[Q] Fire + Android + External Keyboard - Kindle Fire General

I just purchased a Kindle Fire and would like it to use it for note taking in class. From what I've read, there doesn't seem to be a way to use a standard external keyboard via micro-USB adapter on stock Fire software.
But what if a complete port of Android was installed on the Fire? Would it then work? If so, which version/process would I need to do to make this possible?
This thread hints at activating bluetooth on the mobo of the Fire to connect to devices in that manner. Has this been successfully done yet?
TIA!

nope - turned out that the chip is'nt capable

b63 said:
nope - turned out that the chip is'nt capable
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Darn, ok so BT is out of the question, but what about via USB using a full Android build?

They are working on usb host over in the android development section of the kindle forums... check it out!

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[Q] What exactly works from the USB port on the Iconia Tab?

I'm looking to get a tablet to introduce BackTrack 5 to. I don't believe this tablet has a wifi chip capable of injection, so I wanted to connect a USB wifi adapter to it (this one right here). I read in the update it's able to register the usb port for usb devices, but which exactly work without me having to create a driver? And, I'm sure there are linux drivers for said USB adapter, I assume I could take that and (easily) create one?
From what I've read so far, the USB port handles things like hard drives, keyboards and flash card readers (and not necessarily all of them).
A Wi-Fi adapter may function under Linux but you would probably have to be rooted on the device to install drivers since they are not natively included in the system build that I know of.
Backtrack 5 works fine on the A500. I'm running it right now. I've had no issues with it.
i posted a thread in the accessories section on compatible usb devices
runeblade said:
Backtrack 5 works fine on the A500. I'm running it right now. I've had no issues with it.
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Do you have any success with it or just running it
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I am thinking about putting Backtrack on my Iconia A500. Following up on a previous question by NickkxNekro, would one be able to plug the Alfa wifi device into A500 and make use of it?
im assuming yes since you can use 3g usb dongles

[Q] Gamepads and Controllers

Does anyone know if there is any type of compatability with controllers of any sort or any gamepads with the mini-usb port on the Kindle Fire? I know this is mainly meant for syncing with a pc, but wondering if this is at all possible or not. Am aware that bluetooth is not available at this time, hoping for an update to bluetooth in the future without actually disassembling the Fire, but oh well. I'm wanting to use some type of keyboard or controller/gamepad so that I can play Onlive, and also perhaps for a few emulators that I have also.
jtb224 said:
Does anyone know if there is any type of compatability with controllers of any sort or any gamepads with the mini-usb port on the Kindle Fire? I know this is mainly meant for syncing with a pc, but wondering if this is at all possible or not. Am aware that bluetooth is not available at this time, hoping for an update to bluetooth in the future without actually disassembling the Fire, but oh well. I'm wanting to use some type of keyboard or controller/gamepad so that I can play Onlive, and also perhaps for a few emulators that I have also.
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I would be suprised if it had the usb drivers necessary to do this.
What do you mean by BT. Have they confirmed that BT is in the fire?
The Kindle Fire does have bluetooth capability in it, so far as I am aware. But, the original KF kernel does not support it, and Amazon hasn't made any announcements as to the support of it in the future. And you mentioned something about the drivers, is there a way to push a usb driver update through the Fire through ADB, as mine is rooted still? I read through another thread earlier about disassemblying and reverse engineering the bluetooth capabilities, I'm just simply trying to figure out if possible to use the mini usb cable to hook up to a simple gamepad. Though the usb driver does throw a wrench in the process.

Android on USB stick for TV

Hello,
My question is, I see everywhere on the internet USB sticks with Android on it for the TV. All the USB sticks having proccesors etc. Now is it my question is it possible to run Android on a normal USB stick or is this not possible. So I have a standard USB stick without RAM memory etc and no proccesors, and I want to know if it works to put a Android version on it and run it on a TV..
Can someone answer my question or knows a sollution or is this not possible??
Simple answer, no it is not possible.
Those Android "sticks" have an HDMI port. The small processor and memory inside the stick run Android and output it through the HDMI port which is plugged into your TV.
Also, those "sticks" usually need an external power source.
Ok, thanks for your fast answer, then I go search on the internet for a good USB stick for the TV.
AndroiDer said:
Ok, thanks for your fast answer, then I go search on the internet for a good USB stick for the TV.
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any recommendation?? got curious too here
I own an MK808 which is pretty awesome, the newer ones are sick.
Have a look here. www.geekbuying.com
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Can someone can try "Headunit" ?

Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !
stadros83 said:
Hello everyone !
If I understood well, it's possible to install Android apps on a Nook Touch ?
If yes is it possible for someone who has a Nook Touch to try this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/android-4-1-headunit-android-auto-t3125252
It's an app to connect a Android phone using "Android Auto" to a tablet. I really want to know if this is working as the EINK displays are way better to put in a car (for the sun) and we don't need a high refresh rate !
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Nope. It says it's for Android 4.1+
The NST runs 2.1
Too bad .
Thanks.
Of course the new Nook Glow Plus would probably work, it's 4.4.2
It's a quicker display than the old Nook and at 300 DPI, sharper too.
Also, the light is pretty good.
That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?
stadros83 said:
That's good to know !
Does someone has it and can test this app ?
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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...
Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.
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It works. Well, it installs and give a nasty error message about not supporting USB Host Mode (Renate can probably help understand what that all means). Attached is a screenshot...
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Thanks a lot for your time/test !
Renate NST said:
Not to dissuade you from your pursuit of an eink unit for the car,
but the Nexus 7 2013 is a pretty good device, nice car size,
good USB host working already, Marshmallow (6.0) and you can find them new for $150.
In any case, I'm certainly interested in getting USB host working on the NGP.
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I already tried tablets in my car but same problem with any phone : the sun .
I have a cab, so I'm looking for a screen which can be used if there is a lot of light ! (and I also like to play with new things ...)
It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?
Renate NST said:
It's funny, I've never had any dealings with the USB API in Android.
I've just used the underlying Linux layer.
I wonder if there are cases where there is actual USB host mode, but the Android API was never implemented correctly?
The simplest test for basic host connectivity is connecting an OTG adapter and a regular USB keyboard.
The shift lock key should turn the shift LED on and off.
What does the headunit software want to talk to over USB?
Could it be done over a serial link instead?
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Honestly I don't know !
stadros83 said:
Honestly I don't know !
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Well, what do you plug it into?
Renate NST said:
Well, what do you plug it into?
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Ah sorry I did not understand your question.
For this you need to plug a smartphone (android 5 at least).
It transforms the tablet in an Android Auto display (like a radio).
But if you have technicals questions about the app you should see with the developper, I'm only a single user .
Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.
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Oh, I'm a little slow on the uptake.
The idea is to just mirror the display on your separate mobile phone?
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Yes, sorry I'm not clear !
I looked a bit more into the USB host mode.
I could be wrong, but it seems that the PCB is not even populated to connect the ID pin on the USB connector.
Of course there must be some software hack to force it into host mode.
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You mean software on the Nook or in the headunit app ?

[Q] What to do w/ a 6th Gen Kindle Fire HD 8?

I have an old 6th Gen Kindle Fire HD 8. It's a finicky device - it works fine, but the charging port only works with one particular non-Amazon USB cable. I have no idea why, but I think the port has had issue from the start.
It's kinda on the bottom of my electronics pile, so it really has no use at the moment. Anyway, it's just sitting around and I don't know what to do with it. Can it be rooted to run bare AOSP?
[Cross-post from the general Kindle Fire XDA section]
MrBrady said:
I really appreciate the reply. Thanks for the information.
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I have one of these. Rooted with mtk-su/SuperSu back in the day, early 2019. Customized enough to be almost stock.
It's a fine device - runs kids' games just fine. No difference with Hd8 2017 really, solid battery life.
It all depends on your needs really. The only downside is that apps start dropping lollipop support, so while it's an OK cpu, some things are just no longer compatible.
MrBrady said:
I have an old 6th Gen Kindle Fire HD 8. It's a finicky device - it works fine, but the charging port only works with one particular non-Amazon USB cable. I have no idea why, but I think the port has had issue from the start.
It's kinda on the bottom of my electronics pile, so it really has no use at the moment. Anyway, it's just sitting around and I don't know what to do with it. Can it be rooted to run bare AOSP?
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There is no root or ROMs for your device.
You must have to use a transferrable micro USB cable to use ADB debugging.
Things to do your Fire tablet as
-> Digital Clock
-> Android app debugger (If your PC doesn't have a virtualization technology to run Android virtual device in Android Studio)
-> Android Auto head unit
-> Smart display
-> MIDI controller (If you don't have a money to buy a MIDI controller. Use your old Fire tablet as a MIDI keyboard in digital audio workstation or stand-alone virtual instruments)
AmznUser444 Dev said:
There is no root or ROMs for your device.
You must have to use a transferrable micro USB cable to use ADB debugging.
Things to do your Fire tablet as
-> Digital Clock
-> Android app debugger (If your PC doesn't have a virtualization technology to run Android virtual device in Android Studio)
-> Android Auto head unit
-> Smart display
-> MIDI controller (If you don't have a money to buy a MIDI controller. Use your old Fire tablet as a MIDI keyboard in digital audio workstation or stand-alone virtual instruments)
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I really appreciate the reply. Thanks for the information.
If you can get a working data cable, you can follow the instructions on this thread to root your fire hd 8 6th gen...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-how-to-root-fire-hd-7-8-10-6th-t3946480
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...xperimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595

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