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8 gb is a possiblity for universal? is nuclear right?

well im sure some of you have read post from this guy. about how he is able to read files from his eight gb sd card in is uni even tho it only says 2 gb on his device. has anyone else gotten one of these supposed magical cards and tried it out? i searched on ebay and it seems to be that only one guy has or sells this specific card . is nuclear advertising for this guy , is he a scammer or is this true and we dont know about it yet. please give input if you have gotten one of these cards and have tested it out.

Even all those 4GB SD-cards are already non-standard and not working in most of the devices. From 4GB upwards they have to be SDHC-cards (SD 2.0) which are not supported by the Universal's reader. Sure, it would be possible to manufacture 8GB SD-cards, but it's very unlikely that they work in a lot of devices since SD was never meant to have more than 2GB.
Cheers,
-mARKUS

well i just saw today that a treo that was supposedly not able to support sdhc is now able to because of a firmware update. check engadgetmobile.com if that can be done with a treo why not the universal. if its a software problem im sure there are people in here that are able to help

Sorry about my long post but i am trying to give as much information as i can in one post.
I am requesting ROM builders to start firmware upgrades to support these 4GB and 8GB cards. Windows Crossbow doesnt support 4GB or 8GB SD only cards, instead it reads them and reformats them changing the firmware of the card to 2GB!!!!... I havent tried SDHC yet. Here are pictures of my 4GB Extreme III SanDisk SD only card. I couldnt upload it here so i zipped them and uploaded them to rapidshare. Helmi's AKU 3.5 ROM doesnt read a card formatted using Crossbow... i dont know its just too many details. I cant think. But I just want to let you guys know that you are right so far on your research. Keep the good work up!
http://rapidshare.com/files/8938902/sandisk_tech_support.zip
I emailed sandisk tech support these images. It seems they havent replied yet. Keep a track on all my threads as i keep posting about these cards everywhere.
Trust me its just because i have a lot of money that i am able to get my hands on these things. And i just keep posting my observations. I would even get my hands on the 32GB card if I could bribe the CEO of SanDisk.
It got reformatted to 2GB.. I am unable to make it 4GB again.
My 8GB card as you can see in pictures on ebay is a samsung make. Its also SD only. 8GB SDHC cards are available to be bought. They are a bit slower then normal SD cards and are cheaper too.
32GB cards will be coming soon in SD or SDHC i believe. I read it in news. Like its totally upto you to believe me or not, my information is very helpful to me but i still encounter problems and it seems not even sandisk can help me
Anyways so its a farse that Universal's SD card readers dont support SDHC. And you can file a lawsuit on SanDisk or Samsung for that. They just want you to spend more money into buying a SDHC card reader.... Truly its the ROM.

ok now i know u r full of shyt. u keep popsting that u have this card and it works but i have yet to see ne photos. u just like the attention u get from lieing through ur teeth. thats pretty sad

i dont know about the 8bg but my 4gb is working no probs,
doesnt matter if its empty, only used 900mb, or any amount in between empty or full, screen grab using SPB explorer of my current card status:

oh and to stop arguments there is no reason why nuclear couldnt download the demo of spb explorer then do a screen grab of his mem card section of memory just like i have in previous post!
so erm, as they say "get your cards out for the lads"

this is the card i got, dont know all the bull**** about this format that format, its slower etc, but this is quicker at loading tomtom sat nav up etc than my other card 1gb puremedia sd card, like i said 4gb, no problems http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SD_MOBYMEMORY_4096_001

daddy k said:
i dont know about the 8bg but my 4gb is working no probs, doesnt matter if its empty, only used 900mb, or any amount in between empty or full, screen grab using SPB explorer of my current card status
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Daddy k, what's your ROM version info? My 4GB card won't work at all in my Jasjar. I suspect a ROM upgrade will fix this, can you confirm it? Thanks! Cheers,

daddy k said:
this is the card i got, dont know all the bull**** about this format that format, its slower etc, but this is quicker at loading tomtom sat nav up etc than my other card 1gb puremedia sd card, like i said 4gb, no problems http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SD_MOBYMEMORY_4096_001
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Thanks, maybe not all 4GB SD cards work in the Universal. Some cards are only meant for cameras. sigh

gibhenry said:
Daddy k, what's your ROM version info? My 4GB card won't work at all in my Jasjar. I suspect a ROM upgrade will fix this, can you confirm it? Thanks! Cheers,
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its the newest qtek one on here, not a cooked one,
details as shown upon bootup:
R:1. 13.00
G:42 47 p8
D:1.90 96 wwe
hope that can be of some help to anyone

I have been using a MyFlash Turbo SD - 4 GB for quite some time. I use it for converted dvd movies, mp3, photos, programs, GPS maps. It is 90% full.
It works very well for me.
ROM: 1.30.77 WWE
Radio: 1.14.10

8GB SD cards work for some people and doesnt work for other people. The best i know it works in digital cameras.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/80943-8-gb-sd-card.html

nuclear said:
8GB SD cards work.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/80943-8-gb-sd-card.html
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I don't know that I come to the same conclusion after reading the thread in the link. It seems questionable at best since two of the posters specifically said it did not work for them.

SDHC compliant devices work with SDHC cards, SD devices do not.
You may be lucky to get one that you can read from, but an SD device will not write to it without screwing it up.
The Universal is SD not SDHC

AlanJC said:
SDHC compliant devices work with SDHC cards, SD devices do not.
You may be lucky to get one that you can read from, but an SD device will not write to it without screwing it up.
The Universal is SD not SDHC
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Yo thats a SD card not a SDHC lol. in the email you said SDHD...now you say SDHC... lol

this is total bull, i have came to two conclusions after reading all these post.
1 -now it seems like the only person that sells this specific card that nuclear has is fastmemoryman and he is advertising for him. IF that is the case then i tell u guys not to deal with this scammer cause i bought from him before and was sent a 2 gb card disguised as a 4.
2- Nuclear does indead have a 8 gb card from samsung and is able to put his dvd in it but because sd 2.0 IS backward compatible as i have read it from several sites you are able to use only 4 gb of the 8. so he is putting his dvd in the card but only one movie,
those are the only two possible conclusion there is . so if its not number 1 then its number 2

henvanvo said:
this is total bull, i have came to two conclusions after reading all these post.
1 -now it seems like the only person that sells this specific card that nuclear has is fastmemoryman and he is advertising for him. IF that is the case then i tell u guys not to deal with this scammer cause i bought from him before and was sent a 2 gb card disguised as a 4.
2- Nuclear does indead have a 8 gb card from samsung and is able to put his dvd in it but because sd 2.0 IS backward compatible as i have read it from several sites you are able to use only 4 gb of the 8. so he is putting his dvd in the card but only one movie,
those are the only two possible conclusion there is . so if its not number 1 then its number 2
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Yup i think its #2 .... goddamn crossbow screwed up my 8GB card!... Alan knows it. Dont call me a scammer alright... first i am helping you and then you call me a scammer.

Don't bring me into this, I only know what you keep telling me, and what you post here.
I have no way of verifying what you say, one minute things work, one minute they don't, one minute you are developing a crossbow rom, the next you have one from another device.
It might be the language barrier, but half the time it sounds like you tell different stories from one thread to the next.

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Don't bring me into this, I only know what you keep telling me, and what you post here.
I have no way of verifying what you say, one minute things work, one minute they don't, one minute you are developing a crossbow rom, the next you have one from another device.
It might be the language barrier, but half the time it sounds like you tell different stories from one thread to the next.
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Lets see now... i think its the language barrier. You didnt learn your english good enough eh. Howcome i understand whatever you post but you dont understand anything that i post. So far there is only one person i know that understands everything i post. I dont even think Akula would understand what i posted. lol Alan ... i will clarify it again to you. my 8gb card got busted! it doesnt work anymore. crossbow screwed it up. i made crossbow by getting it off another device rom and modifying it! see can I be more clear than that?

8GB card in Prophet?

Anybody tried the new 8GB SD card in Prophet? I am tempted of buying one, but there is no way for me to test it beforehand.

terramax said:
Anybody tried the new 8GB SD card in Prophet? I am tempted of buying one, but there is no way for me to test it beforehand.
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It's not possible to use a 8GB SD becuase it use the HC (hight capacity) standard. The prophet card reader support only "normal" sd cards and not HC ones.
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lightman3dd said:
It's not possible to use a 8GB SD becuase it use the HC (hight capacity) standard. The prophet card reader support only "normal" sd cards and not HC ones.
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Not really. For example Samsung 8 GB SD claims to be both SD 1.1 and SD 2.0 compatible.

terramax said:
Not really. For example Samsung 8 MB SD claims to be both SD 1.1 and SD 2.0 compatible.
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Never find an information like this...i've always read that 8 Gb sd and above is compliant only with Sd2.0 (SDHC).

lightman3dd said:
Never find an information like this...i've always read that 8 Gb sd and above is compliant only with Sd2.0 (SDHC).
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This is why I am asking if anybody have actually used 8GB card in prophet, and not theories on why it shouldn't work. Treo users apparently were able to use SDHC cards just by updating driver.

For what it's worth, I've read that some HC cards will work in older SD readers, but that no more than 4GB will be accessible. I've also read that a driver update might be able to solve the problem.
I'm sure many will be ready to try it when a solution surfaces. Do any of the HTC units read the HC cards?

FYI, I was in contact with the Microsoft WM dev group that wrote the SD card code. They had yet to start writing code to support SDHC... I believe that was back in June/July.
My guess is that they might get it in to support WM6 devices. But for us, I think it's a lost cause. Oh well, save your money and wait for the dust to settle.
SDHC is such a fubar'ed standard anyways. 32 GB max??? We'll hit that in 3 years. Then another new standard? Gawd, what a waste.

4gb SHDC microSD card does NOT work!

I just got a SanDisk 4gb SDHC microSD card, and I can confirm that it does NOT work in my TyTN. The TyTN does not "see" the card in Settings->Memory when the card is inserted.
Unless someone has a reg hack that will make this work, I can now confirm that the 4gb SHDC microSD cards do NOT work with the TyTN.

SkyyBoy said:
I just got a SanDisk 4gb SDHC microSD card, and I can confirm that it does NOT work in my TyTN. The TyTN does not "see" the card in Settings->Memory when the card is inserted.
Unless someone has a reg hack that will make this work, I can now confirm that the 4gb SHDC microSD cards do NOT work with the TyTN.
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Have you tried formatting it first with fat32?

It's been known for a long time that the 4GB SDHC cards wouldn't work...
You should be able to sell it on and get a 2GB with the cash you make though easily enough.
I tried one too and found the same thing.. wasn't my card so I didn't mess with it.. but it didn't look like it was ever gonna see it.

sambartle said:
It's been known for a long time that the 4GB SDHC cards wouldn't work...
You should be able to sell it on and get a 2GB with the cash you make though easily enough.
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It has NOT been known that it doesnt work, we actually needed someone to check with a SDHC........now all i can say is that it is most likely a limitation of WM, atleast that was the impression i got from the guys at HTC.
A bit more experimentation is needed.

mrvanx said:
It has NOT been known that it doesnt work, we actually needed someone to check with a SDHC........now all i can say is that it is most likely a limitation of WM, atleast that was the impression i got from the guys at HTC.
A bit more experimentation is needed.
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Yes, it has been known... the SDHC standard is different from the SD...
The SDHC is not compatible with SD unless the device is specifically designed for it... So legacy devices cannot read it...

ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.

neocsr said:
Yes, it has been known... the SDHC standard is different from the SD...
The SDHC is not compatible with SD unless the device is specifically designed for it... So legacy devices cannot read it...
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I got a 2 year old digital camera. 3 months ago, a new firmware came out for it to add SDHC support.
I doubt my camera was DESIGNED for it from the start.

mrvanx said:
ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.
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Oh, sorry I misunderstood your point... ur right... but it's for sure that the current devices, without any modification will not support SDHC...or is there any example on the contrary?

I noticed that a registry key does exist under HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/SDHC/
maybe someone can find a tweak to make the card work...

SkyyBoy said:
I noticed that a registry key does exist under HKLM/Drivers/BuiltIn/SDHC/
maybe someone can find a tweak to make the card work...
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It is also known that the SDHC in the reg does NOT stand for SD HC cards.

mrvanx said:
ffs......if you read through the threads in here you will notice that there is no ACTUAL proof that the Hermes doesnt support SDHC.........HTC have also stated that it is a limit in the OS and NOT the hardware.
We all know SDHC is different from standard SD, but that is not my point, the post i was replying to said we have known for ages.......which is not correct, we still dont know if a reg-hack will allow the memory limit to be lifted from WM5/6.
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I ACTUALLY tried it. (as stated in the post you replied too - though you may have clicked before I edited that in and posted after.. the timing is close.. if so sorry about that )

Hmmm wondering if this is solved in WM6..
Would be very usefull if I can have at least 4 GB.
- Arnie

arnoutboer said:
Hmmm wondering if this is solved in WM6..
Would be very usefull if I can have at least 4 GB.
- Arnie
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am using one now.. . .

I flashed WM 6 (vp3G's version 3.0) and my 4GB SDHC works just great.

Yeah, lots of the cooked WM6 ROMs include SDHC support. It was indeed only ever a coding issue that wasn't included in native OS. Well done the chefs.
Search the WM6 forum with the term sdhc and support and you'll be able to compile a list of cooked ROMs that do it. Most recent ones do though as far as I'm aware. Pre-cooked, that is - not sure about the DIY ROM kitchens.
If it helps, Black Satin is very recent indeed and has it. I heartily recommend Medium edition. (Was on LE but installed sev of the removed packs anyway). Also Faria's is a personal favourite of mine (SuperClean).

[Q] Want a STABLE ROM

I just want a stable rom, with everything working... anybody know of anything like this?

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I just want a stable rom, with everything working... anybody know of anything like this?
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the original DFT release is fine if your SD card is compatible (SD compatibility is the same for all releases.)
everything else on here is based of DFT with a few exceptions, largely around unlocking the device for you.

xboxmod is pretty stable, but as mentioned above, if your SD card isnt compatable, then you will have issues with most ROMs. there is a thread on compatable SD cards, although there is no official WP7 compatable memory card

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xboxmod is pretty stable, but as mentioned above, if your SD card isnt compatable, then you will have issues with most ROMs. there is a thread on compatable SD cards, although there is no official WP7 compatable memory card
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ignore anything in that thread about compatible cards, its all meaningless, get a class 2 or 4 card and keep your fingers crossed, as it stands, maunfactures do not produce cards for the public to a spec needed for WP7, its completely unknown.
you could have two identical cards with the same model number and one may not work, luck im affraid, is whats needed.

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there is a thread on compatable SD cards, although there is no official WP7 compatable memory card
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yes there is. Sandisk has official wp7 branded SD-cards, but they are expensive. Otherwise its all about luck. I'm on a sandisk class 2 16GB bought off ebay, and it works like a charm. Others might not be so lucky with the same type of card. So, if you really want to be sure it will work, get a wp7 branded card.
Sent from my HD2 with WP7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

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yes there is. Sandisk has official wp7 branded SD-cards, but they are expensive. Otherwise its all about luck. I'm on a sandisk class 2 16GB bought off ebay, and it works like a charm. Others might not be so lucky with the same type of card. So, if you really want to be sure it will work, get a wp7 branded card.
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ah yes the cards that no one can buy, unless you happen to be in an AT&T store
correct me if im wrong but i couldnt find a store selling them to the public, there is lots of FUD on the net about them but the actual products dont appear to be anywhre, i did only spend 5 min looking so perhaps they are about.
The question is, will OEMS make a brand of cards that will only have a very very minimal uptake in sales, after all, most WP7 devices have or are supposed to have, non removable cards.
Not saying its not going to happen, because obviously they can produce these cards the question is how big a market will there be for them and is it worth them selling them as a branded model.... anyhowe if you have a link for some place selling them other than at&t drop us a line

Strangely enough, my 16gb SanDisk Class 2 was slow as hell in my HD2 with 6.5, but seems to sing with WP7...
Weird...

argentocruz said:
Strangely enough, my 16gb SanDisk Class 2 was slow as hell in my HD2 with 6.5, but seems to sing with WP7...
Weird...
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apparently its because of random access speeds, a digital camera couldnt care less about random speeds, what it needs to sequential speeds, hence the class ratings they use, i dont know the details of it al but apparently one of the ways they can make it sequentially faster has an adverse effect on the random speed
theres several other factors involved as well, components used and how it was put together etc. thats partially why your safer with a class 2 or 4 card.

[Q] Android always breaks SD-ext partition: who's guilty

Hi,
since I installed Android on NAND (with the SD-ext trick, otherwise I wouldn't be able to install apps) I found that during the course of the days the phone will eventually get the SD-ext partition damaged until Android won't do anything (process com.android.core crashed) and needs a reformatting.
I have tried a few ICS/JB roms, including unofficial CM10 by TheDude, which resulted lasting more than others with old version 1.0.
My bootloader is cLK.
I want to ask if other users experience(d) the same behaviour with their Android builds on HD2 and what the developers community thinks is the guilty of SD-ext damaging.
Usually I get my SD fixed with fsck on Linux, but the last time it made me really angry. I installed Whatsapp, Viber and Skype. The three programs seemed to run fine, but in a single afternoon I discovered that not even the sole ext partition on the SD was gone, but the entire partition table blew up to hell!
I don't want to accuse TheDude's work because 1) other users don't seem to experience the same and 2) it also happens with other ROMs. Every chef here does a great job.
I also tried changing SD but didn't fix.
So, what's the community's opinion about this issue? Any ideas - based on experience - on what is causing it and how to fix?
So much thanks in advance.

I personally have never heard of an issue similar to this. When you say that you tried changing the SD, did you change to one of the same brand? Does the SanDisk 2GB class 2 which came with the phone (or, if you have a TMOUS, the 16GB) work with it? If you're using a cheap, unbranded SD then could you try a different one from a known brand like Kingston or SanDisk?

Nigeldg said:
I personally have never heard of an issue similar to this. When you say that you tried changing the SD, did you change to one of the same brand? Does the SanDisk 2GB class 2 which came with the phone (or, if you have a TMOUS, the 16GB) work with it? If you're using a cheap, unbranded SD then could you try a different one from a known brand like Kingston or SanDisk?
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Agreed, cheap sd card are usually the cause of this and using a cache, constant writing destroys them in no time, Sandisk all the way !

Nigeldg said:
Does the SanDisk 2GB class 2 which came with the phone (or, if you have a TMOUS, the 16GB) work with it?
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No SD came with the phone...

djechelon said:
No SD came with the phone...
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well whats the brand of the sdcard you have now

Kameirus said:
well whats the brand of the sdcard you have now
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It's a Kodak card

djechelon said:
It's a Kodak card
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my suggestion is buy a new sdcard a sandisk or a samsung