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Notification bar burned onto the screen

I just got a new nexus one swapped 2 days ago from HTC under warranty. I'm running MIUI on the new nexus and I just noticed that my notification bar burned onto the screen. I had MIUI on the last nexus for about a month and nothing happened to the screen, had to get it changed for different reason.
I was thinking it was due to the fact that miui's notification bar is transparent or somehow the screen didn't turn off during the night, but then all of the other things(icon, etc.) would have burned onto the screen.
Im going to call HTC and find out what they have to say. But does anyone have any insight to this. I really dont want to leave MIUI, really like that rom.

This is going to be a risk you run with refurbed Nexus Ones. Most people run them with white notification bars. I have two Nexus Ones and even being careful I have some burn-in. I run my everyday Nexus with a black notification bar and still there is slight burn in(uneven wear). I've never personally seen a Nexus without some form of burn in(uneven wear) from the notification bar. It is the most persistent part of the UI, even when you hide it with something like LauncherPro, etc.., it will pop up when in the market, and other apps that do not have the option to hide it. etc..

I'm running mine with the stock white notification bar as I'm 100% stock. I don't see any burn in on my screen. Any ways to check with an app that makes it more visible?
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msavic6 said:
I'm running mine with the stock white notification bar as I'm 100% stock. I don't see any burn in on my screen. Any ways to check with an app that makes it more visible?
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try going in to the Gmail app, then go in to an email with not much text and scroll down until you have a white screen, and look at the left side of the screen(in landscape) against the white background.
that said, if you do not notice it now, I WOULD NOT GO LOOKING FOR IT...you will most likely find it and it will start bothering you.

I guess thats why gingerbread went with black notification bar.

I only notice the burn in on my N1 when I'm on Google's homepage

Old MuckenMire said:
try going in to the Gmail app, then go in to an email with not much text and scroll down until you have a white screen, and look at the left side of the screen(in landscape) against the white background.
that said, if you do not notice it now, I WOULD NOT GO LOOKING FOR IT...you will most likely find it and it will start bothering you.
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I'm not gonna look for it as I wont be able to forget about it.
Hopefully gingerbread shows up soon so the black notification bar wont burn into my screen.
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Old MuckenMire said:
try going in to the Gmail app, then go in to an email with not much text and scroll down until you have a white screen, and look at the left side of the screen(in landscape) against the white background.
that said, if you do not notice it now, I WOULD NOT GO LOOKING FOR IT...you will most likely find it and it will start bothering you.
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Yeah, I noticed it using Floating Image myself, a nifty program that floats images from your camera dirs and the internet past you. Noticed the notification bar area looked odd, then looked closer and realized it was darker.
I've since started using a ROM with a dark notification bar, maybe mitigate it a bit, although I suspect the clock being in the same place all the time will burn up there too.

Too much for not looking for it. I just went on the Google homepage in landscape and I saw a tiny tiny bit of burn in like barely noticable. So I turned my brightness to Max to see if it was more visible and I couldn't see it on 100% brightness. Only when its on lowest brightness am I able to see the burn in. Good enough for me
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khaytsus said:
Yeah, I noticed it using Floating Image myself, a nifty program that floats images from your camera dirs and the internet past you. Noticed the notification bar area looked odd, then looked closer and realized it was darker.
I've since started using a ROM with a dark notification bar, maybe mitigate it a bit, although I suspect the clock being in the same place all the time will burn up there too.
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yeah pretty much anything that is persistent is going to possibly cause an issue. I'm glad Google is going with black now. I think it looks better and is safer for our AMOLED screens. As far as I know, this is not an issue for folks with SLCD Nexus ones since LCD phosphors have a much higher half life so do not show this issue until you are pretty much ready to upgrade your device....if it ever shows. LCD tech is much further advanced in this area than AMOLED.
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Too much for not looking for it. I just went on the Google homepage in landscape and I saw a tiny tiny bit of burn in like barely noticable. So I turned my brightness to Max to see if it was more visible and I couldn't see it on 100% brightness. Only when its on lowest brightness am I able to see the burn in. Good enough for me
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Just be careful of using high brightness: it will age the pixels quicker and make it even more noticeable. Best thing to do is use a launcher like Launcher pro and hide the bar as much as you can for awhile to "wipe" the worn pixels. Same with any apps that allow for hiding the notification bar in settings. That will improve it some and then you can use the black bar that will come with Gingerbread and you should be good. It wont be gone 100% but will be barely visible at that point.

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Just be careful of using high brightness: it will age the pixels quicker and make it even more noticeable. Best thing to do is use a launcher like Launcher pro and hide the bar as much as you can for awhile to "wipe" the worn pixels. Same with any apps that allow for hiding the notification bar in settings. That will improve it some and then you can use the black bar that will come with Gingerbread and you should be good. It wont be gone 100% but will be barely visible at that point.
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I always leave my brightness on automatic and now i hid the notification bar in launcher pro. i'm set until gingerbread

My 2nd hand Nexus One has burn in of the title bar. TBH I'm not that bothered; its very unlikely I'll even still have this phone this time next year. How long do some of you folks really think you'll own this phone for? Its aged well, but in 12 months time, I reckon it'll be a pretty small percentage of people posting now who still use one of these with any regularity.
I just ignore it.
I do use a theme with a black bar now anyway.
I wonder if the SAMOLED stuff suffers this issue?

tameracingdriver said:
My 2nd hand Nexus One has burn in of the title bar. TBH I'm not that bothered; its very unlikely I'll even still have this phone this time next year. How long do some of you folks really think you'll own this phone for? Its aged well, but in 12 months time, I reckon it'll be a pretty small percentage of people posting now who still use one of these with any regularity.
I just ignore it.
I do use a theme with a black bar now anyway.
I wonder if the SAMOLED stuff suffers this issue?
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I plan to use my nexus one until the end of 2011. I only got my phone in may 2010.
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msavic6 said:
I plan to use my nexus one until the end of 2011. I only got my phone in may 2010.
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Yes, but I bet you'll replace it by then.

Same exact thing happen to me on a swap and the went me another one that was in perfect condition without hassle
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Buck Shot said:
Same exact thing happen to me on a swap and the went me another one that was in perfect condition without hassle
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That's been my experience with HTC, they've never hassled me about anything I've wanted help with. I sure wish they were making the next Google phone.

cant we make the notification bar more transparent using some sort of theme or something ??? :S

amoled burnin

Ok, i own my galaxy about 5 months. I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax, started the xda app and saw my battery, signal indicator and time as a shadow at the brown xda loadscreen. brightness was always set to auto.
I know this effect on plasma tvs, but with amoled, shouldn't be possible by design.
any thoughts are welcome
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It's usual degradation of OLEDs. As the statusbar is quite static those pixels that are always light degrade faster than pixels than other ("not so static") pixels.
Now the more degraded pixels are darker on the same voltage levels and this can be seen when the statusbar is hidden.
That's one of the disadvantages of OLEDs currently.

Sysiphus1981 said:
Ok, i own my galaxy about 5 months. I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax, started the xda app and saw my battery, signal indicator and time as a shadow at the brown xda loadscreen. brightness was always set to auto.
I know this effect on plasma tvs, but with amoled, shouldn't be possible by design.
any thoughts are welcome
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Try rebooting your phone, then in the keypad dial *#0*# and test the screen with the options there check if there is any error in colour reproduction. Or test with images created with paint with only a single colour paint and test it with the screen on galaxy s.
If you observe any colour out of place or not uniform throughout, it might due to hardware issue of the amoled screen.
Hope this helps

checked via sgs tools secret codes (the code from above) lcdtest. degration is there for green and blue, hard to see in red.
will test some disco flash app, maybe it will get better like with plasma panels.
all in all, it is only annoying and the display will get damaged by design. I wonder, if there is a theme for the bar with less contrast grafics, like most tvstation did with there stationsymbol.
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The blue pixel organic compound of AMOLED will degrade the quickest. That's the reason these phones are programmed to be more blueish when new, so that as it degrades, the blue should still be visible until the screen dies.

I own my SGS I9000 now since the 25th of June and i don't have that problem, how long is your total amount of Screen on time? I think by intensive use my approx. Screen on time per day is about 2 h. 6 Months are 180 days a 2h are 360h. Industrial Keys for Control Panels with OLED Displays have a average lifetime of 15000h, newer one 30000h.
I don't knew the lifetime for Samsungs AMOLED Screens but i guess it sould be around 10 to 15k hours. So i would contact seller, or samsung service about that.
Regards Christopher
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In the UK you're covered by the Sale of Goods Act - the phone should be expected to last a good 5 years or so. I didn't agree to anything about a failing screen so if it doesn't last an appropriate time then I'll be expecting a replacement screen.
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You know what? I went to check my screen under white, red, blue and green; I have some burn in for the battery icon as well. Lol.
To avoid more damage, I will be using the device in varying orientation.
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I wonder how fast the SAMOLED will die if its used as a deskstand for 8hrs / day

kempas said:
In the UK you're covered by the Sale of Goods Act - the phone should be expected to last a good 5 years or so. I didn't agree to anything about a failing screen so if it doesn't last an appropriate time then I'll be expecting a replacement screen.
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UK law says a product is expected to last 12 months however Samsung do have a 24 month warranty on this product which is nice. If i was you kempas i would have that repaired (screen replacement) as it's completely free except for the time it takes.
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Just remember to flash back a factory firmware before you send it to a repair centre, custom/modified firmware voids your warranty in any country.

I've got my phone for about 4 months, everyone else I know can see a visible silhouette on the AM/PM symbol with a blue/white image displayed on the screen.
I guess in a year's time its gonna be completely screen burned.. would this mean that SAMOLED is pretty much in infancty/trial stage?

Sysiphus1981 said:
I turned the backlight to 0% in andromax,
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There is no backlight on AMOLED and SAMOLED screens.
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I wonder how fast the SAMOLED will die if its used as a deskstand for 8hrs / day
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Pretty damn quickly. Well it wont die, but burn-in will set in and the screen brightness will degrade.
Although if you use an app like alarm clock Plus it shouldn't be a problem. When it goes into screensaver mode it keeps the background black and only uses a small portion of the screen to display the time and date. It also moves the time and date around to prevent burn-in.
I use it at night when my phone is charging. The black pixels do emit a tiny amount of light but that shouldn't do any harm.

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I've had my my SGS for about 4 months, everyone else I know can see a visible silhouette on the AM/PM symbol with a blue/white image displayed on the screen.
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I've had phone for 6mths. Most of the time on 0% brightness. I never noticed it before but after reading your post I noticed the AM/PM burn in VERY VERY slightly (only on pure blue background)
From now on I'm using 24hrs clock format LOL.
Let's face it though guys, u can't keep a perfect screen forever. I even have a single stuck pixel but I learned to live with it. (1 pixel on a 480x800 screen is fairly unnoticeable, especially if it's a good colour).

It was not noticable till i read about this thread, i hate knowing things like this! hahah
Anyway we can fix the burn in ?
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The 24hr format barely helps since theres already a very faint image of the numbers burning in.
Im guessing after a yr of usage the screen burn will be very obvious... with this said im having 2nd thoughts of getting another AMOLED based screen haha

to fix LCD TV's you flush with white. so leave a pure white screen running over night. this kinda resets the crystals.
worth a try with the phone also with the galaxy s you need to have 8 dead pixels to change the screen so if affected area is over 8 pixel should be fine.
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The AM/PM sign is displayed by a white pixel so Im not sure displaying a white color overnight can help fix the issue.
Having the screen replaced is not an option here in where I live, its gonna take over 60-75 days for them just to replace the screen and chances are it will be a refurb screen or they will just outright refuse replacement since its a burn in.
The affected area is probably more than 8 pixels.

it resets the crystals so should work. worth a try if someone has a burn
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sorry not cyrstals the leds
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it resets the crystals so should work. worth a try if someone has a burn
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The AM/PM is displayed with a white color by default, so how can displaying a a full white screen fix/reset the image burn ?
btw the image burn is a faint black.

Im also guessing with the GB update they removed the AM/PM so help prevent screen burn and prolong the intitial burn instead of 4 months to probably 8 or 12.

Burn-in anyone else?

Anyone but me have this problem?

Haven't checked... and not going to do either.... as it's a non issue in normal usage (i'm seldom staring at a completely white screen just to see that the status bar area has aged the screen differently) and a "feature" of amoled technology
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It's there on most colors! I took white cause it is easier to see on a photo but it is there all the time! I'm not retarded!
And the worst part is that the little part that is whiter is the only part that is really sharp like it used to be, while the rest of the screen never is really white and sharp but instead has an uneven yellowish color. And it is worse than I could capture on photo.
I love my phone im not trying to mock it.

I'm not even gonna check
Because if I do, I'll notice it every single time I use the phone, and it'll annoy me to death.

If you don't see it you don't have it. It's there all the time. Of course it's only in games or reading stuff that is full screen. But anything except the black status bar!

Ditto problem.
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@marber45 I've observed the same thing a few weeks ago. I think already many SGS2's displays are suffering of this

I have this problem
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I noticed it just days before you made the post, interesting timing.

Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, I've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?

Same problem!
But in reality it is not a real problem..

AMOLED is still not ready for prime time, but at least Samsung is trying to improve on it with every iteration. Can't wait for 40"+ AMOLED HD TVs.

Before waranty goes off demand to change display..
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
Mine was delivered in may w/ 2.3.3, since I'm on a 2.3.5 based rom, I got better colors / sharpness and less side effects (greenish tint)
Maybe Samsung changed the way how to control the display? (hardware drivers)
just my 2 cents..

Yes
Just changed the screen last month
Now its ok
Dunno if it will be burned again
Also dunno what caused it
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Hey there, might be interesting to know on which built your phone is operating?
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Irrelevant. It's an AMOLED hardware-related thing, nothing to do with software. My screen has burn-in, your screen has/will, every screen does/will.
When somebody says their screen has none they just don't see it. Because really, all our phones one day or later will show it.

I don't use any apps that ever hide the status bar so even if I did have it, it wouldn't bother me.
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Hi
My notification area is a bit darker than the rest of my screen. It's only visible when screen is white, and I can't identify any leftovers from any icons like the battery or Wifi icon.
My SGS2 is about ½ year old, and in daily use it's no problem at all, but I wonder how it will look when my SGS2 is 1 or 2 years old

Update... Check this out.
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Update... Check this out.
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What do you want us to loook for ???

AMOLED burn-in problem

Hey everyone!
Yesterday I noticed a blue bar at the top of my screen. It's my statusbar which has burned into my display. If I open a complete white screen, it's clearly visible (one can even see the clock, lol).
I didn't use my phone excessively, didn't use it as a night clock or something, I just used it actively ~3 hours a day.
I'm thinking about contacting Samsung as I bought it on 2nd March 2011 - so AFAIK I should still have warranty on it. I'm now asking myself what Samsung would do - either repairing it (I don't think so) or sending me a new device? I'm a bit afraid that they will send me a i9001 since the i9000 is not manufactured anymore.
Has anybody else experienced similar problems with AMOLEDs from Samsung and can tell me something about their warranty regulations?
Best Regards and thanks in advance, guys!
Blue

BlueFlame4 said:
Hey everyone!
Yesterday I noticed a blue bar at the top of my screen. It's my statusbar which has burned into my display. If I open a complete white screen, it's clearly visible (one can even see the clock, lol).
I didn't use my phone excessively, didn't use it as a night clock or something, I just used it actively ~3 hours a day.
I'm thinking about contacting Samsung as I bought it on 2nd March 2011 - so AFAIK I should still have warranty on it. I'm now asking myself what Samsung would do - either repairing it (I don't think so) or sending me a new device? I'm a bit afraid that they will send me a i9001 since the i9000 is not manufactured anymore.
Has anybody else experienced similar problems with AMOLEDs from Samsung and can tell me something about their warranty regulations?
Best Regards and thanks in advance, guys!
Blue
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I have not had this problem and my sgs is 2 years old. And I doubt that you will get a new one because it is not made anyway. They will probably just repair it.
Good luck!
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The problem is less pronounced with the sgs 1 compared to the sgs 2 but it is definitely there. The status bar displays the same stuff all of the time and it is prone to screen burn in . Try one of the amoled burn in apps on the market and see if they help your device or not. They didnt remove the problem entirely but at least I don't get this obvious blue line across the top of my screen when I watch videos or do anything else in landscape.

I've got the exact same problem . Its mostly on the top left of the screen(status bar area) and very light bluish tint throughout the status bar. Doesn't bother me too much though.
BTW I use my phone a lot.
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The point is that I read a lot of scripts and books on my screen and thus the blue bar is quite annoying. What do I have to consider when I send it back to Samsung?
My idea was to flash a stock ROM from sammobile and wipe everything. Do I have to do more (e.g. downgrade Bootloader or something)?

I havent't faced any issue like this

I really doubt samsung will do anything about it.. They most likely sent it back as "everything is fine" i think it's very rare they switch screens (or phones). I think it's just user traces...

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I really doubt samsung will do anything about it.. They most likely sent it back as "everything is fine" i think it's very rare they switch screens (or phones). I think it's just user traces...
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Well, actually it's not just a trace from usage. If I cracked my display or something similar, THAT would be a usage trace. I see what I can do... Not sure though if I should really send it back since I love my i9000

Blue is known to be the worst color for screen burn in on amoled, which begs the question....why blue ics theme Samsung?
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Dammit, my second i9000 got this 2. It ran stock for my friend, and the menu icons like contacts, messaging, browser and apps got burnt in... it's unbearable.
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DanielSanchez said:
Dammit, my second i9000 got this 2. It ran stock for my friend, and the menu icons like contacts, messaging, browser and apps got burnt in... it's unbearable.
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Possibly a defective unit? Under normal circumstances, in no way should this happen unless you leave the screen on at high brightness displaying the same stuff for an extended period of time.
I max out the brightness of my SGS since day 1 and I only notice burn in on the status bar. Although I admit, I have changed from Touchwiz launcher to launcher pro, adw ex, go, zeam, apex, nova, lightning, back to zeam and now Apex, so the icons on my launchers and home screens have shifted quite a bit in position thus eliminating the possibility of burn in. You do have to make sure that you do not display the same stuff for an extended period of time using OLED displays.

Screen Burn In

I've got S4 ~ only weeks old for now, barely used it and got the numbers burned in on the screen barely visible in blue background so the screen burn in started in that area clearly (they have been present for more than a week) i changed to swiftkey in order to avoid the whole situation and i always hide actually my keyboard when not in use and such. however the weird part i feel the numbers are becoming more visible now in the blue background than they were before i change the keyboard? does the detoration keep happening in the same area even tho i changed the keyboard itself ? is there a way i can prevent it from happening. and the status bar if possible i want to hide it but keep being able to drag the notification center?
thank you

anyone got any idea

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There is an app that claims to repair burn-ins by scroling black and white bars. I have the app (pro) myself but haven`t used it yet to repair burn-ins. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester.

gee2012 said:
There is an app that claims to repair burn-ins by scroling black and white bars. I have the app (pro) myself but haven`t used it yet to repair burn-ins. Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester.
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That is a myth. Once the screen is burnt in there is nothing you can do. Claim the warranty.
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now the burn ins got even more as in more places and such, thing is i'm abroad now and samsung as other companies warranty is not international sadly. i have this display tester pro app and tried it for some minutes didnt see any difference maybe i've used it wrong. weird doesnt that mean all s4 will get at some point burn in. weirdly thought amoled tech have been advanced at least to the extent that it doesnt burn in that fast :/
i heard there is a way to make inverse of burn in and leave it on so that burn in goes complete screen loses tiny amount of contrast but become equal fully once again something of that sort... is it possible any suggestion :/ never going for amoled again (coming from iphone)

I had this problem on my old HTC One S (similar PenTile display), so I've learned my lesson now and run a screen burn tool every night to prevent the problem from happening. It must be done on full brightness.
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Yeah, burn-in is one of the reasons i went with an lcd phone, i was paranoid about it happening with my S3, running white screen deadpixel finder at full brightness every couple of days, move your icons around, keep your brightness as low as possible, there is an app called "burn in Savior" for the notification bar i also used "go launcher" to hide the notification bar, also change your clock on the n-bar to 24hr so the am/pm don't burn in.
You guys should see the HTC One M7 screen it`s glorious, no burn-in worries.
John.

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Yeah, burn-in is one of the reasons i went with an lcd phone, i was paranoid about it happening with my S3, running white screen deadpixel finder at full brightness every couple of days, move your icons around, keep your brightness as low as possible, there is an app called "burn in Savior" for the notification bar i also used "go launcher" to hide the notification bar, also change your clock on the n-bar to 24hr so the am/pm don't burn in.
You guys should see the HTC One M7 screen it`s glorious, no burn-in worries.
John.
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Had the HTC One, was a nice device but like all phones it has its disadvantages:
- trapped within the CID, unless you have S-Off and change CID manualy
- Unlocking the bootloader may cause warranty issues, even if relocked
- Slow updates
- No removable battery
- No external SDCard

I suppose you have to decide what is more important to you!, I would love an S4 as well. :good:
John.
gee2012 said:
Had the HTC One, was a nice device but like all phones it has its disadvantages:
- trapped within the CID, unless you have S-Off and change CID manualy
- Unlocking the bootloader may cause warranty issues, even if relocked
- Slow updates
- No removable battery
- No external SDCard
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