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I've had my G2 for about a week now and love it so far.
But there is one issue which irritates me, the camera. It does take a good picture and I like the 60fps 1080p. But these work best outside or in really good light.
I tried to take a video of my 11 month old son with the camera indoor and I noticed that even at 60fps, the framerate on the screen could not be more than about 20. The picture quality was not good either, lacking detail, blurry.
This translates to pictures too and perhaps the most annoying feature. When taking pictures the camera just takes ages to snap that picture. I tried to capture a moment of my son and after pressing the shutter button, I counted to 5 before the shot was taken. No good for those moments you want to capture.
Any ideas to any of this? Is it by design? Or is my phone faulty?
Change to 4K/2160p in Quality Settings! The only real compression is on youtube's side. And I will say I see a little better quality on my Master File than on youtube.
I decided to test the 4k video recording on the Nexus 6 by shooting my entire vacation with it. I've compiled a recap video showcasing the camera's abilities.
-There conditions recorded in are: high light, low light, sunny, overcast, indoors and outdoors, etc.
-I've zoomed in a few times and moved the phone to force refocus in a few clips.
-There has been NO post editing to the footage such as color correction, cropping, stabilizing, etc.
-Crossfading, fade to black, muting of audio, and title overlays are the only alterations made to compile this video
ENJOY!
Looks like OIS keeps making things a bit juttery and focusing in and out at times.
knitler said:
Looks like OIS keeps making things a bit juttery and focusing in and out at times.
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Yes Google camera does that. Same on nexus 5
rootSU said:
Yes Google camera does that. Same on nexus 5
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Does using another camera app prevent it?
knitler said:
Does using another camera app prevent it?
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I've never tried. I doubt it
Then it's a hardware issue I assume.
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Then it's a hardware issue I assume.
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No... But 3rd party cameras are not a complete solution. They use the existing libs and camera HAL etc, which is software.
But you can try it, who knows?
i need to look around to see if there are any apps that lock focus.
That would come in handy
Robert_W said:
i need to look around to see if there are any apps that lock focus.
That would come in handy
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Try with Cinema FV-5
I watched the whole thing before realizing my monitor at work isn't 4K
nice video - I'll have to watch it later at home to really see the quality. The focusing issue sucks and is really pronounced on this phone, I wonder if L Camera is any better at it.
springer.music said:
Try with Cinema FV-5
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I have that app in my wish list. Gotta do some more research to see if it offers what I want. I prefer simplicity like the stock app is designed, but I don't think google will ever include these especiall features.. Including 60/120/240 fps.
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Try with Cinema FV-5
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camera focus doesnt seem to be an issue with cinema fv-5. pretty sure its an android issue as my nexus 5 had the same problem (as mentioned above). anyway i just shot a few minutes of 4k video w cinema fv-5 and i dont see any re-focusing nonsense going on
rman18 said:
I watched the whole thing before realizing my monitor at work isn't 4K
nice video - I'll have to watch it later at home to really see the quality.
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Did you get to watch it in all its glory? Lol
Cinema FV-5 seems to fix the constant jittery focus issue. Wish I make this video test in that app instead
Manual Camera is, by far, the most feature-packed camera app for the Nexus 6. Full support with the new camera API's too ?
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Manual Camera is, by far, the most feature-packed camera app for the Nexus 6. Full support with the new camera API's too
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fv5 supports the new apis as well. i read manual camera has issues. like you can't zoom and theres no way to switch between front and rear cameras...
but on topic, does manual camera support video recording?
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fv5 supports the new apis as well.
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I hope they add 60/120 fps soon. That's the only camera feature I really want
Open camera supports everything people!!!! Just downloaded it and is now my default camera!!!! It support all resolutions for stills and recording, shows amount of memory left in real time, and a lot of other things and you get really check the options for a lot and best part of all its open source!!! So always free and never ad filled, I think Google should have hired this guy to make their camera app!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
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I started watching the video on my phone, then decided to stream it to my 42 inch flat screen tv to check out the quality on a larger scale, and then realized my 42 inch TV is lower resolution than my phone as a result. lol!
i was recently looking around for other camera apps so as to see how the device's ability to shoot in RAW compares to various cameras. I was considering trying FV5 but was checking out the free alternatives first.
I tried L Camera, which did let me adjust ISO, white balance, and so on, but it had some pretty major issues that need to be worked out still.
While I haven't tried FV5 yet (so I can't say much about that app specifically) I just tried out Open Camera (the above post caused me to remember it showing up in the app store several times while I was browsing) and wowee it's actually really good so far. Only one bug so far that I've encountered and it's very minor. The customization and various settings are really well thought out.
It says it can do 60/120 fps with a disclaimer that it may not always reach the designated fps if the hardware doesn't support it..so maybe?
auto-focus seemed quite a bit faster compared to google's stock camera app and it's much easier to adjust the lighting quickly than any other camera apps I've tried so far.
Right now the only thing I can really find "wrong" with it is the overall design and layout of the app, but it's not poorly designed at all.
I'll be using Open Camera as my default camera app until a major flaw presents itself or google amps up it's own app to compete. Very pleasantly surprised so far.
Robert_W said:
Change to 4K/2160p in Quality Settings! The only real compression is on youtube's side. And I will say I see a little better quality on my Master File than on youtube.
I decided to test the 4k video recording on the Nexus 6 by shooting my entire vacation with it. I've compiled a recap video showcasing the camera's abilities.
-There conditions recorded in are: high light, low light, sunny, overcast, indoors and outdoors, etc.
-I've zoomed in a few times and moved the phone to force refocus in a few clips.
-There has been NO post editing to the footage such as color correction, cropping, stabilizing, etc.
-Crossfading, fade to black, muting of audio, and title overlays are the only alterations made to compile this video
ENJOY!
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Awesome video and very helpful. Thank you.
I've been using the Galaxy S8 Plus until I received my solar red U11 yesterday (glad I waited, it's very nice looking). Anyway, I am very impressed with the photo image quality of the phone (it is very comparable to the S8), but I have a few nitpicks about the video recording:
1) No 1080p/60 mode. I really don't understand why it doesn't have a 60fps mode when even phones from 2016 had it? It has 1080p/30 and 1080p/120 (for slow motion), so why no 1080/60? Is it overheating concern?
2) No way to turn of EIS in 1080p video recording mode? While 1080p is very stable due to its combined OIS and EIS, it also crops the view significantly when recording video in this mode (compare it to 4k, which is quite a bit wider but has no EIS). Anyway, the EIS is nice if you want that, but I think there needs to be a toggle or option to turn off EIS and have the wide recording mode in 1080p that is like the 4k mode. As it stands, there does not appear to be a way to change this.
3) 6 minute recording limit in 4k. I guess it's also due to overheating concerns, but why not just make it unlimited and have the phone's temperature monitoring stop recording automatically if it gets to a certain temp? Some people are reporting overheating stoppages even before the 6 minutes, but in cooler environments, we may be able to record indefinitely in 4k.
Things I DO like about the U11's camera though...
1) Photo app and quality are excellent. Nice Pro mode too.
2) Glad I can lock exposure and focus during video recording very easily.
3) Focusing pulling with the touch screen is very nice on the U11 (it doesn't rock back and forth when focusing like many other phone cameras).
4) Audio recording options are very nice (3d audio vs hi-res, and acoustic focus)
https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/
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https://www.xda-developers.com/htc-u11-updates-srgb-1080p60/
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Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!
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Thanks! It's good to see that they are working on adding 1080p/60, though it appears to be a ways off.
Another thing that bothers me (when compared to the S8 or iPhone 7) is that I can't seem to take a photo while recording in 4k. I'm not sure if that's a software or hardware limitation, but I used that all the time on those phones. I really like using the squeeze to open the camera, take a photo, and switch between front and rear cameras though!
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Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.
I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged
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Try Open Camera on XDA, it works shooting 1080P without EIS and no time length limitation on 4K.
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It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).
wilpang said:
I've also see the same issue on the HTC 10 in regards to the 4k and taking a photo while recording if you can call it an issue. I suppose no one had complained about it and they left it unchanged
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I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.
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It's a nice camera app, thanks. Tried various settings in the app for video recording. Looks like no matter what framerate you choose, it can't go above 30fps. I thought maybe it would let me shoot 1080p/60, but nope (even when setting it to 60fps, it still records at 30). Also doesn't seem to be a way to take a photo while shooting video in this app? Nice that you can shoot longer than 6 minutes in 4k though (I didn't try it yet, but I assume it works).
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60fps will come with one of the next OTA updates.
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I call it an "issue" only because I have come to expect it when shooting video now. In fact, I used it quite frequently on my iPhone and Galaxy S8. Being able to take a photo without interrupting the video recording is a pretty important feature, in my opinion. I suppose one could load up the video in software and capture a frame manually, but it's a feature that other flagships have, so I miss it.
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Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.
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Indeed, my old year 2012 HTC One S supported shooting FHD video and taking a real photo at the same time and I owned a Galaxy S6 support that feature too. However, I think during 4K recording that no phone could take a real photo, all they do is just capture a frame from video clip and pretend that is a photo.
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Right, I understand it's not an actual "photo" at the highest resolution, but I would still like the convenience of capturing a frame during 4k video recording like I can on all of the other flagships phones.
Wow I'm glad I found this post, I thought I was going crazy with the issues you mentioned, especially the cropped 1080p video! I hope they can fix that with the 60fps update, because it is really annoying.
Hi, 60fps still not possible?
vojta20vt said:
Hi, 60fps still not possible?
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1080p60 is being introduced in stock ROMs with versions 1.26 and higher.
Do you know if EIS for 4k video is planned? Thinking about buying the U11 instead of the much too expensive Pixel 2, but the lack of EIS in this case is a bit of a bummer.
I am really considering pulling the trigger on buying this phone. The photo quality seems to be okay now but the video stabilization just sucks.
Is this really how bad and jerky the video is?
Here are a few youtube links.
https://youtu.be/DhohsgddVQg
https://youtu.be/wzvvijuACvU?t=5m19s
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1080p seems a bit better but the focus doesn't work quickly.
https://youtu.be/cZLClyWcGe4
choder said:
I am really considering pulling the trigger on buying this phone. The photo quality seems to be okay now but the video stabilization just sucks.
Is this really how bad and jerky the video is?
Here are a few youtube links.
https://youtu.be/DhohsgddVQg
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1080p seems a bit better but the focus doesn't work quickly.
https://youtu.be/cZLClyWcGe4
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Yes, the stock camera app has horrible EIS
Some say opencamera has better software for video stabilization, but have not tried it myself
Can anyone confirm if the Google camera port makes the video stabilization usable?
If anyone has video from another app besides the stock camera I would like to see EIS actually working.
From the lack of responses, the video stability is just terrible. That's just too bad, I really wanted to purchase this phone, but I can't justify purchasing it with this poor video. I thought about the option of always uploading to YouTube and stabilizing it, but that's just too much of a hassle.
Maybe in the next software update it will fix the stability problems.
I guess using google photos app to stabilize the video might be a solution. https://goo.gl/Lt5oRu
I tried three camera apps--the stock (v 0.1.082), Google's camera app from the app store and Google's stock camera app posted here. The highest acuity was achieved with the stock Essential phone app. The two Google apps were about the same.
I'm not a camera guy so I won't recommend on app over the other for color or vibrancy or bokeh. I checked hand-held stability by photographing pictures on a wall 10' away, framed together with objects 2 to 7 feet away. I selected the framed art 10' away for focus. Later, for photos taken with each of the three apps, I zoomed in on the wall-hanging pictures. The three apps all had some artifacting of the framed images.
But in the photo taken with the Essential app I noticed a light switch below the paintings. Clear above that switch holding it to the wall was a screw, bisected by a dark groove that was angled about 10 degrees off horizontal.
Although the switch and screw was noticeable in shots of all three apps, only in the photo taken with the Essential stock app was the screwdriver groove so clear.
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I tried three camera apps--the stock (v 0.1.082), Google's camera app from the app store and Google's stock camera app posted here. The highest acuity was achieved with the stock Essential phone app. The two Google apps were about the same.
I'm not a camera guy so I won't recommend on app over the other for color or vibrancy or bokeh. I checked hand-held stability by photographing pictures on a wall 10' away, framed together with objects 2 to 7 feet away. I selected the framed art 10' away for focus. Later, for photos taken with each of the three apps, I zoomed in on the wall-hanging pictures. The three apps all had some artifacting of the framed images.
But in the photo taken with the Essential app I noticed a light switch below the paintings. Clear above that switch holding it to the wall was a screw, bisected by a dark groove that was angled about 10 degrees off horizontal.
Although the switch and screw was noticeable in shots of all three apps, only in the photo taken with the Essential stock app was the screwdriver groove so clear.
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I am interested in the EIS of the video and if the google camera port improves the terrible shaky video. Its hard to believe the video from this phone is so bad.
I understand but I can't help much. It may be that stock Google camera apps and/or Essential's latest camera app includes EIS but my 'testing' wasn't structured to reveal anything except its adequacy for my uses--recording mechanical details of projects, before and after, and the occasional happy grandchild.
A70 is so nice I almost pulled the trigger on it, when during testing I noticed... huh? No Motion Picture in photos?
I checked Samsung's page and it's true, there is no Motion Picture for A-series phones.
I know it doesn't sound like a big deal, but with 2 small kids this feature (I'm using SGS7 now) paid itself in gold - not the moving part, but the fact that I can effortlessly "rewind time". Those with children know that they can do something magical for few seconds, and by the time you snapped photo it's already gone - well, with Motion Photo the phone is saving sensor output from camera app start. This means that I can trigger camera when puling the phone from my pocket, aim, snap photo, then rewind 3 frames back and save THAT picture.
I tested Gcam and while it has similar feature, it's not nearly as polished - first, Samsung's saves frames only BEFORE snapping the photo, second, it's much more difficult to crop single frame, third - the picture quality of Samsung Motion Photo is far, far superior compared to that from Gcam.
So my question is - is this app or processing system limitation? If it's the app, is it possible to use camera app from e.g. SGS10 to get Motion Picture?
Maybe we should wait for a camera app port from s10 to get motion photo and also to get pro mode
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A70 is so nice I almost pulled the trigger on it, when during testing I noticed... huh? No Motion Picture in photos?
I checked Samsung's page and it's true, there is no Motion Picture for A-series phones.
I know it doesn't sound like a big deal, but with 2 small kids this feature (I'm using SGS7 now) paid itself in gold - not the moving part, but the fact that I can effortlessly "rewind time". Those with children know that they can do something magical for few seconds, and by the time you snapped photo it's already gone - well, with Motion Photo the phone is saving sensor output from camera app start. This means that I can trigger camera when puling the phone from my pocket, aim, snap photo, then rewind 3 frames back and save THAT picture.
I tested Gcam and while it has similar feature, it's not nearly as polished - first, Samsung's saves frames only BEFORE snapping the photo, second, it's much more difficult to crop single frame, third - the picture quality of Samsung Motion Photo is far, far superior compared to that from Gcam.
So my question is - is this app or processing system limitation? If it's the app, is it possible to use camera app from e.g. SGS10 to get Motion Picture?
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It's an app limitation. You can use other cam apps from play store for motion picture though.
I've installed Gcam (google photos apk) and I can make Motion Photos with it. It's a shame samsung does not update A70 firmware to be able to make these too.
Just make sure you install a compatible Gcam version. Not all of them are. Search google for "a70 gcam" and you'll find one which is compatible.
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Francis
http://cyanogenmods.org/galaxy-a70-google-camera-7-0/
Thanks a lot Sklks.