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Intuitive guide to Apps2SD?

I knew this time would come....
I've got too many apps on my phone and Im running low on space, and I've noticed my phone has been dragging lately.
I have an 8GB class 6 SD card, so hopefully speed shouldnt be an issue.
I have yet to use A2SD...
If I partition my drive, do I lose everything that's on there? Obviously that's not a problem as I can just move everything over to my computer then copy it back, but if I can leave the data on there and partition that'd be great.
Im having a hard time finding a step by step "from day one" guide.
Mind pointing me in the right direction? The only thing Ive found in the wiki is moving to a new SD card with A2SD.
Im currently running DC 2.07.2

BACK UP SDCARD
Boot into recovery. Partition SD card (default values)
Download http://www.darktremor.com/files/misc/a2sd-2.5-signed.zip
Flash above .zip as any normal ROM
Boot phone
Open command prompt and type:
adb shell
a2sd install
Tada.

Ok great, got that part down.
Now moving the already installed apps over to the SD card? What else do I do from here?
Thank you for the help!

Actually, looks like everything went ok...
ls -l /data reveals all the locations as /system/sd/app
I didn't bother to look at free internal space before installing, but my interanal free storage is now at 130MB. Sound right?
Last question i have for now....
Now that all my apps are on the SD card, if I were to flash a new ROM (say a new ROM Flipz comes out with) that has A2SD support... I dont' have to re-install them as both the apks, odex, and dalvik are all stored on the SD card right?

poor_red_neck said:
Actually, looks like everything went ok...
ls -l /data reveals all the locations as /system/sd/app
I didn't bother to look at free internal space before installing, but my interanal free storage is now at 130MB. Sound right?
Last question i have for now....
Now that all my apps are on the SD card, if I were to flash a new ROM (say a new ROM Flipz comes out with) that has A2SD support... I dont' have to re-install them as both the apks, odex, and dalvik are all stored on the SD card right?
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The only version that I'm aware of that moves Dalvik-cache to the sd card is Apps2SD version 2.5. I don't know if anyone has that in the ROMs yet. Many of them are either using an Apps2SD that was built for Fresh 2.0d, Apps2SD version 2.0, or the Apps2SD which is common in the 1.5 builds.
Your apps in /data/app and /data/app-private are on the sd card. You can flash Apps2SD version 2.5 (A2SD) from http://www.darktremor.com/files/misc/a2sd-2.5-signed.zip if you want to move the dalvik-cache.
EDIT: I really should read the instructions that was posted before I stick my foot in my mouth. The file is the one located at Darktremor, which is the version 2.5...so, yes...your dalvik-cache is on the sd card.

So I tried the above method, but all my apps stopped working and when I go to reinstall them, it says "Insufficient Space for App"...
What did I do wrong?
EDIT: Okay, nevermind, it seems to be working now. I tried installing the app again and it installed fine the second time. Trying another one now.

I did this recently and just found out that I cannot install/download apps from the market, it just gets stuck there. Does it know where its downloading too after a2sd is installed?

Low on Space

Under applications I there is a tab for Apps On SD..
Is there a tab for Apps on Phone?
I keep getting Low on Space error, and cannot remove it.
I've cleared browser cache and deleted SMS messages..
Moved almost every app I could to the SD card (except the system ones, which won't allow me too, and a few widgets which need to be on the phone apparently [winamp, clockr, battstatt]).
Not sure what else is eating the ROM..
Is there an uninstaller app that you recommend that tells me if an app is on external or internal?
I'm running Kangorama 1.1 if that matters.
Thanks

On Kangorama's first post, you should look into the apps2ext method. Nexus One doesn't have much built in space for apps, so it's going to happen pretty easily. I highly recommend apps2ext since i have several gameloft games that eat up my memory instantly.
If you aren't interested in apps2ext, in the cyanogen settings/apps there should be a auto move all to external. This is the default froyo apps to fat32.

Thanks for the tip..
I thought I had apps2ext setup..
It was set in my advanced installer file and I remember choosing an ext2 partition..
however when I run a2sd check in the terminal
it says it finds a partition but it isn't installed properly.. I might have an ext4 partition and this rom doesn't support it..
I tried re-installing and it says it's missing an install file..
Running fix_permissions now..
I'm going to try a2sd uninstall/install in a bit.

You must have an Ext3 partition, so in your recovery you have an option to ext2>ext3.
Then in terminal write this:
- su
- a2sd check
- a2sd cachesd
Then phone will reboot and voila

Apps2sd

I have a rooted phone and have Apps2sd but can only move some apps to the sd card,can someone explain why they all cannot move to the SD card?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Do you refer to stock froyo Apps2SD?
It can only be officially moved to sd if the apps built to do so.
However, u can force it using Titanium Backup or tools with similar features

I`m running the latest version of WildPuzzle rom, and have titanium backup but didn`t know it could be used to put apps to the sd card

with titnanium backup, menu->batch->move user apps to sd card. Then select which apps u want to move. Only use this method if not using widgets from the apps.
if you have ext partition, may want to try nice solution from Darktremor Apps2SD. Be sure to backup your rom before flashing it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925982

Hi many thanks for that.When you say only move apps that you are not using widgets from do you mean the ones that have shortcuts on the screen like messaging , dialler etc?
Sorry but i`m new to android and slowly getting my head around what you can do with it

It refers to applications such as: weather, clock ... if you hold down menu appears where you can choose the widgets, those applications should not be moved because the widgets do not work restart the phone, to be added again.

But you can try this "[ROM] [11.03] InsertCoin A2SD v0.2 Beta" (I use it and she looks like). He inclusively A2SD which uses the Linux ext2 partition, partition is not affected by the restart, widgets do not lose. Before installing this ROM you need to create ext2 partition on the sd card (512 mb enough), you can create the partition with: rom manager (market downoad) or Paragon Partition Manager if you use Windows OS. Format SD CARD WARNING LEADING TO LOSS OF DATA, CREATE A BACKUP BEFORE create partitions EXT2, FAT.

press the 1.2gb ext partition. Use that tool. I tried paragon, it is not working.
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While restarting windows - software to complete the ext2 partition, it reactivated undeder Connect to pc disk drive option, in order to complete ext2 paragon manager. So running at me.

[Q] app 2 sd

hello..
1. i'm noob...
2. i put Android to my HD2. ok...
Problems... Low Memory on my phone after a few instalations.
i make one partition ext3 on my SD.
My problem is that partition never seen by software...
When i try to put commands on the terminal, at "su" command i see the next message: "Permission denied"...
In the ROM MANAGER 4.3.2.3. when i try to partition SD card , when i try to install ClockwordMod Recovery , i choose the HD2 model and on my phone appear "An error ocurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
PLS HELP!!!! My sd card in a 16Gb, class 10.
Only i needed is space for a new programs on my phone...
I send you a beer if you can help me (special pentru cei din Bucuresti eventual...).

sorincristian said:
When i try to put commands on the terminal, at "su" command i see the next message: "Permission denied"...
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maybe you have used a rom without root permission. make sure that your rom supports app2sd. Secondly partition your sd card with the help of gparted livecd or you can use the AD recovery's build-in tools to partition your sd card. then flash a rom supporting app2sd. here cm7 recommded,the extra space will be recognized automatically. if you use miui rom, pls make sure that your partition format is ext3. after flashing miui, open terminal-1.su-2.a2sd reinstall-3.reboot automatically-4.open terminal again-5.su-6.a2sd zipalign-7.a2sd cachesd-8.reboot automatically-9.just install whatever you want.

elvis1988 said:
maybe you have used a rom without root permission. make sure that your rom supports app2sd. Secondly partition your sd card with the help of gparted livecd or you can use the AD recovery's build-in tools to partition your sd card. then flash a rom supporting app2sd. here cm7 recommded,the extra space will be recognized automatically. if you use miui rom, pls make sure that your partition format is ext3. after flashing miui, open terminal-1.su-2.a2sd reinstall-3.reboot automatically-4.open terminal again-5.su-6.a2sd zipalign-7.a2sd cachesd-8.reboot automatically-9.just install whatever you want.
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In QUICK INFORMATON INFO write:
sd card storage..... free 11 gb
A2SD storage 22 mb free
internal storage 40 mb free
system storage 18 mb free...
i don't understand something...
Yes.. it's a based MIUI ROM instaled
I can't use the terminal... i haven't permissions... read my first message...
"after flashing miui" - what do you recommand?

does it the miui rom you are using support app2sd ? and you haven't downloaded app2sd+ from market, if so id get a rom that supports app2sd, then id recommend downloading THIS to fully format your sd card, and would also recommend using THIS to partition your sd card Ext3/4 depending on rom...
sorincristian said:
In QUICK INFORMATON INFO write:
sd card storage..... free 11 gb
A2SD storage 22 mb free
internal storage 40 mb free
system storage 18 mb free...
i don't understand something...
Yes.. it's a based MIUI ROM instaled
I can't use the terminal... i haven't permissions... read my first message...
"after flashing miui" - what do you recommand?
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if your rom is app2sd....
you must not have it set up correct make sure you take 1gb (1024) out of your sd card to use for app2sd, take a look at my screen shot at how many apps i have to what internal i have left with typhoon build...
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sorincristian said:
A2SD storage 22 mb free
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This makes me believe that App2sd+ is working, how else is there only 22 mb free? What is the partition size you made?
Things you can do:
Clear Cache of apps
Clear the downloadfile-#.apk in /Cache/ (you need a root explorer to do this)
Backup apps, delete apps, restore apps.
Another thing to do is to start from scratch, reflash your rom, using a backup program to backup your apps. Completly clear caches, and wipe sd card.
DOING THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE AND LOSE ALL SETTINGS
Rommanager is only available for cLK, make sure you have cLK, or phone will boot-loop.

Eelkede said:
This makes me believe that App2sd+ is working, how else is there only 22 mb free? What is the partition size you made?
Things you can do:
Clear Cache of apps
Clear the downloadfile-#.apk in /Cache/ (you need a root explorer to do this)
Backup apps, delete apps, restore apps.
Another thing to do is to start from scratch, reflash your rom, using a backup program to backup your apps. Completly clear caches, and wipe sd card.
DOING THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE AND LOSE ALL SETTINGS
Rommanager is only available for cLK, make sure you have cLK, or phone will boot-loop.
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I think that i don't have luck..
i reinstall the my HD2 with this ROM: DFT_LEO_NAND_Android.rar
Another (new) problem... my Android working good... but i don't see my SD...
I seen that SD only at boot if i boot in "MASS STORAGE"
Do you know what i really understand?
I have enough hours loosed... i need my telephone working...

A2SD

I've finally installed a custom rom "B 0.8.4 based on stock HTC FroYo" which is excellent so far.
I'm repartitioned by SD card to use A2SD. I understand that I should move apps back from 'sd' to the phone, which is reality is now the SD ext partition.
I've got some apps that are phone only e.g google maps. I've used on stock rom, Titanium backup to force move to SD to free up space. Is it worth doing with A2SD ? These apps are still sat in internal phone memory as far as I can tell, is that correct ?
Do any apps report memory sizes correctly with A2SD installed ? Android system info doesn't show up the new EXT partition for example.

Search in market: "free space", download & install.

Freespace, thanks got it. It doesn't recognise the A2SD ext partition but its a neat app.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.krikun.freespace&hl=en
This app reports A2SD correctly.
https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDEsIm9yZy51Z3Vlc3MuYW5kcm9pZC5zeXNpbmZvIl0.