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Hey folks, I've read through all the JI6 OTA threads here and on the TMo forums and while I've seen a few people guess as to the cause of soft bricks, dosen't seem like anyone has nailed down the actual cause. I'm going to assume I'm not the only person out there with no access to a windows box to run ODIN so knowing what if anything can be done to prep my phone before accepting the OTA (that is sitting in my notification bar as we speak) would be immensely helpful.
So far the two best guesses I've seen are the existence of other update.zip files on SD and removal of bloatware, specifically Media Hub and possibly edited startup/shutdown screens.
Since I've got all these going on, I guess I'm staring down the barrel of a brick. But obviously one of these is easily rectified while the others, not so much.
Aside from those claiming bricks on vigin phones. Can we hear from those who have made mods to their rooted devices and either did or did not experience an OTA brick? I think this info will be helpful to many in sorting out what exactly is going on here.
I have black bar mod, I have naked swype, removed most t-mob app except media hub no change to start up or shut downtried to update. 50 % through it said update failed. Then rebooted fine. But I had an extra update.zip on my sd so maybe that's why. But no firmware now? Maybe I'm sol.
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Mine wouldn't complete the update Rooted, most of the bloat removed, had an update on the sd. Was able to get into clockwork after the failed update and am performing a nandroid restore now.
this is great, thank you. beginning to look more like an issue with extra update.zip files than media hub. any successful OTA's with media hub removed prior to accepting the update?
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I never uninstalled Media Hub. I have seen a correlation of about 5 people who had ROM manager installed and used that to install Recovery. Whether it be the installation of Recovery or a possible permissions issue with how it generates the update.zip that may have caused my issue.
just a question, why do people remove media hub? Does the application make the phone slow?
iynfynity said:
just a question, why do people remove media hub? Does the application make the phone slow?
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Because up until now, it was a non-functional app. I didn't remove it, I use LauncherPro so I just removed it from my drawer. I'm still not touching this update. I got my Vibrant used so I would be out of luck if it jacked my phone up and I hate using ODIN. Too much hassle when my phone runs great on Bionix 1.4 as it is.
Wife's phone was toasted by OTA. Stuck at Vibrant screen. Rooted, unlocked, she did have an update.zip, if that turns out to be the culprit. Also had some apps removed, replacement startup animations, and removed shutdown junk.
She was set for always-on WiFi, too.
My rooted Vibrant soft bricked yesterday and I had to flash stock with Odin. I had the (what seems to be infamous) update.zip, removed Kindle, Mobi TV, Avatar Icon, Gogo. I had RyanZAOneClickLagFixV1+ installed but removed it. I also had the EXT2 Tools installed. @ the time of the update I was @ work and had a full charge on the phone. I flashed back to stock last night after work, and I haven't recieved the update notificaiton again...maybe TMo crossed me off some type of "update list"?
There are also different possible symptoms.
In my case the update appeared to have completed its cycle, except the tail end of the download of the new update wnt really fast then the system rebooted. System came back up into the Black Vibrant screen. I could start 'adb logcat' and the system had SurfaceFlinger repeatedly crashing.
Attempts in Recovery Mode after this to reinstall files didn't resolve the issue, reboots would still lead to a crashing SurfaceFlinger.
2 separate users in a thread, 1 had removed Boot Animations + Sounds, I only had removed Sounds.
Quite a few people had Stock Roms + Root, but some with Root didn't have any issues. Only correlation was with Titanium + Rom Manager, which a lot of people would have installed since it's listed in the Tips and Tricks thread. Titanium shouldn't do anything to the system unless you generate a backup Update.zip or install LZO support busybox.
One guess is that ROM Manager and Titanium can create a update.zip file that doesn't have the proper permissions. An OTA update that attempts to overwrite this file may get confused. Simply removing the file in advance may alleviate this issue. Another issue is ROM Manager installs ROM Recovery, which may change how the OTA perceives the phone.
Bionix 1.4...
I was running Bionix 1.4 KK OC/UV yesterday morning... Was a little dumbfounded when I received the update message from Tmo. Figured it wouldn't show w/ modded handset. Delayed install until I could read everything on here about it. Tried installing over Bionix last night just to see, and had no joy. I had removed all crapware, mediahub included. Hit 50%, said flash failed, rebooted and was back to my homescreen in no time. No ill effects to phone except being denied upgrade.
So I Odined back to Stock JFD FW (and wiped device for S&G), rooted, and updated from JI6 tar posted. Flashed perfectly, no ill effects as I've noticed. Reception is improved (for me anyway), and GPS functions similar to Bionix... No real incentive for update, but was curious.
I see Bionix 1.7 updated so it was all for nothing.
Now to play with other stuff...
Cheers
My girl friends phone bricked the other night from the OTA, it's rooted(update.zip) and has the bloatware uninstalled, nothing else like lagfix/roms on it etc.
T-Moible is sending her a replacement phone, which im pretty surprised about. Now since we have to send the old phone back so they can check for damage or anything that would void the warrenty.
We get to keep the external SD card(Avatar), now im sure there is a pretty good chance they will find that its been rooted. So we would have to pay $400 they said if its voided.
Now I can't get this phone to boot into download mode or even mount it, so what should I do? I know about ODIN but have never used it, can it mount the phone?
I got the soft brick and had to flash back to stock via Odin and then I flashed the JI6 tar file from the forum. All is working fine now.
I had root but no update.zip file on the sdcard root, had removed startup an shutdown sounds, had used both ROM Manager and Titanium (with LZO compression turned on), and had removed bloatware including the non-functioning Media Hub.
Next time I'll flash back to stock before doing an OTA update.
I am rooted have Titanium backup, ROM Manager, and clockwork mod. I also had an update.zip but I think it was from OCLF not from another source. My update went fine and I'm running without any problems on the new update.
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My girl friends phone bricked the other night from the OTA, it's rooted(update.zip) and has the bloatware uninstalled, nothing else like lagfix/roms on it etc.
T-Moible is sending her a replacement phone, which im pretty surprised about. Now since we have to send the old phone back so they can check for damage or anything that would void the warrenty.
We get to keep the external SD card(Avatar), now im sure there is a pretty good chance they will find that its been rooted. So we would have to pay $400 they said if its voided.
Now I can't get this phone to boot into download mode or even mount it, so what should I do? I know about ODIN but have never used it, can it mount the phone?
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Woo, got it unbricked! finally got into download mode and ODIN saved the day.
this video was helpful for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnY7P14JSWQ
^ODIN walkthrough
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I'm going to assume I'm not the only person out there with no access to a windows box to run ODIN
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there is a cross platform tool being developed called 'Heimdall'. It is currently a command line tool and is in beta. however people are successfully flashing their phones using it. It is obviously not a 'one click' solution, so you will have to go find the proper files and type out the command.
It can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755265#
If you are the type of person with access to both a windows machine and a linux machine, I suggest you check this out. Testers are needed. Of course you can test if you don't have windows, but it's nice to have Odin as a back up. ;-) just incase....
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I had a failed update twice using Odin. It wasn't until I went back to stock T959JFD for the second time and deleted update.zip and all clockwork back ups that it finally worked. Runs perfect with no issues.
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Was rooted with OCLF, Captive camera, gps fix, rom manager, titanium backup and add removal. Removed the OCLF and unrooted, ran the update, looked like it got to 100% (not sure cause I looked away and then back at it right before reboot) but said update failed. Got stuck at the vibrant screen blah blah. I'm pretty sure I had an update.zip on the sd, but not 100% on that. After pushing the update with ODIN I have noticed my phone lagging quite a bit.... Thoughts?
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Read This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9542514&postcount=662
Alternatively, just read my installation instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004
I think I'm going to start using a rar format - might be a way to differentiate between the actual release and the update.zip inside. Not sure why I didn't think of that, before.
Still not that simple for me, since even a "Gtablet Vet" like myself tried the OP method and failed. My second out of box new Gtablet went in perma-loop when simply installing straight to 2.0, via recovery folder & update.zip. Ended up having to get CW on the device by putting on the sd card, remapping command and stopping the loop with power + volume to get CW installed. I then had to install TnT 1.02 and then finally got 2.0 installed after that (cache and data wipe of course).
Cleanest way seems install 1.02 via recovery folder / update.zip method and then install 2.0 the same way. Thats is unless I just had bad luck with second Gtablet. VERY possible.
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Frankly, we seem at the stage now where CW seems a survival requirement- IF you want to keep trying new roms & updates.
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Alternatively, just read my installation instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842004
I think I'm going to start using a rar format - might be a way to differentiate between the actual release and the update.zip inside. Not sure why I didn't think of that, before.
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u didn't think of it because it was only a problem to ppl that half read the instructions, downloaded the zips and just tried to install as-is...
Also don't understand why ppl want to keep standard recovery, clockwork is made to install custom roms so its easier for these task
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u didn't think of it because it was only a problem to ppl that half read the instructions, downloaded the zips and just tried to install as-is...
Also don't understand why ppl want to keep standard recovery, clockwork is made to install custom roms so its easier for these task
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The only issue with cwm is that it's not easy to remove it, once you have it. I think you need to use nvflash to get rid of it. I love cwm but I can't assume that everyone uses it.
And trust me, not everyone does. I sees posts here and I get PM's as well, and many people are still using standard recovery.
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The only issue with cwm is that it's not easy to remove it, once you have it. I think you need to use nvflash to get rid of it. I love cwm but I can't assume that everyone uses it.
And trust me, not everyone does. I sees posts here and I get PM's as well, and many people are still using standard recovery.
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Installing TnT 1.0 roms appears to zap CW pretty good.
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The only issue with cwm is that it's not easy to remove it, once you have it. I think you need to use nvflash to get rid of it. I love cwm but I can't assume that everyone uses it.
And trust me, not everyone does. I sees posts here and I get PM's as well, and many people are still using standard recovery.
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I have found that you can put the stock recovery img (let's call it recovery-stock.img) on the sdcard and get an adb shell while booted into cw recovery. Then it's just a
Code:
flash_image recovery recovery-stock.img
That should get you back to stock recovery.
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LRiley said:
u didn't think of it because it was only a problem to ppl that half read the instructions, downloaded the zips and just tried to install as-is...
Also don't understand why ppl want to keep standard recovery, clockwork is made to install custom roms so its easier for these task
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I had to go back to stock at first because I kept getting status 7 errors with CW. Roebeet's suggestion to partition sdcard with CWR seems to have solved that.
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Flashed 2.0.0
I liked TnT 2.0.0 and it really helped performance but the gtab is still full of issues....
Out of the box my Gtab's proprietary email and photo app forced closed before ever loading. the viewsonic update didn't fix it and so I flashed it with TnT 2.0.0.
I got a System UID's warning while I did it and I guess that was the cause of those apps not working. I then did a system reset to factory default or whatever its called and lost everything but after flashing TnT 2.0.0 again it worked a lot better and the email app worked great, photo app still doesn't work. My new problems are that the sound and and flash don't work anymore. I reinstalled flash and the browser just crashes whenever flash is involved with a site. Sound will sometimes work when I first boot up but it quits after a while, especially after waking from sleep. A lot of the time I get crackles and pops when I first boot up or wake it from sleep.
I am returning this Gtab and I am going to buy another one from somewhere else in hopes that I don't get these issues out of the box.....I haven't read anywhere that anyone has experienced these specific problems other than the sound; as this is a TnT error; so I warn all, DON'T BUY FROM STAPLES!!!
I'm just writing this quick (somewhat) noob-proof guide, because some people are asking questions still.
Requirements: 8.6.5.19 WW Firmware version (or one with the App Backup application)
Get Root:
1. Download and install RazorClaw app on your device (http://androidroot.mobi/2011/11/14/introducing-razorclaw-v1/)
2. After install run the app, read the info and press "Root me nao!"
3. If successful, SuperUser app should appear in the app list (This needs to be updated via Market link)
Note:
by wolf849
--install option is not working for some reason on TF101G and su needs to be installed manually after temp root .
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Install Custom Recovery (CWM):
0. This comes after rooting, not before!!!
1. Download Recovery Installer app on your device (Link by gnufabio)
2. Install app, run, click to install recovery
3. Device reboots, and if successful, it installs recovery and boots back into OS.
Install Custom Rom:
0.Download the ROM and check MD5sum (always do that) - free programs canb be found everywhere to check. When done, put it on your MicroSD card, not the internal memory (therefore MicroSD card needed )
1. Reboot to CWM you just installed (I used Transformer reboot to recovery app)
2. BACKUP!!! current ROM (click on backup/restore option in CWM) - navigate with volume buttons, power button.
3. When backup finished, choose Install .zip from SD Card, choose the file you have downloaded - wait for the process, then reboot.
4. Done
- More information regarding flashing ROMs, addons can be fount in the Development forum.
If you want to (Do it! ) - Thank (and buy a beer) to all the developers, who made this possible!!!
Followed these steps and worked flawlessly! Running overclocked 1.5ghz on Revolver ROM / Clemsen 21 kernel with my newly rooted B7O SBK2. Smokin fast, no force closes, and smooth as silk. RayMan and his team at Android Root Mobi are great! I was shocked to see the breakthrough in rooting SBK2 devices yesterday. Jumped on it and it's the easiest root and custom ROM install I have ever done (previous experience with Nook Color, Viewsonic Gtab, Acer A500). Installed automatic Airplane mode app and getting amazing battery results. Keyboard doc is performing great too!
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Airplane mode app and getting amazing battery results. Keyboard doc is performing great too!
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Can you tell me what app is that exactly? Thanks!
Excelant informatie, didn't know it was SO easy to root (still used to the HTC Hero way) you confinsed me to get root and install revolver rom (mostly for the battery life!) Thanks again
Please tell me I can do this on my EEE Pad Slider.....
Thanks in advance -
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I opened the URL referenced in the OP and saw that the Slider will be tested soon. Please disregard my post.
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Oh wow thanks! I originally just thought the B70+ can just only be rooted and not be able to install a custom recovery and custom rom too.
This is awesome. It makes my purchase of a TF that much sweeter.
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Can you tell me what app is that exactly? Thanks!
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I use this one, it's great. It extend my battery life almost double.
https://market.android.com/details?...vbS5ibG9nc3BvdC5kb25rdW4zLmF1dG9haXJwbGFuZSJd
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I use this one, it's great. It extend my battery life almost double.
https://market.android.com/details?...vbS5ibG9nc3BvdC5kb25rdW4zLmF1dG9haXJwbGFuZSJd
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Yes, this is the one I was referring to above. It works well for me. When using CPU Spy app, I am getting great "deep sleep" results using Auto Airplane Mode app.
Don't see why you would use that app sinse it's fixed in the new firmware update?
Excellent root guide
Just "rooted" my TF; so smooth I attempted it twice! Couldn't believe it was so painless. Congrats and kudos to all involved. Just one simple question, most likely been asked before so I apoligise in advance; when firmare is updated, does device have to be re-rooted or will it carry over?
I rooted and installed Revolver rom on my B70 a few days ago using this method and did a and factory reset, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache before updating the zip. Everything works fine though, but is this the correct procedure? For future falshes: do I need to wipe again in CWM after the zip update? Thanks.
If you're just updating the same ROM no need to wipe. It's recommended of you're switching to a different ROM that you do a full wipe
ZOMG... you guys are freaking AMAZINg. i was soooo disappointed when i found out the B70+ weren't rootable. but you guys saved me from selling this for soemthing else!!! Look for some beer moneys coming your way!
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Don't see why you would use that app sinse it's fixed in the new firmware update?
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Not necessarily. I tested both and using this app gave me another 10% efficiency in battery. This app gives me a fail safe sleep solution no matter what. Been using TF101 in dock since 7am this morning for email, stock quotes, etc. Using about 15 minutes per hour. After bout 6 hours dock is at 94% and tablet at 99%. Maybe the firmware will do that, but this app is gold for me. I have a B7O SBK2 which I rooted on Monday with Razor. Using Revolver and Revolver Parts. Overclocked with Prime kernel. Running 1.5gz with profiles using SetCPU. Milking everything out of this thing possible and it's flawless! I probably will not put on the charger until Friday. Watched an hour of Netflix last night with very little battery drain. With a "performance" profile in SetCPU at 1.5gz, I get a 3350 Quadrant test score. My normal profile is "interactive". Gotta go!! Have a good day.
I get a parsing error everytime I attempt to run the APK. Any ideas? I really want my device rooted.
thanks so much....
immediately root n install custom rom....
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I get a parsing error everytime I attempt to run the APK. Any ideas? I really want my device rooted.
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I was having the same problem. Install All the firmware updates first. Then run the App.
- Nikko Benson
Just downloaded it and ran it, succes! Rooted thanks!
ps xredbeardx and nikkobenson, try redownloading it using an other browser on your PC and transfur it to your SD card instead of the SSD.
this is the easiest rooting procedure I've ever used for ANY device. BUT I desperately need to UNROOT my device. I rooted three nights ago, my Transformer 's screen is messing up and I really need to return it to the seller which I purchased it from, but I don't want to do so with a rooted device. PLEEEEASEEE tell me you guys can help me unroot? I have B70 device. Thanks so much for any help you can provide. You will seriously make my year and save me $330
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this is the easiest rooting procedure I've ever used for ANY device. BUT I desperately need to UNROOT my device. I rooted three nights ago, my Transformer 's screen is messing up and I really need to return it to the seller which I purchased it from, but I don't want to do so with a rooted device. PLEEEEASEEE tell me you guys can help me unroot? I have B70 device. Thanks so much for any help you can provide. You will seriously make my year and save me $330
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I'm interested to know this too. I've just bought a Transformer so I guess it'll be B70 or higher, so if something does go wrong, like the device bricks or we need to claim on warranty, how can we go about fixing it? Apparently NVflash doesn't work, is there an alternative? :/
I've finally lost patience with my TF101 boot looping and being flat when I come to use it. Asus clearly aren't in a rush to fix it, and I can't find an alternative tablet that I'm happy to replace it with right now, so I've decided to give guevor's version a go.
The problem being that I've read a load of threads on rooting a TF, but still haven't come to a conclusion on which method actually works for a WW one on 9.2.1.17, if there even is one!
So any chance some one could help me out and point me in the right direction? Thanks
Use Vipermod to root. Search the forum for link.
Thanks, I'll take a look.
Just wanna check my list with you experienced guys before getting stuck in, mostly because it's been a while since I did anything like this and I can't find a thorough guide for the whole process.
1. Root with vipermod.
2. Install ROM manager from the market and use to flash CWM recovery.
3. Boot into CWM recovery and make backup.
4. Copy kernel .zip file to storage of the TF.
5. Boot into CWM recovery and select install .zip option.
6. Enjoy new kernel and hope for no more bootloop/flat battery scenarios making me angry?
Correct, except you shouldn't use apps like Rom Manager to do things that you can easily do yourself. Don't blindly flash whatever Rom Manager tells you to because sometimes it will screw up your tablet. Haven't you read all these threads about people having problems because of ROM manager?
Just use the recovery installer apk by Gnufabio. It will flash a slightly outdated CWM but it works without problems and you can update it yourself by downloading and flashing a newer CWM posted on this forum.
I can confirm viper for root, and gnufabio recovery installer.apk. I just went through the process last night. If you do not use gnufabio you will spend hours trying to get cwm on your device, and failing.(2 hours of dead androids in recovery) wish i had seen gnufabio sooner.
Edit: also theres a remixed viper out there supposed to be a 1 click root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534475 is the link
Also i suggest the touch cwm from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723
It works very well and all touch so no need to press physical buttons.
Thanks for the input guys, it's very much appreciated.
I haven't seen the threads on problems with ROM manager. I've just been searching for specific terms and TBH I find this forum generally difficult to find up to date information. It's very time consuming searching and reading lots of nothing posts. The TF info threads have a lot of links to outdated guides (or ones that lack detail as they assume you know everything already ) and a lot of the shortened terminology that's used is confusing unless you visit here. I've read as much as I can, but I wanted to be sure I had the right information before trying out something that could render my tablet useless.
Typical, fallen at the first hurdle!
"hold volume down and power for 3 seconds, let go of power only, then press volume up when prompted on screen" just results in a screen with an Android with a red triangle on his chest. More extensive searching needed I suppose.
lol nope this is my problem i told you about in earlier post
get the recoveryinstall.apk by gnufabio install it on your tf and run it. it installs a working cwm then you can do the touch cwm,kernel rom etc after that
gnufabio installer link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346180
Oops, yeah sorry that passed me by some how! Busy day.
Thanks again!!
no problem bro thats what we are here for to help you catch those moments when your about to bash your head against the wall and say "oh hey didnt you see this..." and make you slap your forehead instead.
Finally got around to doing this. All OK so far, got it rooted and touch CWM installed but I'm a bit unsure about what caches and stuff I should wipe. Do I need to do both wipe data/factory reset AND/OR wipe cache partition in the touch CWM recovery before flashing the new kernel?
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Finally got around to doing this. All OK so far, got it rooted and touch CWM installed but I'm a bit unsure about what caches and stuff I should wipe. Do I need to do both wipe data/factory reset AND/OR wipe cache partition in the touch CWM recovery before flashing the new kernel?
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I ALWAYS do a full wipe, dalvik cache the lot when flashing a different ROM, if you're just flashing a new kernel no need for wipe data just dalvik cache
Thanks for the reply. I found some posts last night where peeps were not wiping anything so I just flashed the 16b test kernel. Seems to be all OK so far.
I have the same issue...no recovery. Ive downloaded the gnufabio recovery file from the link, however i was expecting an .apk file that could be installed from the tablet OS desktop maybe usinf File Mgr. What the link downloads is a .zip w/ some folders and asstd files. Everyone is referring to it as an apk...Im confused.
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I have the same issue...no recovery. Ive downloaded the gnufabio recovery file from the link, however i was expecting an .apk file that could be installed from the tablet OS desktop maybe usinf File Mgr. What the link downloads is a .zip w/ some folders and asstd files. Everyone is referring to it as an apk...Im confused.
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It should be an apk. Did you use the link in his thread?
I have links to the apk in post 218 also including a modified version that will flash Team Rouge recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22359727&postcount=218
Thank you very much for those links...yes, those were apks. I have been looking for those links for sometime.
flashed the RecoveryInstaller.apk, giving me a recovery system to work from, now Im restored, rooted, ROMd and OC'd...thanks for the links!!
Since rooting mine, flashing the 16b kernel and OCing to 1600mhz it's been completely stable and fast. I just hope that continues!
Thanks everyone for your kindly assistance.
I'm running completely stock, no rom anything. Just flashed updates from users here to update me to the latest HC. I received the ICS update but pretty sure it won't work since I'm rooted and running CWM recovery. What do I need to do to install ICS? thanks
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I'm running completely stock, no rom anything. Just flashed updates from users here to update me to the latest HC. I received the ICS update but pretty sure it won't work since I'm rooted and running CWM recovery. What do I need to do to install ICS? thanks
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Same question here
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Same question here
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I am in the same camp.
I'm running a rooted 3.2 stock by Timmy Dean.
I'm happy I didn't jump the gun when I Saw the update last night, because it seems I would have truly been screwed.
What I would like to know is if a rooted 3.2 can simply be unrooted. Seems this would the simplest thing to do.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Apparently the root doesn't matter. It will just be removed when we install the ota ICS. What worries me is recovery. Because it has to boot into a recovery to install ICS. I had CWM installed then flashed to stock by acer recovery tool in the play store. But when I manually boot into recovery, I get a exclamation point inside a triangle. What recovery are you guys running?
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Apparently the root doesn't matter. It will just be removed when we install the ota ICS. What worries me is recovery. Because it has to boot into a recovery to install ICS. I had CWM installed then flashed to stock by acer recovery tool in the play store. But when I manually boot into recovery, I get a exclamation point inside a triangle. What recovery are you guys running?
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I have CWM recovery by thor2002. I think we can't update via ITS unless we flash original recovery
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3d0rr said:
I have CWM recovery by thor2002. I think we can't update via ITS unless we flash original recovery
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Yeah I think so as well. I flashed stock via the Acer recovery tool but I get nothing when I boot into recovery except what I stated above. I'm not sure if that's right or not.
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I was happily running timmydean's rooted 3.2.1 based on the leaked OTA. The ICS upgrade came through and installed just fine. No loss of data and the programs I tried all worked. I was on stock 4.0.4 unrooted.
However, I'm now borked. I rebooted into recovery (Power, Vol -) to see about rooting via the backdoor I'd installed. I had thor's 1.7 Touch CWM recovery installed. I got some weird message that recovery was broken. (Don't recall the exact msg.)
After that, it hung on the "android" screen. Soft-bricked.
So I did a factory reset (Power, vol+, rock screen switch) and ended up back on 3.2.1. Now, the Settings > About > Check update results in the "Network coverage is currently poor. Please move to a location with better coverage to continue." message.
My WiFi is fine, speedtest.net reports a 20 Mbps download. All other apps function well. I'm pulling a DCHP address from my router.
I'm fairly sure this is a badly-worded error message from Acer and actually refers to server overload or some other issue on their end.
Also, installing the latest Acer Iconia Update preps the system for ICS. At one point, installing it allowed the update to proceed, but not to ICS. Uninstalling/reinstalling that update seemed to jog the system at one time.
So I tried wiping data/cache/dalvik and went back to stock 3.2. Same error message when updating. Wiped again and went back to stock 3.0.1. Same error message.
So I'm stuck and am going to give it a few days to see if Acer can sort out their upgrade path. If not, I will probably load CM9 or Thor's ICS ROM. (I do have a Nandroid, so I can get back to where I was pre-ICS.)
All in all, I'm very disappointed in Acer for borking my tablet.
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Update: So now a day later, the "poor coverage" message was replaced by an "update available". Installed A500_7.014.03_com_gen1, after reboot, another update A500_7.014.15_com_gen1 installed. I am now on stock 3.2.1.
System update shows "Your device is up to date".
Will see what tomorrow brings, but this is certainly frustrating.
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I am in the same camp.
I'm running a rooted 3.2 stock by Timmy Dean.
I'm happy I didn't jump the gun when I Saw the update last night, because it seems I would have truly been screwed.
What I would like to know is if a rooted 3.2 can simply be unrooted. Seems this would the simplest thing to do.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
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Could you guys running the backdoor and still rooted please try this:
1) Try and capture the build no. of the update
2) See if the update will download BUT do not install yet
3) Go to /cache/fota/ and find the zip -
4) copy it to yr external sd
5) post back the build no.
thanks!!!
Procedure for manual install:
1/ rename the file as : update.zip
2/ place the file on the micro sd card
3/ turn off the tablet
4/ press the down volume key and the power button at the same time untill the tablets turns on
5/ the iconia will start the upgrade process by itself.
OR just redownload the update and it install
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I had trouble when i reverted to stock in the weekend
and it was a bit of a process to get the OTA's to 3.2.1.
I did manage to hold "full root" but had to revert a couple of times
by putting stock recovery back and using backdoor .
I accidentally factory reset and everything went a bit pear shaped from there...oops!!
Im still waiting for the OTA ICS - getting network coverage error -one good thing
is my partners tab is only 5 days old and still pure factory,
her tab shows same error so at least we know its not root/backdoor problem
So yeah if u gonna take the OTA best to get rid of the backdoor unless you wanna play guinea pig for us all>>>>
dunno why we aint found one of those yet
I dont think you can cause too much of a problem where a "hard reset" pwr/vol -/rotation lock/ combo wont fix...you can then root from there.
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3d0rr said:
I have CWM recovery by thor2002. I think we can't update via ITS unless we flash original recovery
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hi 3d0rr!!
i think those of us with the backdoor should be meticulous if/when taking the OTA.
we shouldnt need to unroot and use stock recovery as the ota should get rid of that in the flash. But to ensure a stress free OTA it may pay to do it anyway.
i know you previously told me u were stock gen 1 - but is that from factory, just finished reading a very interesting post regarding the different 'gens' so i for one am sticking with factory build gen :just for the official OTA anyway:
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hi 3d0rr!!
i think those of us with the backdoor should be meticulous if/when taking the OTA.
we shouldnt need to unroot and use stock recovery as the ota should get rid of that in the flash. But to ensure a stress free OTA it may pay to do it anyway.
i know you previously told me u were stock gen 1 - but is that from factory, just finished reading a very interesting post regarding the different 'gens' so i for one am sticking with factory build gen :just for the official OTA anyway:
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Dibb_nz, I was stock gen 2. I don't wanna take OTA until be sure it's safe. Unless now I know that a hard factory reset may save my tab if something happen.
Can you tell us where did you read that post about 'gens'? I still a little confuse about that
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BTW, the network coverage errors seems to be an Acer's error. First I received OTA and a day after that I see that error on my tab. And a couple of hours later I have OTA again. So, don't worry, you should get OTA asap
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3d0rr said:
BTW, the network coverage errors seems to be an Acer's error. First I received OTA and a day after that I see that error on my tab. And a couple of hours later I have OTA again. So, don't worry, you should get OTA asap
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oh sounds promising, although I just read another post from someone across the ditch in OZ he reckoned acer said they were working on a patch for the problems theyre havin with the first update...who knows
now m8, sorry to confuse you, that wasnt my intention, but i try to make sure that i;m not suggesting things which may end with you or others borkin or brickin yr tab. Ive spent the last few days reading thousands of posts (just like everyone else) thankfully we are fortunate in being able to learn from the mistakes of others I know a bit more about ics than i did 3 days ago let me tell you, lol.
i just finished helpin out a fellow "timmy-ite" stuck with no way of getting in to apx mode to get un-borked...well didnt really help just a sounding board more than anything
he got himself up and running, used the apx tool in my sig, unlocked the bootloader, rooted, flashed custom recovery did a nand and is now running flexreaper - with the tools and knowledge he gained he now has the choice to go back to HC to get the OTA or not....he's one happy camper!!!
Have a read have a read thru the threadhere. ask him a question or two if you want - but dont get too hung up "maybe doing something wrong" you won't be the only person ever to experience that uhh-ohh sinking feeling when you know you shouldnt have just done whatever it was that u just did
Theres always someone round here who will help - usually cos they done the same silly lthings themselves - why ya think i'm always posting
what is the backdoor program you guys talk about?
tu3218 said:
what is the backdoor program you guys talk about?
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timmydean's root method also allows you to install a backdoor to re-root after accepting an OTA. You have to manually install it during the rooting process, so you would know if you had it.
jpinsl said:
timmydean's root method also allows you to install a backdoor to re-root after accepting an OTA. You have to manually install it during the rooting process, so you would know if you had it.
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timmyDean How to root stock 3.2.1
Summary:
Version V4 is the same as V3 with the only difference being that there is a NEW backdoor script which has some additional features to protect root(#) from getting broken when you do an OTA. I also applied these to this flash image so you wouldn't have to add the additional protection yourself. V4 also has the drivers for XP included. However, when taking an OTA you should also install the backdoor for additional protection. However, you cannot leave the backdoor installed as it turns off sound. So having a little more protection just might save your root in case you take an OTA and forget to install the backdoor.
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beat me to it
its a completely stock gen2 rooted and cwm - you can use to unbrick, or go back to stock. only for HC bootloaders though.....
This worked to me
tu3218 said:
I'm running completely stock, no rom anything. Just flashed updates from users here to update me to the latest HC. I received the ICS update but pretty sure it won't work since I'm rooted and running CWM recovery. What do I need to do to install ICS? thanks
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Well my friend, this worked to me... I hope this can help somebody else:
Original ROM: Acer A500 3.2.1 COM_GEN2 Rooted and with CWM using Timmy's method.
1) Go to play market and install Acer Recovery Installer.
2) Open Acer Recovery and verify with recovery do you have. In my case it was CWM recovery by thor2002ro 1.5
3) Install stock recovery. Make a backup of your old recovery when ask.
4) Factory reset: in my case, I made a backup of all my data and used Titanium to backup some apps. Then I harded reset my tab by turning it off and the combo pwd + vol(+) then lock-unlock switch 3 times until I saw "eraing user data" in the top-left corner.
5) turn on the tab and go to google play. Search for acer and install Update enhancement.
6) Go to settings-> about-> system update and aply the OTA update.
You will lost root, but everything should work fine.
To gain root access again, you can follow this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546593
Now I have rooted stock ICS and I'm so happy
Hey great write up, will try this as soon as I'm off work. Anyway to confirm stock recovery is installed? Because I have done what you said(just the flash stock recovery part) an when I boot into recovery I just get a triangle an exclamation point. Not sure if thats right or not. But I will definitely give this a go since you were running exactly what I'm running now.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
3d0rr said:
Well my friend, this worked to me... I hope this can help somebody else:
Original ROM: Acer A500 3.2.1 COM_GEN2 Rooted and with CWM using Timmy's method...
...To gain root access again, you can follow this thread - ...xda-developers.com/showthread...
Now I have rooted stock ICS and I'm so happy
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yay for 3d0rr you finally took the plunge congrats!!!!!
@tu3218
That download link is no longer available
instead download blackthund3r's one-click-root,
google "ICS Root for Windows"
At step 3 - After you have backed up -
Copy the uid.txt file from the backup folder - this holds your cpu id -
you're probably gonna need it at sum stage
I followed your instructions and it went perfect!!! Rocking ics now. Thanks for the help. First thing I notice, soooo much faster an full of butter.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA