Smashed screen... - Desire HD General

Hello.
The other day i dropped my phone and it just shattered the glass on the screen.
I'm still using it (but getting little shards in my thumbs regularly) but i'm just wondering what i actually need to get to fix it; is it the digitizer or is it the LCD as well (or are they the same thing). I found this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HTC-D...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item564688b2a0
Is this all i need? And do you think i would be able to do it myself? I don't have much experience with this sort of thing but i took apart my Macbook pro and the disk drive once. (Not the same scale i know...)
Thanks

TomAshby said:
Hello.
The other day i dropped my phone and it just shattered the glass on the screen.
I'm still using it (but getting little shards in my thumbs regularly) but i'm just wondering what i actually need to get to fix it; is it the digitizer or is it the LCD as well (or are they the same thing). I found this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-HTC-D...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item564688b2a0
Is this all i need? And do you think i would be able to do it myself? I don't have much experience with this sort of thing but i took apart my Macbook pro and the disk drive once. (Not the same scale i know...)
Thanks
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Yes just need the digitizer..and watch a disassembly video to know how
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA

Thank you. So the digitiser is the glass basically?
Thomas

TomAshby said:
Thank you. So the digitiser is the glass basically?
Thomas
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Yes, the digitizer is the gorilla glass layer over the screen. It is responsible for the touch functionality in your device. If pictures on your screen are shown correctly and there isn't any dead pixel then your screen is intact and need not be replaced.

In all disassembly videos i see skipped the step where touchscreen is separated from lcd...
this step it's not so simple to do.
you need to melt the glue under under the touchscreen....
in some video is said to put in oven....10 minutes at 60 degree...but i didn't have success with disassembly these two parts

yeah, that step is difficult. I used a swiss knife blade (the small one) and could seperate the digitizer. I didnt put it in the oven or sun. But i guess its easier if u do. Just hold the knife steady parallel to the device.
I used double sided gluestrips to reatatch the digitizer but still the screen shows up a notch at the bottom of the device....seen this on many repaired DHD...so i think its very difficult to get a DHD where you dont see that its screen was replaced....

some part of the screen not function
some part of my touch screen not working. is this due to a dead pixels? if not what wil the cause of it?
Appreciate if you can assit to explain n perhaps some solution & advise.
Tqvm

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Replacement touch screen

I have couple of scratches on my touch pro screen.when the device is on the scratches are like rainbow colors really visible.If I change the touch screen (not the whole lcd screen) that will fix my problem right? Did any1 do this?
ummm i think when u meant by "rainbow colors" then ure gonna have to replace the WHOLE LCD screen, cuz more than likely its from the LCD screen, and i dont think the touch screen and LCD screen are 2 parts...i think theyre just one...not sure, but try to look on ebay OR idk if u have warranty on it u can probably call in HTC about it...
This is what I think will fix the scratches
Code:
[CODE]http://mobile1.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03976&dept_id=088&cat_id=0695
Code:
Much cheaper
For Digitizer Module for T-Mobile MDA Vario IV Touch Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20648
For HTC Diamond
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20647
I don't know if it fit the same as Touch Pro or Fuze, but read the spec
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
radoste said:
I have difficult time finding a How to replace digitizer video.
Any help?
Thanks
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Maybe this can help.Its a How to remove cameras from touch pro with pictures
Code:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/h2mmwetxnij/HTC%20Touch%20Pro%20-%20Camera%20removal%20photo%20guide%20v1.1%20by%20A%20Mak.pdf
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
radoste said:
I saw that. It does not show how to remove the screen.
Why would you want to remove the camera?
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I wouldnt, thats just the only touch pro take apart that I found with pictures
mikechannon.net is a good place to start. But if you are looking to replace the digitizer only, you won't find it there. It's a bad move anyway. I tried that, cracked my lcd and end-up buying the whole lcd like this.
All I can tell you are my mistakes.... lol....
- never peel of the digitizer. it will ruin it.
- never try to remove the lcd with cutter blade. this is how i cracked it (stupid me and still regret it)
- between the lcd and the digitizer there is a thick, clear double tape like glue. i came across some information about this somewhere (forget where...). one said you should heat the glue first (don't know how to apply this without affecting the lcd) . other one said have to use dental floss.
So, there you go.
HTC Touch Pro- LCD & Digitizer replacement instuctions
Hi everyone. I have SCOURGED the internet looking for some kind of decent instructions to replace the LCD & Digitizer screen on my HTC Touch Pro (Sprint) phone with the new set I purchased from Hong Kong. Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
I have seen you all talking about needing to do the same thing and wonder if anyone has done it? And do you have any directions to help me?
I've had this part for a month now, and can't find any directions to do it! My dog chewed it, and the touch works, but the screen is half black now. I read it is easier/less risky to replace both lcd and digitizer, which I went ahead and purchased them both with the tools, now I just need to find something decent (instructions) to have help replacing it.
thanks to anyone who can step up to help me, I'm frustrated beyond all comprehension, and now feel I may as well ditch the phone if I can't find a way to replace it. Or maybe you know someone I could send it off to? Everyone wants to charge a couple hundred bucks sending it in to them!
to the appling heat ...u can try putting it in a ziploc bag and boiling it ...and for the instructions this is the best i can do for u http://store.payloadz.com/str-asp-i...nance_Manual_eBooks_Technical-end-detail.html
im pretty sure after all ur fustration 8 dollars wont kill u ...and im pretty sure the condensation from the boiling wont hurt
and i found a free one hope it helps http://www.htcdriver.com/index.php?page=htc-raphael
it's a long trip, in russian, to get to the lcd
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-pro/
You can use Google translate on it. It seems that the hardest component to get to is the lcd. I also bought the digitizer, since my lcd is fine. I'll post a follow-up if I go for it.
Any luck getting the touch screen off and new one on?
I bought a touch screen and digitizer as separate items. I wish I had known that some kind of clear adhesive is supposed to be between them.
A) What happens if you don't use this adhesive?
B) Has anyone successfully replaced the screen/digitizer with replacements on the fuze or touch pro?
Anyone having luck?
Has anyone actually figured out how to install this? I just got what was supposed to be a replacement LCD+digitizer. they shipped the pieces seperate, so I can't understand how to put them together, since HTC seems to only list the part as one piece and there are no instructions or videos anywhere that indicate how to install them as seperate pieces, or get them to connect.
Dont do it!!
Ok, I just recently bought a parts phone on here (a Fuze) and was "just going to replace the digitizer" (Authors laughs, then cries at statement)
Ok, yes you can replace the digitizer without replacing the screen, BUT they tell you to use an oven (you can buy one from HTC they make it available to their techs, so you need someone that can get that for you). If you do not make sure that ALL of the glue is loose prior to taking the digitizer off you will split the LCD.
It is much simpler to get either a parts phone or a screen and digitizer and replace the part. I had to replace my digitizer as the touch function did not work. You can find older project phones in the market section. If you figure the cost of a parts phone (plus you have extra parts if anything else goes out) vs. if you buy a digitizer, then rip a part of the LCD because all of the glue was not disolved, and have to buy either a parts phone or a new phone anyway you will be way ahead of the game.
There are a number of good resources on here as to how to disassemble and reassemble the fuze.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TRYING TO REPLACE THE DIGITIZER ALONE IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TRAINED OR HAVE THE PROPER EQUIPMENT - unless you need a reason to sell your spouse on why you need a new phone. "Honey, I tried my hardest to fix it, but I guess it is really broke now, I'm gonna have to get an HD2"
If you have any questions about the process let me know I am always more than happy to help.
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC%20Raphael_SM_A10%20_GENERIC__01%20Dec%20
pkwhisker said:
Mike Shannon's site does NOT give directions for this specific area.
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Yes, indeed, mike channon does offer a very detailed service manual for the raphael.
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael): Some Tips
Replacing the display on the HTC Touch Pro
How To - Tips
1. Collect information
a. Find the Service Manual HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) on Mike Channons's site, the Raphael wiki or you could Google for it. File name is "HTC Raphael_SM_A10 _GENERIC__01 Dec 08.pdf".
Take a look at the disassembly and assembly chapters of the Service Manual.
The following two lists may be helpful.
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List 1: types and quantities of screws
[SPL no., P/N, pages of Service Manual, description, quantity used in Raphael]
10. 72H01893-00M (see p. 34), black (middle length), 2x
11. 72H02450-00M (see p. 32, 34, 30), black (shortest type), 7x
12. 72H02474-00M (p. 37), black (longest type), 4x
13. 72H02689-00M (p. 30), metal, 4x
26. 72H02865-00M (p. 35), metal, 6x
27. 72H02886-00M (p. 35), 1x torque screw for M/B, 1x
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List 2: kinds of tape/fabric used in the Raphael
a. Conductive fabric
Self adhesive conductive fabric, parts 14-24 on the SPL. The adhesive backside is also conductive.
b. Mylar
A specific kind of polyethylenetereftalaat (PET) used for electical insulation.
c. Kapton tape
Kapton is a polyimide film which can remain stable in a wide range of temperatures. (electrical insulation)
d. EMI gasket
EMI shields are implemented in a design to isolate one component or section of a device from another.
e. Double sided tape
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b. Movies of the disassembly process can be found on YouTube for the HTC Diamond.
The Diamond does not have an integrated keyboard, so it is a bit different, but it is good enough to get an idea of the process.
The information on how to replace the screen itself is not found in the service manual.
c. Study the last few stages of the HTC Touch Pro page on pdacenter.ru
(Translate the page into English using Google.)
The display is attached to the metal frame by 4 small pieces of double sided tape.
3. Get some tools
a. Phillips (cross head) screwdriver size 00x50
The right size is 00. The length, 50mm, is less important.
There is one torque screw in the Raphael (SPL no. 27), but it can easily be handled by a normal screwdriver.
b. Plastic stick (to open the case)
The standard plastic stick I had ordered was actually too big. The one I made myself was smaller and proved to be better.
c. Other tools
I did not use these, but if you plan to do more than one it would be a good idea to use the
- plastic tweezers
- ESD wrist wrap
- rubber gloves
4. Buy a display with touch screen attached to it
You could buy the touch screen and the display separately, but I could not find any information on putting them together. Avoid problems by buying these already attached.
5. Replace the display
a. Disassemble following the Service Manual, leaving the M/B unit in order.
Be careful not to break the small speaker cords. Do not move them too much because they are very fragile.
Be sure to keep every piece of tape safe for reassembly. Buying new tape can be quite expensive.
b. For the last stages, follow the instructions from pdacenter.ru.
Press the old display gently out of the metal frame. Move the pieces of double sided tape from the old to the new display, and fit the new one into the metal frame.
c. Reassemble following the Service Manual.
Good luck!
What will fit what?
Will the lcd and digitizer from a sprint version work on an alltel version(ppc-6850)? Or is there another lcd and digitizer that i can use? Im back to the old berry 8703 and its killing me.
spammer said:
if you just find scratches on the surface, then you just need to change the touch screen digitizer. the soldering is requested when you fit it.
But of course, if you buy the one that lcd and touch screen fit together one, then no soldering request.
Anyway, soldering is not such difficult if you has the tool.
thanks
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I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
ingmardb said:
I don't see any soldering involved there. The digitizer is fitted with thin lines of some kind of glue or kit around the edges. I have not seen any documentation on it though.
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you can look at the connect flex cable part of your touch screen and the lcd, you will find they are soldered together. Of course , if you don't soldering it together, it will also work, but not as good as after soldering.

My HTC HD2 Disassembled to the LCD

I posted in another thread about the issue of digitizer being glued to lcd. I had more pics to show, and decided disassembled pics are useful to all! So new thread for full set! If you want more I can get more! If I get enough questions I might make a tutorial for dis assembly.
General Disassembly
Slideshow:
http://img96.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2wificam2.jpg
Desoldered Digitizer Pics
Slideshow:
http://img705.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2desolderedtermina.jpg
Digitizer Removal w/ Razor
Slideshow:
http://img696.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=htchd2digioffrazor.jpg
ENJOY!
This really is a great phone!
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Fixed problem!
OH NO!! what HAVE U done!!!
I know...The horror...I haven't re-assembled to see if still working...HA!
I disassembled because of a cracked digitizer.
looks like a fur or "plastic" carpet, hope you don't end up with ESD related problems
ESD as in ElectroStatic Discharge ^^
Phone still works just fine.
If anybody knows how to un-solder the digitizer away from the lcd, help would be appreciated!
New images added.
Next up:
digitizer/lcd separation
any updates?
Have you managed to fix it yet?
We all want you to succeed so we can operate on our own cracked ones! Maybe you need the "unglue" chemical - you know, like superglue has an antiglue for reversing it's stickiness. If you could find out what glue bonded it, then a specialist adhesive supplier probably knows how to reverse it.
I'm sure you'll like this (if it isn't posted here before...)
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
Still not clear, has he finally removed the lcd on that video from the digitizer? to me it looks they're still cemented
tamas970 said:
Still not clear, has he finally removed the lcd from the digitizer? to me it looks they're still cemented
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Well if they're cemented (hopefully with some hyper-glue), thats a GOOD thing. Then this will be (hopefully) my first device with NO dust under the glass.
Don't you people have insurances on your devices? Talk to the ensurance company and you will get a new device for a small excess - that is, if it's beyond repair
Halle said:
Well if they're cemented (hopefully with some hyper-glue), thats a GOOD thing. Then this will be (hopefully) my first device with NO dust under the glass.
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its not ... I have dust under the displayglass.
Floatheavy, and everyone else.
I'm currently on my second HD2, first suffered a hairline crack on the digitizer and it went COMPLETELY unresponsive. After getting the second, I had nothing to loose and disassembled the first. I got everthing apart up to the LCM, this module has everything (the glass digitizer, the LCD and the backlight) all cemented together. As I took the phone apart, priodically I would test that it still worked - everything except the digitizer. When I tried to separate the digitizer from the LCD and baclight I ended up tearing the layers of the LCD apart, now one layer is still glued to the digitizer and one is still glued to the backlight. I have yet to see how this can safely come apart and untill I can buy the LCD the phone is totaly screwed. I think one has to purchase an entire LCM and not just the digitizer.
For those that want to try separating the digitizer - BEWARE, noone seems to have found the secret yet! If I manage to discover something new I'll post.
Yeah. I tried the heat method to separate the digi from the LCD...
No luck
It seems it is more than the simple adhesive broken down by heat.
To get the bezel away from the LCM you can use heat to make easier, but to get the digitizer away from the LCD itself remains a mystery to me.
Anybody get any other results?
OKAY..
Pics updated again...
I was able to get the digitizer apart from the LCD, using a razor.
for separate lcd and digitizer
For separate lcd and digitizer, I used nylo fisher string... and it work good... just right my problem is how to past new one ? neopren glue ?
Honestly, I plan on just adding a dot of super glue to each corner.
I believe most phone adhesives are a sylicon based glue.
It`s almost impossible to un-solder the digitizer away from the lcd, i have succeeded a few times whit hot air and very sharp cutter, but still broke 2 screens from 5...it has to be a solution for this...anyway 3 phones from 5 its not the best rate...

HD2 Digitizer+Screen

Ok i can get a hd2 for cheap £70 with pressure damage to the screen so there is a blue circle, i was wondering how hard it is to replace the screen and the digitzer? i can get them for about £55 i think but dont want to risk it if its really hard to do, i read that removing the digitizer is hard but the whole thing i cant find any info about?
I just replaced my digitizer and yes it is not easy... Most of it requires patience and right tools. I had to take mine apart twice(put keyboard in upside down lol), second time only took 30 minutes total even with readjustment of digitizer. That part is very important or the buttons feel weird and you will find gaps in top/ bottom. The htc guide on youtube is excellent, I used that, you can skip steps like disconnecting speaker cable and vibrator as you will notice if you do replace the digitizer by itself . Oh and its less expensive
I missed that you want to replace both. That is much easier. Go for it. Also search harder and look on youtube
Is there much that can go wrong replacing both? ive never opened a phone ive opened up my laptop and built pc's before though, just dont wanna pay £70 for a phone then £55+ on the screen to screw it up
Just be sure to use plastic tools, be careful, and follow guides found on these forums or on youtube. The screen is already broken so much less to worry about. I would recommend using a guitar pick (.5mm or about) when getting the main assembly out of the housing. hair dryer is a must for easy separation of the lcm module
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
ive watched this video, so does that mean that all i have to do is take the battery out, unscrew those 4 screws then remove the housing, thenn skip all the removing individual components and instead just remove the LCM module from the chasis?
I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.
cj91legss said:
I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.
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Do not do it under flying helicopter or behind running air jet plane..
I just am worried ill end up spending £70 on a phone £60 on a screen then have a phone with two broken screens lol
I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?
Hyuukai said:
I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?
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Dust in screen

A few weeks after using the Blade and I get this biggie speck of dirt, and that having a screen saver. : (
the good that has to be removed easily.
http://android.modaco.com/topic/335578-howtochange-the-digitizer-screen-zte-blade/
Photo
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...93786_100001143124401_883049_1954481787_n.jpg
I suggest u take it to a professional and tell him to clean it. u won't have to change the digitizer.
Search for "ZTE blade teardown" on YouTube. He shows how to.clean the digitizer
Sent from my Supernatural Blade
I had a lot of dust beneath the screen in my dell xcd35. Gave it for warranty and they replaced the whole Set.
Sent from my Blade using XDA app
And for who dont have warranty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCQ7KcOdAig&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Its easy
Sent from my Blade using xda premium
Help! There was a spot on the bottom right which had a lot of dust, and lost sensitivity. I decided to take the screen out. DISASTER! I managed to clean it, but now the phone lost screen touch sensitivity COMPLETELY! Anyone ever encounters this? The youtube has no audio instruction, I must have missed a step. I notice there is one part where wire is cushioned so that it touched the glass screen that lost its metal cushion. I am guessing because of this, it is unable to complete a circulation as one part is not touching the glass screen. (It's very very tiny metal cushion that I am talking about). I am just guessing. I am seeking help from anyone who encounters this and know what to do. PLEASE HELP!
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Help! There was a spot on the bottom right which had a lot of dust, and lost sensitivity. I decided to take the screen out. DISASTER! I managed to clean it, but now the phone lost screen touch sensitivity COMPLETELY! Anyone ever encounters this? The youtube has audio instruction, I must have missed a step. I notice there is one part where wire is cushioned so that it touched the glass screen that lost its metal cushion. I am guessing because of this, it is unable to complete a circulation as one part is not touching the glass screen. (It's very very tiny metal cushion that I am talking about). I am just guessing. I am seeking help from anyone who encounters this and know what to do. PLEASE HELP!
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Are you sure you haven't broken any cables inside?
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Are you sure you haven't broken any cables inside?
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I am not sure, the only thing I remember breaking is when I use a screwdriver to open up, must be too sharp and broke the little wire holder and the metal cushion.. Is there anything else that could have caused it?
I had alot of dust, after the repair ( i also got warranty) I did watch teardown movie and did it my self, pretty easy.

Repair my DHD ?

Hi all, my DHD is 18months old and I'm approaching an upgrade in a few months ( probably a G-S3 ).
The DHD didn't last very well compared to other HTC phones I've had over the years. Presently the internal LCD is cracked due to overheating at the poolside on hols, and the volume button is badly worn/loose.
I wanted to keep the phone running for one of my kids, so I've got a new volume button and also bought a used internal LCD off fleabay.
I have done dismantling jobs before on Kaisers / Hermes and even Nintento DS's so I do have tools & a steady hand.
I just wondered has anybody successfully attempted a DHD screen replacement task and are there any tips/advice.
I've seen youtube vids which are hard to follow and worryingly it seems 'heat' is required to split the touch screen from the LCD.
Can anyone provide links to a pictoral guide and especially what is required to split the screens apart.
Thanks in advance
You will need some heat to split the LCD from the digitiser as they are glued together
Sent from my Desire HD with BlackIce.
Thanks don't hurt ya know?!
be careful while separating the LCD from Touch Screen they are really glued together n by together i mean tight, i tried to change the touch screen but ended up damaging the LCD so had to order complete LCD,so make sure that u really heat the touch screen on the sides and do not rush to separate them, give them time to separate, first separate the LCD assembly from the Chassis after that this will help u Hopefully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1LKEF1RAT0
ok thanks so far, I do have hairdryers and paint-stripper heat guns too. But 1) does there need to be more adhesive applied to re-glue to the replacement LCD screen & 2) does the need to be any compression or re-application of heat to re-bond?
edit: also , would still like a link to a pictorial guide to get me to the point of extracting the screen assy
ebod said:
ok thanks so far, I do have hairdryers and paint-stripper heat guns too. But 1) does there need to be more adhesive applied to re-glue to the replacement LCD screen & 2) does the need to be any compression or re-application of heat to re-bond?
edit: also , would still like a link to a pictorial guide to get me to the point of extracting the screen assy
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I have successfully replaced the digitizer on my old DHD.
However, after replacement the screen looks a bit out of place in the chassis. And as I have learned from others who have done so, the screen almost always appears to have been tempered with.
Also be both very gentle and patient as you carry on the dissassembly.
Good luck!

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