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Just did a linpack scan on my JG1 flashed SGS running Lagfix and got a score of 8 Mflops. Is this is a good / bad score?
What are your scores?
8.2Mflops or so on JM5. I don't think anything other than JIT (in 2.2) is going to increase that; lag fixes certainly won't change it.
Mithent said:
8.2Mflops or so on JM5. I don't think anything other than JIT (in 2.2) is going to increase that; lag fixes certainly won't change it.
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Sorry but I keep seeing JIT everywhere, anybody care to explain what it stands for and how it all relates to awesomeness (thanks)
fakekullu said:
Sorry but I keep seeing JIT everywhere, anybody care to explain what it stands for and how it all relates to awesomeness (thanks)
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JIT Just IN Time
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Android and me
its not in xxjp3 yet ha? or is it?
Also, keep in mind that Linpack is a synthetic benchmark and doesn't accurately reflect real performance. In fact, code like Linpacks will probably receive the biggest gain from JIT (more than real programs).
I'm using the I9000XXJP2 firmware and I think JIT is broken but I've been getting scores of 13.9 mflops with the lag fix installed!
I don't think it is broken but the dalvik files are not compiled to use ARM v7, cortex a8, or neon optimization.
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post your official froyo / Gingerbread bechmarks here (without lagfix)
if you got upgrade via kies
Got jp6 trough norwegian kies
1020 is highest before lagfix
2015 is highest after oclf lagfix
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as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root
AsgardCurse said:
as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root
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here is a root for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s
dadyal said:
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s
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Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?
DarthV said:
Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?
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I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )
2.2 without lagfix 1001
2.1
before: 854
after: 2273
Sorry guy for a stupid question but which app are you using for the benchmark test?
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Quadrant Standard banchmark - U can find it in market
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Thx for the app info! I got 1010
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t1mman said:
I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )
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So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.
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So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.
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you mean VFP? the Hummingbird is the one with the ARM Neon chip...
VFP is pretty much a floating point accelerator which is why benchmarks are so high on linpack which calculates floating points.
my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update
Lostja said:
my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update
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you got this update via kies ?
i flashed JPA and it go 970 - 1050
960 without
How to do the OCLF? It says "Unavailable" on everything...
Edit: got it fixed
1819 with
If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check
Score was around 1008 with standard Froyo. (Kies update)
With root and lagfix i get around 1873.
With official Enclair and lagfix i could easily get 2200+ points.
970. not the best!
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If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check
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Battery is more than 40%.
How do I root and install Ext2? (stupid question I know but I am new lol). I see it can root and install ext2 as well, but those are unavailable too.
Edit: *fixed* 1819 with lagfix
So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
[Picture of a 2330 benchmark screencap was supposed to go here, but I don't have eight post haha]
I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!
Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
weehooherod said:
Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.
quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?
david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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lexusmike said:
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.
Thread moved to General.
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).
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Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU
Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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is there a way how to speed up the gingerbread on 3d gaming like on froyo?
in froyo my NFS Shift is like 55 - 60 fps but in gingerbread its just around 30 - 40 fps..
same on Quadrant in 3d rendering the red and blue dna like rolling figure is 49 - 50 fps in FROYO but in gingerbread it wont pass 30 fps
any tweaks on how to boost 3d rendering speed?
First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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First of all, wrong section
Froyo indeed had better hardware acceleration than gb, and the kernel was also a lot better, Samsung rushed gb and messed things, but does it really affect you, the human eye can see @ ~30fps max, so does it matter?
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Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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honestly im seeing the difference.. 30fps is like lagging/stuttering to my naked eye..
i dont know but maybe its because I'm used to a high FPS on my computer.. the lowest FPS i see on my PC game is 90 fps. that's why I can differenciate 30fps to 60fps
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codewisp said:
Some people can really tell the difference. Sadly, I'm one of them
But I started using the tab as more of a work device than gaming, so the newer features of Gingerbread far outweighed the gaming performance of Froyo for me.
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LOL i'm also one of them, and this was one of the reasons HC needed froyo bootloader!
actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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actually in terms of UI rendering and office apps specially on loading.. Gingerbread beats froyo over a mile ahead.. gingerbread is smoother only the 3d gaming is the problem.. but very well going to stick on gingerbread 2.3.6..
and btw.. Froyo also allows to underclock the CPU with higher value than gingerbread.. on froyo I can run 1.4ghz with -350mv stable but on gingerbread I cant get past -50mv stable on 1.4ghz..
any other tweak on how are the others getting a monstrous 3K score on quadrant?
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GB is faster than froyo, it would more, but Samsung rushed out the update, and that ruined it partially.
UV is kernel issue, try with some other kernel first, and -350mv is insane!
3k in quadrant is nothing, its just a score, can be fooled, mostly its fooled in I/O part
-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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-350mv running stable on 1.4ghz is true..
have you tried a FROYO with any kuxodaxi's kernel?
i suggest you try it and see for yourself
yeah Gingerbread is faster in froyo but not on samsung..
on tab froyo beats gingerbread in terms of 3d gaming
by the way what is the best I/O scheduler for you?
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Honestly, no
I got my tab from my dad sometime back, and i had already updated to gb via *cough* kies *cough*, so didnt get a chance to try it out more.
i hope someone can port the UI speed of Gingerbread to the Froyo XD
Please adopt a little common sense when creating new threads.
Unless you have developed something, ROM/MOD/etc.. then the Development section is off limits for threads. Post it in General or Q&A.
You do not want to anger the XDA God of Tidiness
why do you have a common sense to spare? lol just kiddin
I wanna share with you some benchmarks I did... with Antutu.
The winner is.... Samsung 4.3 ROM ! :angel:
Warning: the ART score with the 4.4 is not accurate; I had several gapps & gallery crashes while testing the GPU score... but look at the CPU and Dalvik score...
Comparison here:
COMPARISON IMAGE
nice info!
n0my said:
nice info!
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It seems like GPU works better with the 4.3 samsung rom... but I don't think the score is cheated.... I noticed that Chrome, Facebook and everything involving pinch to zoom, pan, etc operations on some content, it's way smoother with the 4.3 sammy rom.
:victory:
I had different experience myself.
I have n7105 and was on sammy 4.1.2 that came with the phone.
No lags, the zoom in and out was lag free. very smooth.
Updated to CM 10.2 JB 4.3.1 and it gave severe lag problem on browser zoom in and scrolling.
Now on unofficial CM 11 Kitkat 4.4. Now its a lot better than the 4.3.1.
ART is kinda in an Alpha stage but... that said i't's performing wonderfully for me (except not compatibile apps). I think that actually antutu isn't accurate at benchmarking with ART but i've seen an enourmus improvement:good::good:
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ART is kinda in an Alpha stage but... that said i't's performing wonderfully for me (except not compatibile apps). I think that actually antutu isn't accurate at benchmarking with ART but i've seen an enourmus improvement:good::good:
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Sure... I don't trust antutu, I posted the comparison because lot of people ask about benchmarks on it!
I think it's a good news that they are working on making Android more efficient, so let's wait :victory:
What is the 'normal' Antutu benchmark value for stock 4.1.2?
Mine is only 16,412 really far from 20,000+ as shown in the OP's 4.1.2 ROM benchmark.
I am wondering if my low benchmark is because of the eMMC that just got replaced. The thing is that eMMC brickbug check says the chip date is 06/1997 which sounds really old...
Not sure what value this has at all... Oh wait I am, extremely little to none. Sorry OP but you need a far robuster test to give any insight and draw any conclusions. Not having a go, just saying what I see.
Benchmarks are better for comparing phones, hardware differences and of cause kernel tweaks / over clocking / under-voting. Not particularly useful for comparing ROM with ROMs. Try battery rundown tests, signal quality, camera quality, and other common daily use activities if you want to compare ROMs with one another.
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Not sure what value this has at all... Oh wait I am, extremely little to none. Sorry OP but you need a far robuster test to give any insight and draw any conclusions. Not having a go, just saying what I see.
Benchmarks are better for comparing phones, hardware differences and of cause kernel tweaks / over clocking / under-voting. Not particularly useful for comparing ROM with ROMs. Try battery rundown tests, signal quality, camera quality, and other common daily use activities if you want to compare ROMs with one another.
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I feel like you replied that thread just to make polemic.
Maybe you didn't read the thread title.
I zoom it for you:
[ANTUTU]
4.1.2 Vs 4.3 Vs 4.4 (DALVIK & ART)
NOW, do you understand? It's just an ANTUTU SCORES THREAD.
Just read over the forum board, in about every kitkat thread people ask for benchmarks on ART.
Well, I did some on antutu (it's not just a try, it's a medium value) and I shared with others.
Benchmarks are not unuseful. They are an information like others to understand how is evolving a platform.
dvn2008 said:
What is the 'normal' Antutu benchmark value for stock 4.1.2?
Mine is only 16,412 really far from 20,000+ as shown in the OP's 4.1.2 ROM benchmark.
I am wondering if my low benchmark is because of the eMMC that just got replaced. The thing is that eMMC brickbug check says the chip date is 06/1997 which sounds really old...
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With the latest Antutu they changed the algoritms and now Note 2 scores much higher than before.
With the previous versions I scored about 17000. Try the latest release (with cold phone, to prevent thermal throttling).
Neak kernel make some difference, but not too much... just about 500 points or less, over the stock kernel.
I have 21800 with super stock rom lol. Odex without root or anything else....4.1.2
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i thought 4.4 have better ram management.
thanks for sharing
Try out latest Devil Kernel !
latest Devil Kernel has new Samsung GPU Drivers ! on Antutu I get a score around 23k !
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latest Devil Kernel has new Samsung GPU Drivers ! on Antutu I get a score around 23k !
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On what rom?
it´s CM 11 unofficial by xda member "Thddude"
A good comparison