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Happy x10 user

Let's try this for a change, instead whining about features you wish we had, let's talk about things we like about our beloved x10's.
I love the design, the screen and the camera. I'm glad we don't have multitouch, yes its good for emulator and games, but I hate silly multitouch gestures. I enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand.
Please share you're positive experiences and features you like.
Oh and for the love of god, nobody use this thread to bash the x10 there is already too many treads about crap.
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Good idea, lets keep this thread positive.
My favourite things about the X10 are:
1. The screen. It's bright, I can use it even in direct sunlight, it has a decent resolution with a "proper" aspect ratio of 16:9 and even with the "low" colour depth it works perfectly fine for watching videos, looking at photos I've taken and surfing the web.
2. The design. I have the black model and as far as I'm concerned it's the best looking phone out there. It has a nice B&O feel to it, it's pretty discrete and the minimal level of decoration isn't flashy or anything.
3. It feels solid. Compared to other phones I've owned or used for extended periods time I'd rank this in the top 5 when it comes to how it feels. The iPhone 3GS comes in at first place of course and in second place I'd put the HTC Diamond, it's built like a tank. After that it's a very close race between the X10 and the Blackstone but the X10 barely wins by not having any loose parts and proper buttons.

The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other

Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.

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The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other
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Wish the frame rate was quicker but same here. I find myself actually taking pictures with it! Can't say I really used the camera as much on any other phone I owned before this.
I have even taken a few with the X10 that have become amongst my favorite photos.

I agree with all the previous comments but I have to add one that will probably make some people gasp! lol
I actually like and use MediaScape. I like the (for lack of a proper term) "infinity functions" that link to Youtube videos and the ability to update or add album art directly on the phone. The ability to use all my existing playlists via MediaGo is also a great feature as I have a ZuneHD and now I can use the same playlists on both devices.
I am also very impressed with the battery life (since going back to the AT&T R2CA016 ROM). The original ROM was a little sluggish at times but since I rooted and removed the AT&T bloatware, the performance has been outstanding. Everything works smoothly and quickly. I also re-enabled the non-market apps by following the Captivate guide and adjusting it for the location of the settings.db on the X10.
I really prefer the physical keys over the soft buttons on most of the newer devices as well.
This phone does everything I need and most of what I want so I am extremely happy that I returned a Captivate and replaced it with the X10.

Best looking touch screen phone ever. If I have to take the form of non living creature, I want to be white X10s charger ;-)
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I also like mediascape, and with the coming updates it will only get better. As lacking as uxp can be in some areas, timescape for example. Se have put forward some brilliant ideas, and pulled of a fantastic first effort for android.
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This is by far the best looking phone i have ever owned, im a very happy with my X10. the lack of 2.1 is no reason to sell it, a month isnt that long to wait really.
Cracking camera imo
Fastest phone ive owned, not saying much since my last phone was a nokia 5800 Xpress music
all in all, happy with it, also i get satisfaction knowing im on a 2 year contract and the phone seems rather indestructible, run over by a bus and left in water for half an hour.

If a bluetooth fix came out i wouldnt give a monkeys to eclair, frozen yoghurt or spotted **** lol
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Great phones! Makes calls, writes texts..
Nothing else to add!
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As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!

Crocketeer said:
As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!
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How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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I returned an HTC Aria in favor of the X10, and even though the delay of the 2.1 update is frustrating, I am very happy with my purchase. The X10 is much more solid-feeling phone, with better battery life. I also think Sony Ericsson has a much better solution for managing media than HTC. Superior sound quality and a better camera than either my Aria or my iPhone as well.

ptesmoke said:
How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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Well i have no experience with android and after many years of being a palm freak i switched to iphone 2 years ago. It has done the job well and it was only when an offer came up in our newspaper that i decided to order the X10 for my daughters birthday on contract. My work has just upped my handset to the iphone 4 and after playing with the x10 for 2 days now and hearing an update is coming too then i am seriously considering giving my daughter the iphone 4 and keeping the x10 . It is like having an updated palm back . The screen is Brill , market store is tops and the customisation it offers hours of fun .... widgets are cool ... camera is best ive used
Im One happy X10 user

berbecverde said:
Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.
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lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned

Well, for me, what I like about it is because it's an Android, which is a competitor of the uPhone, and has more growing potentials than a Windows or Symbian phone.
Wanted to try out Nexus One, but as a multimedia fanatic, I read reviews that the music players are not really that satisfactory. So Rachael was an ideal choice since Sony has the upper hand when it comes to walkman-related stuff.
As for HTC, it's only natural to wanna try one, since there are alot of satisfied users out there, but the phones' designs were not as nice as Rachael's. (They even added a 'chin' to the Desire, which wasn't present on Nexus One)
So, yeah... Basically I only go for the beauty and the multimedia functions. OS versions are not really a big deal for me. True, I went gaga over the sight of Live Wallpapers, but then I can live without it. =D
The thing I like about Mediascape it the way the images were animated when they appear and disappear.

rkanwar said:
lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned
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Hmm I guess there's no really a 'true way' about this, but I guess sucky battery life happens to new phones...
We all have experienced gradual stability of power drainage as time goes by. It's either the phone has grown accustomed to the battery, or vice versa, or that we have slowly become aware of how to avoid it?
Mine used to have it's power drop to 50% or more within 5 hours, without using it, and now it just drops like what? 3-10% by end day?
Give your phone some time. It will get better =)

I like it because its SE Design, only compnay which knows hardware design. I like it since its white color phone and because its running Android.

There is something about Rachael

There is something about Rachael no matter how many times I go to buy like HTC desire or Samsung galaxy s. I ended up keeping the x10
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Rachael is my only girlfriend.

Maybe you just like rachaels bigger front end?

She's much hotter when you stick your charger in her too.

XperiaX10iUser said:
She's much hotter when you stick your charger in her too.
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Brilliant
Matter of factly, the Galaxy S I9000 was a few thousand bucks cheaper than the X10 [it still might be] when I was in the market for a new Android phone, yet I still bought the X10.
I'll be honest, personally, I LOVE the Galaxy's SAMOLED screen -- and it's probably the ONLY thing I love about it. It looks cheap, tacky build quality and the custom Samsung UI is a joke. I greatly prefer X10's looks, build and the UI is quite professional looking, IMO.

javagreen said:
Brilliant
Matter of factly, the Galaxy S I9000 was a few thousand bucks cheaper than the X10 [it still might be] when I was in the market for a new Android phone, yet I still bought the X10.
I'll be honest, personally, I LOVE the Galaxy's SAMOLED screen -- and it's probably the ONLY thing I love about it. It looks cheap, tacky build quality and the custom Samsung UI is a joke. I greatly prefer X10's looks, build and the UI is quite professional looking, IMO.
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yeah agree with u. i have the chance to own a Galaxy S for a few days, alongside with my X10... only the screen... only the screen. once away from stock conditions... X10 flies far away. not to mention the Galaxy Lag issue.... its serious.
mice

It's certainly got something about it, not just how it feels in your hand or how it looks but something else I can't put my finger on. It's like a Lancia Delta Integrale or Lancia Stratos. Boxy, clunky and slightly off but still looks great. It's the best looking phone I've ever had, shame the software doesn't match the chassi and hardware.
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ddewbofh said:
It's certainly got something about it
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"it", "IT", she does have a name you know.
ddewbofh said:
It's the best looking phone I've ever had, shame the software doesn't match the chassi and hardware.
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Yeah, she might not be the brightest tool in the box, but wouldn't want to run my hands over anyone else.

I think this is the first thread in a long time that doesn't contain flaming and whining!
I too love Rachael so much! And being a girl, imagine how naughty that makes me!!!
It's got style and vanilla Android is -for the time being- is totally missing that.
I mean, come on, a white status bar, black menu backgrounds, orange highlights with a grey tint on them... That's just sick, imho!!

rachel is shelved for now here I grabbed a liquid for now, need updates to adress battery life and horrible lag before rachel becomes my one and only again

Yes she is very special and unique i cant leave her its strange there is this connection between us...
And she's beautiful

Is that her?
Where did you buy yours, I need to go change mine.
soon

My wife gets terribly jealous of my rachael.
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This is one of the reason i love X10 so much.
When you pick up Samsung Galaxy S or Motorola Milestone, you will see the screen is amazing, the speed and response is also amazing, then you will start see that everything is plain, contact book, music player, photo viewer. They all stocks with only different theming.
The Motorola DEXT and LG GW620 is much better in term of customization of the phones.
I always wonder, why other people keep on mentioning to take out the Timescape and Mediascape out of X10. Why did you buy the handset in the first place. I buy mine because of Timescape and Mediascape. Lol i even remember the time the first root is released, even the devs tried to rip off the Mediascape

Nimche said:
Is that her?
Where did you buy yours, I need to go change mine.
soon
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lol yes that is my Rachael for now Soon i might change her appearance .. thats a reason why i love her so much lol i get to change her face whenever i want

Now I understand why this phone is so popular

I've wanted this phone for a while, my X10 finally crapped out on me a couple of days ago. So I made a deal with my career and got the S2.
And all I have to say is WoW. I've only been playing with the phone for about an hour and I can see why this thing is so popular. The speed, the functionality, Samsung has done a great job. Just little things like the Task Manager or the File Manager. Or even the nice graphics when you go to cut-n-paste.
Sony is really behind, even their new S and Ion I think will be behind.

Jamolah said:
I've wanted this phone for a while, my X10 finally crapped out on me a couple of days ago. So I made a deal with my career and got the S2.
And all I have to say is WoW. I've only been playing with the phone for about an hour and I can see why this thing is so popular. The speed, the functionality, Samsung has done a great job. Just little things like the Task Manager or the File Manager. Or even the nice graphics when you go to cut-n-paste.
Sony is really behind, even their new S and Ion I think will be behind.
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We know

the real wow! effect do you get if you get rid of the samsung rom and place cyanogen, miui or other on it.
But you should wait for the ics builds, they'll come in a few days

Jamolah said:
Sony is really behind, even their new S and Ion I think will be behind.
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Perhaps Sony is behind in phone manufacturing, but Samsung is behind in camera optics manufacturing

Welcome to the s2 club
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Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Perhaps Sony is behind in phone manufacturing, but Samsung is behind in camera optics manufacturing
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Actually, the camera is pretty good on this phone (SGS2). I'd say on-par with the Camera in my X10.

I've got SGS2 & RAZR at the moment, my only complaint with SGS2 is that its look is somewhat ugly and has no notification LED, everything else is better than RAZR.

Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast said:
Perhaps Sony is behind in phone manufacturing, but Samsung is behind in camera optics manufacturing
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Compare to other phones, SGS2 camera is far better.

Jamolah said:
I've wanted this phone for a while, my X10 finally crapped out on me a couple of days ago. So I made a deal with my career and got the S2.
And all I have to say is WoW. I've only been playing with the phone for about an hour and I can see why this thing is so popular. The speed, the functionality, Samsung has done a great job. Just little things like the Task Manager or the File Manager. Or even the nice graphics when you go to cut-n-paste.
Sony is really behind, even their new S and Ion I think will be behind.
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Wait till you root and jump ship to CM9 AOSP>>TouchWiz.

try cyanogen mod9 and you ll know why we really love it

Fulvian said:
I've got SGS2 & RAZR at the moment, my only complaint with SGS2 is that its look is somewhat ugly and has no notification LED, everything else is better than RAZR.
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Use BLN for notifications.
I don't understand at all why they don't put LEDs on SS phones. My Captivate didnt' either.

Only 3 small gripes about the phone: no dedicated camera button, no widget for the music player and as mentioned no LED notification. But these are minor compared to all the benefits
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For music I use PowerAmp, it's amazing. I just love that spring came, so I'll test camera with nature these weeks
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Jamolah said:
Only 2 small gripes about the phone: no dedicated camera button, no widget for the music player and as mentioned no LED notification. But these are minor compared to all the benefits
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Yes, but it's all things that were somewhat fixed with tweaks. I was on the X10 boat back in the day... I jumped ship REALLY quickly (Right after the eclair upgrade) because I couldn't stand how restrictive the security was (Locked bootloader and such). I'm glad I did. I jumped ship on two of the greatest android phones in history right after: The HD2 and now the SGS2.

Cyanogen Mod
I've just got the SGS2 and it is just incredible.
I'd love to try Cyanogen Mod, when will version 9 be released and can anyone point me in the right direction to a link of a comprehensive tutorial on how to do a first time install. My phone is un-rooted and has stock firmware.

santhoshar said:
Compare to other phones, SGS2 camera is far better.
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You made me laugh. The camera sensor in Samsung galaxy S2 is the one made by Sony. Hence great pictures.
Ps.. Sony is pretty much ahead in making Sexy phones with the touch of innovation but on the other hand Sammy is good at giving births to beasts in terms of hardware
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Nice to read this mate. I hope you enjoy it
When I jumped from the HTC Desire to the Galaxy S II almost a year ago, I got a big Wow effect as well. I remember I was amazed by how thin it was, how beautiful the colours on the screen were and how fast it was. Good times
I would never buy an LG or Sony Android phone. They may have good design, but most of them have got crappy software (crappy custom interfaces, that lag and aren't awesome). Besides Samsung, I also like HTC. If somebody asks me what phone to buy, I would say wait and choose between the Galaxy S III and HTC One X :x
Anyway, Galaxy S II is a total winner
Edit: oh, for music Poweramp +1

X-Plosiv said:
For music I use PowerAmp, it's amazing. I just love that spring came, so I'll test camera with nature these weeks
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Yah I was using PowerAmp on my X10 good product. I generally like to keep stock apps, so I don't bog down the phone with stuff that doesn't work with each other. I guess in this case I'll have to use a 3rd party music player.
XDA mark said:
Nice to read this mate. I hope you enjoy it
When I jumped from the HTC Desire to the Galaxy S II almost a year ago, I got a big Wow effect as well. I remember I was amazed by how thin it was, how beautiful the colours on the screen were and how fast it was. Good times
I would never buy an LG or Sony Android phone. They may have good design, but most of them have got crappy software (crappy custom interfaces, that lag and aren't awesome). Besides Samsung, I also like HTC. If somebody asks me what phone to buy, I would say wait and choose between the Galaxy S III and HTC One X :x
Anyway, Galaxy S II is a total winner
Edit: oh, for music Poweramp +1
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Yah this phone is amazing. The speed and screen is just amazing.
Yah all the crap that sony puts on their phones is just a waste. Like that dumb TimeScape. Who uses that, total waste.
I don't know why people keep complaining about the SGS2's plastic feel. I think it feels fine and very sturdy.

CM9
If you want an even better experience, try CM9. No other mobile OS comes even close to stock Ice Cream Sandwich.
I can proudly show off the phone to other people now, its that good. Not that I like to show off but if I have to I won't mind.

I've been using Amazon MP3 for music and its quite a good player, its free has a reasonable widget and has lock screen controls. Plus I can buy music through it.

So I bought an S5

So after 6 months with the Z1 I left it for and S5. Well actually my girlfriend dropped her nexus 5 in the sink and it didn't make. After playing with all the new phones I settled on the the S5. So far I do really like it but I still hate touchwiz as much as I did on my Note 2. This time they really screwed up the settings menu and it's just so hard to look at.
The things I like about the S5
screen is much nicer
fits better in my hand and is more comfortable to hold
heart rate monitor lol joking useless to me
I like having my menu buttons built into the phone so there is less space used on the screen although 4.4 help sony in this regard
removable battery
wireless charging
I have an unlockable bootloader ( my fault for buying the Z1 from a carrier)
Thing I miss from the Z!
Metal and glass construction
I found the camera to be slightly better than the S5
Camera button
walkman app ( I really liked that app)
Sony's skin is much less intrusive
Performance comparison
To tell you the truth despite the S5 having a newer processor I found the Z1 to have a little less hiccups and I'm sure touchwiz is to blame here.
My recommendation for switching if your thinking about it. Unless you really find the Z1's screen that bad I would stick with the Z1. I am happy with my S5 and overall I do like a little more than my Z1 but really its new so I'm not sure if I'm still in the honeymoon phase.
Any questions feel free to ask

Glad you found a phone you can like more,,
And from my experience playing around with my cousin's S5, i found all the same things you dont like from S5...
Freaking weird setting menu, slightly worse camera (faster focus, yes -- slightly, but stuttering UI and slower shutter), UI hiccups, and the 'isthisthingevenworking' heart rate monitor
I do found the screen to be really gorgeous, but to my hands, both Z1 and S5 are comfy in my grip.. Probably because i have big hands
I also tried to remove the back cover and sure it reminds me of Xperia ZR, but with thinner and smaller rubber shields which worries me
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Galaxy S5
http://imgur.com/7wLRWWG
Taken in 16mp 4:3
My Z1
http://imgur.com/1443mpB
Taken in 20mp 4:3
As you can see, S5 seems to have bigger focal length than Z1.. It shows from how much Z1 captures a bit more than S5 since those were taken from the same spot
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zegun said:
Glad you found a phone you can like more,,
And from my experience playing around with my cousin's S5, i found all the same things you dont like from S5...
Freaking weird setting menu, slightly worse camera (faster focus, yes -- slightly, but stuttering UI and slower shutter), UI hiccups, and the 'isthisthingevenworking' heart rate monitor
I do found the screen to be really gorgeous, but to my hands, both Z1 and S5 are comfy in my grip.. Probably because i have big hands
I also tried to remove the back cover and sure it reminds me of Xperia ZR, but with thinner and smaller rubber shields which worries me
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Galaxy S5
http://imgur.com/7wLRWWG
Taken in 16mp 4:3
My Z1
http://imgur.com/1443mpB
Taken in 20mp 4:3
As you can see, S5 seems to have bigger focal length than Z1.. It shows from how much Z1 captures a bit more than S5 since those were taken from the same spot
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so is it worth getting s5 ??

I would say no, unless you hate your screen on the z1 which I didn't find that bad
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Bleh s5 should probably get play edition as soon as they figure out how to implement the heart rate monitor or the fingerprint scan, because look at the z ultra play edition, it has x reality in the settings lol

LaosPerson said:
Bleh s5 should probably get play edition as soon as they figure out how to implement the heart rate monitor or the fingerprint scan, because look at the z ultra play edition, it has x reality in the settings lol
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Honestly I could care less about either one of those features my GF is a nurse I'll get her to check my pulse lol, the fingerprint scanner has been flaky in my experience doesn't work good one handed which is useless to me. Only thing is the S5 has a knox on it and a counter so you trip it in you flash custom recovery rumor has it that voids your warranty but on the upside there will be a way more active development community for the S5.

bodson66 said:
Honestly I could care less about either one of those features my GF is a nurse I'll get her to check my pulse lol, the fingerprint scanner has been flaky in my experience doesn't work good one handed which is useless to me. Only thing is the S5 has a knox on it and a counter so you trip it in you flash custom recovery rumor has it that voids your warranty but on the upside there will be a way more active development community for the S5.
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The note 3 looked kinda dead lol, but for tmobile might be completely different since the bootloader is unlocked, but knox still gets in the way
But interesting that the s5 should have more devolpment

LaosPerson said:
The note 3 looked kinda dead lol, but for tmobile might be completely different since the bootloader is unlocked, but knox still gets in the way
But interesting that the s5 should have more devolpment
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Ya I'm not sure about american carriers but I think only Verizon locks the bootloader not sure though, either way it seems like it is getting harder and harder to flash roms and do what you like with these new phones. I really wanted the oppo find 7 but it was on back order and needed a phone

bodson66 said:
So after 6 months with the Z1 I left it for and S5. Well actually my girlfriend dropped her nexus 5 in the sink and it didn't make. After playing with all the new phones I settled on the the S5. So far I do really like it but I still hate touchwiz as much as I did on my Note 2. This time they really screwed up the settings menu and it's just so hard to look at.
The things I like about the S5
screen is much nicer
fits better in my hand and is more comfortable to hold
heart rate monitor lol joking useless to me
I like having my menu buttons built into the phone so there is less space used on the screen although 4.4 help sony in this regard
removable battery
wireless charging
I have an unlockable bootloader ( my fault for buying the Z1 from a carrier)
Thing I miss from the Z!
Metal and glass construction
I found the camera to be slightly better than the S5
Camera button
walkman app ( I really liked that app)
Sony's skin is much less intrusive
Performance comparison
To tell you the truth despite the S5 having a newer processor I found the Z1 to have a little less hiccups and I'm sure touchwiz is to blame here.
My recommendation for switching if your thinking about it. Unless you really find the Z1's screen that bad I would stick with the Z1. I am happy with my S5 and overall I do like a little more than my Z1 but really its new so I'm not sure if I'm still in the honeymoon phase.
Any questions feel free to ask
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Traitor just kidding
I had the s4 and it was good but I hated the buttons... Really liked the fast settings in the statusbar though..
Does their screens still have the pink tint issue?
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HellRoot said:
Traitor just kidding
I had the s4 and it was good but I hated the buttons... Really liked the fast settings in the statusbar though..
Does their screens still have the pink tint issue?
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All my friends have Samsung and they have alot more Problems then i have with Lags, UI Hiccups and more. For me Sony is the best, i had iPhone, Samsung, Sony Ericsson and alot of Phones but since my X10 i only had Sony becouse i hate the Samsung UI and i like Sonys UI alot more then AOSP. The good thing about Sony is the Quality of the Production and the simple but nice UI, good Camera and for me the Sony Phones look alot better then Samsung. I dropped my Xperia P alot and even once when it fall down the Stairs i thought it was completly broke becouse it was more then 2 meters but had not even damaged Display, 3 of my Friends dropped their S4 from not even 1 meter and Display is broke. Another reason is i dont like Mainstream Phones that everyone has like Samsung or iPhone haha

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All my friends have Samsung and they have alot more Problems then i have with Lags, UI Hiccups and more. For me Sony is the best, i had iPhone, Samsung, Sony Ericsson and alot of Phones but since my X10 i only had Sony becouse i hate the Samsung UI and i like Sonys UI alot more then AOSP. The good thing about Sony is the Quality of the Production and the simple but nice UI, good Camera and for me the Sony Phones look alot better then Samsung. I dropped my Xperia P alot and even once when it fall down the Stairs i thought it was completly broke becouse it was more then 2 meters but had not even damaged Display, 3 of my Friends dropped their S4 from not even 1 meter and Display is broke. Another reason is i dont like Mainstream Phones that everyone has like Samsung or iPhone haha
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Samsung's UI is very ugly Nova launcher helps a bit but it is heavy and is the main cause of lag for sure. As for build quality my Xperia ZL broke after a month (mic died) then replacement lasted 2 month before the usb port broke. My xperia Z after two months of use the back glue came undone from the heat the phone produced. My Z1 has been great no complaints. They all have issues but I had less problem with my samsung devices then I did Sony just my experience. No doubt the Sony looks nicer though, and I agree I first went from samsung to sony because I wanted something everyone didn't have.

Thanks for sharing your exp. with us mate.
To be honest i cant find more attractive than Z1 for now , performance wise i am happy with it and i am loving the camera specially with i hackers mod , one question how is the build quality generally ? because i owned Note2 and the build quality was terrible.
Cheers
Vatis

vatis24 said:
Thanks for sharing your exp. with us mate.
To be honest i cant find more attractive than Z1 for now , performance wise i am happy with it and i am loving the camera specially with i hackers mod , one question how is the build quality generally ? because i owned Note2 and the build quality was terrible.
Cheers
Vatis
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The quality is the best Samsung has put together, everything feel tight ans I do like the textured back, but the Sony has more heft and I wish Samsung would have at least make the frame aluminum.

I the S4 and a tab 3 10.1, a combo that put me off Samsung for good
So i dont have a good opinion about the S5
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I the S4 and a tab 3 10.1, a combo that put me off Samsung for good
So i dont have a good opinion about the S5
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Samsung seems to be focusing on to many gimmicks rather than improving what people want most. I have yet to try a samsung tablet that I like. I work in I.T and we have never had great success with samsung tablets. As an android fan it hurt me to suggest Ipads for my company but they just worked better for what we needed. I have a Nexus 7 that I do really like. We do have a BYOD program at work and samsung's don't cause much problem but neither do most newer androids, but the fragmentation due to slow updates does cause us some headaches. Blackberries have been the worst since BB10 though.

best phone they did was the SG2 game changer.
Sticking to my z1 should last a few years and still be a good phone.

juDGEY2k10 said:
best phone they did was the SG2 game changer.
Sticking to my z1 should last a few years and still be a good phone.
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that and the note 1 I had the galaxy s then s2 and then note 1, I wish they would pool together their resources and start making some deadly exynos chips again

Before owning a Z1 I had a Xperia X10 Mini Pro and a Galaxy S4. When I decided to upgrade my old X10 Mini Pro I started to search for the best device available in the moment, I had 3 options back then, which were Xperia Z, HTC One and Galaxy S4. After reading a lot, I decided to change from Sony to other device, and many people started to pressure me to get S4 because it was Samsung. In the end I got the S4, which was an amazing device indeed, very powerful and had an amazing screen.
Back in January, my S4 broke (apparently bootloader problem ) and Samsung refused to fix it (I never asked to do the repair free of charge, actually I said I'd pay, but they still didn't want to fix it)! So, I'm staying away from Samsung after this. And when you have such a powerful device you don't want to downgrade anymore, so I started to search for a great device that would be good for me. I was between Nexus 5 and Z1, personally I'm not a big fan of LG, and the point that I already had a 32GB Sdcard from my S4 made me go for Sony again, if I have to change a device it'll surely be Sony again lol.
Now to the true comparison between S4 and Z1 (I never used a S5 before, so I decided to share what's the experience of changing from Samsung to Sony). When it comes to processing power, Z1 simply destroys S4, true, it's not fair comparing a Snapdragon 800 to a 600, but not only the processor is faster, but the OS in Z1 was optimized, so it gives you a better experience, not only Xperia UI is faster, but is way better looking that Touchwiz, which looks too colorful and somewhat "childish" to me (just my personal opinion). It takes me to another point in UI, now comparing Sony, Apple and Samsung... If you look at Apple iOS 7 design, it's all colorful like Touchwiz, personally I'm not a big fan of those colorful "happy/childish" designs, sometime back if you asked me about iOS design (before 7), I'd say it is professional looking, while Touchwiz was focused more on a different aspect. Now, if you ask me the same thing, I'd say that Xperia is the one with professional looking, while the other two are fighting for a younger fanbase probably.
In terms of holding the device, I never had a problem with either, however, I feel using my Xperia with two hands more than I think I did with S4, not that it is a problem though, as most of times I'm using the cellphone with only one hand, but, being a person with 190cm I have very big hands, which probably helps in this. The thing is that Xperia feels more premium due to the glass back, it's also more comfortable to hold feeling it like this.
And talking about the exterior characteristics of the device, there's one thing that's really funny that happens. When I owned a S4, people would look at it and ask: "Is it a S4?", and only after I answered "yes", they'd say "OMG! That's so GREAT!!". Now with Z1, they don't even know the device, they look and say "OMG! It looks amazing!! What device is it?", I never thought the device aesthetics would do much, now I know how it changes the way others will look at your cellphone.
Another thing that I need to say is about the camera and screen. I'm not a professional photographer, actually I took just a few, so the amazing Z1 camera is just a bonus for me, but I think Xperia's camera beat easily Galaxy's camera, specially having a physical button! When changing from X10 Mini Pro to S4 I actually felt a little harder to took more focused pictures without a button . And the screen is hard to compare, both have an amazing screen, but I will give the point for S4 on this one, the viewing angles were way better, however you have a display over saturated in Galaxy, which can be a little annoying, that's why I loved Sony's display .
Also, like said by someone before me, I think Samsung has many useless apps, while Z1 had apps that I actually used or if I didn't use there were just a few anyway. At least, but not last, I like the exclusivity of being a Sony user, as everyone either has an iPhone or a Samsung .
Glad to know that OP liked his new acquisition . Personally Samsung is a no go for me anymore, hope you enjoy your device ^^.
~Lord

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Before owning a Z1 I had a Xperia X10 Mini Pro and a Galaxy S4. When I decided to upgrade my old X10 Mini Pro I started to search for the best device available in the moment, I had 3 options back then, which were Xperia Z, HTC One and Galaxy S4. After reading a lot, I decided to change from Sony to other device, and many people started to pressure me to get S4 because it was Samsung. In the end I got the S4, which was an amazing device indeed, very powerful and had an amazing screen.
Back in January, my S4 broke (apparently bootloader problem ) and Samsung refused to fix it (I never asked to do the repair free of charge, actually I said I'd pay, but they still didn't want to fix it)! So, I'm staying away from Samsung after this. And when you have such a powerful device you don't want to downgrade anymore, so I started to search for a great device that would be good for me. I was between Nexus 5 and Z1, personally I'm not a big fan of LG, and the point that I already had a 32GB Sdcard from my S4 made me go for Sony again, if I have to change a device it'll surely be Sony again lol.
Now to the true comparison between S4 and Z1 (I never used a S5 before, so I decided to share what's the experience of changing from Samsung to Sony). When it comes to processing power, Z1 simply destroys S4, true, it's not fair comparing a Snapdragon 800 to a 600, but not only the processor is faster, but the OS in Z1 was optimized, so it gives you a better experience, not only Xperia UI is faster, but is way better looking that Touchwiz, which looks too colorful and somewhat "childish" to me (just my personal opinion). It takes me to another point in UI, now comparing Sony, Apple and Samsung... If you look at Apple iOS 7 design, it's all colorful like Touchwiz, personally I'm not a big fan of those colorful "happy/childish" designs, sometime back if you asked me about iOS design (before 7), I'd say it is professional looking, while Touchwiz was focused more on a different aspect. Now, if you ask me the same thing, I'd say that Xperia is the one with professional looking, while the other two are fighting for a younger fanbase probably.
In terms of holding the device, I never had a problem with either, however, I feel using my Xperia with two hands more than I think I did with S4, not that it is a problem though, as most of times I'm using the cellphone with only one hand, but, being a person with 190cm I have very big hands, which probably helps in this. The thing is that Xperia feels more premium due to the glass back, it's also more comfortable to hold feeling it like this.
And talking about the exterior characteristics of the device, there's one thing that's really funny that happens. When I owned a S4, people would look at it and ask: "Is it a S4?", and only after I answered "yes", they'd say "OMG! That's so GREAT!!". Now with Z1, they don't even know the device, they look and say "OMG! It looks amazing!! What device is it?", I never thought the device aesthetics would do much, now I know how it changes the way others will look at your cellphone.
Another thing that I need to say is about the camera and screen. I'm not a professional photographer, actually I took just a few, so the amazing Z1 camera is just a bonus for me, but I think Xperia's camera beat easily Galaxy's camera, specially having a physical button! When changing from X10 Mini Pro to S4 I actually felt a little harder to took more focused pictures without a button . And the screen is hard to compare, both have an amazing screen, but I will give the point for S4 on this one, the viewing angles were way better, however you have a display over saturated in Galaxy, which can be a little annoying, that's why I loved Sony's display .
Also, like said by someone before me, I think Samsung has many useless apps, while Z1 had apps that I actually used or if I didn't use there were just a few anyway. At least, but not last, I like the exclusivity of being a Sony user, as everyone either has an iPhone or a Samsung .
Glad to know that OP liked his new acquisition . Personally Samsung is a no go for me anymore, hope you enjoy your device ^^.
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Just to make clear I do like the S5 a lot but my main point to the thread was to give people an idea of what the next gen was like comparing it to the Z1. I agree with all your points I'm 6'4 so my hands are big and neither devices is that easy to use one handed. Although I do like how samsung puts the back button on the right. Despite sony having some odd hicups with software there skin is way better and way nicer to look at.
The main reason I made this thread was for people to ask some questions and mostly to tell people not get envious of the new phones. My gf has my Z1 now and I still miss it. Performance in benchmarks are better on the S5 but as the saying goes that means nothing. I turned off all the animation on my S5 so the UI would be more fluid and that says a lot about Samsungs UI. Basically the only things that really makes me feel like I improved on is the screen. I am photographer and both cameras are good for the small sensor size but the sony camera app is way better. I use mostly pentax K3 and K2IIs for most my shooting and just bough the Sony A7r and I can tell sony has been really pushing advancement in the full frame camera world. I too like you switched to sony because everyone had a samsung and I wanted something different, If the Z2 was availible here to buy I would have gotten that one

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Just to make clear I do like the S5 a lot but my main point to the thread was to give people an idea of what the next gen was like comparing it to the Z1. I agree with all your points I'm 6'4 so my hands are big and neither devices is that easy to use one handed. Although I do like how samsung puts the back button on the right. Despite sony having some odd hicups with software there skin is way better and way nicer to look at.
The main reason I made this thread was for people to ask some questions and mostly to tell people not get envious of the new phones. My gf has my Z1 now and I still miss it. Performance in benchmarks are better on the S5 but as the saying goes that means nothing. I turned off all the animation on my S5 so the UI would be more fluid and that says a lot about Samsungs UI. Basically the only things that really makes me feel like I improved on is the screen. I am photographer and both cameras are good for the small sensor size but the sony camera app is way better. I use mostly pentax K3 and K2IIs for most my shooting and just bough the Sony A7r and I can tell sony has been really pushing advancement in the full frame camera world. I too like you switched to sony because everyone had a samsung and I wanted something different, If the Z2 was availible here to buy I would have gotten that one
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Hi,
I get what your thread was, sorry if I went off topic . I saw some people sharing their experiences with other Samsung devices and I felt inspired myself hehe. I didn't intend to rant at Samsung, S5 or anyone, just a personal opinion .
For Sony camera app I completely know what you mean! When I installed a custom ROM on my X10 Mini Pro I really felt the lack of the camera app hahaha! And now Z1 is great for me, reminds me of a Cybershot camera (you know, those small ones).
By the way, I ended up forgetting to ask a question . I saw some pics of S5 and it looked a little bulky, do you feel the difference in it? Also much do you think they've improved from the older devices build? Because personally I didn't like build quality of S4, specially after some time the back started to get scratched, but I did like how the bezels were small, which I think they didn't do in S5...
~Lord

Will you be getting rid of your phone?

Just wondering if you will be getting rid of your Xperia phone now that Xperia is gone.

Xperia is not gone yet. Even if Sony sells the division, we don't know what will change.

Why would we sell the phone just because of that?

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Just wondering if you will be getting rid of your Xperia phone now that Xperia is gone.
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Now that it's gone??
O really is it!? Source!
It's been only rumors and you're acting as if anything conclusive has been said.
And even if Xperia is gone, so what. We're on XDA where we can make our own ROM's. Many of us payed +400$ for their devices, it's not as if we have another 400+ just laying around to buy another phone.

Ok so following your reasoning I should get rid of my Nokia 3210?

I was just wondering because there could be a lack of future updates/support and whatnot depending on how and where the division ends up. This is my first Android experience and don't want to mess with custom ROMs and stuff (at least for now).

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No, of course not! I would not sell this phone as there's no better option from any other manufacturers at this format, and I really like the phone.

No reasons until it's working and specially if the community is still active on it. In my optinion one of the best phone ever.

Oh snap I best sell my house quick because the brick company has gone.. Doh!
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I was just wondering because there could be a lack of future updates/support and whatnot depending on how and where the division ends up. This is my first Android experience and don't want to mess with custom ROMs and stuff (at least for now).
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Sony said the phone will get the Lollipop update, in addition an Xperia Z4 should be released (and the last one according to the rumor) that mean that for at a least a year updates should come. Then even if it is not updated to the next major release of Android (after Lollipop) and the community do not make a custom ROM it will still be fine with upcoming apps for another year or so. Also the Z3 uses widely spread components (Qualcomm SOC) so it should not be that are to adapt a custom ROM for it.

Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.

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Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.
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heartbreaking, yes because Sony is the only one to make a phone like the Z3C but that news isn't a reason to change. The Z3C is or is not a good phone for you when you brought it.

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heartbreaking, yes because Sony is the only one to make a phone like the Z3C but that news isn't a reason to change. The Z3C is or is not a good phone for you when you brought it.
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That's exactly what I'm taking about. Sony is one of the few manufacturers who doesn't do much sh1t like curving screen/ultra saturated color/huge display which results in half day battery life. These crap are good for catching eyes and advertising. But still basically just pure crap for common use. And surprisingly those manufacturers are selling millions of cheap plastic crappie devices with marketing. That's the most heartbreaking part of this whole situation. I almost lost faith in humanity. Damn.

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"WILL be getting rid of your Xperia phone NOW"
Hmm... I don't quite understand the future and present tense meant together in the same sentence.
Surely everyone WILL get rid of their phones at one point or another. Nothing lasts forever and I'm sure there will be many phone in the future that everyone of us will like better than the Z3C.
With the current technology and design available, the Z3C isn't combined of all the best. Weak construction with plastic frame, poor display quality, weak water proofing flaps and worst of all is Sony ecosystem bloatwares which have users constantly connected to Sony store while already being connected to Google store, for the same thing at the same price. The Z3C system size together with bloatwares is almost twice as large as vanilla Android. Another headache with DRM keys for the mediocre performance camera on TA partition when unlock the bootloader.
For the NOW, I would get rid of it ASAP if it wasn't rooted. I'm sure in a few months, there will be some better phones.

i would sooner get rid of my swimsuit supermodel rocket scientist girlfriend than this phone.
this is the first Android phone i've owned where i didn't feel a compelling reason to immediately slap a mod on or otherwise tinker with, especially after my experience with Samsung phones. (well, besides the volume of the loudspeaker, which i expect to fix after i root.) Sony's skin has some really useful, well though out touches, so i've left it stock. i have no issues with the camera, and no cracked glass or other manufacturing faults. and after all the plastic crap that is a typical Android phone, the industrial design is really refreshing and attractive. i like the walkman, movie, and album apps (again, much better than Samsung or HTC equivalents), and the BATTERY LIFE IS INSANE. not having to charge for four, five, six days? AWESOME.

I won't. Everything stock and im perfectly happy.

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Apparently the community find nothing valuable in discussing this.
I personally find it very heartbreaking of this news from Sony.
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Heartbreaking news from Sony???? Nothing conclusive has been said and nothing has been said at all by Sony. This topic is only based on speculations and rumors.
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Mine is going for sure. As soon as S6 comes out (assuming no glaring faults in that)
Its an ugly little phone for starters, the construction choices are poor, glass is not cool. I would much prefer nexus 5/moto x plastic. mUch better.
Camera/camera software is terrible.
Battery is ... at best ok. Using it just as a phone, calls and texts and a bit of whatsapp. Its really good. Using anything else, games, maps etc its awful.
Screen... not bad. Amoled is better though.
Since the new root I have gone from I dont like it to its not a bad little thing. But its not enough.
Im not surprised they are pulling the pin to be honest.

jarayn said:
Mine is going for sure. As soon as S6 comes out (assuming no glaring faults in that)
Its an ugly little phone for starters, the construction choices are poor, glass is not cool. I would much prefer nexus 5/moto x plastic. mUch better.
Camera/camera software is terrible.
Battery is ... at best ok. Using it just as a phone, calls and texts and a bit of whatsapp. Its really good. Using anything else, games, maps etc its awful.
Screen... not bad. Amoled is better though.
Since the new root I have gone from I dont like it to its not a bad little thing. But its not enough.
Im not surprised they are pulling the pin to be honest.
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Sorry to hear this, but are you sure you are not using an actual brick as phone?
If you have issues with games and maps (maps!) I think you should get your unit checked, might be that it's faulty. On battery life you don't have to take my word, just read any review site that you want and they will tell you that it's among the best (if not the best) that you can get now - get your device checked buddy!