Quite a while back, I lost root and I lost my Google apps functionality after a new update was pushed, and so I followed this thread to get my Google services working again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401486&highlight=google+services&page=1 <-- that thread contained links to a download of a file that installed like an app that "fixed" Google services frameworks and apps that were broken after an update was pushed, but that download is no longer available.
I had since rooted again using KFU, and when the last update to 6.3 was pushed, I was pleasantly surprised that the update, while breaking root again, did NOT screw up my Google apps -- gmail, maps and gTalk all still worked fine! I don't know how, but when I look in my system/app folder, the one that gets cleared/overwritten when updated, there are no Google services framework or app apks in there at all, yet my Google apps all work fine (not sure where the framework and apps are installed now). I have since rooted once again using KFU. I'm a bit techy, so I don't mind messing around a bit with my device, BUT....
I am getting a kindle fire for my mother -- I'm going to set it up with GO launcher, a bunch of sideloaded apps, and I would like to also install gmail, maps and gTalk without requiring root to be maintained, basically because I am then going to ship the device to her and will not want to continue to root and restore the google apps' functionality after every next update is pushed, because I would have to get her to do this while I walk her through the process over the phone, and this is not something that would make anybody happy.
So, I am hoping we can revive the discussion about how to install the Google services framework and apps without requiring root or at least in hopes that future updates will not break them. I am not opposed to rooting the device while I set it up, because I will want to install a permanent animated wallpaper, but I will unroot it so that Amazon Video will work before I send it off.
I have done quite a bit of searching through old threads, and there is not much talk about installing Google services and apps without root and so that updates don't screw with them. But I know it can be done, because it is working with mine.
I think this would be helpful to a LOT of people who are not yet ready to root and/or flash a new ROM.
If its the stock Kindle Fire interface you want, just root it and flash the MoDaCo rom. It comes prepackaged with gapps and gsf and (I think) you don't have to keep re-rooting .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21282484
Thanks, but no ROMs. Gotta be stock kf with launcher and google apps.
All, I have a few assumptions and questions to bounce off you knowledgeable folks, since this is a forum of ideas:
As I recall, Google Services Framework and various Google apps are installed as "system apps" by using adb to push them to the system/apps folder. At least, I think this was how I did it back in December when I first got my Kindle Fire (maybe there are other ways, I dunno). And as system apps they install on bootup if not already installed. But the downside to these being installed this way is that when Amazon pushes an update, the update wipes the contents of the system/apps folder and replaces all apps there, so that our Google Services Framework and other Google apps are lost when Amazon updates.
Am I correct so far?
I have at some point installed Titanium Backup and possibly converted my Google Services Framework and other Google apps to "user apps", because when I look in the list of installed apps in Titanium Backup, I see that my Google Services Framework and other Google apps are listed in white and not red which means that they are "user apps" and not "system apps" (forgive my memory here, middle age is set in, so I don't remember what I have done with Titanium Backup -- should have kept a log).
So my questions: Could my Google Services Framework and other Google apps be now immune to Amazon updates screwing with them simply because they are user apps and not system apps (possibly converted with Titanium Backup)? Is this the solution to having Google Services Framework and other Google apps immune to Amazon updates? Am I answering my own questions (lol) or am I possibly missing something here?
Also, my Google Market app updated itself to Play Store at some point around the time that Amazon pushed update 6.3 and in Titanium Backup it is listed in green instead of red or white, so that there is no option to convert to system or user app.... not sure what that is all about.
If anybody is actually taking the time to follow me here, I appreciate it. I am just trying to figure out a way to take a brand new kindle fire, temp root it, set it up with all sorts of neat stuff like GO launcher, live wallpaper and Google apps galore, then unroot so that Amazon video works, and give it away as a super cool Android Tab for only $200 that is immune to Amazon Updates breaking the Google apps. This is my goal, and I hope it is useful to others as well.
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So my questions: Could my Google Services Framework and other Google apps be now immune to Amazon updates screwing with them simply because they are user apps and not system apps (possibly converted with Titanium Backup)? Is this the solution to having Google Services Framework and other Google apps immune to Amazon updates? Am I answering my own questions (lol) or am I possibly missing something here?
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I think you are basically correct. Other than GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk, none of my google apps have stopped working after an Amazon update, and while I did nothing special to cause this, the speculation around here has been that updates to the apps caused them to get installed properly as user apps so they would keep working. What you may have done with titanium backup may have had the same effect, or it may have been coincidence (I will definitely have to check Titanium backup and see if I can do anything with GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter, because if I can get that to survive updates, I won't have much need to root anymore).
I will try this today as I am doing a similar thing and anything that can prevent the google app store from stopping will be much appreciated.
I've had my Fire since January. Never rooted but did install Google services framework the first week I got it. Pretty sure this is the thread I followed to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1401486 I've sideloaded Gmail, Books, Reader, Google+, Google Music and Youtube. All have continued to work fine after 2 updates from Amazon. So far the only Google apps that haven't worked for me were Currents and Play Store. As long as those 2 apps aren't dealbreakers this would accomplish most of your goals. You can change the stock wallpaper and get it to stick by using he app Rotating Wallpaper (not sure if it supports live wallpapers). By doing these things and using GoLauncher my Fire does everything I want it to without rooting. One other thought... you might want to consider putting Dropbox on it with a folder you can put apps (and updates) in to share with your Mom. Good luck.
I just checked and Google Talk doesn't work doing it this way. Also, the app Rotating Wallpaper doesn't support live wallpapers.
soupmagnet said:
If its the stock Kindle Fire interface you want, just root it and flash the MoDaCo rom. It comes prepackaged with gapps and gsf and (I think) you don't have to keep re-rooting .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21282484
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You don't have to keep rooting? Are we sure about this? I have been reading about the MoDaCo ROMs and seeing the question asked, "will it still get the pushed Amazon updates?", and so far the answers have been yes. So it will get the amazon updates, which always break root and play store. Sure we could reflash the ROM but then it will get the update again, and on and on.
Are MoDaCo ROMs immune to Amazon updates? Are MoDaCo ROMs immune to Amazon updates breaking root and PlayStore?
I am really hoping that someone can confirm the above response, because if not, it will be a lesson learned about not believing the misinformation that some folks hastily post as a response to a question without actually addressing the question. I know he qualified it with "(I think)"... I should have paid more attention and confirmed that thought.
The reason I ask is because 6.3.1 was pushed to both mine and my mother's KFs a few nights ago just before I was ready to send it off to her for Mother's Day, and mine was bricked as a result, until I spent a couple of hours poking at it with KFU and adb to get it to properly boot and flash the updated ROM Amazon pushed. After that headache, I didn't want that to happen to my mother's with the next update in a month if I could not be around to fix it. So I decided to take the next step and load a ROM, MoDaCo GR8, on both mine first and then my mother's, and I already sent hers off yesterday, in haste. I am reading today that what was implied above may not be true -- that MoDaCo ROMs do get the Amazon updates and when Amazon pushes the next update, her KF could lose root and Play Store at best and be bricked at worst.
Without root, how can you mount system as rw?
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gruuvin said:
You don't have to keep rooting? Are we sure about this? I have been reading about the MoDaCo ROMs and seeing the question asked, "will it still get the pushed Amazon updates?", and so far the answers have been yes. So it will get the amazon updates, which always break root and play store. Sure we could reflash the ROM but then it will get the update again, and on and on.
Are MoDaCo ROMs immune to Amazon updates? Are MoDaCo ROMs immune to Amazon updates breaking root and PlayStore?
I am really hoping that someone can confirm the above response, because if not, it will be a lesson learned about not believing the misinformation that some folks hastily post as a response to a question without actually addressing the question. I know he qualified it with "(I think)"... I should have paid more attention and confirmed that thought.
The reason I ask is because 6.3.1 was pushed to both mine and my mother's KFs a few nights ago just before I was ready to send it off to her for Mother's Day, and mine was bricked as a result, until I spent a couple of hours poking at it with KFU and adb to get it to properly boot and flash the updated ROM Amazon pushed. After that headache, I didn't want that to happen to my mother's with the next update in a month if I could not be around to fix it. So I decided to take the next step and load a ROM, MoDaCo GR8, on both mine first and then my mother's, and I already sent hers off yesterday, in haste. I am reading today that what was implied above may not be true -- that MoDaCo ROMs do get the Amazon updates and when Amazon pushes the next update, her KF could lose root and Play Store at best and be bricked at worst.
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I can tell you that I flashed MoDaCo GR8 before the recent push of 6.3.1 and my KF was not affected at all by the update. I wouldn't have known that there had been an update if I hadn't read about it here. I have also read 3 or 4 post by other GR8 users indicating that they hadn't been affected either. I read the entire MoDaCo thread and I am pretty sure that the developer made a comment in it somewhere that he was incorporating something that he hoped would prevent the auto updates from messing things up. Based upon my experience it looks like he was successful.
Now for the disclaimer, just because MoDaCo wasn't affected this time doesn't guarantee that it won't be affected by future updates.
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linktohack said:
Without root, how can you mount system as rw?
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Code:
adb root
adb remount
Thanks JimCo!! This is what I'm really hoping to hear! I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I really do like the whole idea that is the MoDaCo ROM.
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I fell into the 6.2.1 trap before I got Google Android Market installed. As a result of a partial market installation, I get periodic errors about the android market that pop up and need to be forced closed. I plan to do a factory reset and return the device to the store then buy a new one with the original OS. I need to know what to do so I can get it working with Android Market OTA.
Since the tablet has only 6+ GB to play with, I don't want to load it with too many hacking type tools or other OS. I am interested in seeing how Titanium Backup works but I don't know if I want to keep the KF permananently rooted. My main goal is to have Android Market available and working wirelessly. I am also trying do decide whether to block the the OTA update from Amazon permanently or just until I get my basic Google apps installed. So my plan is:
Get a new Kindle Fire with old OS
Leave WiFi off
Root with Super One Click
Install Google Android Market
Disable rerouting to Amazon Market
Am I right assuming that once installed, Google Android Market will continue to function once Amazon updates me to the latest version?
I also want to make sure that I have Google Mail and Google Maps and I don't know if 6.2.1 unrooted prevents installing those. I like the ability of the 6.2.1 to get rid of junk on the carousel and the scrolling speed seems a little better now. Of course videos are playable with unrooted KF.
Am I missing any steps or are there other recommendations?
You should be able to install Google maps and Gmail onto a regular 6.2.1 KF without any problems.
I don't think there's a known method to block the update while keeping full online functionality.
The best thing at the moment is to install a premodded 6.2.1 update with root access so you can install the Market Place etc.
In anycase if you return the unit for a new one there could (and probably will) be another update in a few weeks. So far there's been an update every couple of weeks since it came out. Each time you lose root and are back to square one.
I'm waiting for someone more clever than me to find a workaround to get root access back on a 6.2.1...
PS - 6GB is a lot of room for installing apps! I wouldn't worry about running out of room unless you're filling up your KF with downloaded media.
oh and PPS - Amazon updates can easily stop the market place from working. The 6.2.1 update has stopped mine from working (because I had it installed in /system/app which is one of the folders replaced in the last update.)
Got new 6.0 KF - Bootstrapping Catch 22
So I returned the 6.2.1 version and got a new one with 6.0 still installed. Now I find that I have no way of loading any apps with the stock unit. The directories that show up on the device through the USB connection are very limited. I copied the root explorer app to the documents directory but naturally it does not show up.
Without having a file explorer app, I don't know how to proceed. If I turn on and register the Kindle, I am liable to get updated immediately. If I can just get to the Amazon store and get a file explorer app and then quickly turn off wireless I may luck out. Are there any other ways to get an app installed without having an app like root explorer or similar without having to first go to Amazon market?
6.2.1? I'm still on 6.2. What's the deal? Why did i not get the update?
Update - I was able to quickly register and bring in the root explorer app. I then turned off WiFi and found I was still at 6.0. Now to try to root it...
I bought one of these for my mom hoping it wouldn't be so well locked down. Has anyone managed to change their launcher from the default Amazon(Ad-laden) launcher? Sideloaded Nova but no dice there.
While Nova runs fine you can't replace the amazon launcher. I believe it was possible on pre 5.1.1 fire OS. Until we get root we'll just have make do.
If you're interested in changing the default firelauncher without rooting your device, please take a quick peak at my thread discussing the possibilties.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8...zon-fire-hd-8-10-remove-firelauncher-t3286646
If you are currently rooted, which as of today is not possible on HD 8 & HD 10, you simply delete the com.amazon.firelauncher.apk in /system/priv-apps/com.amazon.firelauncher/, you will need to boot into fastboot and remount the system as rw if I am correct.
I hope this helps . Again, please check my thread for non-root information, it is currently unfinished.
Here is an updated tutorial on how to change the default launcher without rooting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288192
Edit: Found a second method that is even better!
nyln said:
Here is an updated tutorial on how to change the default launcher without rooting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-remove-default-launcher-amazon-fire-t3288192
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while you're method may work, it's far from optimal.
it's not possible to just rename another launcher and replace the FireOs launcher? i suppose that would be too easy.
if it were my tablet, i'd be more inclined to play around with it. unfortunately, my mom is content enough with it how it is, though i can see it being a beast and would **** around more if it were mine.
hopefully root comes soon. unfortunately, i can't help work towards it.
when all of that is said and done, i'll build a rom and kernel for it, np.
technope said:
while you're method may work, it's far from optimal.
it's not possible to just rename another launcher and replace the FireOs launcher? i suppose that would be too easy.
if it were my tablet, i'd be more inclined to play around with it. unfortunately, my mom is content enough with it how it is, though i can see it being a beast and would **** around more if it were mine.
hopefully root comes soon. unfortunately, i can't help work towards it.
when all of that is said and done, i'll build a rom and kernel for it, np.
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I found a new method that actually works very very well, just run this in adb shell:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
am monitor | while read -r line; do
if [[ $line == *"firelauncher"* ]]
then
[B]am start com.newlauncher.launcher[/B]
fi
done
nyln said:
I found a new method that actually works very very well, just run this in adb shell:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
am monitor | while read -r line; do
if [[ $line == *"firelauncher"* ]]
then
[B]am start com.newlauncher.launcher[/B]
fi
done
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Little bash script like that. I'll give it a try when I have time. Sleek enough, and if effective it's great.
technope said:
Little bash script like that. I'll give it a try when I have time. Sleek enough, and if effective it's great.
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The only downside to the script is when you press the home button, there is a delay of 500ms or so, you see the firelauncher for that time.
It is not nohup or anything so it will stop working when you close adb shell (easy to do yourself, but I am preoccupied at the moment).
Why not root?
So I was actually able to ROOT my kindle fire hd 8 with the kingroot method.
After installing the apk.
Loaded it up let it try to find a root solution and it will not but you can try rooting with the other method and it WORKED for me. Never been so happy!
So after that I loaded adb shell in command prompt and typed "su" to see if I had root and it WORKED again, so I am even more happier!
Now after typing in "su" into command prompt I then typed in,
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
and it was successful..
NOTE: you must have another launcher installed before you do this! I had GOLauncher.
The End <3
P.S. I had installed the necessary files from rootjunky's "Amazon Fire Tablet Tool" or also known as installing google play store method..
Any questions hit me up, I have rebooted and still have root and things intact. Haven't had any problems as of yet. WOOT for ROOT
kanderson88 said:
So I was actually able to ROOT my kindle fire hd 8 with the kingroot method.
After installing the apk.
Loaded it up let it try to find a root solution and it will not but you can try rooting with the other method and it WORKED for me. Never been so happy!
So after that I loaded adb shell in command prompt and typed "su" to see if I had root and it WORKED again, so I am even more happier!
Now after typing in "su" into command prompt I then typed in,
Code:
pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher
and it was successful..
NOTE: you must have another launcher installed before you do this! I had GOLauncher.
The End <3
P.S. I had installed the necessary files from rootjunky's "Amazon Fire Tablet Tool" or also known as installing google play store method..
Any questions hit me up, I have rebooted and still have root and things intact. Haven't had any problems as of yet. WOOT for ROOT
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After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
So after doing some research I believe it won't be possible on the fire cause the system files are missing. From what I've seen I feel like the new 5 the gen tablets are all the same, can't confirm it yet but if so you should be able to follow the instruction given on the kindle 7 5th gen able about booting up into twrp or cm and installing a new Rom. I'm not sure if I want to do this though. Adw launcher feels empty without widgets though
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kanderson88 said:
So after doing some research I believe it won't be possible on the fire cause the system files are missing. From what I've seen I feel like the new 5 the gen tablets are all the same, can't confirm it yet but if so you should be able to follow the instruction given on the kindle 7 5th gen able about booting up into twrp or cm and installing a new Rom. I'm not sure if I want to do this though. Adw launcher feels empty without widgets though
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But do not follow my advice unless you know what your doing. Always back up everything.
kanderson88 said:
After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
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I can confirm that with the latest KingRoot apk on my HD8 (5th Generation) the rooting worked. As a launcher I had before Nova and Google Now via Play Store installed. I prefer the Google Now Launcher. The Home button, the Wallpaper and the Widgets are working. Thanks for the hot rooting tip.
schr01 said:
I can confirm that with the latest KingRoot apk on my HD8 (5th Generation) the rooting worked. As a launcher I had before Nova and Google Now via Play Store installed. I prefer the Google Now Launcher. The Home button, the Wallpaper and the Widgets are working. Thanks for the hot rooting tip.
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Does your google play store actually work? I can get it to load but once the front page is loaded, I can't search or get anything else to load on google play. It's just a continuous load. Could you let me know what framework you have. Also I cant get widgets to work on mine. Have Adw and cant get google now to work. If you can I think you should make a posts on the HD 8 and 10 thread letting us know what you did to get where you are now. Anyways I'm going to message you in a lil bit.
So I got google launcher installed and moved it to system app and now widgets work. Only problem I'm facing now is getting google play to stay working. Sometimes log me out or just stops loading traffic to the app. Any ideas? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it but still no.
kanderson88 said:
So I got google launcher installed and moved it to system app and now widgets work. Only problem I'm facing now is getting google play to stay working. Sometimes log me out or just stops loading traffic to the app. Any ideas? I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it but still no.
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I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
schr01 said:
I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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Thanks. I'm gonna have to try this once I get off work. Thank you again
kanderson88 said:
After messing around the go launcher ex is a little buggy. I might try another, currently trying to figure out how to get widgets to work and once I do ill let you know the system file.
Any ideas what I should add to the fire os? Current goal is widgets
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Please try nova.
schr01 said:
I had in the past the same problems. After I had uninstalled the complet apk's and reinstalled the following apk's:
Google Account Manager_4.0.3-239410.apk,
Google Play services_4.0.34 (924341-38).apk,
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691.apk ,
and
Google Play Store 4.4.21.apk,
I had no trouble. The Google Play Store worked now fine on my HD8 with firmware 5.1.1.
Remark: You can download the apk' from this link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3yLoupCwoyrSzJEMHc3UTkzam8/edit?pref=2&pli=1
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Thanks for supplying the APKs. This should help me as right now infos are jumbled all across this forum and need to be cleaned up a bit.
I'd love to do a nice/clean .bin people can flash after the dust has settled. Hopefully without kingroot. Wish I knew the kingroot devs.
Also, everyone needs to slow down. We have root in a way, but we need to make sure everyone is on the same page. Don't let this forum become a mess.
Right now, it is a huge mess.. The original root thread is smart to post on and maybe the tips and tricks thread. Stop spreading things out too much. We need it all in one place, really
technope said:
Also, everyone needs to slow down. We have root in a way, but we need to make sure everyone is on the same page. Don't let this forum become a mess.
Right now, it is a huge mess.. The original root thread is smart to post on and maybe the tips and tricks thread. Stop spreading things out too much. We need it all in one place, really
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Yeah sorry I'm trying my best to clean up my thread a little and easy to read as much as possible. Also I figured out how to fix google play if it isn't working. Look at tips,Tricks, and the Root thread if anyone is wondering.
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
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I'm sorry but because of the root Amazon's factory APKs think your running a non kindle firmware, because these APKs have the ability to receive more offers, download more content, etc. You may need to uninstall them and then install the default ones from the play store.
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¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play
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What do you mean by "have rooted with Google Play"??? It seems like you don't understand what term "rooting" means.
Unfortunately (or fortunately ), Fire HD 8 2016 (6-th gen) can NOT be rooted; all "guides" available on internet are the scams and bloatware/rootkits installers, nothing more.
Where is no way to root Fire HD 8 2016 (same as 2017) but literally nothing wrong with the FireOS. Anyone can install Google's services and Play store app, and enjoy "freedom" of the access to the Android apps world!
¿GotJazz? said:
Hi - I have a rooted HD8-6G with Google Play that has been working flawlessly for a long time now. However, I recently tried to update the Kindle app and it always fails.
I then tried to open the Amazon Store app, and it immediately terminates upon opening. I figure that the two may be related.
Is this a known problem?
I suppose I can root my HD8 and start from scratch again, but if Amazon apps aren't going to work anymore, I don't want to waste my time.
Thanks,
¿GJ?
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I don't think you are really rooted, i ran into the same issue after installing the google play store. Simply uninstall the updates installed by google for store and kindle and they will work again.
sensboston said:
What do you mean by "have rooted with Google Play"??? It seems like you don't understand what term "rooting" means.
Unfortunately (or fortunately ), Fire HD 8 2016 (6-th gen) can NOT be rooted; all "guides" available on internet are the scams and bloatware/rootkits installers, nothing more.
Where is no way to root Fire HD 8 2016 (same as 2017) but literally nothing wrong with the FireOS. Anyone can install Google's services and Play store app, and enjoy "freedom" of the access to the Android apps world!
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unfrozencaveman said:
I don't think you are really rooted, i ran into the same issue after installing the google play store. Simply uninstall the updates installed by google for store and kindle and they will work again.
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Well, let's see ...
I have SuperSU v2.82 by Chainfire installed and operational
I can su in my Terminal Emulator to run various superuser commands.
I am running AdAway to block (almost) all ads.
I have Link2SD operational to convert some of my apps to System apps (like, Wakelock Detector Pro)
I have BusyBox Pro installed and operational
You can let me know if I am rooted or not.
I'm getting a Fire HD10 delivered tomorrow.
I've read through a lot of threads on here but so many seem to be dealing with the hd8 & non root solutions & some seem to contradict each other or have been made outdated due to new solutions etc & my heads spinning a bit!
I want to root it, install Google services & play store, disable stock launcher & use nova launcher.
Is there are specific order I need to do, or should do, all this in?
What is the preferred method for installing Google play store?
Also, how do I block OTA updates? I've seen a couple of threads mentioning it but haven't stumbled on a specific way that appears to work?
Thanks in advance for your help!
FoxForceFive said:
I'm getting a Fire HD10 delivered tomorrow.
I've read through a lot of threads on here but so many seem to be dealing with the hd8 & non root solutions & some seem to contradict each other or have been made outdated due to new solutions etc & my heads spinning a bit!
I want to root it, install Google services & play store, disable stock launcher & use nova launcher.
Is there are specific order I need to do, or should do, all this in?
What is the preferred method for installing Google play store?
Also, how do I block OTA updates? I've seen a couple of threads mentioning it but haven't stumbled on a specific way that appears to work?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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I have done all the above and here is my person slant:
Google services do not require root so can be done at anytime just make sure you get the right files and the right versions
Using nova launcher as your default launcher can be done with or without root but with root is much easier (you just freeze firelauncher)
Stopping further ota updates for me is done in two ways:
1) block at the router level (this obviously can be done independently of the device)
2) with root again freeze BOTH ota apps. One is for system updates and one is for app updates I freeze both just to be safe and have never been notified of the update to 5620... Still on 5610
As far as rooting itself I would use the offline method listed in forums here. Personally after rooting I took an additional step and loaded one of the predone images also found in forums that had root and xposed all built in. This additional process required the use of the flashfire app that is a whole other set of procedures but overall is well worth it. Flashfire will give you the ability to update to newer software versions without updating the bootloader. Thus you will always be up to date but not lose the ability to downgrade if needed. This ASSUMES you are initially on 5601 or 5610. If your already on 5620 your bootloader is already locked from downgrades.
I'm angry/confused - has anyone else had this happen to their device?
Last night, I sat down and rooted one of my 2017 HD8 tablets, following the damn-amazing Experimental Software Root method as recently uncovered and shared with us by @diplomatic. I then installed SuperSU (from the damn Play store!) to take the root from temporary to permanent.
I spent the last 24 hours FINALLY being able to use my Fire tablet as a semi-solid/functional personal computing device, finally able to really setup the device to perform as I need it to, and I've been very happy with how everything turned out.
Well, I just came back to my desk to find a message from "Play Protect," (a feature/service I ALWAYS turn off in Play Store settings, on all of my devices):
App Removed by Play Protect: SuperSU
This app can allow unauthorized access to your data or device.
(see images attached).
I checked and no longer have root status. Also, now I can't install any .apk files whatsoever. WTF??!
I downloaded SuperSU... FROM THE PLAY STORE...! The app is listed and available for installation from/by the Play Store (see attached photo).
So, I guess now I will just re-root and hope in the future Google chills the F out/gets their creepy little hands out of my device/data. Maybe I should freeze the Play Store/Play Services? I just wanted to see if anyone else had ever had this happen to them/if there is a recommended solution. SO annoying!!! ??‼?‼??
(pardon my grumpiness/I feel a little bit better now, post vent ?)
Ok - I'll stop whining now... ?
I was able to recover root by simply reinstalling "SuperSU" from the Play Store. Hopefully it was just a fluke and everything will stay where it should be.
richaardvark said:
Ok - I'll stop whining now... [emoji51]
I was able to recover root by simply reinstalling "SuperSU" from the Play Store. Hopefully it was just a fluke and everything will stay where it should be.
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I had exact same thing happen but once reinstalled from play store it has been fine.
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richaardvark said:
I'm angry/confused - has anyone else had this happen to their device?
Last night, I sat down and rooted one of my 2017 HD8 tablets, following the damn-amazing Experimental Software Root method as recently uncovered and shared with us by @diplomatic. I then installed SuperSU (from the damn Play store!) to take the root from temporary to permanent.
I spent the last 24 hours FINALLY being able to use my Fire tablet as a semi-solid/functional personal computing device, finally able to really setup the device to perform as I need it to, and I've been very happy with how everything turned out.
Well, I just came back to my desk to find a message from "Play Protect," (a feature/service I ALWAYS turn off in Play Store settings, on all of my devices):
App Removed by Play Protect: SuperSU
This app can allow unauthorized access to your data or device.
(see images attached).
I checked and no longer have root status. Also, now I can't install any .apk files whatsoever. WTF??!
I downloaded SuperSU... FROM THE PLAY STORE...! The app is listed and available for installation from/by the Play Store (see attached photo).
So, I guess now I will just re-root and hope in the future Google chills the F out/gets their creepy little hands out of my device/data. Maybe I should freeze the Play Store/Play Services? I just wanted to see if anyone else had ever had this happen to them/if there is a recommended solution. SO annoying!!!
(pardon my grumpiness/I feel a little bit better now, post vent ?)
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I had a similar experience today when updating some apps I got from the Google Play Store. During the updates, it deleted my SuperSU with no warning or asking permission. Luckily, it didn't affect my root as far as I can tell. I too got SuperSU from the Play Store. It is DEFINITELY annoying !
Two things when installing play store. Always good to 1) immediately turn off auto updates the second you sign in. 2) turn off play protect.
As soon as play services updates, all apps will start to update if they are allowed. So make sure to look at 'my apps', and make sure none are stuck in que. If so, tap 'stop all'.
I am having the exact same issue. Nothing seems to be working no matter what I disable. it keeps removing supersu
Has anyone tried anything that works?
neodenjin said:
I am having the exact same issue. Nothing seems to be working no matter what I disable. it keeps removing supersu
Has anyone tried anything that works?
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Try SuperSU v2.79. Grab it from this post here. Playstore has problems with V2.82
unixtan said:
Try SuperSU v2.79. Grab it from this post here. Playstore has problems with V2.82
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Just don't update from the play store unless you downloaded it there and if you do update, do so manually by downloading standalone apk and installing it through documents or a root explorer. I'm trying to work on a fix for this version in some form. We can't flash it unless you use the modified version on the stock rom thread because we aren't quite 64 bit yet. Flashing the standard zip will bootloop. So I've been experimenting with a totally manual install, including rooting the boot.img so when the apk is installed it doesn't perform the auto install embedded into it. So far, though I don't really know yet, it appears to be a success. One of the issues, I think, was the installation of the 64 bit library file. Either it install it, but in the regular lib folder, or doesn't install it at all or does install but doesn't set proper permissions (guesswork). So I added the necessary files by unpacking and repacking the boot.img. This is not a final version.I'm, but If anyone is interested in trying it out I can upload the boot.img.