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Overclock?

I'm a speed freak. I know our CPUs are at 400mhz already, but what about pushing that further? Are there any utilities out there that can do this?

None work with the Qualcomm processor since it's dual core. It'll probably be next to impossible since the other core has to be overclocked as well and it's part of the phone side, which may screw things up. The Mogul has the same exact one.
--James

I would say that if you were in the fancy of a nice, pretty, expensive paperweight, go ahead and try to overclock your Touch.

I've overclocked tons of PPCs... what you get you in speed increases is a decrease in battery life. IMHO not work the give/take.

dharvey thanks for the useless comment. jessiethe3rd maybe some people are willing to give battery life for speed. It would be nice if people were less willing to cut down someone for what they want, and maybe answer there question instead, no opinion needed.

That's kind of why I've left this thread. No one seems to want to give helpful advice/info. They are all about telling me what i'm doing wrong.
Comes with being on the internet, though.

Please forgive my previous comment. I was in a crappy mood and I really didn't care who I offended when I posted that comment.
Unfortunately there is no true way to overclock the Touch thanks to the dual core processor. One half of the processor is used for the OS, while the other half is geared mostly for the phone features. In order to overclock one half, you would have to overclock the other as well and this could potentially put your CDMA radio out of commission. If you only decided to overclock one hald of the Processor, you would probably fry your device and I know you don't want that. I don't want that for you either.
Dan.

Desire z processor is not that power

All people calming that desire z processor @800mhz scores better in benchmarks than overlooked snapdragon ,this is not true when Iam on desire z Rom I underclocked my hd2 to 806.4 mhz (same as dz) and I got 1512 score from the first time same as Dz with its perfect GPU , SO OUR CPU PERFORMS BETTER ( you can try it yourself ) Iam not a liar ,I think the improved performance is in THE ROM itself not in the processor
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You have to remember that the benchmarks (quadrant, linpack etc) are all synthetic, like 3dmark back in the day for pc graphics cards. There are so many things that can affect your scores both adversely and positively that they should only be used as a very rough guideline and nothing more. Direct comparisons are all but pointless.

Reno_79 said:
You have to remember that the benchmarks (quadrant, linpack etc) are all synthetic, like 3dmark back in the day for pc graphics cards. There are so many things that can affect your scores both adversely and positively that they should only be used as a very rough guideline and nothing more. Direct comparisons are all but pointless.
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Iam talking to people who take quadrant as a prove for performance , I know that its results are not accurate
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I think you should use Quadrant Advanced to compare cpu scores, I know I/O scores help our HD2 a lot.

Even software affects quadrant cpu scores so it is not reliable. Quadrant benchmarks h264 decoding performance as part of cpu benchmark and for example having stagefright driver enabled inflates cpu score by double! Disable stagefright and your cpu will score 400 instead of 800. (in quadrant "advanced") if you use better software decoder it will affect cpu score by large amount. And rebenchmarking produces higher results because of caching. Mips calculating benchmarks are better (like the one in setcpu)
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That might be true but the Desire Z/G2 has a co-processor for apps that we don't have.
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psykick5 said:
That might be true but the Desire Z/G2 has a co-processor for apps that we don't have.
what is the coprocessor , desire z have same scorpion core like hd2 only with 45n.m tech
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I'd say it has a better processor... it just got overclocked to 1.4 Ghz.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-overclock-gets-even-better-and-released

wow that makes me want it

RobertsDF said:
I'd say it has a better processor... it just got overclocked to 1.4 Ghz.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-overclock-gets-even-better-and-released
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Your battey will say thank you. Your chipset too. This phone is not made for such things. That won't last very long I think. But it is quite impressive, seems to be veeeeery fast

JanssoN said:
Your battey will say thank you. Your chipset too. This phone is not made for such things. That won't last very long I think. But it is quite impressive, seems to be veeeeery fast
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+1.. imagine, a 75% overclock?? i wonder if the carpet has any burn marks on them when he lifts the phone up, or if his face has any burn marks that's why he's not showing it up on the cam.. lol.. because a 75% OC on a very small device where there is not enough room to breathe, the whole phone would be like a big heatsink if used for a period of time.. and i guess that's also the reason why HTC slapped the 800mhz cpu instead of the 1ghz.. i'm our HD2 can achieve such high of an OC, but it wouldn't be adviceable as it would melt/crack the solder joints on the GPU and/or processor of the phone at that kind of heat.. and i believe that the GPU and apllication coprocessor that they're talking about on the G2 is just a marketing ploy to justify it's price tag.. maybe to cope up with the build price since there are moving parts (hinge) and the hard keyboard.. even the guy at the tmobile store told me that the G2 isn't fast at all.. he said it's nothing close to evo or the nexus one as some people and websites claims.. funny when he asked my what kind of phone do i have.. i pulled my HD2 and showed it to him.. he was surprised to see Android on it and asked me if he could play with it.. so i let him.. and after playing with it for a while, he advised me to wait for the new phone device that's supposed to come out before the end of the year.. he even told me that getting a G2 would be the same as downgrading as he feels that my HD2 is way way faster than the G2.. i told him i'm thinking about getting the vibrant because the port for our HD2 is nothing close to being perfect and that it's still running from the SD card.. again he discouraged me and told me to wait for the next phone device to come.. so i guess that's what i will do..

I'm surprised that you were in store and didn't test drive G2 for yourself, are you sure he is sale person?, he didn't sound like one.

justwonder said:
I'm surprised that you were in store and didn't test drive G2 for yourself, are you sure he is sale person?, he didn't sound like one.
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as a matter of fact i did.. that's actually one of the main reason why i went to the store, as i've been reading a lot of good things on G2.. i went there to compare the G2 with the samsung vibrant.. but through the end, i didn't like the G2's performance despite the fact that it's the only phone right now on TMo that supports the HSPA+.. and yes he's a sales person.. i was surprised as well when he told me about the upcoming desire HD.. but that didn't happen until i showed my HD2 to him and let him play with it for a while.. maybe he knows that i'm a phone enthusiast and that i might just end up returning the phone within the 30 days period after playing with the G2.. who knows?? i think the G2 is wayyy overrated.. it performs within it's specs, nothing special..

RobertsDF said:
I'd say it has a better processor... it just got overclocked to 1.4 Ghz.
http://www.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-g2-overclock-gets-even-better-and-released
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Desire Z overclocks to exactly same speeds. Record OC is 1470MHz.
So they are same CPUs, clocked at different speeds. Bigger screen = higher clock to handle bigger screen.
EDIT: Desire Z overclocks to 1.7GHz at 1400mv
EDIT: Desire Z overclocks to 1.9GHz at 1500mv

All aboiut OVERCLOCKING thread.

I wonder if we really "need" to overclock this beastly CPU of ours? Hell, even if i underclock to 1Ghz, most task if not all are done fast, really fast. Talking about games? Modern FPS games are driven by both CPU and GPU and thus doesnt require much of horsepower of the CPU. Im confuse why numbers of people here are crying "why they are not stable @ 1.8Ghz"? ... Even if you set it @ 1.8Ghz max, our phone will barely reach this clockspeed because other cores will kick-in in less than maximum speed of the primary core (if im right?) ... Is it just for Benchmark figures? Good figures doesnt equates to good performance and we all know that... Can you really sacrifice "Stability" for the sake of some "Ego-driven faaassssstttt BM"?

I swear, some people are just so dense. Why don't we all drive Honda civics? Do we really need a car with over 200hp and can top out at 150mph when most speed limits are 65mph? Why do we bother eating at expensive restaurants when we could save a ton and eat at mcdonalds? People have preferences...it's what makes the world go 'round. If people want to overclock, let them have it.

lude219 said:
I swear, some people are just so dense. Why don't we all drive Honda civics? Do we really need a car with over 200hp and can top out at 150mph when most speed limits are 65mph? Why do we bother eating at expensive restaurants when we could save a ton and eat at mcdonalds? People have preferences...it's what makes the world go 'round. If people want to overclock, let them have it.
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Haha good one.
I drive a v8 6.0L lumina SS, my pc is o/c'd from 2.6Ghz to 3.8Ghz Quad core, ram is overclocked to 1700mhz, have crossfired 2 5870s and tested them at 900mhz, my SIII is overclocked to 1800mhz, my LG O3D is oc @ 1350mhz (1ghz original) I guess i like fast things Maybe the OP is just a laid back happy go lucky fella and if everyone is like him we would be all driving steam powered cars and flying in propeller planes

Ok, you got me Guys .. But what pissed me is that this people all points their finger to the Kernel or Dev when they have reboots and heat-ups which is obviously the effect of their Overclocking... i can remmber a post; "damn, why i cant reach 1.8Ghz without random reboot, please fix"...

I actually agree with the op personally and I have been developing on android for four years since the g1, I don't see the need to over clock this phone as it runs really well all of the time,I too had the optimus 3d and that definitely needed overclocking as that was so painstakingly sluggish without it. the only reason I would overclock is for benchmark results other than that its just another drain on the battery for no real world performance gain
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jaytana said:
Ok, you got me Guys .. But what pissed me is that this people all points their finger to the Kernel or Dev when they have reboots and heat-ups which is obviously the effect of their Overclocking... i can remmber a post; "damn, why i cant reach 1.8Ghz without random reboot, please fix"...
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you just can't fix ignorance. if someone doesn't understand the concept and risks of overclocking, let them figure it out. sometimes it irks me to encounter posts like that as well.

androidfanboi said:
I actually agree with the op personally and I have been developing on android for four years since the g1, I don't see the need to over clock this phone as it runs really well all of the time,I too had the optimus 3d and that definitely needed overclocking as that was so painstakingly sluggish without it. the only reason I would overclock is for benchmark results other than that its just another drain on the battery for no real world performance gain
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Off topic: Optimus3D ROM is one of the most poorly optimize in modern Android flagships... I too had one, running it with AOSP is buttery smooth but also have some compromises...

I am sure you are missing the main idea of overclocking. First of all people normally do it to achieve better results in benchmark. But more and more are starting to do it for better performance and so. Overclocking a phone is useful for the first mainly, I doubt that anyone would overclock their phone in order to play games with better fps for instance. The whole idea is bad, there is a large difference between a phone with minimal cooling and a big ass desktop with 50 fans. If we want our devices to last longer we needn't touch them to make them "faster".

When I can overclock to 1.6gh AND under volt to 50mv below the stock voltage for 1.4GHZ it's pretty much a no-brainer
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Any combo for playing Gta:Sa without lagg(Redmi Note 4g S. SIM)

Hi Xda
I need a combo of rom and kernel or mods. By which i can have fantastic Gaming performance on my redmi note 4g 1.6Ghz (DIOR)
or if any one have played Gta:Sa on their phone without any lagg..[i don't even care about resolution]
but there shouldn't be any lagg anywhere! So please tell me.. I wanna use 1.6Ghz power of my hardware! Thanx..
And yes i tried a kernel over clocked kernel but wifi stopped working! So yeah

No i don't think so because your cpu is based on 32 bit architecture and gpu isn't good enough to give you the power you want.. So you better buy a high-end smartphone.. But wait what.. There isn't any good high-end smartphone available in the market right all of them have some sort of problem so heck yeah you better wait..! (is that True though?)

ReallyReally? No one's interested in telling me? ... Please i really want to know

More GPU power

I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.

they are slowly getting better

What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..

JF-GINO said:
What we need is proper kernel sources so there can be a custom kernel built with GPU improvements, governors and overclock. I just wont count on that any time soon for this phone..
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Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.

Alok Bajaj said:
Overclocking just doesn't help much. All the GPU power is needed for gaming. Overclocking causes heating which throttles down CPU freqs. And over clocking really doesn't help much other than first 10-15 minutes.
My suggestion was just that they should have added more GPU clusters. This GPU is found in low budget devices.
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Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games

i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.

xontec said:
Sorry, but for real gaming get a PC and even there U could use a Emulator for Android games
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I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?

sikica133 said:
i actually disagree with this. this mali quad cluster is on par, if not better than adreno 510 found in what is pretty much considered the best bang for the buck cpu out there, snap 650/2. not only is 650 a upper midrange/flasghsip material SoC, it performs generally quite well and runs everything. kirin beats it's gpu, or at least matches it, and wipes the floor with it when it comes to cpu power. sure, gpu is not 530 or mali mp12, but then again we paid a midrange price and got a flagship phone. it's a compromise. despite that, it still runs everything ok so its an acceptable gpu. not rly sure you'd see a huge difference between this gpu and mp12 on s7 since one on s7 has to push double the pixels, so real difference should be 50ish% tops. most gpu benches run the screen @ 1080P and sure, in that case it beats our cluster, but that's not s7's native resolution is it.
in the end, imo its worth it since the entire package simply performs great. i've had my share of phones, and this lil monster simply kills it, even without a custom rom. its just that well optimized.
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This is not a flagship GPU. Chinese phone generally offer more at this price. LeEco Le2 has this same GPU and costs ~⅓ of this phone's price. Xiaomi MI5 has an adreno 530 and it costs lesser than this phone. I would say a custom MP8 MALI GPU could have taken this phone to a different class. And yeah benchmark scores doesn't make any sense to me. They have just show some score based on 2 mins of testing. We can't conclude real life use with benchmark scores

xiaomi / letv phones might offer better specs for price, in china or india. there are some major issues when buying those, especially for ppl in europe/US. chinese brands are hard to come by, and even if you buy them for cheap/order from china you're pretty much stuck with a phone and no warranty. shipping to china is usually not worth considering the price. if you actually find a retailer that will sell lets say mi5 and provide a 2yr warranty, phone tends to cost a lot more than honor, at least thats the case where I'm at (EU). not to mention you can get honor8 for cheap when signing a contract. good luck doing that with chinese brands.
this is not a rant about chinese brands (myb rant bout xiaomi cause their open source policy is crap), i still use my rn3p and its been mostly satisfying esp. with CM13. however its been less then a year and it already started behaving badly. quality & control simply isnt on par. it was cheap sure, but it dies fast too, and there is no way for me to repair it. it is what it is, a compromise. cheap and you risk it, lil more expensive, but at least you're safe.
oh and in regards to mi5, unless you buy that premium version, phone is actually quite disappointing. build quality is meh, performance might be decent, but miui8 performs worse than EMUI so day to day usage is kinda pain. wish they did smth with that crapware os they ship. debloating is first step

I agree to what you say, but I won't include Mali T880 MP4 to a flagship hardware.

well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD

sikica133 said:
well you could say it's not flagship compared to the likes of snap820/1 / exynos, but it's the best huawei has to offer. for 1080p its acceptable. people that dont game really wont be able to tell a difference, for rest it just works. if you really look at kirin SoC's, even the gpu in 960 isnt top of the line. sure it kinda manages to narrow the gap with mentioned SoC's, but new ones are around the corner and kirin will again be worse in gpu department. this is standard for huawei honestly. same goes for mtk tho, yet mtk is widely popular (sure cheap price is the main reason) despite pretty crappy gpu. goes to show most ppl dont really need that top of the line gpu on board.
if hauwei was smart, they could've simply avoided this issue by releasing complete source. well built custom rom would be smth that most enthusiast would prefer over maxed out gpu. guess this wont happen tho xD
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Well Kirin 960 has a very good GPU. Far better than this one. But again it has only 8 clusters which is good as of now. The new smartphones which will be using Mali G71 will have 16 clusters I guess. Cause that GPU can be configured upto 32 clusters. And Mali G71 MP8 isn't bad at all. It's really powerful and it can keep most demanding games run smoothly more than a year or two. But Mali T880 MP4 can't, only vulkan can help a bit. And I heard vulkan is kinda outdated/broken here in Nougat update. That's a bad news.

Alok Bajaj said:
I wish this device had a better GPU. More likely a custom Mali T880 MP8 or MP12. This phone is what Huawei calls their flagship phone. Only GPU has let it down. Mali T880 MP4 can't just handle everything so smoothly in full HD.
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Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..

Nyssa1104 said:
Let get this correct Huawei don't call this their flagship phone.
This is Honor flagship phone, which is a separate brand Huawei has been pushing for a few years now..
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Okay. Whatever the brand is this is what they call their flagship phone. But it lacks some GPU power. I'm experiencing a very bad GPU performance on this phone. I've to enable ROG mode if I'm to play mc5 smoothly. And powering a HD display even my three year old tablet with Adreno 320 does a better job.

well, kirin 955 = 950 when it comes to gpu performance, so gpu debate stands for now ex flagship p9 which has pretty much same specs as honor8.
as far as performance goes 320 is deffo worse than mali880. in 99% cases adreno 510 is better than 320, so 880mp4 should be too. im guessing either bad optimizations from huawei or devs are the culprit.

Alok Bajaj said:
I have a PC and not all games work well with emulators. And it's completely a different experience. I can't put my pc in my pocket ?
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You can get a nividia shield cloned app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem. if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only on the PC

Sorry for being redundant, but this is not Huawei's flagship phone, it's a budget phone. If you want their flagship get the Mate 9. Or maybe the upcoming Honor V9. The 'Honor' brand to me is a (budget) offshoot similar to Oppo to OnePlus. It makes sense for them to use a word in their brand name that western people are actually able to pronounce.
If would help if EMUI5 has the 720p mode working, but currently it doesn't. I'm afraid to use Android ADB command to force it, because it most likely won't look correctly and sometimes soft brick phones that isn't running stock Android, which is a pain to setup the phone from scratch.

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You can nividia shield get a Clone app and you can even Play gta5 on your Phone dont know whats your Problem than if you have LTE you can Stream every game to your Phone. By the way the real feeling of gaming is only in the PC
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Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.

Alok Bajaj said:
Nvidia shield isn't a phone ? I'd buy it if it's a phone.
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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
Oh it was weired english i edited the post sorry.
It was to early in the morning

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Yeah but you can get a App that simulates nividia shield on your phone sorry maybe i expressed myself wrong
So you can play on your phone like on shield
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There's something called liquid sky. But then I'll have sell my house paying the internet bills.