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Just a quick question for you guys. When I receive a phone call (full signal strength) and slide the slider accross to answer the phone there is a long pause of silence before the call actually connects. Has anyone else run into this situation?
Nexus One running stock Froyo (At&t)
yes I have this issue: I answer and cannot get an answer on the other end but I can hear them saying "hello". After a few seconds we connect and they say they never heard me say anything even though I was saying hello back.
I have two Nexus Ones: one answers calls perfectly and has great sound quality, while the other has this issue you describe, along with low call volume.
I think in my case it may be a hardware issue and I may need to send it in to be looked at. Both running on ATT although the good device is the tmobile version and the problem device is ATT 3G version.
Old MuckenMire said:
yes I have this issue: I answer and cannot get an answer on the other end but I can hear them saying "hello". After a few seconds we connect and they say they never heard me say anything even though I was saying hello back.
I have two Nexus Ones: one answers calls perfectly and has great sound quality, while the other has this issue you describe, along with low call volume.
I think in my case it may be a hardware issue and I may need to send it in to be looked at. Both running on ATT although the good device is the tmobile version and the problem device is ATT 3G version.
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You think it is a hardware issue? I thought that it was like that across all N1s?
There was a thread here 1-2 weeks ago about the issue and pretty much EVERYBODY had this problem.
I can't find the thread anymore but it was about the delay between answering a call and the mic becoming active ... which takes 2-5 seconds.
I just noticed the other day that the delay seems to be less if I immediately put the call on speaker.
Never encountered that issue. The other side hears me immediately as I answer. I guess this is not "across all N1s", unless someone would think my N1 is special in some way (which it isn't, and so are all the other 7 N1s of my friends at work which also happen not to have this problem - and the call quality is great on at least 3 that I checked personally).
Instantly connects on my phone as well, so it's not on all devices at least. I have one of the first batches of T-Mobile N1's btw.
What carrier are you on?
this happens to me too.its so annoying. im on att
Can't find the thread but it was pretty long.
nexusdue said:
You think it is a hardware issue? I thought that it was like that across all N1s?
There was a thread here 1-2 weeks ago about the issue and pretty much EVERYBODY had this problem.
I can't find the thread anymore but it was about the delay between answering a call and the mic becoming active ... which takes 2-5 seconds.
I just noticed the other day that the delay seems to be less if I immediately put the call on speaker.
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I'm not so sure anymore. I decided since my only choice was to send it in for repair, I might as well one click root and install CM6 and see what happens. So far, I have not had the issue. It's only been three days but that's the longest this device has ever gone without having the "no connect" issue. Also, my low call volume and speaker phone volume issues are now resolved. I now find myself turning the volume down rather than up. I'll update this thread with final verdict on whether this fixes my issue.
This sounds like an att problem not a nrsux one problem
I notice this problem as well. If I wait until the call timer appears on screen before I start to talk the other party doesn't seem to notice.
I'm on T MO and never had this issue. Try the one click root and flash a different ROM. If it doesn't work send it to HTC. I recently sent mine back on a Monday and it was back that Friday.
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Well my issue has been resolved by switching to CM6. It's been a week now and the issue has not occurred even one time. This was an issue that used to happen to me EVERY DAY, so I am very happy that in my case it turned out to be a software issue.
When I was running 2.1 I hoped 2.2 would fix it and when it didn't I thought for sure it must be hardware. It's so nice to KNOW I can answer the phone if it rings now. Sometimes I would get an important call and I was afraid to answer the damn phone!
Thank you Mr. Cyanogen, whoever you are.
I get this issue once in a while. I think its a software issue. Over time something gets hung up somewhere.
I had a thread like this as well..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691399
For me it still happens randomly, stock 2.1 rom, stock 2.2 rom, Enom's ROM, etc...
Although I have a theory that I haven't tried to prove/disprove yet.. It seems like several times when this has happened I was holding my finger over the second mic on the back, which is naturually where my finger seems to lay when I hold the phone. Anyone else considered this? I'm thinking maybe it's throwing off the microphone trying to do noise cancellation?
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I had a thread like this as well..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691399
For me it still happens randomly, stock 2.1 rom, stock 2.2 rom, Enom's ROM, etc...
Although I have a theory that I haven't tried to prove/disprove yet.. It seems like several times when this has happened I was holding my finger over the second mic on the back, which is naturually where my finger seems to lay when I hold the phone. Anyone else considered this? I'm thinking maybe it's throwing off the microphone trying to do noise cancellation?
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Definitely not the finger covering the mic. Just tried it with/without and same result.
There was another thread that was at least 3-4 pages of people complaining about it.
Sounds more like a network issue than a hardware issue, IMO
This issue has come up recently for me and it's really annoying. I'm not sure what triggered this problem...
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Any ideas on how to resolve?
I've got the Rogers/AT&T N1.
So before the gingerbread update i was experiencing the nexus one touch screen issue. This issue would happen mostly when the phone would be charging or warm, and the y coordinate of the touch screen would be off by about an inch. (I would post a link to youtube but i can't yet... new member =/ ) So if you try to answer your phone while the defect was active, you couldnt, because touching the slider would be recognized as trying to touch the 'menu' key on the phone.
Anyway, after gingerbread got pushed to my device, i have yet to experience this issue!! i havent been able to find anyone reporting this resolution. i'm extremely please about this because it was becoming a deal breaker after i missed an important call because i couldnt answer my phone due to the issue!!
anyone else experiencing this resolution!?
In my experiences it does still occur, although seemingly less frequently. It is a hardware problem though so probably won't disappear regardless of the OS
Hollow.Droid said:
In my experiences it does still occur, although seemingly less frequently. It is a hardware problem though so probably won't disappear regardless of the OS
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Yup. For some reason I have worse now than before. Maybe I'm just using it more now. Lately it's driving me nuts, to the point of actually looking at a replacement.
Memnoch30 said:
Yup. For some reason I have worse now than before. Maybe I'm just using it more now. Lately it's driving me nuts, to the point of actually looking at a replacement.
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this is where I was at before the push, i was seriously considering the incredible s, but for now it seems to have completely disappeared from my device...
I've also heard its a hardware issue (I do believe it to be true, not questioning that), so i found it extremely odd that its not happening now on my device.
Guess I'll just keep my mouth shut and enjoy
Observed no difference. The bug still appears every now and then. Doesn't bother me much because it usually occurs when the phone's charging. Not when I'm on the street using it. I heard that removing any kind of screen protectors can actually solve this problem.
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Observed no difference. The bug still appears every now and then. Doesn't bother me much because it usually occurs when the phone's charging. Not when I'm on the street using it. I heard that removing any kind of screen protectors can actually solve this problem.
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*gasp* not my invisible shield!?
Memnoch30 said:
Yup. For some reason I have worse now than before. Maybe I'm just using it more now. Lately it's driving me nuts, to the point of actually looking at a replacement.
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I had it terribly after the GB OTA, I wiped cache & dalvik and it all but went away. One occurrence in a week and a half, and I've been using the crap out of the phone.
Slightly off topic question: On stock Android, is wiping cache the same as wiping the dalvik cache? The stock recovery doesn't have the "wipe dalvik" option, only "wipe cache".
No it's not, but if you have root you can wipe it manually by removing the contents /data/dalvik-cache/
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No it's not, but if you have root you can wipe it manually by removing the contents /data/dalvik-cache/
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Thanks. But every time you flash an official update, the cache gets wiped and rebuilt though, right? That's why after each update it takes a long time to boot.
I still have the touchscreen issue. i think it will never be solved because it's an hardware issue, not a software one.
So the problem still appears, maybe a little less frequently.
I still have the prob but it's different with 2.3
Before 2.3, the touchscreen problem was unpredictable and could happen at almost anytime, whether charging or not. I replaced the handset but the problem persisted.
Since upgrading to GB, I've noticed a very clear pattern. If I'm charging my device and unplug it before it is fully charged, the touchscreen becomes extremely erratic to the point I must reboot the phone. If it's allowed to charge completely it's okay.
It never happens when it's is not charging.
Still annoying as hell but I've moved to Africa and having the device replaced is a real challenge. So I guess I'm stuck with until I replace it.
Still has issue
Stock, no modification at all. Today when I was rearranging icons in ADW Launcher, it seems that the screen registered click below where my finger actually was, same as the problem I saw previous to updating to 2.3.3. The phone was not hooked to a charger at the time.
Stock GRI40 here on my Nexus One...same issues that i've already had with Froyo. As it was posted before, it's a hardware issue; and the Nexus S is the new kid on Google's block, so i'm not expecting anything to improve our screens.
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I still have the touchscreen issue. i think it will never be solved because it's an hardware issue, not a software one.
So the problem still appears, maybe a little less frequently.
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Theoretically, there is a chance they could fix a software workaround for the hardware problem. If the error happens in only specific circumstances, and ALWAYS happens in those circumstances, then just teach the phone to know when those circumstances are happening, and tell it what to do in those cases. However, I doubt anyone at Google is working too hard on this problem. I agree, it seems to be much less frequent than it ever was. Seems likely that they may have added a little something to help us out.
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Seems likely that they may have added a little something to help us out.
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Or more likely, it could be unintentional.
So even with official OTA it's still here?
Remember me of the ''crazy'' screen problem we had before while charging,perhaps it's a hardware problem after all
This is a main reason why tomorrow i'm getting a new galaxy s.
I tried a lot of custom and stock roms, I sent my phone to HTC and they replaced hardware, but this issue still persist. And it cause me a lot of problems, especially while driving...
I also still get that glitch but not as frequently. I noticed that i didn't need to reboot the phone to fix it. All i need to do is tap the power button to shutoff the screen and then re-tap to turn it back on and it'll show the lock screen. Slide to unlock and the screen is precise once again.
The bug is still there for me also. However, I didn't seem to have it as bad as some did originally, and now I've noticed that it's happening even less frequently.
Hello everyone,
I've had my note 4 over two years now and out of nowhere problems started happening after second MM update, model SM-N910F was freezing and restarting and sometimes was not able to boot normally and got mmc read fail.
I'm reading a lot about this problem in other forums and here, so hope someone could help about this issue.
No Success:
I tried anything from removing sd card, removing sim card, changing the battery, resetting the device, cleaning the cache, flashing the room through odin, flashing the rom with pit file and doing a re partition (Didn't tried Nand erase).
Success:
The only way that I was able to fix the freeze issue was by installing app called Wake Lock and enabling PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK.
But using Wake Lock has its disadvantages. First of all you need to run the app all times which its not practical and second it wipes your battery because it keeps device and processor awake.
Please join this thread anyone who has similar issues with the aim to fix or bring the phone to an usable state again.
I also purchased my GN4 about 2 years ago and just recently got this error. This is really fishy. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung trying to screw over all the root users and get us to upgrade to newer models.
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I also purchased my GN4 about 2 years ago and just recently got this error. This is really fishy. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Samsung trying to screw over all the root users and get us to upgrade to newer models.
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Did you tried Wake Lock if it works? Which model of GN4 do you have ?
shpeendi said:
Did you tried Wake Lock if it works? Which model of GN4 do you have ?
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Yes, I'm on the Canadian SM-N910W8 model of GN4.
I've been using the Wake Lock app for a few days now and it works perfectly, if you can get the phone to boot into homescreen that is.
For instance, when the phone shuts off due to low battery or an inevitable crash, sometimes getting the phone to boot up is a real pain in the ass because it doesn't boot up correctly most of the time.
However, one odd fix I've discovered is to put your phone and battery in the fridge for about 2-3 minutes and let it cool down completely. And then magically your phone will boot up properly to homescreen again. Activate Wake Lock and you're pretty much good until the next time your phone shuts off and can't boot. My phone will NEVER boot up to homescreen if it is even slightly hot in temperature. In order to boot, it needs to be cool.
I am highly confident that this is indeed a hardware issue, instead of a software issue. The mainboard fails to read memory properly which probably indicates that the mainboard needs to be replaced. I however cannot afford to do this so I hope that I can last atleast 2-3 years of my GN4 surviving through Wake Lock. :crying:
The Sponge said:
Yes, I'm on the Canadian SM-N910W8 model of GN4.
I've been using the Wake Lock app for a few days now and it works perfectly, if you can get the phone to boot into homescreen that is.
For instance, when the phone shuts off due to low battery or an inevitable crash, sometimes getting the phone to boot up is a real pain in the ass because it doesn't boot up correctly most of the time.
However, one odd fix I've discovered is to put your phone and battery in the fridge for about 2-3 minutes and let it cool down completely. And then magically your phone will boot up properly to homescreen again. Activate Wake Lock and you're pretty much good until the next time your phone shuts off and can't boot. My phone will NEVER boot up to homescreen if it is even slightly hot in temperature. In order to boot, it needs to be cool.
I am highly confident that this is indeed a hardware issue, instead of a software issue. The mainboard fails to read memory properly which probably indicates that the mainboard needs to be replaced. I however cannot afford to do this so I hope that I can last atleast 2-3 years of my GN4 surviving through Wake Lock. :crying:
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I really don't think it's an hardware issue but even if so, why this started to happen immediately after the update and why it only happens when the device goes to sleep or when we power on the device.
I also noticed the change on bootloader fonts and interface after the update. I'm suspecting that the problem is there.
Does any one has any thoughts about this?
It's a hardware issue. It's a bad nand issue in fact. You can find Reddit posts a mile long about it.
Anyways it will slowly get worse over time. Had to replace the main-board in my SM-N910W myself.
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It's a hardware issue. It's a bad nand issue in fact. You can find Reddit posts a mile long about it.
Anyways it will slowly get worse over time. Had to replace the main-board in my SM-N910W myself.
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Is there any reason at all why it is happening I mean for the nand issue. I don't like the answer that is motherboard fault and we should replace it, which probably means replacing the phone. Is there anyone who can see deeper into the motherboard to find the issue. I also insist that this started to happen immediately after the second MM update.
I still have an IPhone 3G from 2008 and never changed anything on it. Isn't that ironic ?
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Is there any reason at all why it is happening I mean for the nand issue. I don't like the answer that is motherboard fault and we should replace it, which probably means replacing the phone. Is there anyone who can see deeper into the motherboard to find the issue. I also insist that this started to happen immediately after the second MM update.
I still have an IPhone 3G from 2008 and never changed anything on it. Isn't that ironic ?
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It was a Bad batch of nand chip that started to go bad after a year or two. Note 4s started to drop like flies before April.
I think your in the 1st stage of Loss and Grief. 1st stage is denial.
If thats so than Samsung should repair our phones under warranty and not tell us we have to pay for the repair coz we installed custom roms.
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Yes, I'm on the Canadian SM-N910W8 model of GN4.
I've been using the Wake Lock app for a few days now and it works perfectly, if you can get the phone to boot into homescreen that is.
For instance, when the phone shuts off due to low battery or an inevitable crash, sometimes getting the phone to boot up is a real pain in the ass because it doesn't boot up correctly most of the time.
However, one odd fix I've discovered is to put your phone and battery in the fridge for about 2-3 minutes and let it cool down completely. And then magically your phone will boot up properly to homescreen again. Activate Wake Lock and you're pretty much good until the next time your phone shuts off and can't boot. My phone will NEVER boot up to homescreen if it is even slightly hot in temperature. In order to boot, it needs to be cool.
I am highly confident that this is indeed a hardware issue, instead of a software issue. The mainboard fails to read memory properly which probably indicates that the mainboard needs to be replaced. I however cannot afford to do this so I hope that I can last atleast 2-3 years of my GN4 surviving through Wake Lock. :crying:
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same issue here, exactly as described above...
any way to push Samsung to admit bad batch and fix it for us with no charge?
golden_m said:
same issue here, exactly as described above...
any way to push Samsung to admit bad batch and fix it for us with no charge?
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I've already swaped a few main-boards. Ive even put a international exynos n910c main-board in a broken canadian snapdragon note 4 and its works perfect.
If anyone needs help just pm me.
ciscostud said:
I've already swaped a few main-boards. Ive even put a international exynos n910c main-board in a broken canadian snapdragon note 4 and its works perfect.
If anyone needs help just pm me.
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I would be more interested in understanding how come so many Note 4 devices started acting up around same time mark...
This is definitely a hardware problem with the motherboard. Mine started giving the same symptoms 2 weeks after the 6.01 upgrade. Wakelock made it stable but after Samsung replaced the motherboard it is so much faster and no issues at all. I wonder if this is a faulty NAND issue whether the 6.01 upgrade and the way it manages memory could have triggered it. Certainly strange but it need Samsung to fix it.
I am also having same problem.
I was using custom rom and it was working fine without any lag or freeze suddenly one day my Note fall from bed to ground and since then it is not working properly i thought its the ROM so i reverted back to stock MM rom flashed via odin.
Reset everything erased everything but the problem remains same.
At present i am on stock with hardly any apps just FB and whatsapp.
But my device is so slow and keep lagging and sometimes it becomes very hot and restart itself.
I dont know what to do now. i m on 910 G snapdragon.
anasrizvi said:
I am also having same problem.
I was using custom rom and it was working fine without any lag or freeze suddenly one day my Note fall from bed to ground and since then it is not working properly i thought its the ROM so i reverted back to stock MM rom flashed via odin.
Reset everything erased everything but the problem remains same.
At present i am on stock with hardly any apps just FB and whatsapp.
But my device is so slow and keep lagging and sometimes it becomes very hot and restart itself.
I dont know what to do now. i m on 910 G snapdragon.
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Sorry to hear that, as for now jut install wake lock and enable partial_wake_lock so you can use your device until it fails completely
Mmm. I was thinking to root my phone (4month old still under warranty ) i think i changed my mind after reading this ?. Thank you guy's for the warning
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Same issues, I downloaded the wake lock and so far so good.
I have the same issue also guys and it started a week after updating to Marshmallow.
Phone worked perfectly fine for 2 years prior to this. So I highly doubt its a hardware issue and more likely a software/firmware problem.
Phone seems to have issues whenever the screen is asleep (hence why the wake lock app seems to help with this problem although not a proper solution)
I'm hoping Samsumg can release a patch fix for this as I truly love my Note 4 and would like to keep it for some time yet.
have anybody tried going back to Lollipop?
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have anybody tried going back to Lollipop?
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I was thinking about that! but I saw on other threads people downgrading with no success.
This happens only when I install any custom rom...the phone works fine with x720 5.8.018s version...anything apart from that device will shut down every 2-3 minutes ...very strange behaviour ...any one has any idea ?
any custom rom , android 6 or 7 , AOSP or stock based, it will boot fine and after initial setup , it will work for 3-4 minutes and then suddenly device shuts down. .. when i boot it up again , same thing happens, in one minute shuts down.
if i flash 5.8.018s stock rom , everything works fine....and it doesnt shut down...
After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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After device bugs, my phone finally was restored into x720 stock ROM (i have x720). On boot it worked below 1 minute and reboots. I had to do clean data. Also booting x720 ROM into x727 is not too good idea. Maybe you should try to do more wipes?
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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I did all the wipes i could , cleaned all kinds of data... it was US version 5.8.018s originally and i tried to flash Omni ROm first , and other ROMS , all had same issues, so i thought going back to the stock US rom , but since US version of 018s is not available anywhere, i went to chinese version , and it works perfectly , no reboot/shutdown...... I have used number of phones and installed 100s of ROMS , i have never faced soemthing like this...i hve even used leeco pro 3 before, with all custom roms and no problems.
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Ok update...i downloaded x720 021S and 023S and updated using in build update option..(local update) , and it worked, 23S is working without any shut down...so i guess, it is problem only with roms flashed thru TWRP
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
Thanks!
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Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
That all happens with several ROMs - currently I'm on ResurrectionRemix 5.8.5. This is the most stable custom rom I have tested, but anyways the phone switches off in irregular periods. Sometimes the phone is about a day alive, sometimes only a few hours, sometimes below an hour. When I'm playing HQ games I think the phones switches off much faster, but not sure.
I'm also not sure - I do not have used the stock rom really long after I get this phone (was CN 5.8.018s I think) - but my feeling is, that the phone was definetely more stable with the stock rom.
Now after finding this thread, I will give the stock rom another try. Would you be so kind as to describe the process of going to the stock 023S a bit more in detail? First flashing the 5.9.021S for the x720 ROM throught TWRP and after that using the build in update option (rename file to update.zip into root folder)?
Thanks!
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On my equipment too !!
Andresdsr said:
On my equipment too !!
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You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
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You do not flash a 21s update twrp that may brick you.
You have to go stock and flash with stock recovery.
Their threads already on this.
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium
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it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
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it was the same with the ROM that came from the factory.
I experienced 21s and 23s beta Tars, 23s original Chinese...
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Does anyone completely solved the shutting down issue on x720? I remember the same issue with the stock rom when i was getting the phone (5.8.018). but this rom could have been a shop rom, cant remember.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
For me it seems that the issue happens more often whenever the phone uses more performance. Playing HQ games let the phone shut down after about 1-3min. doing nothing on the phone, it remains for about a day. Weird behaviour... will try to flash the stock recovery via fastboot and then a stock rom (no shop rom). hopefully it will improve the behaviour or even better solving the issue.
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I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Sounds like a hardware issue. As for me, I have a couple of screen issues--I usually have my LeEco Pro3 Elite connected to a charger, and I sometimes don't use it for long stretches of time (say, 8 hours) because I have another phone as well. Once in a while, during those times the screen refuses to turn on. Sometimes the fingerprint scanner wakes it up, other times I have to straight up reboot the phone using the power button (I have to keep it pressed for two whole minutes for it to wake up the phone). Pretty annoying, dunno why it's happening. Could be a loose screen cable.
Now, if your phone is shutting down every few minutes no matter what, it could be a battery issue. I say this because I had a similar issue with an old iPod Color from 2005. The iPod would shut off every few minutes even when plugged into a charger. I changed the battery and it stopped shutting down.
Hopefully it's not a motherboard issue because replacing a phone's motherboard is never easy.
I don't think gameplay should affect the phone negatively at all. Especially a phone with a Snapdragon 821, a 14nm processor with efficient cores, for crying out loud. I play Fate Grand Order, a pretty intense 2D online game with 1080p graphics for 5 hours straight on my LeEco Pro3 Elite (Snapdragon 820) without it heating up at all.
Again, seems like a hardware issue because no phone with a Snapdragon 821 or 820 should be doing that. Especially while gaming.
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Thanks for the information.
Could be possible... If I'm shaking the phone like a cocktail-mixer, it feels something loose inside it and this could be the battery of course which could be not fixed correctly. But I am sure, that this issue has also something to do what is happening on the phone currently. Sometimes I am going to bed and the phone does not move for 8hrs, it simply lays on the table. In the morning, it is shutted down. Need to hold the power button for about 10sec to restart the phone (usually hold 2sec to power on). Sometimes (not really often) it warm-starts automatically.
I think this could be also a memory issue or internal storage. Yesterday I was playing a game (Bowling by Jason Belmonte) and after 3min, the phone hung up, display remains on, no reaction on pressing the hardware buttons, waiting 5min... nothing happens. So I pressed the power button 10sec, phone seems to reboot normally, but it take a bit more time in my oppinion. Now after entering the pin, some phone configurations were resetted to default, but not all. Playing this came, it sometimes happened, that the phone switches off (with one vibration). Rebooting with a 10sec press and it runs again normally. This time phone hung up and some configurations were resetted to default. WTF?
Today I have played Hmmsim 2. Phone hung up again, pressing the power button 10sec, phone begins to reboot, but rebooting never finished (waiting for about 1-2hrs). Long Press power button (10sec) to try to reboot again - same behaviour, never ending ROM loading screen. Wiped to factory via TWRP and the phone reboots again, but all configurations lost, like freshly installed rom. OK, whatever, using the google backup for apps and so on... when installing the apps in the background, the phone reboots about 3-4 times, app installations not finished. Cancelled and shutting the phone down to TWRP, where I am now...
What I will try to say is, that whenever the storage or memory is used to much or something like that, the phone begins with that behaviour.
And now I am thining about what to try next. I think I will try to flash the stock recovery via TOOL ALL IN ONE then flashing a stock rom like 5.9.023S.
I am still not sure of a hardware issue...
peed_neslo said:
I am still not sure of a hardware issue...
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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The easiest way to tell is if the issues were occurring before you flashed TWRP. Were they? This is why you always wait a couple of months before modding your device. Otherwise you'll be stuck in a loop of doubts. By this I mean you'll be convinced that the issue has to do with your custom ROM or kernel rather than your device's hardware, but you have no way of knowing for sure because you never used the phone enough on stock firmware.
I was like you... my unmodified Zenfone 3 had a screen flicker issue and a headphone jack issue that I was convinced was a Nougat problem. I upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat immediately after getting the phone. After a lot of research and posting threads on the Zenfone forums, I realized I had a hardware issue on my hands. The screen had to be replaced for the flickering to stop, and the headphone jack had been gimped to 0.3v by ASUS for some reason. I quickly sold the phone and got my LeEco.
Here's a thread I made on XDA about my screen flickering issue. It's a hardware issue: https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-3/help/ze552kl-screen-flickering-lowest-t3660643
I've learned some important things from that experience: it's easy for your brain to trick you into thinking you've got an easy-to-solve software issue on your hands, when in reality you've got a hardware issue. You need to start making arrangements for a replacement device and get video evidence of your problems to show to the seller ASAP. Because that behaviour isn't normal. Now I hope you do have a software issue on your hands that the stock firmware will solve, but who knows. Be prepared for anything.
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Thank you very much!
I am sure that the phone was doing the same on stock rom, but maybe fewer times. I have flashed a stock based rom now (Turbos mini 5.9.023s) and the issue still exists, but now the phone reboots normally more often than going into edl mode (emergency mode). I have found an old thread here on XDA and the issues described there sounds nearly the same. Finally the user in this thread also had hardware issue.
I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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I believe also in a hardware issue, but I am still not sure. If I am looking to other threads regarding similar problems, there is always some regularity in the behaviour or the reported issues. In my case these rebootings (usual reboot or reboot to EDL mode) are definetely very unregular. On the TURBO Rom, these reboots happen definetely more often when the display is off and the phone sleeps. On the TURBO Rom, playing games seems to be helping lasting the phone a bit longer, the completely differnce to ResurrectionRemix Rom, where the phone was lasting longer when doing preferabely nothing. The issues are so inconsistant and this is making it hard to believe, that this is a hardware issue. Why the hell is the phone behaving different on every ROM - if it's a hardware issue, the occurred problems should have some regularity.
As I didn't have an OTA update option on the stock rom, I'd found out that this could be a "shop rom" (5.8.018), which is not the best choice nor for the first month(s).
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
I'm from Germany and I do not really want to return the phone to china or east asia for repairing (bought at banggood). This could take a very very long time. Changing to a new one could be also difficult because there are hardly any more devices out on the market and I need to return it for the change too.
But I am slowly at my wit's end and before these issues are making me more and more crazy, I will accept a problem with the hardware.
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Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Admittedly I'm not sure at all if this issue was already present after starting the phone for the first time. One of the first things I have done during the initial setup wizard was using the integrated data transfer app by LeEco (scanning a QR code with the old Xperia Z, downloading app to transfer data to the x720). This app establishes a Wifi direct connection between both phones to transfer the data like apps and other stuff. This transfer process takes at least 6-7 hours and during that process I am sure that the phone was not rebooting a single time. Maybe a specific app or background process of an app causes this irregular rebootings. I have not testet this. I have installed the most common of my apps also using different custom ROMs later.
On the current ROM (Turbos mini 5.19.023s) I have now looked into the last_kmsg.log file severel times after the phone was hard-rebooting (not to emergency mode - the phone is switching down to emergence mode really rarely since I have flashed the stock based ROM) to debug for a kernel problem and the power off reason seems to be ""Triggered from PS_HOLD (PS_HOLD/MSM controlled shutdown)". In the log file I could also find some "kernel panic" entries. So I have a little gleam of hope that the issue is not a hardware problem. I have to test a bit more with the stock recovery/ROMto gain a better knowledge of the issue. I think I will post this into the ROM topic to ask a developer.
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If your issues were occurring from the moment you got the phone, you know it's a hardware problem. Your seller sent you a defective phone and you should at least try fighting for a partial refund. If you paid through PayPal, open a dispute. If you paid with a credit card, ask for a chargeback. Now, the shop you bought it from might ban you for initiating a chargeback, but it's probably worth it. Or you could just cut your losses and move on. Maybe donate your phone to a dev who wants to try something crazy. :good:
Oh snap, it's a Banggood phone? I bought my x722 from Banggood. No glaring issues other than the screen one so far, but this does worry me for the future. How long have you had it?
This is the problem with Chinaphones. They're cheap, they've got good specs, but you can't guarantee quality. Especially with now close-to-defunct brands like LeEco. If you're still okay with Chinaphones, get a Xiaomi next. Probably the most reliable Chinaphone brand out there, next to Huawei. And try to buy from an official source. I heard The Solution Shop in Europe sells Xiaomi phones for cheap (?). And always remember to record your unboxings and document all issues from now on.
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Finally - I got it working without any problems now!
Happily it seems to be not a hardware issue. I have flashed the Grossoshop ROM and Recovery via a provided .bat file. This .bat file has flashed the recovery first via fastboot, then the ROM via fastboot. This Grossoshop ROM was based on 5.8.018s I think. Then I have updated TWRP Recovery to the latest version via TWRP itself (flashed the new image). Then I have flashed Mauro's 2.2 (which is based on 5.9.023s) and it is running great! Super performance, no extrem battery drain, no reboots, all is working (except the chinese design downloads as I cannot create a Leeco account from Germany). But now I'm satisfied. :good::laugh:
peed_neslo said:
Usefull information, thank you very much.
Nearly the same problem here: My X720 is only rebooting sometimes, but more often switching off directly (vibrates one time and switches off). While the phone is in that status, the battery is discharging. I can only reboot the phone by holding the power button for about 10sec or to TWRP. Two times I was rebooting the phone and some (not all) settings were restored to default - reflashed the rom... Another time rebooting the phone it hangs in the booting display, did not get it booted completely again - reflashed the rom.... Very strange behaviour and don't know why this happens.
But for about the last month, the phone is only switching off and I can reboot and use it for an unspecific time.
Thanks!
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My x720 has done the same to me a couple of times now, Vibrates once and turns off and I have to hold the power button for a few seconds longer to turn it back on again which is odd.
The battery was charged over 50% % 70% at the times it happened and I wasn't even using the phone, It was just sat on the table in front of me.
I didn't have any problems at all until a few days ago when it first shut down.
I'm using Oreo - AICP 13.1 from here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/development/rom-aicp-13-0-pro3-aka-zl1-x727-x720-t3698058
The problem now is I don't know where to start troubleshooting When I get time I am planning on a clean wipe and fresh install of AICP again to see if that solves the problem
When using this ROM does your phone heat up a lot.
Sent from my LEX727 using xda premium
Did you manage to fix the problem somehow?
My Moto G4 suddenly restarts at any time if I am using the phone, most of the time it happens when I receive a call.
I have tried various ROMS, even stock firmware, still facing the same issue.
I have the XT1643.
Anyone else facing such an issue?
[email protected] said:
My Moto G4 suddenly restarts at any time if I am using the phone, most of the time it happens when I receive a call.
I have tried various ROMS, even stock firmware, still facing the same issue.
I have the XT1643.
Anyone else facing such an issue?
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Which baseband do you have? Do you tried without 3rd party apps on stock rom too?
strongst said:
Which baseband do you have? Do you tried without 3rd party apps on stock rom too?
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I have the 'M8952_70030.25.03.62R' baseband.
I have tried without any third party apps installed, facing the same issue.
If in case it was a baseband issue, I would be interested in flashing the latest baseband.
Would you be kind enough to point me the right direction?
[email protected] said:
My Moto G4 suddenly restarts at any time if I am using the phone, most of the time it happens when I receive a call.
I have tried various ROMS, even stock firmware, still facing the same issue.
I have the XT1643.
Anyone else facing such an issue?
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Same here.
I tried every rom. The problem still presists.
The problem is noticeable when battery is below 70 and while receiving calls.
Device XT1643
[email protected] said:
I have the 'M8952_70030.25.03.62R' baseband.
I have tried without any third party apps installed, facing the same issue.
If in case it was a baseband issue, I would be interested in flashing the latest baseband.
Would you be kind enough to point me the right direction?
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You do have latest baseband version.
This issue happens when phone gets heats up and battery stops responding (power cut) to lower the heat radiated.
If im right according to your telling ill suggest you to take the phone to service centre. It is more a hardware problem then the roms itself.
How do i know?
Simple, experience.
My friends g4 plus suffers from same issue(not on calls but heat issue) and service centre guy told us this reason.
Well i may be wrong as information is incomplete.
Fill in this :
Battery temperature.
Background activities.
Mostly with calls and other than that (if happened).
You told all/most roms, may you name some with build date and what/how issue existed in all of then.
Also battery supply voltage(use my device app).
Try the same issue like this :
Plug in your phone charge it and play heavy games.
If device reboots you got your solution, if not then recreate the scenario and tell us exactly what happened.
Saksham Thapaliya said:
Same here.
I tried every rom. The problem still presists.
The problem is noticeable when battery is below 70 and while receiving calls.
Device XT1643
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DgnrtnX said:
You do have latest baseband version.
This issue happens when phone gets heats up and battery stops responding (power cut) to lower the heat radiated.
If im right according to your telling ill suggest you to take the phone to service centre. It is more a hardware problem then the roms itself.
How do i know?
Simple, experience.
My friends g4 plus suffers from same issue(not on calls but heat issue) and service centre guy told us this reason.
Well i may be wrong as information is incomplete.
Fill in this :
Battery temperature.
Background activities.
Mostly with calls and other than that (if happened).
You told all/most roms, may you name some with build date and what/how issue existed in all of then.
Also battery supply voltage(use my device app).
Try the same issue like this :
Plug in your phone charge it and play heavy games.
If device reboots you got your solution, if not then recreate the scenario and tell us exactly what happened.
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Thank you for the suggestion, I guess I will take it to the service centre, seems more of a hardware issue.
Anyways, my phone is still in the warranty period, but I have flashed it.
Will they service it for free if I flash stock firmware and relock the bootloader?
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Thank you for the suggestion, I guess I will take it to the service centre, seems more of a hardware issue.
Anyways, my phone is still in the warranty period, but I have flashed it.
Will they service it for free if I flash stock firmware and relock the bootloader?
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No,
Once you unlock your bootloader the warranty is compromised.
Saksham Thapaliya said:
No,
Once you unlock your bootloader the warranty is compromised.
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Well, will they still service my phone if I pay them?
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Well, will they still service my phone if I pay them?
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Yes, they will take your phone and money from your pocket and will repair it.
If you can now, try to flash the stock rom with build no. NPJS25.93-14-8.
I also had similar issue(it shut down on receiving notifications) with build no. NPJS25.93-14-4 (even on custom roms I flashed over it) which got fixed in the NPJS25.93-14-8 update.
Now again the issue reappeared on NPJS25.93-14-10 version.
Hence I flashed the complete NPJS25.93-14-8 using fastboot and now it's working fine(both on stock and custom roms). Maybe it had something to do with modem version or bootloader(unlikely).
Tell me if it worked.
saranshkmr.in said:
If you can now, try to flash the stock rom with build no. NPJS25.93-14-8.
I also had similar issue(it shut down on receiving notifications) with build no. NPJS25.93-14-4 (even on custom roms I flashed over it) which got fixed in the NPJS25.93-14-8 update.
Now again the issue reappeared on NPJS25.93-14-10 version.
Hence I flashed the complete NPJS25.93-14-8 using fastboot and now it's working fine(both on stock and custom roms). Maybe it had something to do with modem version or bootloader(unlikely).
Tell me if it worked.
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My phone shuts down while playing something through speakers( like while playing music, ringtones etc.).
It doesn't powet on itself but i have to turn on the device by myself. Is it a hardware issue?
Also my camera flash isn't working fine. While capturing only yellow led blinks. But while using torch both the led's are workung fine. What the crap this device is??
ADITYA_KUMAR said:
My phone shuts down while playing something through speakers( like while playing music, ringtones etc.).
It doesn't powet on itself but i have to turn on the device by myself. Is it a hardware issue?
Also my camera flash isn't working fine. While capturing only yellow led blinks. But while using torch both the led's are workung fine. What the crap this device is
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If you haven't tried clean flash, do that. Flash the NPJS25.93-14-8 version.
Else it highly seems a Hardware issue.
And yes, this device is a crap. Heating issue, lag when recording video, random shutdowns, etc. But development work for this device is great.
I also have my earphone jack not working which apparently required to change the whole motherboard to fix as claimed by service center guy. And unlocked bootloader void my warranty so it's been this way for long time.
I had the same problem and I did everything. change rom, from kernel I did everything possible with software based speech and searching in forums I found that it is a battery failure, check if you still have the warranty. otherwise you need to buy a new battery only this way the problem is solved
I hope you solve your problem
I just solved it today and it goes great, greetings:good:
saranshkmr.in said:
If you haven't tried clean flash, do that. Flash the NPJS25.93-14-8 version.
Else it highly seems a Hardware issue.
And yes, this device is a crap. Heating issue, lag when recording video, random shutdowns, etc. But development work for this device is great.
I also have my earphone jack not working which apparently required to change the whole motherboard to fix as claimed by service center guy. And unlocked bootloader void my warranty so it's been this way for long time.
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When i was on 14-8v , i started having these problems. Therefore i flashed lineage os 14.1. but problems are still.
While playing music it's not necessary that my device is going to be turned off, but sometimes it suddenly turns off by itself.
And my both leds are working fine while using torch, but at the time of capturing shots the white led does not blink, only yellow led blink. If anyone knows plzz let me know the solution.
Same here
I am using latest Android update provided by Moto. No root and nothing else..