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Music Player Shuffle?

Does anyone use the built-in music player to listen to random songs in their collection?
If so, how?
I have set Shuffle on. On going into the Music Player, I select 'All Songs', naturally it shows them all in Alphabetical order so by default it starts playing the first one and then I hit the forward arrow. It takes me another song, which is random in that it has nothing to do with the first song and is not the second one in alphabetical order, but it is always the same one. The next song after that is again unrelated to the first two, but is also always the same. Basically the shuffle option is almost always the same. That's not what I call Shuffle.
Anyone any ideas?

I'm having the same problem and I'm amazed no one else have been posting about this or have they? Will keep on looking in the forums but if you read this and know something, please reply to this call for help
Edit: Been looking through the search results for "Shuffle" and no success, there isn't a mention of it in the wiki either.
Edit#2: Edited the wiki to make it reflect the status of the problem.

I have always found this with HTC Audio Manager but it took me a long time to realise. It would get stuck on artists beginning with "B" then sometimes it might venture to "C" occassionally "T" but then always back to "B". Often it would stay stuck on one album and play two or three tracks even though it was set to shuffle.
It is not until you use another music player that you realise that you have not been listening to hundreds of songs in your library.
I give up with anything to do with HTC Audio Manager and I think it is easy to get attracted by the eye candy of it but frankly it does not work well at all. Shuffle is just one of many problems.
The shuffle and sound quality on Core Player is highly recommended.

custardo01 said:
The shuffle and sound quality on Core Player is highly recommended.
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I've succumbed and started to use Core Player, I am allthough looking forward to see this fixed in an official rom or maybe some touch diamond 2 rom..
Is the problem still there in Diamond 2?

tuomi said:
I've succumbed and started to use Core Player, I am allthough looking forward to see this fixed in an official rom or maybe some touch diamond 2 rom..
Is the problem still there in Diamond 2?
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I have been using WM6.5 for quite some time now but did try some ROMS with the new Manila from D2/Topaz a while back and I seem to remember it worked much better with shuffle.

TF3D Music Player problem

hi there
ive synced my hd with wmp and all my songs etc are on there fine in mobile wmp. all the individual songs show up on the songs tab in the tf3d music player as well but my problem is when i go to the artists tab, it shows enough artists to fill the screen but when i finger scroll to go further down, the list just disappears, like theres only the first 10 or so artists and then theres nothing.
has anyone else had this problem?
ive resynced a couple of times, deleted the audiomanager.vol file etc but still the same problem. plus it takes over 2hrs to sync so i dont want to do it that often. have over 2000 tracks.
cheers for any help

just bumping up to get help

i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ

Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .

i have coreplayer and use it for videos but for music (normally also for vids but wmp suxx rele bad [-> codecs]) i always prefered the built-in player.. usually u only listen with shuffle coz i need variety ^.-
i just dont wanna use an extra player coz its an extra app and i wanna avoid that as far as possible.
what i really miss is a hardware button or something like that to chance to the next song.. i used a sony ericsson w850i walkman phone for the last 2 years and i could use the volume buttons (long press) to navigate through the playlist without turning the display on, thats hell useful when its in the pocket, especially when ur riding a bike.
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Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
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well.. since its not possible to even chose the music dir (seems to must be in <root>/music) the player should be designed to handle any amount of data. i only have 300 songs on there atm. usually i would have, like kauka187, 2000+ =)
i really hope there will be a good firmware update very soon...

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Probably the player isn't designed to handle such a big amount of data.
I know this is not a great help, but you should really try CorePlayer. It has a media library, which works quite well .
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Yeah youre prob right about the amount of data.
ive got coreplayer to watch movies and s2p when i want to find a specific song (since theres no search function in built in the tf3d music player WTF!) to play so i guess they will have to do for now until htc hopefully comes up with an update because i really like the look and finger friendliness of their player.

N!ghty said:
i got the same problem... but what doesnt work in my player is the current playlist and songs...
just uploaded a vid 1 minute ago:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZZF-Vm-lrQ
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just watched your vid and yeah i have exactly the same prob but like you said, my issue is in the artist tab.
you never know, some bright spark in this community may be able to come up with a fix

This seems to be a bug, I discovered it too with about 3000 songs on the player (which required a softreset for anything to show up in the TF3D menu)
It seems that when you try to scrol down, it snaps back to above the first artist.
When it happend to me I could get back to the other artists if I just scrolled down again.
There's still quite some bugs in the TF3D Player and I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.

JanSchotsmans said:
I wouldn't mind replacing that tab with Coreplayer or WMP itself.
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is that possible? cos i would quite like that

I also have a problem in a ambum with 2 cds the music appears mixed, cd1 musics with cd2 music and are not for correct order, track 3 appears first then track1 for example. I have the collection correct numbered with correct music id. any idea to correct this and appear first track 1 of the cd1 then track2 and only when cd1 is over then starts cd2. Thanks sorry the english.

any idea please.

im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|

N!ghty said:
im going for a cooked rom... but i wanna hav language changeable to german and i learned that thats not the case on most :\
other than that (if that even fixes the problem) i havnt found a solution :|
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if a cooked rom does fix the prob could you report back here please. thanks

I may have just found a solution to some of the problems with the TF3D music player.
I loaded a bunch of new tracks onto my storage card via the USB cable earlier and edited some of the artist/album details on the tracks I added. The TF3D music player wasn't recognising the new tracks or the changes I'd made to the existing tracks. A soft reset didn't solve the problem. Removing and re-adding TF3D to the Today screen didn't solve the problem. The wrong details were still shown in the player. (As well as this, the Playlists tab wasn't working at all and I couldn't queue up new songs to play.)
Removing and re-inserting the SD card while the list of artists was showing on the HD's screen, however, HAS forced it to re-index the music on the card and now it's all perfect again. Perhaps someone else with a problem could try this?
Sequence:
- copy tracks to the card over the USB lead, or update artist/album details
- unplug USB cable
- go to Artists list in TF3D music library (leave TouchHD turned on)
- remove SD card
- list of artists is erased from screen
- insert SD card
- after a few seconds the list of artists is rebuilt correctly
Report back your results!

did just like you said and the list is built up again, but the list of songs and the now playing list still won't scroll..

yer me 2... just re-inserted the memory card but problem still occurs
the only thing i can think of is an encryption problem in the tags.. i used the musicbrains global database to tag my entire music in order to remove all problems in the tags. but since my tags are ALL tagged the exact same way i got trouble finding the problem ^^

Same problem here!
I had to rebuild my artist-list through updating in WMP. But problems remains to be solved...
I have 860 songs on my card, and it fails to scroll through Albums and All Songs.
Only Artists works.
I believe though, that it is a problem that HTC should solve, and not us. This is not an improvement, tweak or anything else.
This is a real error in the Player!

I tried to describe the problem to the technical support at HTC.
When (if) they respond, I will let you know.

awesome cheers

Update on problem and HTC Tech Support:
HTC has replied to my request, and their recommendation is to clean the card, and then sync it all again through WMP11.
I followed the procedure, but the problem remains (
Only positive thing, however, is that I now have A LOT more album covers!
I'll be back later...

Music player says "no"

Hey felas
To start with, I'm a fresh virgin in WM and just bought the Leo, flashed the ROM with 1.48.405.2 WWE and it's all a dream except ..
I go to the music player tab, play a song and in 5 to 20 seconds the song just stops playing. It doesnt pause it, just halts and when i hit the "play" button twice it plays from the start. Unusable..
I am using an 8GB SD, tried formatting it twice ( through win7 and WM ), tried uploading the songs via Media Player and by just copying them into the folder. Its all the same. Soft reseted the thing a gazzilion times and it still doesnt like me.
I searched trough the forum but didnt stumble upon anyone with a similar issue.
I give up. help?
Thanks in advance

That's frustrating. What's the format of your music files? And what's the bitrate? How do you have organized your music files. In seperate folders or in one large folder?
Just curious.
BTW, does this problem occurs constantly. I mean, if you leave your phone alone for a couple of hours and try to play the same music file then, does the same problem occur again, or is it just after an update of your music library.

appelflap this problem has been noticed by others. You might want to check out this thread which documents several solutions.
Slow Music player

try to erase the Music maps inthe sd card and create a new one,put music inthis first,more less like 200 tracks and start again the player,if this work put more music

Thank you for the assistance guys The problem were the mp3's I guess.. or the dumb HTC developer that coded the Media Player. Anyhow, I reckon i might like this forum after all.
Happy holidays

The solution ?
Hi. I experienced the same problem with my music player. I noticed that EVERYTIME I connect my LEO with a computer, whether or not I add new music files, the music player would just "stuck", find no music files, display the message "No music found" when I turn it to landscape.
Found the answer on another forum. Actually, "our" music player is unable to read some MP3 ID3 TAG... It seems to be only reliable with ID3 version 2.4 UTF-8 type tags. So what you should do is "simply" convert all mp3 files on your storage card to the appropriate ID3 format. It's not very long since you don't have to recompress the audio files! You can use mp3Tag to apply change to all your mp3s at once. More info in this threat => http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=42474
One definitive solution would be to convert ID3 tags of all your music collection! It would take quite some time... unless somebody find the way to fix this with a magic cab?
This just adds to the very long list of issues of this "wonderful" piece of technology. Thanks who?

Anoying Problems with Music Tab

I've got a few problems with the music tab wich I think is very anoying. I hope anyone knows a sollution for this.
First of all, Does anyone know if there's a way to get the alphabetic numbers on the music library? Scrolling all the way down takes me al lot of time since I've got around 1000 songs.
My second problem, is there a fix for the shuffle butten in the music tab. Even when shuffle is on I still get at least 3 songs in alphabetic order every time I start my music tab. Also when I'm choosing a new song I always have to press the shuffle 2 times to let it work properly.
My last problem, I've got this game Flight Commander, wich is a great game. But it has some anoying sounds(.wav files) wich show up in my library. How can I let my music tab ignore these sounds without deleting them?
Ow and I also have this problem of my headphones. Do your devices also work slower if you put in your headphones?
Thanks, Sorry for my English, It's not perfect.

Try Nitrogen? It's superior to MW and music tab in every way.

Volw said:
Try Nitrogen? It's superior to MW and music tab in every way.
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Thanks for the reply and sollution, but I actually do like the music tab very much I think it looks very nice and I use it every day. So I was hoping for a sollution without changing my music player. But I will still keep it in mind. Thanks

I'm facing the same issues as well, as I use the default Music player to play all my song files instead of creating individual playlist. I tend to notice that the shuffle function tends to play a few 'favorite' songs of it's choice. Either that or the shuffle function stops working unless I reactive it back
I think the bug is triggered by having too much songs on your current playlists (mine being 6-7gb)

same here shuffle starts with couple of the same songs every time.
then letter repeat thingy.
I would really like to replace the music tab with someone else.
I wish applications inside tabs can be replaced easily!

So I guess there's still no solution for this?

Workaround
I have the same problem. I'm sick to death of hearing songs that start with 'A' - have forgotten all my songs that start from C onwards unless I drive to China. Only workaround I've found is go to library>all songs (rather than playlist) and pick a song, music player will restart and shuffle the full alphabet. I've also put a bug report into HTC on this maybe more of you could do the same.

Yes everything you listed as an issue has been started in two other threads, quite a few of us are waiting for a solution as I personally like the Sense music type, it's aesthetically pleasing and does what I want it to do.
Regarding the scrollbar the going consensus is that it can't just be made or migrated from another app like the contacts function. Something like that may have to come from HTC.
The shuffle button does this for me too, no matter what song I start the shuffle from it plays the same rotation of songs in the first ten I skip to. Then I notice an actual variety, also I find that after a soft reset it sometimes forgets that the shuffle is on and I have to turn it off and on again to get a shuffle.
There is no way to make the music player only look at certain folders, you can do it with the pictures tab by adding the unwanted folders as .reg entries but the music tab looks at all sounds.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but these fixes will more than likely have to come from HTC, they bill this phone as an entertainment phone (at least TMOUS version) and they include a great looking music player but dont assume that people will actually use it to play their large music lirbraries.
Playing all my sounds and the issue with shuffle are minor inconveniences to me, my biggest wish is a scrollbar.
*Edit, another issue I just remembered, when you are on a song and hit the library button it places you at the beginning, why can't it place you at the currently playing song. If I'm listening to a song starting with T and want to skip to a W I have to scroll from the beginning, utter nonsense
Oh well hopefully HTC gets with the program as I have not found a 3rd party music player that I like as much as the Sense player.

im having the problem where the song "blacks out" for a few seconds a couple times during songs where there is just no sound but the music is still going. also just got an issue where if i turn the screen off while headphones are plugged in it pauses the music. used to work so well...

sense music player says playing a song, but sound is from another track...

as the title says, when I play music it may say one song title is playing but it actually is playing another, also when I try to select another song it will not let me ... it just stays on the current track and it will only change by pressing the arrows... very odd problem... any ideas ?

erebusting said:
as the title says, when I play music it may say one song title is playing but it actually is playing another, also when I try to select another song it will not let me ... it just stays on the current track and it will only change by pressing the arrows... very odd problem... any ideas ?
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Search the HTC LEO forums for "tweaks" on how to go about renaming the MP3 files and allowing them to be "discovered", matched and replayed correctly using the HTC Music Player.

Reignzone said:
Search the HTC LEO forums for "tweaks" on how to go about renaming the MP3 files and allowing them to be "discovered", matched and replayed correctly using the HTC Music Player.
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I have checked out all the tweaks but I think I missed it...I cannot find any "Tweaks" for the mp3s or even any pertaining to the music player....