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New developers where to start

I am starting this thread in hopes of learning more about the epic and how make my own roms and kernels and all storts of goodies my hope is that all the new people like myself can read this thread and learn what they need to know in order to become great developers
So my first question is how do you make your own rom?
(please if you are a new developer stay in this thread with your questions)
"and for all the more exp developers please help the new developers"

josephrr21 said:
I am starting this thread in hopes of learning more about the epic and how make my own roms and kernels and all storts of goodies my hope is that all the new people like myself can read this thread and learn what they need to know in order to become great developers
So my first question is how do you make your own rom?
(please if you are a new developer stay in this thread with your questions)
"and for all the more exp developers please help the new developers"
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Get on irc id be glad to help you out. Don't listen to the people who are going to try and discourage you.

bubby323 said:
Get on irc id be glad to help you out. Don't listen to the people who are going to try and discourage you.
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That's the kind of attitude I like to see. Thank you bubby323, you maybe young, but you have a lot of maturity.
Way to set an example.

Id defo love to help out, its too many selfish, arrogant, assholes who dont wanna help out the community and just want fame

This is what we need to see, more people trying to get involved.
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josephrr21, you got my support

I would like to start developing for the we epic . I have a linux box trying to get it set up . I have tried to get everything like it says on cyanogen to build from source just not very proficient at linux . Any help is very welcomed . Like where to start . Thanks
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Kingmac38 said:
I would like to start developing for the we epic . I have a linux box trying to get it set up . I have tried to get everything like it says on cyanogen to build from source just not very proficient at linux . Any help is very welcomed . Like where to start . Thanks
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If your looking for a good place to start, I would say this would be it. A good dev here showed me this link when I asked him much the same question.
http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html

Thank you very much a good start
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You got my support!!!

If you really want to play around check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
This can be used on any rom!!

Thanks for clearing that up . I didn't know if it would work or not since it said htc and not just android kitchen. Thank you very much
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Wow I know.this a dumb queztion but what is the irc and thanks guys for.all.the support lets keep this thread.like this ,this is what me and alot of other developers need

Irc = internet relay chat
Popular clients are mirc and xchat.
I'm currently trying pidgin.
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Mammon88 said:
If you really want to play around check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
This can be used on any rom!!
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If you like the more, in-depth, manual approach to learning. Below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1

first of all get a dedicated irc client, they tend to be soo much better then the all in ones.
second i dont know much about development but i am fairly knowledgeable able all around android
when you get an irc client (xchat ftw) there is a sticky with the required info

Damn... This is some nice info. Now I'll never go to bed. Thanks!
If this was 2 weeks ago... you would have never got this, it seems a happiness has come to the Epic Forums. lol
Now if only we could talk noobnl into staying.

First its how you approach things. Coming on here and demanding a Gingerbread port in 15 minutes is just dumb. Asking for resources... Great. I've saved some on my toolbar for firefox. I have an idea, but want to do more research myself before I cook something up. Its not something I'd personally use, but I know a lot of people have asked for it on here.

[Q] Anyone Developing ??

Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome

itzsmokey said:
Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome
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devs have to have the phone in order to make things for it. I believe 2 people have it so far and are working on it.
The phones been out maybe a month, have patience

There are 4 roms in development thread, OC/UV kernel.... what else do you need?
This belongs in Q&A section, not development.

Yes... We have a oc/uv kernel. several roms. several developers.
Other known developers should be getting their phones soon.
[zinx from CMteam and enomther from ds/nexus one]
Satisfy your flashing needs with iced glacier.

Simple answer to your simple question: yes
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scoochv said:
Simple answer to your simple question: yes
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That's where the thread should have ended. I mean, the question was posted in a forum where several threads for ROMs are...same page even, just a couple threads down.
There is soooo much you can learn by taking just 15 mins and browsing the forums for the MT4G.

you
you are developing

What a disrespectful post.
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I know
sudo apt-get sense of humor

I meant the OP. But yeah, I remember waiting months with other phones just for a simple Android update.

Yes your right there are 4 ROM's to bad they are all mostly the same with a few different tweaks, just look at other phones that devs have completely different types of ROM's....and its not a disrespectful post because all I hear is about great devs working hard on ROM's for other phones yet I don't really hear much about them working on the mt4g, not saying they are not but its nice to hear that someone is working on something....why must you guys ***** about something so simple for no reason....sheeesh
And thanks to those with a simple answer..since that was all that was needed

You are the one making a stupid post. You have a question and then you answer your own question by saying there is no one "paying attention" to it. What other phone that has been out as long as the myTouch 4g has so many "completely different" type of Roms? Most Roms tend to be built off a few main sources with tweaks like you said, the super popular Moto Droid has about 4 of those tops.

Oh my God...listen no one forced you to read this post...get off your damn high horse...this a q&a thread....not a question then ***** about it thread....if you have no answer move on to the next post....the dudes from earlier answered my question perfectly also found out zinx got the mytouch4g thanks to that post...stop being useless or keep it moving..
Also I got high hopes for zinx...dude does wonders

itzsmokey said:
Simple question....does anyone know if there are any people out there that are really developing stuff for this awesome phone.....sucks that we get not feed back on mod and stuff....best T-Mobile phone out and no one is even paying attention to it.....smh.....Cyanogenmod would be awesome
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Anyone reading

Mod will you either delete or move this thread to general please.
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zinx is taking over as the CM retainer for the MT4G since kmobs unfortunately had issues with UPS and such. once a phone has a CM rom, so many others make a CM based rom. So be patient and in due time there will be a slough of roms for this awesome phone
@teamsilence hahaha nice man! way to integrate linux and humor

CyanogenMod Epic maintainer stepped down, transition successful

I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!

noobnl said:
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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wait... what?

I guess you're leaving for good (again)?

apatcas said:
wait... what?
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He gave all his work to the cyanogenmod team and is probably leaving for good... but I don't know completely
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Peace
10 Char

noobnl said:
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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Nah man regardless just got to the developer section and see how many topics are started by noobl or reference him. Dude is important on these forums and we which him the best because lets face it he did a lot of good around here.

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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noobnl has done more for the epic than most people on this forum have, and only a handful of developers have contributed equal or more. most of the people who post here and make roms simply theme a few files and call it developing. what you need to understand that even though they have cm7 booting, noob had cm6 booting months ago, that isn't the hard part. the hard part is getting the radios and data to work, noob did this with help from very few people, and it took a long time (because he largely did it by himself minus help from skeeterslint forcystos and a few others) but so far not ONE other people have managed to accomplish this task.
:middlefinger:

I wish him the the best, and also we don't know what happened behind closed doors, metaphorically speaking. So lets just leave it at this.
Sent From My Command Center... (aka basement)

The proper reply to this post is "Thanks for all your hard work and dedication noobnl! i hope you decide to help out more in the future"

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!

Appreciate your work man. I'm sure your sweat equity will be beneficial to everyone in getting this off the ground.

Thanks for all the hard work you put into both the CM6 project and the Epic as a whole. Your efforts have gotten us really far in this game. Even for the stuff you indirectly accomplished, like gaining the attention of some of the more seasoned devs, so that we could get more stuff done.
You're definitely a great resource and this community is better for it.

I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.

+1 thanks.
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ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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High level of douchebaggery in this post.
Anyways, like everyone else said, thanks for all your work and contributions
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Thanks for everything you've done, its appreciated... how long until you come back??
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dmanwithnoname said:
I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.
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I hope I never grow up ;-)
Thanx for all of your past work noobnl, hope to see you back contributing someday...
sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos

AmericanJedi001 said:
You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!
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My post may have been a little harsh, but obviously you don't know what you're talking about. In regards to CM7, the team of Dameon and others aren't relying on what noobnl has contributed. In fact, who do you think this blog post was aimed towards?
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/a-note-on-unofficial-ports-and-how-to-get-it-right
Dameon and others are trying to get it done the "right way".
It appears, to me at least, that noobnl is attempting (by starting this thread) to get some kind of credit for the work they're putting together, which is probably very little, if any. And if any, I'm sure he'll get the credit he deserves.
Sure, noobnl has done a lot for the community, I for one certainly appreciate it, but that's not what this thread is about now is it?

hmmm, so sounds like we have two dev-groups working on CM now because I'm pretty sure the recently announced group working on CM7 basically said straight up they had yet to even look at noobls progress bc it wasn't actually CM worthy and bc they started group up.
so using logic we can see that noobls 'transition' is to a different group. to bad he won't enlighten us on who that other group is. imagine that, half a statement that tells us not much at all and then some "look at me and what i did" statement, as usual.

Kifno's Lessons

I would like to start teaching people about android so if you would like to learn from me about:
- Making Roms
- Scripting
- Modding
- Theming
Then please post here what you'd like to learn about and PM me as well and I'll send you a lesson every night or every other night about that category. You can choose all 4 or just 1. It doesn't matter I'm here to help you, yeah YOU!
- Kifno

I'd like to just understand more about all of the topics. Not to be a dev, but just to be able to communicate better on this forum about it. Like I understand digitals VMS os but always hated to work with unix, so I learned very little about it.. What is scripting ? what is meant by modding, etc.
Thanks Kevin, Ted O.

Houndog101 said:
I'd like to just understand more about all of the topics. Not to be a dev, but just to be able to communicate better on this forum about it. Like I understand digitals VMS os but always hated to work with unix, so I learned very little about it.. What is scripting ? what is meant by modding, etc.
Thanks Kevin, Ted O.
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Modding as in learning what I do in my tweak
Scripting is I'll give you bash script lessons

Also the lessons won't start until next week sometime because I wan to gather a group of students first. Right now I have a small class of 8 people. I'm only starting next week so that I can make a plan on where I'm going to start teaching you and the process I'm going to go about teaching you more (what should I teach you after what I previously taught you so that the lessons flow together). but I'm sure I can teach you all enough so that you all can start doing something for xda too

I wanna learn how to port and make my own rom, add me to your list!

someonenewhere said:
I wanna learn how to port and make my own rom, add me to your list!
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I'm still learning how port roms so that's new to me too. But as for making a rom I can help you with that so you're on the rom list sir

you can show me to how to sign a rom zip lol..

someonenewhere said:
you can show me to how to sign a rom zip lol..
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Sent you a pm
Oh and if you're reading this and you are new to xda. You don't have to want to learn the big things I listed. If you want to know something as simple as what someonenewhere asked then you can. I'm here to help you learn

I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.

Nsandhu23 said:
I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en

I want to learn something about all of it , not to be a dev. , but to understand what they do , so I can react better to posts/etc. Thanks Kevin,.

Why don't you post in a thread(s) instead of in pm's that no one else will see? Are you just trying to limit the number of questions and comments you get back?

Nsandhu23 said:
I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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On the list the.lessons will start tonight probably so join now preferably but if others want to learn from me later I will still teach you. And nice I have a class of ten
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maxpower47 said:
Why don't you post in a thread(s) instead of in pm's that no one else will see? Are you just trying to limit the number of questions and comments you get back?
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I'd rather teach one on one makes it easier for me to get to learn my students and how they learn and how fast , and how to go about teaching them
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I wouldn't mind learning all of it but would prefer a classroom environment but since you're the teacher I will do whatever you think is best.

I'd like to learn about all 4 it would be an honor to pick ur brain
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joed1960 said:
I wouldn't mind learning all of it but would prefer a classroom environment but since you're the teacher I will do whatever you think is best.
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One on one is best for my teaching style. I have my reasons and you'll see if you learn from me

Cai6978 said:
I'd like to learn about all 4 it would be an honor to pick ur brain
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Hehe thanks and lessons will begin soon I promise I've been busy trying to figure out the sense lockscreen for my gingersense rom and typing a explanation for all my tweaks for my v2.0 tweak.

kifno said:
One on one is best for my teaching style. I have my reasons and you'll see if you learn from me
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One on one is ok with me.

joed1960 said:
One on one is ok with me.
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Cool After I finish test v2.0 (major changes made to it from v1.5 so that its all mine and its much better that v1.5 )
edit: i didn't finish my sentence lol...but after i finish i'm going to type up the first lesson and introduction about myself and the private classes

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+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.

I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?

jesusice said:
I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?

strapped365 said:
Last Activity: 21st October 2011 04:32 AM
that kinda makes me wonder, its been a long while since he has even been online so why get the community all hyped up?
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Your a day late and about a dollar short

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I'd love to see lithid dev for the Shift but has there been any indication that he's at all interested?
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I'm not sure how busy he is with his other projects now that he's joined the cm team, but we could at least get salvagemod or some other ports perhaps. I for one want salvagemod even if it is just gingerbread. I've tried to port it but well, I'm just not him...I've emailed him but I think he's interested even though I have not heard a response yet. And salvagemod does have it's own nightlies. Who knows, he could bring more then just salvagemod, but I'm not going to jump the gun and start expecting things right away.

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+1 Good thread sparksco! I'll see if I can donate the one that broke my fall. Need to see if I can work some magic to do so.
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ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now

bumped OP and fixed development threads link.

So I was lurking in evo thread and came across this lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18431900#post18431900

Thanks Sparksco. Keep up the good work. We need more devs around here like you. Great convo on IRC with you tonight.

sparksco said:
ok, well if not we can get a charity thing going maybe? Post who wants to donate, how much ect. I'll pitch 20 bucks but not more because I'm broke right now
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I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
I'd donate at least 20 to get him over here but only if he wants to and people are committed to getting him to the shift side
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Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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sparksco said:
Well like I said I still have yet to hear anything back from him. What would you say if someone offered you a free phone? And if we do get him a shift no one can expect anything. We can hope for the best I guess. I will even help port/compile salvagemod if need be and contribute to the projects as much as possible. I think that is what it really comes down to. Who wants salvagemod and is will to help contribute to it by at least providing logcats? I mean seriously all I ever see in the forums is people complaining but never offering anything usefull. If I'm the only person then I doubt he will want to do it...
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Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Yeah i'd take a free phone if people were willing to donate to me. Salvagemod does seem good and i'm glad your willing to help, I've always appreciated what you've done with the shift and if i knew anything about logcats and knew how to provide them i would if anyone needed them but my computer skills are very little in the coding department as i got kicked out of college but i'm all for him coming over and trying to help out as much as possible
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Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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notsointeresting said:
Good tip ...for logcat, go to command prompt and type "ADB Logcat" and viloa
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lol now all i have to do is set up ADB on my computer. New HDD and never set up anything for android

So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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notsointeresting said:
So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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drob311 said:
Salvage mod is not your standard cm7 alike... Get a clue before you waste space on a thread with dumb uninformed comments... But that's right you call yourself a dev so why don't you compile salvage mod or any rom for that matter? Because you can't... Just my two cents...
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Why did you have to be such a jerkoff??? He was just stating his opinion and as such, you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child. Your abrasive comment was not needed nor was it called for. Now I'm starting to see why people are leaving XDA, people don't know how to act correctly.

notsointeresting said:
So I just want to share an opinion, don't take this as hating because I'm not I respect lithid like I do any developer.
That being said, I don't see the point.
First off your main argument is that he COULD bring SalavageMod.
Why do we need it in the first place? It would just clutterup our threads with another AOSP ROM. We have plenty (Cyclonic,CM7,Evervolv,Shiftdeck). As far as I know it is not our goal to be cluttering up the shift forums with countless ROMS that are basically the same with different themes
Second of all is the obvious point other people have made. Does he even WANT to. Yes, he would be a worthy person to donate a device to just based on previous expierence from him, but if he isn't as interested as other people what's the point. You just made the assumption that he would, you even said he has not replied, so until then I think this should be put on hold.
These are just my points,
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Don't let one person get to you for many people (including myself) appreciate your work.

Yes he was stating his opinion just like drob was. He is right about salvagemod, but that is no reason to try to discredit salvagemod or say that we don't need more roms. What's wrong with more roms? It's a aosp rom that has very little cm stuff in it. It doesn't matter now anyways, we will not be getting salvagemod and I am not at liberty to say why. I can say people attacking is not helping devs stick to xda.
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you would THINK that people would act like a MAN instead of a little child.
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One can hope...
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