Hi,
please allow me to ask this stupid question
according to the spec, it supports GSM network, does it mean I can insert my normal phone SIM card to it and make phone call?
I don't really want to have a data plan and simply just use my normal SIM card (if it's possible), and then use WIFI when access is possible (at home or in the office).
I am very curious if I can make phone call with it, so I don't have to use my current phone anymore
thanks
It would help if you did a bit of research into the product you intend on purchasing, as any review will tell you, the galaxy tab IS a phone.
If you have an EU model, it will support and allow phone calls.
CANADA ones I think you can make calls, but not out of the box.
US models do NOT support phone calls (Skype may work?)
ASIA Models seem to come without marketplace.
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
adinis78 said:
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
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OK, I just called Rogers (a Canada carrier), it surprises me that the staff told me it cannot make phone calls. The GSM network only supports the data.
when you said flashing a different Rom can make phone calls, does it mean, the Canada or US model doesn't come with that software to make phone calls?
I haven't seen the device myself yet, is there a place I can insert a SIM card to it, and the device and recognize it? If yes, I am sure there is a way to use it.
It IS an do-it-all marvel
It is a one-unit that does-it-all (including voice calls) if you are anywhere but North America.
Here, the service providers are only offering units with the voice call capability locked out. Apparently want us to carry around two units, a tab and a phone like in the iWorld. Hum. Why? Could it be they want to get deeper in our pockets?
I have a regional service provider that that doesn't sell the Tab. But they promised me if I bought one from the UK (Clove Technology) and put their sim card from my old phone in it, they would give me both voice and data service. Very reasonable.
They don't "support" it but the local staff was so excited to get their hands on it and and play that they had me up and functioning in seconds.
I'm very pleased with it and don't see any reason why any provider that offers voice and data service on your current phone wouldn't be willing to let you pay them for the same service on an unlocked, fully functional Tab that you got from wherever.
Treemann said:
It is a one-unit that does-it-all (including voice calls) if you are anywhere but North America.
Here, the service providers are only offering units with the voice call capability locked out. Apparently want us to carry around two units, a tab and a phone like in the iWorld. Hum. Why? Could it be they want to get deeper in our pockets?
I have a regional service provider that that doesn't sell the Tab. But they promised me if I bought one from the UK (Clove Technology) and put their sim card from my old phone in it, they would give me both voice and data service. Very reasonable.
They don't "support" it but the local staff was so excited to get their hands on it and and play that they had me up and functioning in seconds.
I'm very pleased with it and don't see any reason why any provider that offers voice and data service on your current phone wouldn't be willing to let you pay them for the same service on an unlocked, fully functional Tab that you got from wherever.
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T-Mobile is filtering voice because they don't want it to be looked at as a big smart phone. They want it to be a real iPad competitor so they are doing everything they can to make people believe it isn't just a big smart phone but rather something new. Of course we know it is just a big smart phone and naturally we want to makes calls on it but T-Mobile isn't having any of that.
Same with the other carriers in the US.
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adinis78 said:
risp is partially right in regards to the USA models (T-mobile / AT&T) out of the box these 2 tabs are not able to make phone calls just use 3G, but if you flash a Euro Rom it will allow you to make phone calls, and you can get Edge (only using an AT&T or Simple Mobile Sim) on both AT&T and T-mobile tabs. Since you stated that you will use wifi either at home or office then you can choose either one of the two and just flash the Euro Rom and you will be set to make phone calls.
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I was hoping I could get the galaxy tab to run 3g and also provide voice on ATT. It sounds like either you can get 3g data only, or edge data and voice if you are using an euro rom. Is it possible to get 3g and voice on Att by using a euro rom and jumping through some hoops?
Hoping I can just retire the iphone and switch over to the galaxy tab.
Thanks,
John
jdogsupreme said:
I was hoping I could get the galaxy tab to run 3g and also provide voice on ATT. It sounds like either you can get 3g data only, or edge data and voice if you are using an euro rom. Is it possible to get 3g and voice on Att by using a euro rom and jumping through some hoops?
Hoping I can just retire the iphone and switch over to the galaxy tab.
Thanks,
John
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The AT&T TAB can do 3G and voice at the same time with the EURO firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847273
I found that thread by searching for the words AT&T and TAB. Stay away from the T-Mobile TAB if your service is through AT&T.
I apologize because I think I may have posted my questionin the wrong place two days ago. I'll see if I can delete it. I hope a few people here can answer me.
My question is that I already have a voice data account with tmobile and SIM card for that account in my Galaxy S Vibrant. Can I remove the SIM from the vibrant and place it in this particular International unlocked P1000 Galaxy TAB to use this P1000 as phone and data just by moving the SIM card? Or do I have to still notify tmobile that I am moving the SIM to this unlocked P10000 device? And will all features of this international version then work....the phone and 3G data with my SIM from the working Vibrant? If I can just move the SIM card is there anything else that I have to know or have to do?
All US carriers consider Samsung Galaxy Tab as a mobile broadband data device and make difficult to walk around this decision.
Since you are going to get a Tab not from T-mobile, it will not have your IMEI number recorded and might treat your Tab as a phone allowing for both voice and data. The issue might be only that you will not get 3G for data because software and hardware do not support unique 1700/2100 AWS frequency bands utilized by T-mobile in the US.
Do you have the phone dialer icon? If not you will need to flash a rom so you have a dial pad.
Thank you both for some answers.
The reason I was looking at this imported version was because I read that this Samsung tab already allowed telephone and since I already had a working 3G and telephone SIM from tmobile I thought this was the way to go. I really wanted this Samsung Tab to do telephone so that was the real reason even looking at this particular item.
No I have not ordered this yet. I wanted to ask the questions BEFORE I paid the money to find out that it will not work in my situation?
So what I am reading from both of you is
1. I probably will not get 3G, and
2. I would need a dialer Icon from somewhere.
Not getting 3G is a "do not purchase this" issue then for me.
Any ideas on the Samsung Tab then? I do NOT mind signing it up with tmobile, I just also wanted it to do bluetooth phone, 3G and then only need to carry this one device.
You guys are great
Thank You
The T-mobile tab can be unlocked. After it is unlocked you can flash it with a European rom and Roto's modem swithcher. You can then run 3G on any carriers sim card and switch to 2g (edge) and phone with T-Mobile using Roto's modem switcher.
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The T-mobile tab can be unlocked. After it is unlocked you can flash it with a European rom and Roto's modem switcher. You can then run 3G on any carriers sim card and switch to 2g (edge) and phone with T-Mobile using Roto's modem switcher.
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WoW. Thanks for that info.
Wonder if you do all this and will hear incoming calls if you are in 3G mode. (i guess this is what the Roto's switcher does, it places it in 2G or 3G). Then if you could/would hear it ring while in 3G, for an incoming call you would then have to switch to the 3G mode with this Roto switcher? Trying to get the call before voice mail kicks in? (what is it, an icon for an on-off type thing of its installed software).
Has anyone actually done any of this?
Yes its been done by many Tab owners. Search the galaxy tab developers section for how to flash roms, modems and kernals. You'll find a treasure trove of information on how to improve the Galaxy tab. The Developers here at XDA are an incredible group of people and most are willing to share their development findings with other Tab owners.
Good Luck.
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The T-mobile tab can be unlocked. After it is unlocked you can flash it with a European rom and Roto's modem swithcher. You can then run 3G on any carriers sim card and switch to 2g (edge) and phone with T-Mobile using Roto's modem switcher.
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Do I understand you correctly saying that T-mobile Tab after flashing can get 3G and voice phone on any carrier Sim?
This would be my "dream". So far I can only get either voice with phone Sim or 3G data without phone capability. BTW, the latter requires Sim with paid data service separate from smartphone. Roto's swither is just a utility flashing either phone modem or 3G data modem.
Would you mind to give more details supporting your post.
P.S. European Tabs have phone voice capability and a dialer out of box. Not extra flashing is needed.
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Do I understand you correctly saying that T-mobile Tab after flashing can get 3G and voice phone on any carrier Sim?
Roto's swither is just a utility flashing either phone modem or 3G data modem.
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Voice + EDGE data OR OR OR 3g data/ no voice NOT NOT NOT both!!
You cannot get 3G data and voice at the same time on the Galaxy Tab. With the modem switcher you can switch between 3G data only and 2G (edge) data and voice.
Until the development community can come up with a method to run 3G data and voice at the same time (if possible) the modem switcher is the best answer to the problem.
Also the the T-Mobile Tab can be unlocked so that any GSM carrier's sim card can be used. This allows you use the sim cards from Simplemobile or any other GSM carrier and not be locked into a T-Mobile sim card.
Anyone live here in MD and want to make some money setting me up doing this thread hack/install for me?
I am a T-Mobile customer and here is set up on my T-Mobile tab:
1.Tab running Roto's JME v4 (European firmware that will allow voice+edge)
2. Roto's Modem Switcher (switch between 3G only or Voice+Edge)
3. My old Vibrant SIM card (Voice+Data)
4. Broke IMEI so i could use my Vibrant SIM to go online and stop getting re-directed to t-mobile site.
So basically i use my tab as a phone now but only getting voice+edge, if i want faster speeds i switch over to 3G using the Modem Switcher. The only way you can get both voice+3g is if you unlock the tab and use AT&T sim, if you want to use T-Mobile sim that option is not available unless a modem comes out that allows both voice+3g.
Hope this helps in making your decision.
adinis78 said:
I am a T-Mobile customer and here is set up on my T-Mobile tab:
1.Tab running Roto's JME v4 (European firmware that will allow voice+edge)
2. Roto's Modem Switcher (switch between 3G only or Voice+Edge)
3. My old Vibrant SIM card (Voice+Data)
4. Broke IMEI so i could use my Vibrant SIM to go online and stop getting re-directed to t-mobile site.
So basically i use my tab as a phone now but only getting voice+edge, if i want faster speeds i switch over to 3G using the Modem Switcher. The only way you can get both voice+3g is if you unlock the tab and use AT&T sim, if you want to use T-Mobile sim that option is not available unless a modem comes out that allows both voice+3g.
Hope this helps in making your decision.
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Hello and thanks very much,
Seems that you are a match to my scenario. Are you happy with everything the way it works now (voice/2Gdata).
Do you have Caller ID working in any setting/switch?
And to make sure I understand this part. If I am in 3G mode I will NOT ever know of an incoming call by any pop up or beep or anything? The only way to know if some one even tried to call is to go to voice mail from 2G/voice being switched? (se, I am not a voice mail user. i have my Vibrant tmobile voice mail turned off at tmobile.)
So what i read at the top of this thread about having to unlock it is not the case for me?
Do I have to remove anything or add anything else?
Having to do anything at all other than these 4 things you listed for me is not needed?
That's very interesting. How do you "break" IMEI?
And these installs that you did list, is this the exact order to do these things?
And what about the thing where someone said I need a phone icon?
How do you switch to phone mode and dial?
BTW how is it as a phone with Bluetooth device? How is the volume (at both ends). Can you hear okay?
And I think one last question. If you happen to be in a wifi spot and using the tab in wifi mode, does the phone work at all?
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You cannot get 3G data and voice at the same time on the Galaxy Tab.
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No true. If you flash the at&t tab with Roto firmware, and install the bell modem, you can have 3g and voice with an at&t sim card, but again, at&t tab only does this.
Dear noreturn
If you so eager to get it and need help send me PM. I am almost your neighbor.
I would not recommend you breaking (meaning erasing file containing) Imei.
You have two other options
- get At&T tab, unlock it use on Tmobile with Vibrant sim. You will get voice and Edge which is very usable around dc-md-va. 3g will be only on att.
- get European Tab that is unlocked and use it on same way as #1 but no extra firmware flashing is needed.
Unlocking of either Att or Tmobile Tab is easy the same is true about flashing. however it takes more time.
Caller id works as on any phone.
Adapt0r said:
Dear noreturn
If you so eager to get it and need help send me PM. I am almost your neighbor.
I would not recommend you breaking (meaning erasing file containing) Imei.
You have two other options
- get At&T tab, unlock it use on Tmobile with Vibrant sim. You will get voice and Edge which is very usable around dc-md-va. 3g will be only on att.
- get European Tab that is unlocked and use it on same way as #1 but no extra firmware flashing is needed.
Unlocking of either Att or Tmobile Tab is easy the same is true about flashing. however it takes more time.
Caller id works as on any phone.
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Yes I really do want to get this samsung with voice.
So are you saying get this version of the Samsung tab and use my tmobile vibrant SIM?
Then install that modem switcher thing is all? And I guess I read about a dialer icon or something?
European Tab has everything for voice and Edge but Tmobile tab just cheaper.
Dialer comes installed with European, on Tmobile it appears after flashing.
Hope you understand your options. Modem switcher helps only if you have paid data service or erased your Imei. The last case is legally questionable thats why I would not advise it.
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No true. If you flash the at&t tab with Roto firmware, and install the bell modem, you can have 3g and voice with an at&t sim card, but again, at&t tab only does this.
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True. I should have clarified my response in that I was referring to the T-Mobile version.
I have the Hong Kong version,which has the same 3G frequence with At&t.
I use a At&T sim card and has 3G or H on phone and data works perfect.
For t mobile sim card you will only get edge for voice and data.
If you have any question you can email me.
Jimmy
Its kind of pricy,it cost me almost 700.00,but you don't have to change anything.
It depends on what carrier you use Tmobile 2G, AT&T 3G.
I love the device.you can hold it by one hand and use other hand to surf.
jimmy
Hi Friends,
I purchased a manufacturer refurbished samsung galaxy tab 4 8 inches unlocked version and I got it today, inserted my GSM lycamobile sim card, able to see network signals, able to access internet, but not able to make calls and receive as the Phone dial icon is missing and not available. Please help me how to get the phone dial icon and make calls from my tab.
Please help me on this.
Thanks and Regards,
Venkat