my advice is good.
Peace.
P.S. How the heck have you done 675 posts since June 2013?

KedarWolf said:
You might be right about not needing to root to install a custom kernel though I couldn't find a definitive answer in the Nexus 7 2013 forums. I assumed it was needed from using custom kernels on other devices.
My device gets hot while gaming. When you are doing intense gaming like I am I'm sure pretty much any governor will max out the CPU. I know Intellidemand which I use does for sure.
When overclocking, heat is the enemy and it can damage, crash CPUs and even affect the performance of them. I believe if you are concerned about your Nexus 7 heating up (mine does for a good area between the logo and the camera when not using the ElementalX cool thermal throttling) then my advice is good.
Peace.
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Kernel is flashed separately from the ROM. Rooting is only for running apps like Trickster Mod to configure to kernel. Otherwise you can have stock 4.3 ROM with any kernel you want. Heating up will obvious affect performance due to thermal throttling but I was not concerned of damage even when the CPU of my 2012 Nexus 7 got to 80 degrees celsius from running overclocked performance stress test under direct sunlight in a case. If your CPU crashes then it's likely not overclocked correctly. Otherwise if it remains stable under artificial stress test, it will handle any game no problem.

I would really appreciate if someone explain me how exactly this function works?
I mean, tablet don't have fan, so how it keeps the cpu cool, and also what this option does to my nexus in order to keep it cooler?

I would not over clock this device. It us more than fast enough for any Android game.
Throttling does just what the word describes. In basic terms your cpu will be slowed down when getting hot and this defeats the purpose of over clocking.
I won't mention the instability that can be caused or the possibility of doing damage.
Just my thoughts.. To each how own and I do have my I7 pc cpu over clocked big time but it has a huge fan.
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I agreed, throttling and over clock doesn't make sense but this CPU is underclocked and it is designed to go higher like the one on the galaxy s4 and the GPU is meant to go higher but due to battery life Google underclock it
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Blade Zero (W1nst0n) said:
I agreed, throttling and over clock doesn't make sense but this CPU is underclocked and it is designed to go higher like the one on the galaxy s4 and the GPU is meant to go higher but due to battery life Google underclock it
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Well , its not under clocked by Google, this is underclocked cheap from the factory , its just a lower bin s600 that has been rebranded as S4 Pro .. If it was regular s600 it wouldn't be underclocked .

theofanis said:
I would really appreciate if someone explain me how exactly this function works?
I mean, tablet don't have fan, so how it keeps the cpu cool, and also what this option does to my nexus in order to keep it cooler?
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When the CPU reaches a certain temperature threshold it begins to cycle down the CPU speed in order to cool down the processor. It makes the CPU start running at lower frequencies to keep it cool.

Exactly, so a quick oc and u got a better processor without worries of damaging the chip
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Trickster Mod Thermal Throttling Settings
Hey,
If your CPU is getting hot (especially if it's overclocked and hitting 80 C or near to it) At 1944 the back of my case would get noticeably hot. I still say it isn't good for the CPU. From what I know about overclocking if any CPU gets too hot it can damage the CPU or degrade it over time. I definitely wouldn't want it even getting to 80C before it throttles but I found in Trickster Mod, even the free version, you can set the throttling to custom settings if you are rooted. Custom kernels set their voltages to scale depending on the clock speed which means lower clock speeds, less voltages, less heat. I'd rather keep the temps lower on the CPU then risk damaging the device or degrading it over time. Also you can undervolt the CPU at the kernel different clock speeds so it heats up less. You can run the free AnTuTu Benchmark stability test to see if your clock speed voltages are stable and will not crash your device. I have my CPU overclocked to 1944, thermal throttling down clocks the CPU to 1836 at 73 C, 1620 at 75 C, 1512 at 77 C and 1134 at 80 C. My voltages I lowered and are stable at 1944 - 1087500, 1890 - 1062500, 1836 - 1035000, 1728 - 1025000, 1620 - 1000000, 1512 - 987500. The lower voltages are undervolted as well but not going to list them all here.
Peace,
KedarWolf
P.S. When it was posted in this thread you can install custom kernels without rooting it is correct, I recall reading that at one point. Like it was said to use Trickster Mod, change governors or custom throttling settings you need to be rooted.

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Is it possible to overclock?

Hi there,
Is it possible to overclock the cpu and gpu?
If so how? Or which rom/kernel?
Running G model 4gb ram

Even if you can, it will chew the battery and heat up.

RobboW said:
Even if you can, it will chew the battery and heat up.
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Not a problem as I would only be using it sometimes not permanently

Kendal21 said:
Not a problem as I would only be using it sometimes not permanently
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in theory it is, we had a a kernel that OC'd the CPU way back then, but the SoCs on the Axons are probably low-binned - shutdowns and stuff like that are commonplace
But still, do you know what OC does to a phone? New phones are thermally constrained devices, starting from the snapdragon 800 series onwards. remember the sd805/810 disaster? Well...
If you run your phone at 100% load, it will run at max speed (1.56/2.15) for a very short time (say, 30 seconds), until the SoC reaches a specific temperature. After that it'll go down to a more manageable frequency, eventually going even further down or staying at 1.8 ghz, depending on your specific situation (the pink thermal blob might be bad).
That's why VR mode sets your cores at around 1.8 ghz, to keep them from going hot and lowering frequency even more. Sustained performance is better than burst performance on gaming.
Day to day usage is another matter, because more frequency won't mean thermal throttling when opening apps or unlocking the phone, beside the obvious battery usage
TL/DR: Be prepared to make your own kernel if you want to OC. It might not work