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Long story short... is LPY safe to use or not?

well, after several threads on the LPY issue
i hope someone can make some order in this mess and give us (the ppl) an answer on the LPY risk and how to avoid it.
while i myself don't have enough knowledge on the issue i hope someone who does would answer and i will link the answers in the first post (this one)

iakovl said:
well, after several threads on the LPY issue
i hope someone can make some order in this mess and give us (the ppl) an answer on the LPY risk and how to avoid it.
while i myself don't have enough knowledge on the issue i hope someone who does would answer and i will link the answers in the first post (this one)
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Depends who you ask. I say yes, it is safe. The best thing you can do is wait a day or two and see what happens. If there is truly a problem, you will see more than just one brick.

I had a brick la7 or how was it called. Was using stock Rom and upgraded with Kies. **** happens you can't do anything if it has to be.
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Simple answer : The ICS kernel leaks are not safe. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROM. IT IS THE KERNEL.
Long answer : Clockwork doesn't play well with the new kernels... No one knows why. Some people brick... Some don't. I didn't. Chas did.
Real simple answer : If you have to ask, then don't do it.

Just like with the leaked kernels LP5/LP6 ,some people would brick while others are fine.
Just avoid it if you can ,and if you must taste ICS then may I advice you to flash cm9 ,it's far better than the stock in my opinion .

Short answer: maybe..

This is not a leak! It is a official release from Samsung.
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but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?

I bet a good portion of bricks are user error.
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tyrael64 said:
but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?
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No, only if you root and wipe.

tyrael64 said:
but if you are in germany and get the ota is dangerous too?
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I don't think that people being in another country be a reason that it bricks for other people or not.
In the end the versions are all the same, just with some modifications. (I mean the versions that are brought out per country)

I have xeu uk unlocked phone and i updated to ics via odin and german update love it note is nippy and so far no crashes on apps
Battery seems ok to glad i took plunge
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Official Samsung ICS Update -> Safe
Official Samsung ICS Update + anything related to flashing/getting root -> AT YOUR OWN RISK
If you want a stock Touchwiz ICS experience you're going to be OK. If you want to do more with your device, like always you do that at your own risk.

I jump sooner than i usually do and flashed it because i thought stock roms were safe. It did brick my phone when i made a backup and then using that backup. How i got my phone back going is downloading pc odin and an older gingerbread and flashing it. The ics rom do work very well. But you cant used the backups made with cwm. Im using LPY rightnow after unbricking it with pc odin and an older gingerbread. If u get it going LPY is worth flashing its smoother than gingerbread and very responsive. I hope someone can figure out why we cant use our backups.
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The answer is very simple.
Can you follow directions? Can you not do things outside of what is needed?
If so then yes.
If you go from GB rooted to ICS Official (with or without CF), By the book, you will have no problems.
Do not do something stupid, like say flashing CF Kernel with CM9 first

crawlgsx said:
The answer is very simple.
Can you follow directions? Can you not do things outside of what is needed?
If so then yes.
If you go from GB rooted to ICS Official (with or without CF), By the book, you will have no problems.
Do not do something stupid, like say flashing CF Kernel with CM9 first
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I agree with this. If only people will follow procedures based on the guidelines and without experimenting or creating new instructions outside the normal conditions, i guess it should work accordingly.
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I think the safest thing is if you want to go to another rom go via a stock gb and make sure to pc odin and flash pit with repartition check then root and run cwm from it
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Right now: We don't know. We have at least one person who bricked when wiping with the new kernel.
That's the most dangerous operation - wiping in recovery. However a large file deletion could trigger the issue. It's not likely, it hasn't happened yet, but it's a similar eMMC access pattern so it's possible.

Jack143 said:
It did brick my phone when i made a backup and then using that backup. How i got my phone back going is downloading pc odin and an older gingerbread and flashing it.
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Not sure that is the kind of brick "we" are talking about. The bricks that happens with ICS i9220 leaks are hard bricks and there is no way to recover from them except a motherboard exchange.
However, there is always a small risk to softbrick (when flashing anything) but these are not severe and you could recover from them in different ways depending on what type of softbrick it is.
It is still under debate if the new ICS based on LPY has the same potential to hard brick your note as the ICS i9220 leaks.
Personally I belive that if we don't get any more reports of true hardbricks then it must have been a combination of bad luck and in some way bad hardware.

Entropy512 said:
Right now: We don't know. We have at least one person who bricked when wiping with the new kernel.
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We have one person who bricked their phone by wiping from CF Kernel combined with CM9 Official, clearly NOT what the recommended is anyway.
We have 0 (reported) bricks from those of us who follow the directions.
If on anything other than GB, ODIN to stock GB. Then use mobile odin or odin to flash ICS offical; with or without latest CF Kernel (if you want root). THIS is the safe and recommended way. If you follow any other idea's or thoughts, you are doing so KNOWING DAMN WELL you could brick your phone. Do NOT use CWM functions from any other build of ICS, Period. That is what is safe right now.
Why is this so hard for people?
Why does everyone feel the need to panic and spread chaos and over exaggerate the problem.
No offense Entropy, I know you are a smart man and you know your stuff, but seriously you are making this MUCH worse than it should/needs to be. It has gone from a general "at your own risk" to a spread of fear and chaos.
Strictly my opinion of course.

Error while formatting /system

Can someone help me with this? I've searched a few threads but they are old or not for this phone. I have clockworkmod 5.0.2.0 and I was trying to flash a new rom. It wasn't working, took over 10min to boot so i took out the battery. Now I can't even restore or install the new rom again. When restoring I get the error while formatting system. Please help

Is this with multiple backups?

yes. i've tried multiple ones
I think it's really messed up, i'm just trying to flash a pd15img now

I am having no success flashing back to stock the normal way... can someone explain what this odin thing is? or how to use adb to flash a stock rom back on? please?

Odin is for Samsung phones, no use for you.
ADB doesn't flash system.
Read the "do I have fried eMMC?" guide. There are at least 2 sticky threads with it.

Okay, I'm starting to think mine is fried... when i tried reflashing the pd15img i get fail PU =[
Yeah, so read that... this phone died =[ I didn't realize this phone had these problems. My sensation has been flashed so many more times and nothing... so umm, can someone tell me how to truely brick this so they can't even know I was rooted?

1) That's unethical.
2) All flashing comes with an inherent risk of failure. You knew, or should have known that, before you flashed in the first place.

Never realized that a software stuff like this could screw you like this. How does a chip fail because you try and update it? But thanks for your attempts at helping.

Element515 said:
Okay, I'm starting to think mine is fried... when i tried reflashing the pd15img i get fail PU =[
Yeah, so read that... this phone died =[ I didn't realize this phone had these problems. My sensation has been flashed so many more times and nothing... so umm, can someone tell me how to truely brick this so they can't even know I was rooted?
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Do a search on bricking a device in these forums. I've seen very respected and senior users participate in "intentional bricking" so that it couldn't be powered up & discovered that it had been rooted. So while unethical, it does/has happened. One suggestion was to flash a radio that isn't compatible with the phone...although I do not know if it has/will work. But somewhere there is a thread for that..
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jjbadd385 said:
Do a search on bricking a device in these forums. I've seen very respected and senior users participate in "intentional bricking" so that it couldn't be powered up & discovered that it had been rooted. So while unethical, it does/has happened. One suggestion was to flash a radio that isn't compatible with the phone...although I do not know if it has/will work. But somewhere there is a thread for that..
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Sinner!
Lol. Yeah, he's right. It has been discussed in several threads.
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phone bricked after ics wipe cache/partition

Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!

richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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Completely stock?

richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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You bricked your device completely. Do you have warranty?
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PoisonWolf said:
Completely stock?
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yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom

Have you tried swapping batteries? Just trying to rule out a dead/faulty battery of sorts...

A brick from stock recovery.. Can you get hold of Entropy? This is a valuable info about the brick bug.. Sorry about the incident buddy..

please don't send your phone in for warranty until you've spoken to entropy!!

richterbelmont said:
yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom
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Not CF-Root, no CWM fakeflash with ROM Manager?
If it was in Samsung's own stock recovery ("3e" recovery), I want to put you in touch with a contact of mine at Samsung.
Could you PM me your email address please?
And can you go into very specific detail about what firmwares you have had installed on this device previously?

richterbelmont said:
yes man..im on official ics 4.0.4 germany rom
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Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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sahilarora2003 said:
Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Seriously... If we ever want this nightmare to end, we need to get evidence of danger in stock recovery to engineers at Samsung (not their service centers... they're clueless... If it goes into a service center, it's a lost opportunity). Thank you very much for your attempts to sabotage those efforts.

sahilarora2003 said:
Get your motherboard replaced asap.
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We are trying to get info from this user. This brick is so valuable if indeed it was pure stock recovery and what we can get on this brick can benefit the whole note conmunity and other devices that have the brick bug.. we know he needs a mobo replacement but please DO NOT send the device to service asap..

richterbelmont said:
Guys i need your advice
i was on ics 4.0.4 recovery. do a wipe cache/partition..my phone freeze then shutdown..now i cant even turn it on....even doing recovery nothing.....just trying my luck if theres a way to revive this....thanks in advance!!!!!
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Hope you can communicate with Entropy first before you decide to send your device.. He has a contact at Samsung..

i hope you can get in contact with entropy,, samsung will likely replace your unit with a brand new one.. we all love brand new things, don't we?

Unbelievable.... I never thought stock ICS 4.0.4 can brick our phone....
By the way to the OP... where you also using the stock kernel when you wiped partition /cache? or where you using a custom kernel?
*now this me think on the credibility of all stock ICS (including the latest 4.0.4) ones already... If the OP got hit by this hard brick bug (on stock 4.0.4 ICS, assuming he was using also the stock kernel that comes with it), how many more do you think will follow the OP's plight of hard bricking their phones...?
...and come to think 4.0.4 ICS is beginning to be released already in every region of the world..... this is quite an alarming news.....

What do you guys mean with stock recovery? You mean the one that you use to flash cwm to flash a rom in order to not overwrite some binary so you're phone doesn't lose warranty?

stock recovery is the recovery you have when you buy the phone or just after you flash a stock rom.

If it's a full stock and the wipe was done during automatic upgrade then samsung has to release a solution. But will they?? Entropy has been battling so much and still are people that rush in and say: "replace as fast as you can with a ss"...... unbelieveble.
I think there are more that had the same problem but or aren't users of the WWW or just didn't realise that it was the bug. I'm sure that there are a number of devices that were already repaired by some ss WITHOUT knowledge, just a swap of the mb, new flash and new phone !! That makes the customer happy but doesn't solve the problem.
Ok, it must be hard to be without a phone (i know) but if you are willing to sacrifice some time to solve a WORLDWIDE problem i'm pretty sure that you'll be considered a hero..... :laugh:
As i read here Entropy did already knows of this so just hang in there....
Wish a swift and good solution not just for you but for all....
beco

Follow Entropy that is best way.
Can you plz change title of thread?
it will be easy n better to find if it will
'Bricked not by emmc bug on pure stock ROM' or like something.

hunterhp said:
What do you guys mean with stock recovery? You mean the one that you use to flash cwm to flash a rom in order to not overwrite some binary so you're phone doesn't lose warranty?
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Recovery is the system you get by pressing "vol up", power and menu at the same time at startup
Stock is the one that you get out of the box, looks like this:
http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=867265stock.png
CWM is installed with custom roms and CFRoot, looks kis this:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/backup-cwm-rooted-galaxy-note-3-690x431.jpg
You know which one you used ?

We just have to wait for the OP to report back, if it is not a false alarm. I mean, he has only 3 posts, could be anything. I hope he was on stock, but it smells like a noob not following the instructions. Forgive me if I'm wrong. In any case:
DO NOT SEND THE DEVICE to the service centre before contacting Entropy!

[Q] Rooting/ROMing?

I am very experienced with my Samsung Droid Charge for Verizon, and I am trying to help my friend with his mytouch 4g. Basically I don't know how to do anything on a HTC phone. On Samsung we have a Windows program called ODIN that can flash anything to the phone (stock software, CWM, kernels, ROMs, radios, backup/restore, repartition). Most of the above we also do with CWM, which we get into by holding volume down, home, and power. Are there equivalents for all this on HTC?
Also, are there any fully working AOSP (preferably ICS or JB) ROMs? Sense would be fine just to get the bloat off. Does S-on or S-off make a difference? That is kind of confusing to me. Note that I would want a generally finished ROM that you can just flash once and not look at again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388962
knock yourself out.
btw, yes, for HTC Devices, S-Off (basically unlocked bootloader) is required for root access and ROM/mods flashing.

saranhai said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388962
knock yourself out.
btw, yes, for HTC Devices, S-Off (basically unlocked bootloader) is required for root access and ROM/mods flashing.
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Thanks. Also how easy is it to hard brick this phone? The Charge is nearly impossible, with the only reports of hard bricks unplugging the cable when flashing something in ODIN, or a corruption when changing file systems on the internal memory.

JihadSquad said:
Thanks. Also how easy is it to hard brick this phone? The Charge is nearly impossible, with the only reports of hard bricks unplugging the cable when flashing something in ODIN, or a corruption when changing file systems on the internal memory.
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I tried really hard to brick this phone to show my friend its safe to root. No luck lol
Though I did have the good eMMc. Some mt4g's shipped with a bad eMMC which sometimes causes partitions to get corrupt and not Mount correctly therefore rendering the device useless.
Look up failed pu errors on this forum, also there is a tutorial to determine which eMMc your device has.
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Yes check your emmc chip to see which one the phone has 50% of the people here will tell you it doesn't matter if u have the good or bad one but its always good to check.
Yes its hard to brick this phone unless u flash a wrong radio because I've flashed from different devices kernels and my phone is still alive..
somehow... but always ALWAYS have a NANDROID just in case and follow the guide Saranhai posted...
Like every ICS / JB ROMs theirs not 1 that stands out to be Perfect they all have their bugs since this device only got Gingerbread but test them for yourself and see which one works the best for your friend and his daily uses of the phone.
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...Awesome... said:
Yes check your emmc chip to see which one the phone has 50% of the people here will tell you it doesn't matter if u have the good or bad one but its always good to check.
Yes its hard to brick this phone unless u flash a wrong radio because I've flashed from different devices kernels and my phone is still alive..
somehow... but always ALWAYS have a NANDROID just in case and follow the guide Saranhai posted...
Like every ICS / JB ROMs theirs not 1 that stands out to be Perfect they all have their bugs since this device only got Gingerbread but test them for yourself and see which one works the best for your friend and his daily uses of the phone.
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Yeah i figured about ICS/JB. We have a cm9 and cm10 ROM with like half the hardware working and then the dev got stuck. What would you say is the best ROM to flash just once and be done with it? I would probably root, tibu, nandroid, and flash the ROM then restore apps.

...Awesome... said:
Yes check your emmc chip to see which one the phone has 50% of the people here will tell you it doesn't matter if u have the good or bad one but its always good to check.
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I think differently. I've never known and don't plan on looking up the emmc on my phone. If I ever had a doubt or fear about anything I did on this device, I probably wouldn't be developing at all. I'd have to say it doesn't matter because at the end of the day no matter what chip you have it should be YOU who decides what you do with your device. Not the other way around.
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Atf did i do wrong? !!

I rooted the phone, I installed safe strap and tried to flash slim bean and it brick my phone to the point that it wouldn't turn on and won't even charge. Lucky I only had one week with the phone and got another one back. I have rooted many galaxy s phones this is the most difficult one ...so ridiculous. I'm done with Samsung! !

cal4877 said:
I rooted the phone, I installed safe strap and tried to flash slim bean and it brick my phone to the point that it wouldn't turn on and won't even charge. Lucky I only had one week with the phone and got another one back. I have rooted many galaxy s phones this is the most difficult one ...so ridiculous. I'm done with Samsung! !
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So what is your question?

Didn't think you could flash slim bean using safe strap?
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OK so I can't flash with safestrap ? I tried rom manager that didn't work either I'm on latest stock 4.3 mk2

Should have read the front page of safestrap and also the the thread in Q/A section. You can only flash 4.3 Touchwiz roms. Safestrap is the only recovery that works for MK2 currently.

Got it, so is useless. Thanks man. And I assume that we can't use Odin either to downgrade right? ? Man I missed those days!!

cal4877 said:
Got it, so is useless. Thanks man. And I assume that we can't use Odin either to downgrade right? ? Man I missed those days!!
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Why don't you do some reading and learning about your device before you brick a 2nd phone for not reading? Everything you have asked in this thread has been thoroughly covered already. It's not Samsung's fault that you are doing things wrong.

scott14719 said:
Why don't you do some reading and learning about your device before you brick a 2nd phone for not reading? Everything you have asked in this thread has been thoroughly covered already. It's not Samsung's fault that you are doing things wrong.
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it said a "any" rom .maybe someone needs to change the wording a little don't you think? How about "some roms"?

That thread is for MDL, not safestrap
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