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I have the Windows 8 Preview installed on a Dell XT2. Everything about the touch screen works except I can not actually select or execute anything with my finger. I can scroll, pan and pinch to zoom and I can select and execute with my pen. Additionally, when I touch a tile it reacts as if it is about to execute, it just doesn't.
Things I have tried:
-Install latest N-Trig package (dpinst.exe from the installer package) using win 7 and win vista compatibility modes.
-Removed all drivers and performed screen firmware rollback using the tool from N-trig. This caused the screen to become completely inoperative.
I understand this is a Developer preview but I am intrigued to get it working.
My partial solution-
I downloaded the XP drivers from the n-trig support site. I extracted the files from the install and reran the DPINST.exe but that didn't work. I then uninstalled the existing drivers from Windows 8 and then reinstalled the exe right from N-Trig. I ran it in XP compatibility mode and it forced a reboot and then reran the install upon boot up. Interesting that I now have multi-touch in Windows 8 but I no longer have multi-touch in Windows 7 (I am dual booting). I am okay with that since I only use the pen in Windows 8 so I just shut touch off in the pen and touch settings. The pen works great in Windows 7 and both the pen and touch work great in Windows 8.
Thanks for the input on this issue.
brunowg said:
Hello-
I have the Windows 8 Preview installed on a Dell XT2. Everything about the touch screen works except I can not actually select or execute anything with my finger. I can scroll, pan and pinch to zoom and I can select and execute with my pen. Additionally, when I touch a tile it reacts as if it is about to execute, it just doesn't.
Things I have tried:
-Install latest N-Trig package (dpinst.exe from the installer package) using win 7 and win vista compatibility modes.
-Removed all drivers and performed screen firmware rollback using the tool from N-trig. This caused the screen to become completely inoperative.
I understand this is a Developer preview but I am intrigued to get it working.
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double tap to select text
tap on what you select to copy and edit anything...
some tiles don't work but things like ie, social and metro do work
as does weather, 5 and a few games
I have a dell xt2 and save from apps, everything works
Also chrome sucks for finger input, stick with IE
I'm in the same boat with this issue. Will let you know if I fix it though...
Touchsmart TX2Z
Hi all
Same result on HP Touchsmart TX2Z. Must be N-Trig drivers in Win 8.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Interestingly, the extract/DPINST method worked for me (on XT2). This morning it was working perfectly with multitouch and pen (although pen was overly sensitive).
Sadly, this evening I booted back into Win7 for the first time since installing Win8 and now touch in Win8 seems to be completely broken (even after a cold boot). It still works fine in Win7, so doesn't seem to be a hardware issue. Ah well, was nice while it lasted!
UPDATE: I disabled the "Duosense Secondary Interface" driver and reset the primary MultiTouch driver and hey presto, back in business. The multitouch is almost as smooth as a dedicated tablet (do have the odd touch recognition issue at the corners of the screen though) and I'm loving the interface actually - there's even a "Share" function like Android's when you swipe in from the right of the screen!
As long as Metro is made optional for all the traditionalists and poor saps with no touchscreen, Win8 is going to be the most popular MS product ever I reckon.
Official Driver now available
Hi all
Go here:
http://www.ntrig.com/Content.aspx?Page=Downloads_Drivers
Cheers
andrew-in-woking
Hi,
First of all, I didn't try windows8 until now, I just downloaded the ISO but I still have to work for 7 hours so there's a lot of time left till installation.
Most of you might have already tried it, so I thought you could give me a few hints about things the internet doesn't seem to care to much.
1. Keyboard usability
I am an hardcore-keyboard-guy. I prefer using ALT+KEY and things like that for lots of shortcuts to work faster... It depends on what program I am, I touch the mouse once an hour.
Since the new UI seems to be very touchscreen related, did microsoft miss some keyboard-only-workflow stuff inside windows8 or is it still like in 7?
2. Drivers
As far as stated on various different german websites, there should be a good driver compatibility between windows 7 and windows 8, can you agree with that? I have a few devices that must work on every OS I am currently sitting on, maybe some of you have the same and can tell me:
- AMD Radeon HD 7770 (already found catalyst for win8, should be no problem)
- Refine Cutter (never worked under win7, using it inside an XP VM, would be awesome if re-usable in win8, also I am not beliving in it.)
- HP LaserJet 5 P (Printer, old as dinosaur... still works under 7... I hope support won't be dropped in windows8)
- Xerox WorkCentre M128 Pro (Another old printer, still working under windows7 with some issues...)
- LightScribe device (I belive, it will work.)
That's it, maybe I am lucky and there is some random people here using the same hardware...
I have an HP Deskjet 1050 and there are no drivers for it in Windows 8. I only got it a few months ago so it's a bit frustrating, but I imagine once it's officially released HP will get on top of it... or at least I hope so. I can't really comment on the others, but my 6970 is running along happily on the latest catalyst drivers. I can only imagine a newer card would be as well supported.
firstly drivers, most drivers will work ok, Win 7 drivers will in many cases work, the only thing I have found to be a pain just now is Audio drivers. I cant get my sound card to work at all despite the several different avenues ive tried.
If you have issues with win 7 drivers its usually because Win 8 version number doesn't appear in the INF files, in the past ive just added a new entry in to the INF file for Windows 8, then point that new entry to the windows 7 driver files. Its fairly straight forward stuff.....except for the bloody audio driver that is!!! GRR!
as for your first question
Keys are key in win 8 ( get it?!)
no seriously, everyone keeps banging on about Win 8 being touch this and that, but actually its fine without it, the whole concept of using a mouse is so cumbersome as you probably already know, If anything Win 8 has added to the keyboard abilities, using them makes it even better.
Knowing your keyboard shortcuts makes using win8 much easier to use. Mouse gestures like hovering over the side of the screen is more of a hassle compared to keyboard shortcuts.
I installed all the drivers I have on windows 7 to windows 8 and experienced no problems.
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I am using ati mobility radeon 5650 on a vaio VPCEB46FG and running windows 7 home premium.
When i checked with the Official Windows 8 upgrade tool from microsoft it said that ccc have to be reinstalled, but it showed that device is compatible. The problem is i cannot use the drivers provided by the AMD bcoz of switchable graphics, have to rely on sony for that driver for windows8 compatibility, and they are not releasing the drivers.
So will the drivers for windows 7 and catalyst control center work on windows 8.
gowthamachandran said:
I am using ati mobility radeon 5650 on a vaio VPCEB46FG and running windows 7 home premium.
When i checked with the Official Windows 8 upgrade tool from microsoft it said that ccc have to be reinstalled, but it showed that device is compatible. The problem is i cannot use the drivers provided by the AMD bcoz of switchable graphics, have to rely on sony for that driver for windows8 compatibility, and they are not releasing the drivers.
So will the drivers for windows 7 and catalyst control center work on windows 8.
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I had problems with that on the CP and RP, id might be possible to force the AMD drivers to accept your graphics card as one of their own.
I don't have time just not to go through it all but basically if you look at the amd drivers, you will see an INF file with a list of supported devices and their device IDs, essentially you will replace the device ID of a similar card with your device ID, uninstall the drivers you have, and when you install the AMD ones it should think your device is now supported....
In Theory :laugh:
dazza9075 said:
I had problems with that on the CP and RP, id might be possible to force the AMD drivers to accept your graphics card as one of their own.
I don't have time just not to go through it all but basically if you look at the amd drivers, you will see an INF file with a list of supported devices and their device IDs, essentially you will replace the device ID of a similar card with your device ID, uninstall the drivers you have, and when you install the AMD ones it should think your device is now supported....
In Theory :laugh:
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I would love to hear more about this method. My laptop too has the AMD switchable graphics & for the moment am stuck on the Intel HD graphics as the AMD drivers are not installing.
sidthegreatest said:
I would love to hear more about this method. My laptop too has the AMD switchable graphics & for the moment am stuck on the Intel HD graphics as the AMD drivers are not installing.
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ok, we know it is a AMD/ATI chipset, do you know what its based on?
Download the latest AMD drivers for win 8
When you run it, it will copy all the guff it needs to a folder, for example
C:\AMD\AMD_Catalyst_12.9_Beta\Packages\Drivers\Display
you should have two folders
W8_INF
W86A_INF
one is 32bit one is 64bit
lets take the 32bit one, the same applies to 64 anyway
you will see 3 INF files, these are for different versions of windows, id change all three but you should be able to get away with changing
CE146933.INF which is Win 8 version
this file is EPIC in size, the first bit you are looking for looks like this
(This is an example, until I know which card you have I cant be sure which to use)
"%AMD68B8.1%" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8&SUBSYS_30001002
Note the bold black on the left and the bold red on the right, the red one is a unique ID code for a piece of hardware, the bold black code is a number that is tied to that hardware ID and assigns it a Name, the Green is the important bit and tells it what it install. In short, if that hardware ID was detected it would load the driver settings for the device "AMD68B8.1" using settings ati2mtag_Evergreen
if you look at the very bottom of the INF you can see a list of what those codes mean, in this example it translates to
AMD68B8.1 = "AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series"
What is happening at the moment is that the driver is loading, and not detecting the hardware ID, because its not listed it fails to install
what we want to do is to fool the driver in to thinking that your hardware ID IS in the driver.
in theory its simple, in practice there can be a number of things that stop it working, like getting CCC working may be an issue but there you have it, that's the basics of what you can try, it may not work though so don't hold your breath
I had to jump through a crazy number of hoops to get AMD's drivers working on my notebook's 5650 with switchable graphics - and it's unfortunately all because AMD insist on running pre-installation checks. The drivers work, but they don't let you use them.
It eventually worked when updated my notebook from 7 to the RP, and chose to keep drivers installed during the process. I then reinstalled CCC, as the update wiped it out. My driver version is 8.692.1.0, and is dated 22/01/2010.
Switchable graphics works, but I can't right click on the desktop to open the program. I need to run CCC, and then navigate to switchable graphics.
I highly recommend this approach of using switchable graphics - if it works for you. AMD drivers for this are an unmitigated disaster, and any attempts to get a better situation may leave you worse off. Expect lots and lots of 'Install was successful' messages - even though nothing was actually done at all.
If your Windows 7 GPU drivers are working in Windows 8, you'll see the following in Device Manager:
-When GPU is disabled, "Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD" appears in Device Manager.
-When using the GPU, "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650" and the above Intel graphics appear under Device Manager.
Remember that your Intel drivers must be working too - they're part of the switchable graphics. If you see 'engineering sample' or anything next to the driver name, then something is probably wrong.
Anyway, this is just confirming that W7 drivers do work perfectly, if you bypass the OS version check.
If you manage to get W8 drivers to have switchable graphics, that's excellent.
I'll be happily updating my notebook to the full W8 release in about 2 weeks. I am expecting great pain.
The CCC I used was the CCC pro off of their website. I ran all the apps in w7 compatibility mode. Took about 1-2 days. I'm running a never released ati 4600 series so I designed my drivers.... it was very fun
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same probleme here with my sony vaio e series vpcea36ff
cant find the driver of my graphique card 5650 hd
sahhar1993 said:
same probleme here with my sony vaio e series vpcea36ff
cant find the driver of my graphique card 5650 hd
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I also couldnt update my drivers when switched from Win 7 ultimate to Win 8 pro.
SOLUTION :- go to device manager and right click the desired device to click " update drivers" and it will automatically search interne tfor the drivers and everything will work fine !!
I tried this method after installing all the available updates from the microsoft through windows update service !!
Running DELL Vostro 1550
aayush_neov said:
I also couldnt update my drivers when switched from Win 7 ultimate to Win 8 pro.
SOLUTION :- go to device manager and right click the desired device to click " update drivers" and it will automatically search interne tfor the drivers and everything will work fine !!
I tried this method after installing all the available updates from the microsoft through windows update service !!
Running DELL Vostro 1550
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are you using ATI MOBILITY RADEON graphics 5650 card?
I think your solution will work, bcoz windows is saying that graphics card is compatible with windows 8, but only thing it says is ccc has to be reinstalled..
I ve not bought windows 8 for now. So those who use the vaio VPCE series please try windows update or install the drivers from sony and report back..
So my roommate in college has a Sandy Bridge macbook pro 13." He (like me) is an engineering major and wants to run Windows on his computer for solidworks and other software. I am probably going to set up boot camp for him over the weekend because he doesn't know much about computers.
Basically I want this to be short and a one time deal. Does anyone here have experience with windows 8 on a mbp? Are the drivers released and/or functional? Or would I be better off putting on windows 7 right now. He is interested in windows 8 but if it means he loses major functionality then I think he would be better off with 7. We can get both for free right now through DreamSpark.
I am running windows 8 on my thinkpad, so I don't need the pros and cons of the OS itself, just the experience on a macbook pro.
I just recently used bootcamp to load Windows 8 Pro on a Macbook Pro 8,1 (early 2011).
Make sure you have bootcamp 5.0 installed. If you are up-to-date with Mountain Lion then 5.0 should be installed.
Open Bootcamp Assistant in OSX; Select the option to download and burn the latest Bootcamp Windows Support Software. It takes a long time to download, so hang in there, and have a blank dvd ready in your optical drive.
You should have a Windows 8 dvd image/iso (either purchased or otherwise acquired) and the bootcamp 5.0 Windows Support Software DVD you just downloaded and burned. Put the MS W8 DVD in the drive, and using bootcamp assistant in OSX select a Windows 7 install, choose your bootcamp partition size, format, and reboot.
When you get into the W8 setup after the reboot make sure you format the bootcamp partition you just made. It needs to be partitioned in a NTFS format.
When you get through the W8 install and are on the desktop, do not reboot. Put the Bootcamp 5 windows support software dvd in and install the drivers etc. Reboot when it's done.
After reboot, find the bootcamp icon in the taskbar, select it and go through the tabs to change trackpad settings and to pick if you boot into Windows or OSX after a reboot. If you right click on the bootcamp icon in the taskbar you can also choose to "reboot into OSX"
Everything is working great so far. I really like Windows 8 and have pretty much abandoned OSX now. I'm looking to get a 256GB ssd for a dedicated W8 install and then move my 320GB stock HDD to the optibay.
You might want to setup a quick VM with virturalbox or whatever else to see if you or your friend like W8, and everything you need to be compatible is compatible.
EDIT: Apple has not officially released Windows 8 boot camp support. However, my install is running without issue with the drivers that are available.
OK thanks. looks like 8 is the way to go. I just have a couple more questions.
First, will the 64-bit version work fine? I don't know how much RAM his computer has but I don't wanna waste another dvd burning 32-bit when I have a 64-bit from my computer.
Second, how should I partition the hdd? I have no clue how much space osx needs compared to windows. The hdd is 250gb and he will probably just install ~10gb or less of software.
Just wanted to let you know multi-touch does not work...other than that it's really stable and if you friend has the 2010 or 2011 macbook pro it has 4gb ram, so it can handle 32bit version, I'm running windows 8 pro via boot camp it's all good.
Edited: there's trackpad++ driver that bring multi-touch functions back....
htc fan89 said:
Just wanted to let you know multi-touch does not work...other than that it's really stable and if you friend has the 2010 or 2011 macbook pro it has 4gb ram, so it can handle 32bit version, I'm running windows 8 pro via boot camp it's all good.
Edited: there's trackpad++ driver that bring multi-touch functions back....
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Are W8 navigation trackpad gestures working or just two finger scroll? Two finger scroll worked for me out of the box, well, after installing the Bootcamp 5.0 Windows Support Software.
DuOS-M is commercial software developed by American Megatrends for Intel x86-based computers using the Microsoft Windows operating system to provide a "dual operating system" environment in which the user can simultaneously deploy the Android operating system in tandem with Microsoft Windows.
DuOS-M supports key hardware peripherals in Windows including cameras, audio, microphone and sensors such as ambient light sensor, accelerometer, gyrometer, compass and orientation sensors. It also supports various screen sizes, resolutions, and screen orientation (portrait and landscape) along with 3D acceleration and HD video playback.
The first version of DuOS-M was released in June 2014. The software is available for download for a free 30-day trial, and is available for purchase for a complete license (currently $9.99 US).
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Homepage: http://amiduos.com/
I'm surprised there's no discussion on this in xda developers, so I thought I'd start one.
Personal experiences :
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
DuOS-M is based on Android 4.2.2 (Jelly Bean). They've stated they have no slated support for KitKat since they don't see it as a significant upgrade, but are looking into Android-L support. It comes pre-installed with the Amazon Marketplace. It can run both native x86 android apps and ARM apps out of the box. After installation it takes you to a page that explains how to easily install the Google Play Store / Services:
Installing Google Play Store:
http://amiduos.com/nextsteps
If you scroll down on the above link it also has instructions how to root your installation, which is dead simple.
I really like how Google Play, ARM Support, and Root support are all baked into the process.
Unfortunately I was unable to run this on my Windows 8.1 Enterprise edition desktop since it's running the Hyper-V role which DuOS-M doesn't support (shows a warning on startup that virtualization isn't enabled and then hangs when you OK the warning). I could disable Hyper-V (via removing the role or adding a boot flag option with Hyper-V disabled) but I develop too often with Windows Phone 8 to do that right now.
I next tested it on my ASUS VivoBook 11.6" (1366x768) Touchscreen Laptop which has a Celeron 1007U Dual Core CPU and 4GB memory running Windows 8.1. It runs surprisingly well, better than Genymotion in most cases. It's not perfect, Word With Friends for instance has weird missing textures. But it has been able to run things I've never gotten to work in Genymotion or Bluestacks, such as video streaming in Qloud Media player. Since this is a touch screen laptop all gestures and touch controls seems to work great, in addition to the keyboard/mouse controls. I like how DuOS-M doesn't install a new virtual network card on the host machine and seems to support Internet access transparently.
They recently just released a 32-bit beta version which I'm eager to try on my Dell Venue 8 Pro 8" Windows tablet. At $9.99 I'll probably purchase a copy before my 30-days are up. I'm curious to hear other people's thoughts on DuOS-M. Hopefully with more users/feedback they can continue improving this great Android virtualization alternative.
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
Compared with Bluestacks, DuOS is a Ferrari. I'm using it on a Lenovo Yoga and i'm very impressed.
My Lenovo has a mobile core i5 processor but this is no problem at all.
All apps and games are running without lag. I did see some glitches but nothing serious.
Overall i'm very pleased with DuOS-M.
It would be nice to see what happens if XDA modders and cookers shine a light on this one!
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
tfouto said:
It's nice...
Really lightweight and fast to install...
Has some limitations like no resizable window, but great overall.
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DuOS will not launch in Full screen when the System RAM is less than 3GB, even though full screen is set in Configuration tool or 0 is set in xml configuration file.
This is known issue and this will be fixed in future release.
Seems like the latest update has fixed the fullscreen issue! Runs quite well on my Asus T100.
whopper2005 said:
I've recently purchased DuOS-M.
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Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
LochNiss said:
Does Titanium Backup work using DuosM?
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Seemed to work fine, go ahead and try it for yourself, the trial version is fully functional for 30 days.
Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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Did you have to buy it or is it to find it for free? thx for the anwser :
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You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
vampirexhunter said:
You can try the full version for 30 days.
After that its $9.99 USD.
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Does DuOS have a Lollipop image yet ?
Just wondering if anyone found a way around the syscheck (in particular, the 1GB ram). I'm running this on my Surface Pro and it blows Bluestacks out of the water. So I was thinking of running it on an HP Stream 7, a cheapo Windows tablet, but it only has 1GB ram. Getting a "Unfortunately you do not have enough memory to install DuOS-m." error.
DuOS vs Bluestack vs Genymotion vs Andyroid, which one better?
Isn't it VirtualBox also?
TalynOne said:
I wanted to find an alternative to Andy and Genymotion which rely on VirtualBox since the VirtualBox's ndis filter drivers make my Windows 8.1 desktop regularly bluescreen. There's also Bluestacks but that always seemed to run poorly on even powerful computers.
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Fun fact: This version uses a custom build of VirtualBox. If you dig around, you can find the VHD files and VM config.
Unfortunately, without some reverse engineering, you can't just mount the disks in a VBox VM and go, there's some local host-only networking going on that I'm assuming helps authenticate to the licensing server or something, because trying to launch it gets it stuck after initializing the network interfaces (probably waiting for UDP packets).
Since the virtual nics are in NAT mode, I'm assuming that's why your PC isn't bluescreening, since NAT networking doesn't actually hook your interfaces but is translated from within the VBox software.
I am curious as to how this will work if I install VirtualBox side-by-side.... (it's currently on a separate vanilla test machine).
DuOS is really great, i just installed it and fell in love with straight away. but Has any one tried windroye, it seems to perform well and also has a mobile companion... I'm using it in high end machine so cant really tell the difference. so anyone who tried can you share your opinion ?
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Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
christiano9911 said:
Is there any to install this on PC without Graphics Card ?
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Do you mean using integrated graphics? If so, yes. Works perfectly with my built in graphics card on my laptop.
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I mean without graphics card!
For those who've run it on a 32-bit device (older laptop or maybe the Dell Venue Pro 8), any chance you guys can provide the msi installation file? I'd like to try this on an HP Stream 7 which only has 1GB ram.
Apparently AMI is/ will be announcing DuOS 5 at MWC, obviously hoping they have bumped it up to lollipop.
Does anyone has available the keyboard shortcuts list, for zooming and multitouch actions? I can't find it anymore on the official website