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Hi Guys, just thought id post my thoughts on the Leo.
Ive been using mine now for over 2 weeks having come from an N95(and several failed attempts at finding something I liked inbetween including various iphones, N97 etc etc) so to the thoughts.,
The screen for me was a bit tricky as many have said before, I have huge hands, but decided to persevere.
Has to be said that after about a 10 day period typing messages etc became much easier, after 2 weeks it was brilliant, but then came the eureka moment, which it has to be said was'nt good for me, but telling all the same.
After flashing the ROM, the typing experience became similar to a fair proportion of others on here, infuriating!
Now thinking logicly about it, I decided it couldn't be the screen as was fine before, only thing changed was the ROM, so was software, tried a screen align, hmmm, worse still, did it again, slightly better, but still no cigar, went and checked settings and set to how id had it before, no vibrate(seems to fubar typing), keyboard click on, screen click on, correct as you type on, complete words in both XT9 and ABC both on and did screen align again, now zoila, its better than before(after another screen align) no more false inputs although xt9 has to learn my vocab again(annoying) but it really is a revelation.
Now the only thing annoying me is the long sms list issue (although partialy sorted by selecting all messages and going in through WM)
Can I just add, absolutely epic site guys and thanks to all those that spend there own time making the WM experience better for all!!
Noooo! you've got it all wrong. You're supposed to try typing for 5 minutes, throw your toys out the pram and go buy an iPhone.. *then* come on to xda developers and post a nice long rant about how poor the entire phone / windows mobile is (bonus points for expletives and spelling mistakes).
Fixing problems in an intelligent, logical manner? whatever next?!
I just got my HTC HD2 from Royal Mail. Everything seems to be working flawlessly. The screen is just gorgeous and the navigation is really smooth and snappy. The videos online really do not do it justice.
I've just got a few of questions. I heard that Opera does not support flash, is this true? and will this change in the future?
I tried using IE to open youtube but it doesn't seem to play anything. It has the flash 9 logo and that's it. How do I play videos via the web browser?
Also, when I open up IE it says that it connects using my data plan and I may get charged. Does it not work over WiFi?
I'm just uploading files onto it right now but yes, this device has had my jaw on the floor since I opened the packaging. By far the best phone I have ever owned.
StrangeReality said:
I just got my HTC HD2 from Royal Mail. Everything seems to be working flawlessly. The screen is just gorgeous and the navigation is really smooth and snappy. The videos online really do not do it justice.
I've just got a few of questions. I heard that Opera does not support flash, is this true? and will this change in the future?
I tried using IE to open youtube but it doesn't seem to play anything. It has the flash 9 logo and that's it. How do I play videos via the web browser?
Also, when I open up IE it says that it connects using my data plan and I may get charged. Does it not work over WiFi?
I'm just uploading files onto it right now but yes, this device has had my jaw on the floor since I opened the packaging. By far the best phone I have ever owned.
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Opera doesn't support flash.
Use the You Tube app already on your handset, it works perfectly.
For playing videos within your browser, download the Skyfire browser for free. I don't like the interface and therefore only use it when I have to but it supports flash and you can play videos and surf for porn on it lol.
gamma500. looks like you still need to find the return key (aka as enter key) as this is the only thing missing in your message. Or did you type it on a PC keyboard, and is the return key (aka as enter key) broken?
sunking101 said:
Opera doesn't support flash.
Use the You Tube app already on your handset, it works perfectly.
For playing videos within your browser, download the Skyfire browser for free. I don't like the interface and therefore only use it when I have to but it supports flash and you can play videos and surf for porn on it lol.
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I don't have the youtube app, where can I find it? I got my phone from T-Mobile UK if that helps. And I thought IE did support flash?
StrangeReality said:
I don't have the youtube app, where can I find it? I got my phone from T-Mobile UK if that helps. And I thought IE did support flash?
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Opera doesn't support flash and IE only has 'flashlite' which isn't suitable for playing video. You will need to download Skyfire but the You Tube app will be in your start menu - press the icon at the top left of the screen or the windows button in the middle at the bottom - then scroll through the icons.
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Opera doesn't support flash and IE only has 'flashlite' which isn't suitable for playing video. You will need to download Skyfire but the You Tube app will be in your start menu - press the icon at the top left of the screen or the windows button in the middle at the bottom - then scroll through the icons.
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I don't have it pre-installed, is there somewhere I can get it? It's wierd that they didn't include it. Is anybody here on T-Mobile UK who has it pre-installed?
Dont have a HD2 ...yet! But from what I have read Youtube is not included on the T-Mobile handset.
Thanks Christonabike, personally don't see the merit in ranting, seldom effective in sorting issues and htc-hd2, in an effort to be cloggy friendly have inserted a few returns just for you!
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I don't have it pre-installed, is there somewhere I can get it? It's wierd that they didn't include it. Is anybody here on T-Mobile UK who has it pre-installed?
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http://rapidshare.com/files/309160325/YouTube_Player_-_WVGA_-_800x480.cab
Fantastic! Disabling the vibrate response was one of the best things I could do! I can actually type for long periods of time with little errors and the XT9 and ABC is working great now, I didn't realise it could learn... so have been typing in all of my Northern Irish phrases that we use over here!
I'm happy once again, I'm really starting to love this phone; was a bit doubtful at the start and was thinking my N95 8gb looked like a good option to go back to but my faith is growing in this device by the day!
Once again to OP, thanks!
It Just gets better with time Rossimac, which only became apparent after having flashed the ROM and thereby losing two weeks of it.
I'm having a problem with the web browser.
Basically it keeps closing when I click on a link. Example, right here on the XDA forum when I click on one of the threads the web browser just shuts down & returns to the home screen. I had it just a day & took it back to the shop & they swapped for a brand new one.
Got home tried the web browser & it did exactly the same. I've not loaded any apps its straight out of the box, set up wifi & fire up the web browser.
Also I changed the UA string to desktop but it doesn't work either. Got no problems with my HTC Desire or the Dell Streak.
Any others having the same problem. Looks like I might have to return it again tomorrow.
I have experienced this too a couple of times. I found deleting cache data and cookies then also disabling plugins in browser settings seemed to fix this. Not a major issue.
luigino1 said:
I have experienced this too a couple of times. I found deleting cache data and cookies then also disabling plugins in browser settings seemed to fix this. Not a major issue.
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Same here.
Strangely enough it only happened here at xda-devs but doing as you say cleared the issue and it's been right as rain ever since.
What does disabling plugins do? Does it stop flash from working? And how about the UA string, why won't it stay in desktop mode?
Thanks
As far as i can tell disabling plugins doesn't appear to do very much. I noticed YouTube videos will stop playing in the web browser (but will play in YouTube app perfectly fine) and that's about all. Flash support in this version of the browser is so minimal that it is barely worth having or switching on.
I have no idea about the UA string.
i had that problem on a nexus turned off my locations by wifi in settings and worked fine.
OK I've returned the phone for full refund at the shop I bought it from. I'm going to give the Galaxy S a final chance though as I will buy another from a different shop. I'm thinking it could be due to fact that the previous shop stock was from a dodgy batch of phones.
I think you'll be disappointed, sounds more like a software issue than a hardware one and I cant believe a batch of phones had a software flash go wrong like that. What id like to know is if this is just a Galaxy S thing or not? As I thought it was the same browser on all eclair phones.
I have a HTC Desire aswell. The web browser on the Desire doesn't have any of the issues I'm seeing with the Galaxy S. The problem I have with the Desire though is the external speaker volume is too low & tinny, but most significant is the pink tint when on the lowest brightness setting (I use the phone a lot in dark conditions). In saying that I noticed that the Galaxy lowest brightness setting is still much brighter than the Desire.
try out Skyfire? other browsers?
J-Hop2o6 said:
try out Skyfire? other browsers?
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If you want to try out a good browser, then try Dolphin HD.
Very quick, slick and does have some nice features.
Beards said:
If you want to try out a good browser, then try Dolphin HD.
Very quick, slick and does have some nice features.
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not for me.. i was suggesting them to try out the other browsers and compare.
Beards said:
If you want to try out a good browser, then try Dolphin HD.
Very quick, slick and does have some nice features.
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Same thing happens to me. Tried to change browser, but it didn't help. Tried Opera mini 5 and Dolphin HD and HD2. Same arse
csolb said:
Same thing happens to me. Tried to change browser, but it didn't help. Tried Opera mini 5 and Dolphin HD and HD2. Same arse
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In what way?
I'm using it over the default browser and love it.
Ok, my browser (both the default one and Dolphin HD) shuts down randomly back to the main screen. Usually it's preceded by a single vibration, followed by three quick vibrations before it happens. This happens regardless of what website I am on.
I didn't have this issue at all on 2.1, and to be honest I really wish I hadn't bothered updating the phone as sites loaded and ran quicker on 2.1. Wondering if you guys have any ideas.
My baseband is I9000XXJPM
Build is FROYO.XWJP6
Oh and, I'm running RyanZA's OneClickLagFix 2.2+
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Ok, my browser (both the default one and Dolphin HD) shuts down randomly back to the main screen. Usually it's preceded by a single vibration, followed by three quick vibrations before it happens. This happens regardless of what website I am on.
I didn't have this issue at all on 2.1, and to be honest I really wish I hadn't bothered updating the phone as sites loaded and ran quicker on 2.1. Wondering if you guys have any ideas.
My baseband is I9000XXJPM
Build is FROYO.XWJP6
Oh and, I'm running RyanZA's OneClickLagFix 2.2+
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The vibration pattern you mention are indicative to a Force Close procedure.
Clearly something is interfering with the Internet App.
What happens after a reboot?
It's the same after a reboot. I rebooted it this morning before coming into work. Later in the morning I was on the internet on my phone and the same thing happened.
edit: I upgraded via the reg-hack to force Kies to give me the update. The JPM firmware is onlly for nordic regions, I'm wondering if maybe the proper European firmware will solve the problem...
Also: FIVE MINUTES BETWEEN POSTS FOR NEW USERS?? JESUS CHRIST, XDA!!
CaptainLeChuck said:
It's the same after a reboot. I rebooted it this morning before coming into work. Later in the morning I was on the internet on my phone and the same thing happened.
edit: I upgraded via the reg-hack to force Kies to give me the update. The JPM firmware is onlly for nordic regions, I'm wondering if maybe the proper European firmware will solve the problem...
Also: FIVE MINUTES BETWEEN POSTS FOR NEW USERS?? JESUS CHRIST, XDA!!
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I would say it looks quite good that you have a problem with the ROM.
I would put the correct ROM on your SGS and if Kies is problematic use Odin.
There is a great information link on how to use Odin to upgrade a ROM at How to use Odin to Upgrade the SGS to Froyo.
I used it and it worked a breeze.
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Dolphin, skyfire (i really hate this over hyped crappy product) uses stock browser engine. So, on froyo they perform as the default browser. Browser on froyo sucks badly. I browse quite often and got a few fc (vibrates.. phone unusable for seconds, that happen when an app FC in official froyo) or simply self close. Plus how much resources eats (cpu + mem).. simply pathetic. Eclair browser performance was way better..
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Browser on froyo sucks badly. I browse quite often and got a few fc (vibrates.. phone unusable for seconds, that happen when an app FC in official froyo) or simply self close. Plus how much resources eats (cpu + mem).. simply pathetic. Eclair browser performance was way better..
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That's just your opinion and you are quite entitled to it especially if you are experiencing the problems you mention.
Mine however performs without a hitch. It's quick, reliable and does exactly that as I ask of it.
Ok,
does anyone else notice that the Atrix touch screen location seems a bit off?
I really notice it during browsing the internet and it seems it needs calibration. I cant say how many times I have had to click back an redo my clicking action. It seems that when you click its not accurate...
Any one else notice?
Can it be recalibrated?
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Yeah I've noticed this too. It's not too bad but it is moderately annoying.
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Yeah I've noticed this too. It's not too bad but it is moderately annoying.
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SAME HERE
Yep, same problem here but only happens in the browser. No problems typing at all but I always click a link and it seems to click a link or two above my intended selection. This problem was also even more prominent when I tried to use the firefox browser which seems to be the only browser that will allow me access to my schools website..sticking through it for now in hopes that a software update will fix it unless other users aren't having this problem, maybe just need to exchange this particular device.
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BBock9 said:
Yep, same problem here but only happens in the browser. No problems typing at all but I always click a link and it seems to click a link or two above my intended selection. This problem was also even more prominent when I tried to use the firefox browser which seems to be the only browser that will allow me access to my schools website..sticking through it for now in hopes that a software update will fix it unless other users aren't having this problem, maybe just need to exchange this particular device.
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After reading your post I agree with you. I mostly notice the problem with the browser. I do notice it slightly when typing but this could be do to me coming from an Iphone 4 with the keyboard being slightly different.
I dont know if you tried the browser Skyfire, but this was the only browser that I could make changes and save them when accessing the Google Voice settings from my phone. The standard browser, firefox, and even opera didnt display the full page so I was unable to actually save my changes.
Skyfire has its annoyances as well but its the best I found so far...
Thanks
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Well Mine was annoying to type in landscape cause the spacebar was about 1mm higher then it looks. Felt like I was typing a "B" to hit the spacebar.
That was annoying but now, now I have the Nexus screen flip-out! Any time I type or touch the screen the thing flips out. It has a area that is seeing a perminate touch or something.. there is a app on the market that allows you to see where the touch points are. I'll have to down load it and then show someone at ATT to get it replaced... I'm irritated cause at this point I've got a lot of work in it and I cna't just make a nandroid and then restore on my next device..
Sorry about the double post, its not letting me edit my last.
BBock9
sticking through it for now in hopes that a software update will fix it unless other users aren't having this problem, maybe just need to exchange this particular device.
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If it is like the Nexus, no software won't fix it, or at least never did. They claimed they were "looking into it" BS for you'll replace it soon enough..
Is anyone else having the touch flip out issue? with multitouch visulizer or multitouch tool see what you get. I ran visulizer on mine and after about 2 min it had a perminate point on the top right corner, eventually it locked up to the point of not being able to use it.
Well hopefully there is a fix for it...I kind of put myself in a tight spot as I installed adeo rom prematurely and as far as I know there is no going back to stock yet. On top of that im pretty sure DG is done done with the atrix so unless someone picks up where he left off and I can getback to stock, ill have to live with the problem. Stupid me...
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So it isn't my imagination, or my fat fingers. ONLY IN THE BROWSER. I'll touch something, and something a good 1/4" below it gets selected.
I'd say calibration also, but that doesn't explain why only in the browser. (I miss my Palm stylus!)
Are any of you facing this same problem?
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/362784#362784
Posted videos of the problem there.
I've had the S2 for a week or two now and I'm finding my main gripe with it is selecting text in the browser.
If you've written a block of text, or several sentences (whatever), I find tapping your sentence to place the cursor at a specific point utterly hit and miss. It's really, really hard to get it where you want it.
I mostly use the stock browser as it's way faster than any other I've tried (Dolphin and Firefox), but this is driving me insane. It's not quite as bad in Dolphin, but it's still pretty bad.
I have to say, the iPhone is way ahead when it comes to placing the cursor where you want it. I'm hanging for a mod that uses the little magnifying glass thing that the iPhone has.
Is anyone else bothered by this and found a solution?
Thanks
Simon
Ah ha!
Tried Opera Mini just now and it worked perfectly! The problem, then, appears to be the browsers.
Whatever, I'm just glad one of them works as it should
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I've had the S2 for a week or two now and I'm finding my main gripe with it is selecting text in the browser.
If you've written a block of text, or several sentences (whatever), I find tapping your sentence to place the cursor at a specific point utterly hit and miss. It's really, really hard to get it where you want it.
I mostly use the stock browser as it's way faster than any other I've tried (Dolphin and Firefox), but this is driving me insane. It's not quite as bad in Dolphin, but it's still pretty bad.
I have to say, the iPhone is way ahead when it comes to placing the cursor where you want it. I'm hanging for a mod that uses the little magnifying glass thing that the iPhone has.
Is anyone else bothered by this and found a solution?
Thanks
Simon
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Yep...i had the same grief..... its a pain in the arse.
Same so used to iphone browser. Ill try opera mini
One of the few things I wish they would nick from the iPhone. HTC have done it with their new versions of Sense, why can't Google do it with Android in general or Samsung with their devices?
Love em or hate em but I really miss the trackball on the N1. Both for this reason and being able to quicly nab closely spaced link without zooming.
You could download the Gingerbread Keyboard App in the market and use the included D-Pad. I can't live without it.
Regards.
I use gingerbread keyboard and I don't think it has a d-pad..!
Pagnell said:
One of the few things I wish they would nick from the iPhone. HTC have done it with their new versions of Sense, why can't Google do it with Android in general or Samsung with their devices?
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Isn't this a generic Android issue as I have encountered it on all the Android phones I have owned as far as I can remember?
Keep in mind the stock browser uses hardware acceleration. I'd guess that anything else is going to be slower.
The stock browser is my preferred browser because it has the best design and features (and the only one that can play 720p YouTube videos smoothly) but has too many glitches to be functional!
First off its the laggiest out of all of them making it almost impossible to type at any fast rate of speed. Second there is a ridiculous glitch that won't allow you to move the cursor by just tapping where you want it to go within the text, you have to actually drag the cursor to where you want it go. But like i said it looks the best, has the best features, formats the text the best, and plays 720p YouTube.
Opera is the fastest. It is the best for text editing and overall speed of browsing. It is extremely annoying though that it won't do things such as auto capitalize or just allow you to push enter to search rather than clicking on the page, and the very layout of the browser seems dated. It also won't play 720p YouTube videos. Opera seems to be the only one that will allow proper handling of HTML forms and text editing, which is very important for posting on the net and making your way through forums.
Dolphin is OK but it has one glitch i can not look past. I can not search from the little drop down menu within forums because it just glitches and closes. Similarly I can't use the login to websites function (such as xda) from the little embedded login on the main page. Its broken.
I guess the most usable is opera. But can some dev not fix the little things that are wrong with the stock browser? I would really prefer to use it instead. Im sure most of you will agree.
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Mods is there anyway to delete every single post except for the op? Maybe some real human beings will post and we can start over.
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Can everyone please stick to the topic,if you have nothing constructive to add please refrain from posting.
seh6183 said:
The stock browser is my preferred browser because it has the best design and features (and the only one that can play 720p YouTube videos smoothly) but has too many glitches to be functional!
First off its the laggiest out of all of them making it almost impossible to type at any fast rate of speed. Second there is a ridiculous glitch that won't allow you to move the cursor by just tapping where you want it to go within the text, you have to actually drag the cursor to where you want it go. But like i said it looks the best, has the best features, formats the text the best, and plays 720p YouTube.
Opera is the fastest. It is the best for text editing and overall speed of browsing. It is extremely annoying though that it won't do things such as auto capitalize or just allow you to push enter to search rather than clicking on the page, and the very layout of the browser seems dated. It also won't play 720p YouTube videos. Opera seems to be the only one that will allow proper handling of HTML forms and text editing, which is very important for posting on the net and making your way through forums.
Dolphin is OK but it has one glitch i can not look past. I can not search from the little drop down menu within forums because it just glitches and closes. Similarly I can't use the login to websites function (such as xda) from the little embedded login on the main page. Its broken.
I guess the most usable is opera. But can some dev not fix the little things that are wrong with the stock browser? I would really prefer to use it instead. Im sure most of you will agree.
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Have you tried SkyFire?
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Can everyone please stick to the topic,if you have nothing constructive to add please refrain from posting.
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Thank you sir.
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Have you tried SkyFire?
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Wasn't even aware that skyfire was available on honeycomb! Thank you, ill try it out first thing in the morning. Do you feel its pretty snappy? Any weird glitches that you've come across yet?
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Tried skyfire and there are glitches in it as well. Oh well, I'll just stick with the stock browser and the opera browser for now. Thanks for the advice though.
Firefox also has a browser. Don't know if it will work for you and what you need. I personally didn't like it. Did you try Dolphin or Dolphin HD?
Firefox
What about Firefox???
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Firefox also has a browser. Don't know if it will work for you and what you need. I personally didn't like it. Did you try Dolphin or Dolphin HD?
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I did try dolphin yes. Too many glitches.
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What about Firefox???
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Haven't tried it in a while but it was real laggy. Will try in a moment.
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I can tolerate the stock browser for the most part. The only one thing I can't really live with is text editing. When I click in the middle of a word to correct it, the cursor doesn't jump when I pressed, it does for a second and then snaps across the screen to where it was previously. Then I have to grab the cursor and drag it to where I want. This gets old.
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Just tried both Firefox and Firefox beta and both we pretty laggy. While I could move the cursor to where I wanted by tapping, the browser had no arrow come up to fine tune the location! I could probably deal with this if the browser wasn't so laggy. And im pretty sure there is no flash support with firefox yet, back to the stock browser
On another note, I was able to tap my cursor whereever I wanted just now editing this text with the stock browser! Seems like a random occurance i guess.
Both Firefoxes are shocking, laggy slow and worse of all no flash support if I wanted that I'd have bought an iPad! The work around I use for text entry is to zoom it, bit of a pain in the butt n not perfect but it does sort out the glitch.
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I did try dolphin yes. Too many glitches.
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Which Dolphin did you try? I use Dolphin for Pad and am quite happy with it.
AnyMal said:
Which Dolphin did you try? I use Dolphin for Pad and am quite happy with it.
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Yea dolphin pad is what I tried. There is glitches when trying to login to pages and text editing glitches.
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