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We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
Edit by Chainfire:
Please note various Q&A from the i9000 (unlocked European version) FAQ may still be relevant to your device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
ryukent said:
Is there any way for them to be all under the same parent forum on the tree so that we don't get heavy fragmentation in discussions? It would make it easier for people to find threads that were for other Galaxy S derived devices that also affected them, but were posted in the other forums.
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This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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+1.
Agreed.
Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Can we fight with the other Galaxy S varieties for supremacy?
NOOO MY GALAYX IS TEH BESHTESTT!!!1!!1!one!!eleven
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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Obi-Wan: I have to admit that without the SGS varieties, it would have not been a victory.
Yoda: Victory? Victory you say? Master Obi-Wan, not victory. The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the SGS War has.
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This is the best post I have ever seen on XDA.
INeedYourHelp said:
What was the point in the poll if popular vote didn't matter?
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to look through them all
GG to my laziness
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/Twerd.
No point in separating everything....
-bZj
I liked the idea of different development forums And keeping everything else unified. I don't remember any of htc wm phones being separated by carrier. Why separate all of the galaxies?
Rawat said:
This. It will be a pain to trawl through 5 different threads for Themes and Apps for example, which will be the same for all devices.
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The Themes and Apps sections will indeed have some redundancy, and we may remove those forums except from the main Galaxy S I9000. Then the trouble becomes that people will post about themes and apps with the OTHER forums like General, etc. So, we'll have to play it by ear and see how things go!
Keep the forums separate, but how about having a universal Themes and Apps topics all linked to the main one here?
can we have all the varieties themes and apps page link to the galaxy s one? Accessories and ROM dev. is nice to have separated but general and apps do not. If a thread poster feels it is phone specific he can just state the variant in the title no?
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We heard from a lot of users and moderators on the issue of whether to put all Galaxy S forums under one roof or to offer separate forums for them all.
For the sake of keeping confusion to a minimum plus ensuring that XDA stays as organized as possible, we've officially decided to launch forums for all four variants of the Galaxy S. We expect these four devices (plus the unlocked Galaxy S) to be very popular devices once they're on sale.
Here are the links!
Sprint Epic 4G
AT&T Captivate
T-Mobile Vibrant
Verizon Fascinate
This forum will be for the unlocked European version of the Galaxy S that has been on sale since June.
Thanks to everyone!
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So the admins decided to go against the popular vote? Marvelous.
crabby
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
Separate forums of the SAME device by US carriers??? WTF?
Disagree... completely.
magicdroid said:
sorry.. but bad move to create separate forums... we now have to check 5 forums to find what we want.
this reminds me of the G1/Magic32B/Magic32A forums where nearly all development and modding was posted in the G1 forum (dev device), leaving the Magic forums abandoned, or full of links to G1 forum posts for those with 32B radios.
I predict that the Vibrant & Euro unlocked S will be the most used devices, leaving the other forums as good as empty or posted with stuff like "I found this on the Vibrant/S forum".
what about the forum search? will we now need to search all forums? increases the load right?
anyway.. last time I checked the poll regarding this, most of the users voted for seperate SUB forums.. did this change so drastically in the last weeks?
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Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
reuthermonkey said:
Precisely.
I see no reason for 5 separate forums. I think a much better idea would have to have a single GalaxyS forum, and add subforums for specific variants as the need arises (if it ever does).
Having 5 forums just wastes everyone's time. It even makes searching useless .
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What amazing is they ask for a vote then go against it WTF
I think it would have been best to make them all in 1 forum and then have a sub forums for GSM and CDMA...
or make a sub forum for each device and a main forum for all of them to have a General...
cause there are many issues people are talking about in the Vibrant and the I9000 which are EXACTLY the same...
not to mention we need some stickies with common issues and questions..
On a similar note. The Samsung Vibrant or Galaxy S similar to the european version has 4 haptic buttons whereas the latter has only 2 and the
Big plastic intergrated middle button. Is this something people would prefer and would it be beneficial in the long run of android where it would
have been if the phone was to run windows 7.
BTW.... I Am not pleased that the American market also shipped this with the Avatar Film pre-installed...LOL!
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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.
I would like to see this as well.
I support this!
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.
+1 .....10 char
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
115 Yes
7 No
Wow...
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
I just hope my sticky stays a sticky
jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same
As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.
I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.
yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada
Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.
I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.
kizer said:
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.
Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Yes this is exactly what we need. Since the poll is positive, when will we see the forums merge together?
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Great idea. I voted in the orignal thread.
They did it with so many other phones, why not the galaxy s series?
I don't get it, and not many do. I came from the touch pro series and it doesn't bother me to have separate subs; rapheal is a great example of how it works out to combine em in one.
Sent from my captivate
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as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
This would help a lot!
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
NickMl said:
I'd be okay with merging the Vibrant, Captivate, and that Verizon model, but I feel that the Galaxy S is too different in both hardware and software to merge it. Do we really want to be dealing with people who flashed the wrong ROM that was in the same forum?
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Actually we have more similarities with the Galaxy S then the Vibrant and Captivate >.>
If you read the post the Development forums will have separate subforums for device specific stuff...but things like General and etc will be merged so more people will be able to assist you..our device are pretty much 95%-99% identical.
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
it. said:
I think its a pretty good idea. We don't want development scattered. United we stand strong!
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yup! and more development = win for us all...
Please make this happen!
*Flashed back to the Hero forum before they where separate* Horrible Idea wanting to put CDMA and GSM phones in the same area - many a Hero where sent to an early grave by mixing the Dev boards for these 2. Someone posts a GSM radio update and a CDMA guy gets it thinking "Hey, what the Hell, couldn't hurt!" and there goes their $500.00 phone. Then they something about having insurance replace it and a huge debate starts over insurance fraud. And I've been told that insurance on the Epic is a one time use, then they drop it and you are Ef'd on a second one.
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices. Also, with the hardware differences on a kernel level I have to think this would be a developer nightmare. As active as all 5 boards are already, there would be no way to keep up as a community to help each other out. Your thread would be buried in 10 minutes and we would have to deal with 5 times as many people asking stupid "Which rom is the best" or "How do I root my phone" questions without searching.
Kcarpenter said:
So consider this my vote against a huge forum of all GS devices.
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The proposition includes having separate development forums for each device. Only the General and Apps forums would be combined. Check out the link in the OP for more info.
lol wouldn't it be funny if they all merged and than the other Galaxy S phones want to divorce from the Epic because of no Tv-Out.
"They're mutants!!!"
sorry about the cross forum posting guys, but until we get this other issue solved
Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
this is the only way to keep in touch across the separate forums
Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc].
These standards make things much more orgnized overall and looking at this section sort of brings me back to when I was using the HTC Universal forum
I'm sure I will eventually find my way and learn to get used to going back to less standards, mostly because im sooo looking forward to getting the GS2 so everything else is second
Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply
GRiM-UK said:
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc]
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We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...
Kailkti said:
Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply
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Then I guess your illiterate.
peachpuff said:
We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...
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That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
2 good things about the HD2 forum is 1) Its huge amount of dedicated developer following and 2) Its organization. Even though I visit the forum daily so know which topics are new/updated its nice to see a standard topic title naming convention with date/type/title, That way you can see clearly from browse page which are updated topics with regards to builds instead of dates/titles been in random sequence.
Either way I'll have to learn to adapt back to this random naming as GS2 will be my daily device soon. However I wont miss my HD2 simply because it wont be going anywhere, I will still be using it to try new roms and also as a great backup.
I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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HoustonsBirdman said:
I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
PS. Just want to add, I'm also a Galaxy Tab 7 user and that forum also (for the most part) keeps to a standard way of titling topics so its going to be hard to getting used to the dev sections here.
GRiM-UK said:
Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
Unfortunately many posters will not follow the rules and post questions in the wrong section .
We also have a greater share of idiotic repeat posts fails to use search posters .
Roms are labelled but they are often updated frequently within that thread and even have kernel changes .
Not saying i disagree with your viewpoint but suggest you contact the mods re your suggestion .
Noobs do find it hard to navigate .
jje
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Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.
GRiM-UK said:
That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
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That was a joke, we have a sense of humor here in the gs2 section
crachel summed it up pretty nicely.
GRiM-UK said:
Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
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Hey GRiM-UK, if you're coming from the HD2 and have used Hyperdroid, we've got pongster and doctorcete working their magic here yet again. It evolved into something different considering ROMs here are mostly based on stock (Some AOSP, MIUI and CM also) because of proprietary drivers which source isn't always available for sadly...
It does take some getting used to, as I do agree the HD2 forums were easier to understand (And less noobish to me), but you know... Sometimes you have to move on. haha. I mostly read the general page and the original android page, but the decent information a tad all over the place... So good luck!
crachel said:
Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.
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I think you misunderstand, Im very familiar with what a Rom and Kernel is and their tags etc and am not a n00b who gets confused.
I'm simply saying that it really benefits the forum when each release has a date tag at beginning of topic title instead of in random position or not at all. It means that all dates are in same line and each release is easily distinguishable by build date an you can check for updates at a glance and not rely on remembering all the version numbers.
Its a really small thing that makes a huge difference, Ill probably end up getting used to not having them but atm its really hard adjusting. The HD2 section is just far superior in organization imho.
For example checkout the HD2 NAND section compare to the Dev sectiosn here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Please don't think I'm complaining or don't appreciate the work in this section, I'm just a bit disappointed that XDA or section mods hasn't tried to bring the convention to other forums, Guess I just assumed others were same by now.
I guess this will all change when XDA finally starts its release database.
welcome to the SGS2 section my friend!
Its quite different over here as one of the rules of being in the SGS2 section is we must deal with grumpy and abusive coders, who are to busy yelling and abusing than to actually get on working with the code!
You'll soon meet codeworkx soon enough....you lucky devil you....
Firstly I would just like to say that I am eternally grateful to the devs for choosing to share their work here and I have no complaints (other then one) and I think the work the do is amazing, without them we would be stuck on carrier firmware and out of date software/features so much respect!
My issue is and personally think this is long overdue is that we REALLY need a global (or in least the GS2 section) XDA naming convention/rule or forum addon for adding rom threads so that all rom topic titles are consistent and uniformed.
I probably say this and think about it more because my 2 previous daily devices were the immortal (and best ever smartphone) HTC HD2 and the Galaxy Tab (P1000) and in these forums all dev topics were pretty uniform and all rom/kernel topics has date stamp at front of title so that people browsing section could easily see at a glance if there had been any updates to their roms or in general for people like me who have ORD.
Other sections though like S2 seem to be completely random and its more of a pain to look through roms and the "at a glance" checking of rom updates is completely non-existent.
IMO we really need a rule set of posting topics in dev section as far as rom/kernel releases goes, for example..
[DATE][ROM/KERNEL] Rom Title [Version][Extra Info]
Obviously thats just a quick example but really think the first 2 sections (ie date/type] should be mandatory at front so that all dates/types are in line. Anywhere else and they all just go completely random.
Agree/Disagree , why, thoughts?
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Thoughts? Sure, site-wide rule suggestions don't belong in device sub-forums.
oinkylicious said:
Thoughts? Sure, site-wide rule suggestions don't belong in device sub-forums.
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Well it was in the least just for our forum since mods can create per section rules, however the rule could be made global ideally.