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This is not exactly a vibrant specific question, but since I have a vibrant and I don't know where else to post it.
If I buy a paid app in the market (I have never bought one before), and then I root the phone (delete everything on it) or change the phone how do I get those paid apps back without paying for them again?

They always show up under your "downloads" and you can download them again at any time.
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chastbi said:
They always show up under your "downloads" and you can download them again at any time.
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but how if I have never create an account how does the market know that I Bought that app.
with my ipad it's ok. since I have to create an account to buy apps. So I get it, but with the android I don't understand since I haven't create any account to buy apps in the android market

You have to create a gmail account to even access the market. I dunno how you would've bypassed this...
And rooting the phone won't delete anything on it
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disturkis4u said:
You have to create a gmail account to even access the market. I dunno how you would've bypassed this...
And rooting the phone won't delete anything on it
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^ its flashing custom roms that "deletes" apps... you have to have a Google account, the app will permanently be on your account and you can re-download the app anytime.

The apps are tied to your Google account, so there's no need to create sone sort of new account for the market. They will always be under downloads on any Android phone you will get.
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thank you guys, now I know how it works so its throught my google account he LoL sorry for be ignorant I just know the there will be a some custom room flashes for my vibrant in the future and didn't want to lose my apps.

Removing bloatware?

What are you guys using to remove bloatware? And which apps are safe to remove?
Edit: So far I have removed these apps with no problems:
(via: Titanium backup)
AppPack
Monopoly
Setup
MyAccount
Stocks
Rockband
Amazon
Demo
Flickr
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I personally use root explorer but I don't delete them I just move them to a folder in my sd card just incase I would have the need for them.
Not only did I take out tmo bloat like app pack, tmo tv, demo videos, demo games but some sense ui too like tweeter(peep), stocks!

What folder are those apps in?
Moving them sounds like a good idea to me.
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mr_skot said:
What folder are those apps in?
Moving them sounds like a good idea to me.
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Their in the system/app/ folder

what demo videos, and games are you moving to your backup folder?

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crxtasi said:
I personally use root explorer but I don't delete them I just move them to a folder in my sd card just incase I would have the need for them.
Not only did I take out tmo bloat like app pack, tmo tv, demo videos, demo games but some sense ui too like tweeter(peep), stocks!
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ryan562 said:
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How do I move them?
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mftek said:
How do I move them?
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Just select the files in your file explorer and use the "move" option, or cut/paste (though I've only seen move as an option).
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crxtasi said:
Their in the system/app/ folder
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Hmm, I don't see all those in there such as Tweeter and that damn AppPack.
Where are those, or what are they named? Thanks!
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Twitter is HTC Peep ( I think). What's app pack? is that all T-mobile junk? Those are all separate apps.

borodin1 said:
Twitter is HTC Peep ( I think). What's app pack? is that all T-mobile junk? Those are all separate apps.
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Yeah, don't see it in the app drawer, but there's a widget for it.
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mftek said:
What are you guys using to remove bloatware? And which apps are safe to remove?
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dude titanium backup is by far the best for bloatware, not only is it one click to remove, but you can do backups as well just in case.

mrpanic7 said:
dude titanium backup is by far the best for bloatware, not only is it one click to remove, but you can do backups as well just in case.
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Which apps have you removed? Cause when I removed alot I started to have syncing.. My phone just kepted syncing and getting errors.......
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well you gotta be careful as to what you remove, you cant just go delete crazy, some apps are tied to the system. for instance i deleted monopoly, amazon, and the T-Mobile app pack. No problems. im curious what have you deleted? and did you do a backup via recovery before you did?

mrpanic7 said:
well you gotta be careful as to what you remove, you cant just go delete crazy, some apps are tied to the system. for instance i deleted monopoly, amazon, and the T-Mobile app pack. No problems. im curious what have you deleted? and did you do a backup via recovery before you did?
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Yeah I made a few recoveries just in case I had a oops moment like this one lol.
I deleted: amazon, asfault racing, peep, demo videos, twitter widget, app pack, yahoo mail, all the themes, modes, friend stream
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mftek said:
Yeah I made a few recoveries just in case I had a oops moment like this one lol.
I deleted: amazon, asfault racing, peep, demo videos, twitter widget, app pack, yahoo mail, all the themes, modes, friend stream
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And setup, stocks, mobile tv.
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mftek said:
Yeah I made a few recoveries just in case I had a oops moment like this one lol.
I deleted: amazon, asfault racing, peep, demo videos, twitter widget, app pack, yahoo mail, all the themes, modes, friend stream
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yeah thats your problem righ there. Things like amazon, app pack those are tmobile add on apks, the things like peep, modes, friendstream are built in with the software, therefore can cause the system to not respond correctly. id say restore from a recovery and delete only simple things, nothing connected to the "My Sense"

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yeah thats your problem righ there. Things like amazon, app pack those are tmobile add on apks, the things like peep, modes, friendstream are built in with the software, therefore can cause the system to not respond correctly. id say restore from a recovery and delete only simple things, nothing connected to the "My Sense"
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Oh ok. What have you deleted?
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I've only removed amazon, T-Mobile App Pack, and Monopoly and havent had any issues at all. I would say you could get away with deleting all the games it comes with since theyre on the sdcard, like i said anything deleted thats connected with the "My Sense" (i.e. friendstream, my modes, etc) may cause trouble. hope this helps!

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I've only removed amazon, T-Mobile App Pack, and Monopoly and havent had any issues at all. I would say you could get away with deleting all the games it comes with since theyre on the sdcard, like i said anything deleted thats connected with the "My Sense" (i.e. friendstream, my modes, etc) may cause trouble. hope this helps!
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Thanks bro
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{Q} Application Restore via Gmail

Does anyone know what it is in a ROM, that when you sign into Gmail, it downloads all your applications that were installed on your device? Ive noticed alot of ROM's lately that are lacking this feature, and was curious as to what allows a ROM to do this.
Thanks

Your market saves all your paid apps. The rest you have to have a backup with like titanium backup
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Nicgraner said:
Your market saves all your paid apps. The rest you have to have a backup with like titanium backup
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no offense. really, but thats not true. if you use a g2, or nexus s, or cm7, when you sign into gmail ALL your apps re download back to your device

Oh right forgot bout that lol feel kinda dumb... But that is true.
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mrpanic7 said:
no offense. really, but thats not true. if you use a g2, or nexus s, or cm7, when you sign into gmail ALL your apps re download back to your device
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It also happens in the Glacier.
My theory is this. the first time you sign into your Google account via a Android phone it picks up the phone model. and the first time you sign in it figures you just got that phone so it will re-download the apps to that phone. and once you change ROMs and resign in it think "hey this phone already as the apps" so it doesn't kick it to the new ROM.
In any case the best thing to do is use Titanium Backup.

Sounds like a good theory to me.
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Check under settings /privacy /back up + auto restore. I believe that's what the initial setup access.
I don't like it, new rom = new app install, just easier to eliminate problems not related to rom.
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Amazon Appstore and Android/Google Market

Does anyone know if it's possible to link the android/google market with the Amazon appstore or visa versa.
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You want to sink it? Hmm. Try an iceberg! It worked for the Titanic!
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Nope, they're completely separate entities.

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Nope, they're completely separate entities.
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I know that, but when I go to update my application is there no way of the android market knowing that I've downloaded application from another source. They both basically have the same applications
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Why would one update an app bought from the other? If you are buying from both you must have both market apps on your device, right? So together all your apps are being updated.
Don't really see the issue here.

iakeco said:
I know that, but when I go to update my application is there no way of the android market knowing that I've downloaded application from another source. They both basically have the same applications
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Try to install the app from Amazon and then use Titanium Backup's "Market Doctor", it might work

Nah that won't work for paid apps. It'll show as installed in the Market, but if you try and update via the Market you'll be prompted to pay.

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Nah that won't work for paid apps. It'll show as installed in the Market, but if you try and update via the Market you'll be prompted to pay.
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Exactly. I tried this with setcpu apk installed. But was prompted to pay before I could get the update.
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did you then have a problem whereby market was always prompting for an update for an app you had bought via amazon? if so, how do you stop market banging on about an app you cant update?

Use Titanium Backup to break the market link.

New Android Market

Title says it all.
I wonder if someone has the apk already.
http://m.gizmodo.com/5820593/the-ne...s-phone-app-which-means-it-looks-a-lot-better

Wondering the same thing, I posted a thread in the themes and apps section asking this also.

Here ya go. Copy to system/app.

You beat me to it I just saw this on another thread!
Fir those that has downloaded it how is it, and can we vibrant users play the movies?
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Haven't tried movies yet but the UI seems nice and functional.
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ty very much for that

Strange thing happened, the market downgraded itself. I guess its not the time to update yet.
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Loving it!
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A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.

jsparakov said:
A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.
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You can still see the permissions before you download.
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You can still see the permissions before you download.
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I'll need to check that out. Thanks!
But how about the updates? I know there's an app that has an update because I didn't grab it yet. Lo and behold, the app does have an update button in the app details BUT it doesn't show up on top of the list. Maybe I'll try doing stuff like rebooting my phone.
Oh, and one more thing. There's no longer the auto-update check mark like before. Is it really missing or am I just missing it?

jsparakov said:
A downgrade indeed... in terms of features. You can't view the permissions of the app before downloading now, updates don't seem to show up on top. There is a possibility that I might have missed those features since I'm new to this.
On the plus side, it's super fast now and there are more useful categories. I hope they bring back the old features if they've been removed.
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My two updates are at the very top and seperated. And of course you can see permissions. Click download and a seperate page comes up to confirm and shows permissions and more clearly I might add.
Also its only showing the updates of apps actually downloaded from the market. I too had two that weren't showing but they did in fact have updates. The reason is those two were backups from like November and I don't remember if I got them from the market or here.
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jsparakov said:
I'll need to check that out. Thanks!
But how about the updates? I know there's an app that has an update because I didn't grab it yet. Lo and behold, the app does have an update button in the app details BUT it doesn't show up on top of the list. Maybe I'll try doing stuff like rebooting my phone.
Oh, and one more thing. There's no longer the auto-update check mark like before. Is it really missing or am I just missing it?
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All my applications that needs to be updated are on top also there's still an option for automatic updates.
This is really a good update. I just need a wifi at my house so I can now rent movies.
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So it turns out that all of the features that appeared missing (uninstall, auto-update, permissions section) were mostly caused by my apps losing their market links.. and being too quick to judge for the permissions one. After rebooting, the list of all my installed apps disappeared where they were in the "not installed" section before. So I think I'll have to find a way to restore them. It's either with market doctor in Titanium and/or clearing the market data, right?

I hear rooted users can not rent movies though the new market. Is this true?

bkg.brett said:
I hear rooted users can not rent movies though the new market. Is this true?
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Yes. This is true.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=434bbbbe082cf796&hl=en
(The author of that complaint is Supercurio, creator of Voodoo Lagfix)

Yup, rooted phones can't watch movies. I don't see them removing that policy because of piracy issues.
But it really sucks to be this way, maybe they should do what amazon is doing? Making sure that the movies will only work on the account that downloaded it?
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Thanks EB for the link. working perfectly on SimplyHoney 3.9.1.

tried the market apk on the latest cm7 nightly, but when i try to open it i get the message "you must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?" so i choose yes but nothing happens i logged in to google thru the browser but no luck there either any suggestions??

After spending about 15 min with this, I have to say that this market is a nice improvement. The issues I encountered were all temporary (missing update button, security permissions lists before download, etc). Sucks that they decided to stop rooted users from video rentals. I can see why, but in the end someone will figure out how to bypass that.
If anyone has issues listing their installed apps in My Apps my solution was to use titanium backup to wipe the data of the market app clean + using the market doctor. I also had two accounts in accounts and sync and had to get rid of the secondary one to get to load up my default sync data.
salty bisquits said:
tried the market apk on the latest cm7 nightly, but when i try to open it i get the message "you must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?" so i choose yes but nothing happens i logged in to google thru the browser but no luck there either any suggestions??
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You have to accounts and sync in the settings and add an account. Quite weird that you can't do it through the actual market. I never had an issue doing that in youtube!