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So which way is the RIGHT way to recondition the battery?
A. By Sombionix
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
OR
B. By Someone else (Idk who, sorry if it is you)
1. Let it die completely
2. Charge it completely
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Your done.
Which way is the right way?
I personally have seen the first one work pretty good on my old MyTouch3G. I have never done this to my Vibrant but like I said, the first option used to work for my other phone pretty good.
Theyre both essentially the same:
Drain to 0
Charge to 100 (while off)
Boot into recovery/wipe battery states (while still plugged in)
Then drain battery again (I don't charge my phone until its 1-3%)
anthonys2r said:
Theyre both essentially the same:
Drain to 0
Charge to 100 (while off)
Boot into recovery/wipe battery states (while still plugged in)
Then drain battery again (I don't charge my phone until its 1-3%)
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I don't see how they are the same.
Sorry to hijack your thread, but just to clarify.
Does my phone need to be rooted/have a custom rom/modified in any way before I can recondition my battery?
I booted into recovery and couldn't find the option to wipe battery.
vitality said:
I don't see how they are the same.
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Basic drain, recharge, wipe, drain
Only the first way, the second way conditions, kind of, then erases the stats... :/
JJG2 said:
Sorry to hijack your thread, but just to clarify.
Does my phone need to be rooted/have a custom rom/modified in any way before I can recondition my battery?
I booted into recovery and couldn't find the option to wipe battery.
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Yeah, I've been looking all over to figure out how to do this. I found this after some searching. I'm going to try this when I get off work.
Found this:
""HOW TO RECONDITION YOUR BATTERY
If your battery seems to drain fast, or if you are changing roms, you might want to try the following to help your battery. Master posted the following instructions (this assumes you have root and clockwork recovery):
1.) Drain your battery to the point it shuts off on it's own..
2.) Plug it in & let it charge over night (While it is still off)
3.) Launch into ClockWork Recovery by holding the "VOL UP", "VOL DOWN", & "Power" release those buttons after you see the second Vibrant screen.
4.) Press "reinstall packages" (It should take you to the Clockwork Mod Recovery screen, If it didn't then press "reinstall packages' again)
5.) Go to "advanced"
6.) Press "Wipe Battery Stats"
7.) Reboot
** I drain my battery to as low as it will go, but not all the way. I also charge it for only about an extra hour max, once it's fully charged. **""
so the only debate is whether battery stats should be reset when the battery is full, or when it's practically empty.
I've never wiped battery stats and never had issues, even switching between batteries on my G1. Just drain till out dies then recharge. I've had it last on 1-2% for a a few hours before, but it always recalibrates its self after the next full charge.
Sent from my SGS Vibrant.
dougstoner said:
Yeah, I've been looking all over to figure out how to do this. I found this after some searching. I'm going to try this when I get off work.
Found this:
""HOW TO RECONDITION YOUR BATTERY
If your battery seems to drain fast, or if you are changing roms, you might want to try the following to help your battery. Master posted the following instructions (this assumes you have root and clockwork recovery):
1.) Drain your battery to the point it shuts off on it's own..
2.) Plug it in & let it charge over night (While it is still off)
3.) Launch into ClockWork Recovery by holding the "VOL UP", "VOL DOWN", & "Power" release those buttons after you see the second Vibrant screen.
4.) Press "reinstall packages" (It should take you to the Clockwork Mod Recovery screen, If it didn't then press "reinstall packages' again)
5.) Go to "advanced"
6.) Press "Wipe Battery Stats"
7.) Reboot
** I drain my battery to as low as it will go, but not all the way. I also charge it for only about an extra hour max, once it's fully charged. **""
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So are you saying we need to be rooted? To use the clockwork recovery?
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Why are you guys insisting on DRAINING before CHARGING and then WIPING stats? The first drain won't do anything and even if it did, you're wiping the stats soon after.
Just charge, wipe, drain, charge. That's it.
where do you guys find the "advanced" and "wipe battery" option? im on a Tmobile vibrant and when i boot into recovery and then reinstall packages, i only get the option to:
reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
when i click reinstall packages again, it does a scan and says "e: cant open /sdcard/update.zip, Installation aborted"
thnx
J__ said:
where do you guys find the "advanced" and "wipe battery" option? im on a Tmobile vibrant and when i boot into recovery and then reinstall packages, i only get the option to:
reboot system now
reinstall packages
delete all user data
delete cache data
when i click reinstall packages again, it does a scan and says "e: cant open /sdcard/update.zip, Installation aborted"
thnx
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You need to download clockwork recovery from market and flash the program within the application.
alecjake said:
So which way is the RIGHT way to recondition the battery?
A. By Sombionix
1. Charge phone completely, leave plugged into power
2. Boot into recovery
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Remove power cable
6. Drain that sucker all the way
7. Recharge fully
8. Rejoice!"
OR
B. By Someone else (Idk who, sorry if it is you)
1. Let it die completely
2. Charge it completely
3. Wipe battery stats
4. Reboot
5. Your done.
Which way is the right way?
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Just so we're clear "conditioning" the battery is a misnomer. Lithium Ion batteries do not need "conditioning" in the electrochemical sense that say Nickel Cadmium batteries do. What you are doing is calibrating the internal charging systems awareness of battery states.
I've tried either method, and cannot note any significant difference between the two. So long as your starting the calibration with a clean slate and a battery in an effective 0% or 100% state you're effectively establishing a baseline that the software can work with.
masterotaku said:
Just so we're clear "conditioning" the battery is a misnomer. Lithium Ion batteries do not need "conditioning" in the electrochemical sense that say Nickel Cadmium batteries do. What you are doing is calibrating the internal charging systems awareness of battery states.
I've tried either method, and cannot note any significant difference between the two. So long as your starting the calibration with a clean slate and a battery in an effective 0% or 100% state you're effectively establishing a baseline that the software can work with.
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This.
And since it's a lithium-ion battery, you really shouldn't be draining it to absolute zero, ever. EVER. So if you're going to "condition" do it at 100%
I see so many people on these forums complaining about bad battery life and how they reconditioned their battery 27 times this week.
STOP.
The best thing you can do for your battery is charge early and often.
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once battery is drained, instead of recharging it while its in the phone... will it be the same if i recharge the battery seperately, then when its fully charged... slip it inot the phoen and THEN do this again? i have 3 batteries lol
anthonys2r said:
You need to download clockwork recovery from market and flash the program within the application.
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oic. thnx. Do i need root for that?
How best to "condition" multiple batteries?
masterotaku said:
Just so we're clear "conditioning" the battery is a misnomer. Lithium Ion batteries do not need "conditioning" in the electrochemical sense that say Nickel Cadmium batteries do. What you are doing is calibrating the internal charging systems awareness of battery states.
I've tried either method, and cannot note any significant difference between the two. So long as your starting the calibration with a clean slate and a battery in an effective 0% or 100% state you're effectively establishing a baseline that the software can work with.
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Thanks for this useful information. I have a desktop charger that charges my two spare batteries, so I don't use the phone to charge the batteries. Given that "conditioning" simply calibrates the phone, would this method help my battery life at all?
J__ said:
oic. thnx. Do i need root for that?
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Yes, you do.
Standart disclaimer: I am not responsible if you break things by following this guide, though I will be genuinely surprised if you do.
Credits: This fix is a combination of battery management techniques discussed in the Atrix forums + a technique that I originally found in a Milestone forum (I didn't invent it, but I am too lazy to search who originally posted it ).
This worked in fixing the problem for me (the same problem that I see many others are writing about on the forums), but I can't guarantee it will work for you.
Who should use this? (aka your battery problem symptoms are
1. Battery life on 2.3.4 is significantly worse for you than before.
2. Battery stats are jumping and showing inconsistent information.
3. Your phone loses 30%-60% just by sitting there overnight.
4. Phone idle draining 30%-60% of battery just by sitting there overnight.
5. After flashing a couple of roms, your battery stats got messed up and the phone thinks it's at 100% charge while it's not.
I personally started having battery problems after flashing a couple of roms, applying 1% battery mod and despite flashing jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix.
When I went to bed with a 100% charge, I would wake up to a 50% charge, with Phone Idle process showing up as massacring the battery. The steps below successfully fixed the problem for me.
Prerequisites:
1. Atrix on one of the rooted 2.3.4 roms (ideally,- deodexed and with unlocked CWM)
2. Wall Charger
3. jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (put it on your SD card you will need it later!) I have also attached it to this post.
4. Battery Calibration app from the market
5. Watchdog Lite or Full from the market
Instructions:
It's best to complete this procedure in the evening before going to bed, so you can leave it at 100% overnight and check in the morning if the drainage issue is fixed!!!
The whole procedure along with recalibration might take up to 5-6 hours!
1. Take the case off your Atrix (one of the latter steps involves taking the battery out from the phone while it's plugged in. Make sure your case won't stand in the way.)
2. Install Battery Calibration app from the market
3. Plug in your Atrix to charge while it's on, wait till it gets to a 100%
4. When the charge is 100%, open the BatteryCalibration app and lookup what the charge is in MV while at 100%. (Explanatory pic, needed number circled in red). Write it down.
My Atrix was showing ~3400MV while at 100%, which is definitely not the maximum capacity.
5. Discharge your Atrix completely until it shuts off.
A good way of doing this quickly is by turning on wifi, and a video player.
6. Without turning on the phone plug it into a wall charger and let it get to 100%
7. When it's at 100%, without unplugging it from the wall charger, take off the battery cover, and take the battery out.
Your phone will "reboot" and show a Missing Battery icon.
8. Without unplugging the phone from the wall charger or turning it on, put the battery back in and wait until the phone recognizes the battery.
9. Your battery should now be recognized by the phone, and showing a charge % significantly lower than 100%.
Mine showed only 5%. Back when I used a Milestone, it usually showed 60% after doing this.
10. Let it sit there charging for 2-3 hours.
My phone wouldn't charge past 10%, but yours might. The numbers don't matter much as the phone is definitely getting additional charge that could have been lost while flashing ROMs, etc.
11. After 2-3 hours, turn the phone on while holding the volume down button and get into CWM.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
12. Install jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix (even if you had it installed before), do not reboot yet.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
13. Wipe battery stats in CWM, reboot.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
14. When the phone turns on, go into BatteryCalibration app again and look up your MV numbers
- if you were like me, they should be significantly higher than before. After this whole process I had 4200MV at 100%, comparing to 3400MV before calibration.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
15. Before going to sleep - Install Watchdog from the market. Go into it's preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20%, check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20% as well.
Do not disconnect it from the charger still!
16. Make sure your wifi and data connections are off. Now finally unplug the phone from the charger.
Go to bed, let your phone sleep too.
17. Success! Next morning check where your battery % is at and if you followed the instructions correctly / got lucky like me, your battery life should be 90% or more.
I went to bed with 98% and woke up to 94%. So, I consider this mission a success.
(Your general battery capacity should have increased, even if something still was draining the battery, you will be able to find the infringing process in WatchDog with the settings we've set up in step 15 )
That's all folks! Please report your success / lack of such here. Also, feel free to ask questions, and I along with other users with answer them according to our ability.
I will later add a section on "good practices for battery usage" with tips and tricks.
Cheers!
Attached are screenshots of my results after calibration: This was under moderate usage. Pretty damn good if you ask me.
Post-calibration methods of improving Battery Life
Updated: Post#2 will explain how to solve battery drainage problems when recalibration wasn't enough. It will also explain how battery reporting works, common practices, tips, tricks, etc.
Battery Tips / Tricks / Common Practices
Important things to know:
1. It's important to understand how battery indicator on Android works and how Android manages / reports your battery life. Please read this article:
Your Smartphone’s Battery Gauge is Lying to You (and it’s not such a bad thing)
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/25/you...is-lying-to-you-and-its-not-such-a-bad-thing/
2. Li-ion batteries used in modern smartphones don't have "charge memory". Partial charges won't hurt the battery (e.g. charging from 60% to 80% or from 10% to 50% etc). Feel free to give your phone small charges whenever you have time and need the phone to last longer.
3. Smartphone batteries don't like to be completely discharged or to be kept at 100% capacity for extended periods of time (this actually damages batteries over time). But worry not, the battery software prevents this from happening for you. That's why some of your phones never get to 100% or drop from 100% to 90% minutes after you disconnct the phone from a charger.
4. All batteries gradually lose a small percentage of their capacity after a certain amount of charge cycles. It's a natural part of life. It's always nice to have a spare battery or to purchase a replacement when your current battery isn't to the task anymore.
5. Don't pay much attention to the battery %, just use your phones. I know it's very tempting to track your battery usage every 15 minutes and try to find problems. Been there myself. Thing is, if you do this, you might start thinking you have problems, when you don't have any.
Bottom line - just try to use your phone and not mess with the battery unless problems become really apparent.
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Other proven ways to improve Battery Life
If you have re-calibrated to a full capacity (4200mv) but your battery still drains terribly - follow these steps to pin point the problem.
1. Find which app / process is draining the battery.
If you get lucky, the infringing app will show up directly under the stock "Battery Usage" statistics. However, in most cases "Battery Usage" isn't very informative. Most people report that they only see "Phone Idle" consuming most of the battery without much insight into the details.
Things to do:
- install Watchdog, go to preferences, set CPU threshhold to 20% (or even lower if it's not enough), check "Include phone processes", check "Monitor phone processes", check "Display all phone processes", set system CPU threshhold to 20%(or even lower if it's not enough) as well. Run it for a couple of days.
If you start getting frequent Watchdog notifications about a certain app breaching the threshold - uninstall it, find an alternative.
- install BetterBatteryStats from here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 run it for a couple of days and monitor apps / processes that are using up more wakelocks than they should.
Once you find the infringing app - uninstall it, if it's a process - find out if it's safe to stop / freeze before doing anything.
2. Freeze bloatware aka "stop the problem before it becomes a problem."
Unless you are running CM7, your rom is based on stock 2.3.4 and still has blur in it. Blur apps and processes might be running without you even using them and sucking out precious batter life while they are at it.
Things to do:
- Get TitaniumBackup, freeze all bloatware that is mentioned as "safe" in this thread -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182663
Use your phone for a couple of days afterwards and watch for improvements.
If these software tweaks aren't enough, the problem might be with your system setup. Go through these steps which should hopefully fix your setup in favor of awesome battery life:
3. Flash a custom kernel, set up battery saving profiles.
Many people have reported success with this step. Custom kernels are not just for overclocking. A custom kernel with smart profiles will definitely give definitely extend your phones operating life during the day.
Things to do:
- Get a custom kernel., the popular choice on here seems to be faux'es kernel, so I recommend it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
Get one of the battery saving SetCpu profiles along with it. Basically, a good battery saving profile looks something like this:
- absolute minimum CPU clock with screen off (something like 275 Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock with temperature > 50C (something like ~800Mhz)
- lowering CPU clock when battery < 30% (something like ~800Mhz)
Many people reported success in using such profile for lowering "Phone Idle" drain.
4. Flash a different radio.
WARNING: Be extremely careful with this. Flashing a wrong radio is the right way to hard brick your phone.
Although some people are reporting to have fixed battery drainage by trying out a different radio, I seriously wouldn't recommend going on a flashing spree unless you know what you are doing.
My advice here: flash the latest 2.3.4 for your carrier if you haven't yet. From there on, experiment at your own risk.
5. Disable Data and Wifi when idle either manually or with an app."
I seriously get surprised every time someone says they have a horrible battery life, when they keep an internet connection on at all times. Constant data always = battery drain.
Things to do:
- use apps like Green Power to disable data / wifi for you when you are not using it
- learn to turn off your internet connection manually
6. If all else fails - start over from scratch (read: clean install a rom).
I've heard reports of people getting better life with Froyo than GB, or that a specific custom ROM solved their problem for them. A million dollar question: if it works for you, why not use it?
Things to do:
- try a ROM without blur, like CM7
- try Ninja Speed Freak (developer and many users reported great battery life)
- if battery life is your top concern - try Froyo
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FAQ
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... ask away!
Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?
eklam said:
Many thanks! Have pass about three days reading about the battery issues/solutions, and I was getting confused by so many info! Will try it tonight!
PS: Does the jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix works for the Orange 2.3.4 ?
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Are you using stock Orange 2.3.4 rom?
If yes, your Rom might not have the battery jumping problem. You can still use this guide without the battery fix to recalibrate.
Let's wait for someone with Orange 2.3.4 to confirm if jug6ernaut's CWM battery fix can be used or not.
Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...
Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything in BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?
eklam said:
Indeed, I have not the battery jump issue, but I'm exprimenting some weird behavior...
like when I restart the phone, it shows about 10% higher than before. I tried this multiples times yesterday. When it was about 40%, it starts to drop suddenly, 'till it got to 18% and get back to normal decrease to 4%, 2~3 hours later...
See the images attached, the red circles are the times I rebooted it and the blue arrow is when it drops suddenly...
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Did it only start doing this on 2.3.4 or you haven't checked before? Anyway, I would do the calibration to see if it changes anything.
coleburns said:
Question on step 4. To confirm, we shouldn't click on anything BatteryCalibration, all that needs to be done is take note on the MV number, correct?
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No clicking in step 4. Just write down or remember the MV number.
Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it
eklam said:
Yes it just starts when updating to 2.3.4... In the first days I got the impression of lower battery level, so reading the forums I saw the restart/level change problem, and tested it
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You probably updated to 2.3.4 while not at 100% battery level, and it messed up your battery stat. So, yes, do all the steps in this guide except for jug6ernaut's battery fix part.
thanks, ill give this a shot....again.....tonight and hopefully it will fix my issue.
Screenshots of results added to post 1
Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
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jarsh92 said:
Download link seems to be down...just errors out when trying to download.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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Which download link? CMW_Jug6_FIXv2.zip?
I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.
ThickG said:
I'm on a rooted stock GB and I'm having the problem where the battery usage stats are inaccurate and won't got below 90% after using it all day. This all started after I used Battery Calibration. Do you think that this would help correct the problem?
Edit: Also, would I need to complete all of the steps including the CWM part? I haven't flashed any roms yet, so I don't know if this would be necessary.
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Seems like you used Battery Calibration while not at 100% charge and your battery stats got messed up.
The reason I recommend using CWM is because the battery stats file is created on each boot. So, with my instructions you can charge the phone to 100% while it's off and wipe the messed up stats before it boots.
You can try using my instructions, without the CWM part, except you need to wipe your battery stats with Battery Calibration app after step 4.
lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.
I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.
dictoresno said:
lol i left pandora on since this morning and its only at 67%. ugh, when i wanna force drain the battery it goes slow as hell but when i wanna conserve battery live for usage it drains quick. hahaha.
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lol yes. I used video playback to drain mine. But if it's really a PITA, you can always just leave it till tomorrow to discharge naturally.
Jonous said:
I just flashed navalynt's πCrust rom fully charged, cleared stats through cwm, booted and now i'm close to 3days.
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Yep, that's why flashing only when at 100% charge always pays off.
I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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CaelanT said:
I get the same results by booting to CWM, wiping battery stats, rebooting, starting Battery Calibration, plugging phone into wall charger, charging to 100% (4197mv for me), and then calibrating with Battery Calibration. I start this process at any battery percentage, and have been doing this for a long time now. I have never had to deplete my battery until my phone shuts off, and get great battery life.
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After the calibration I had 4200mv, so it seems like you are doing things right in regards to the battery.
"Taking the battery out and putting it back in" trick works wonders though in restoring battery life to maximum state (if you had it decrease for some reason). I've tested it multiple times even back when I had the Milestone.
So, I am using MIUI 2.1.12 with LorDModUE 8.6 CFS 2WCR kernel.
I have installed 4EXT Recovery Controller and CurrentWidget.
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
This never happened while I was using the default CM kernel included in MIUI. Only happened with Tiamat and LordMod.
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Seriously, guys, what is the best way to calibrate the battery?! Perhaps I should not have let it shut itself down, but plug the charger when the phone was at 1% (which lasted for another 20-30 minutes, by the way)?!
if I don't remember it wrong the LED turns green at 90%.
afair the battery doesn't get charged during booting. which means that you probably lost the 1% during boot.
I also used the same method and got it calibrated correctly
but is their any other way too ?
monki79 said:
if I don't remember it wrong the LED turns green at 90%.
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The LED turns green on AOSP ROMs at 90%, when the phone is ON, as far as I know. When it is OFF, it works fine (goes green at 100%).
I want to hear from the developers / those that know how these codes work and stuff... Cause I don't want to look at my phone how the percentage goes down so fast, then, when it reaches 10%, I can play Pocket Legends for another 20 full minutes -.-
Formhault said:
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
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The battery doesn't charge to full capacity first time around. When I used to calibrate the battery I would charge until it was drawing 0mA, then reboot; it would be drawing about 26mA, so I'd charge to 0mA again and reboot; it would now be drawing about 15mA, so I'd carry on charging to 0mA, reboot, repeat, repeat and repeat until it eventually continued to draw 0mA after a reboot. Then I'd delete the batterystats.bin file.
As one of Google's engineers says, deleting your battery stats isn't going to improve your battery life. I haven't done any of that for a long time now and I've noticed precisely no difference (except for the extra time I've gained by not having to wait for it to finally charge up to full capacity).
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The battery doesn't charge to full capacity first time around. When I used to calibrate the battery I would charge until it was drawing 0mA, then reboot; it would be drawing about 26mA, so I'd charge to 0mA again and reboot; it would now be drawing about 15mA, so I'd carry on charging to 0mA, reboot, repeat, repeat and repeat until it eventually continued to draw 0mA after a reboot. Then I'd delete the batterystats.bin file.
As one of Google's engineers says, deleting your battery stats isn't going to improve your battery life. I haven't done any of that for a long time now and I've noticed precisely no difference (except for the extra time I've gained by not having to wait for it to finally charge up to full capacity).
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I know about Google's statement.
The battery would drain fast, then, when it reaches 1% or 5%, you would be able to use your phone like it had 30%. Just that it shows the values wrong. Calibrating the battery should fix that...
Anyway... I'm not going to struggle any further.
I'll tell what I've done;
- I have installed Battery Balibration app and CurrentWidget,
- Waited battery charging till reached 0ma,
- Removed battery stats and restarted,
- Then waited to drain battery and shut-down itself,
- I connected USB charger to PC and TURN ON THE PHONE !!
- Again waited battery to reach 0 ma,
- Then plugged off and monitored that current widget shows the range btw 3-10 !!
I don't know exactly if it helps but, maybe you should turn on your DHD while carging..
For further instructions you may qant to check this topic;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
Formhault said:
So, I am using MIUI 2.1.12 with LorDModUE 8.6 CFS 2WCR kernel.
I have installed 4EXT Recovery Controller and CurrentWidget.
With CurrentWidget, I monitored the battery while charging until it reached 0mA (which means the battery is as full as it can get).
With 4EXT Recovery Controller I removed the batterystats.bin file.
I drained the phone until it shut itself down. Then I charged it (without powering it on) until it was full (LED was green).
I power on the phone... 99% battery.
I plug in the charger... it says 26mA (which means it would reach 0mA as in full charge in another 20-30 minutes).
WHAT THE HELL?!
This never happened while I was using the default CM kernel included in MIUI. Only happened with Tiamat and LordMod.
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Seriously, guys, what is the best way to calibrate the battery?! Perhaps I should not have let it shut itself down, but plug the charger when the phone was at 1% (which lasted for another 20-30 minutes, by the way)?!
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Theres a better alternative, use the battery calibration app in the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
It's always worked a charm for me.
knp3385 said:
Theres a better alternative, use the battery calibration app in the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
It's always worked a charm for me.
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Right, with Battery Calibration i have solved my problem with battery, now i can use all day without charging.
Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?
Duwie_80 said:
Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?
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Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!
Duwie_80 said:
Sorry if my question is a silly one...
what's the point in calibrating your battery? I mean... except for the stats (and I guess, the percentage in the bar), do you improve your battery life by calibrating it?
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fremce said:
Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!
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I don't really know. It would be silly for the Android system to display the battery percentage (up there, in the status bar) by reading the batterystats.bin.
My phone's battery level drops somewhat fast, then, when it would reach 30% or so, it doesn't drop as fast. Also, at times, when I reach 10%, 5% or even 1%, I am still able to play an intensive game like Pocket Legends for an extended ammount of time (30 minutes, for example). Pocket Legends is CPU/GPU intensive and it also requires an active Internet connection, so I'd say it's pretty power hungry.
I don't really get the entire purpose of calibration. I have done it and I can't seem to notice any difference.
I'm going to do it again, now, because I switched to a Sense ROM (RunnyDrOiD). I'll monitor the battery with Battery Monitor Pro. When it reaches +0mA, I'll reboot and so forth so forth until it's drawing 0mA, although I doubt I'll resist that much time, so I'll just delete the batterystats.bin after a few reboots, when it reachs 0mA.
fremce said:
Some says it's irrelevant, calibrating it's just an illusion
But did calibrate my battery and my battery life is improved too terrific !!
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If everybody knew the meaning of the word "calibration" then nobody would talk such nonsense.
Calibration improves the accuracy of the percentage shown!
The illusion is that you improve your battery life with it....
Dlog said:
If everybody knew the meaning of the word "calibration" then nobody would talk such nonsense.
Calibration improves the accuracy of the percentage shown!
The illusion is that you improve your battery life with it....
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As I said... calibrating the battery may fix the "problem" where once you reach 1% / 5% you can use your phone like it still had ~20%.
I'm gone test it too...
Hi there people, I didn't find any battery thread similar to what I'm going to say so I'll spam a little bit
I've just found as I was fooling around this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PowerSki...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20c1a1c8ad
It suppose to be a silicon case with a battery build in(1500mah ..not bad), I don't know the dimensions but I just someone might think it as a solution to our 1230mah small battery(with this you have a total of 1730mah which is plenty)
P.S. To mods.. feel free to delete my post, I just wanted to inform the people about a solution that might be handy
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Hi there people, I didn't find any battery thread similar to what I'm going to say so I'll spam a little bit
I've just found as I was fooling around this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PowerSki...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item20c1a1c8ad
It suppose to be a silicon case with a battery build in(1500mah ..not bad), I don't know the dimensions but I just someone might think it as a solution to our 1230mah small battery(with this you have a total of 1730mah which is plenty)
P.S. To mods.. feel free to delete my post, I just wanted to inform the people about a solution that might be handy
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https://www.google.com/search?q=xda+powerskin+desire+hd
first link....
When i must wipe my Battery Stats?
Always when you Flash a new Rom or Reflash the rom you must have to wipe your Battery Stats to have the best Battery life from your Device.
How to wipe Battery Stats?
1. charging the battery FULLY
2. boot device to CWM Recovery
3. advanced/Wipe Battery Stats
4. reboot device
5. don't charge the device until the battery still turns off your device because it empty (do not drain with heavy apps like video streaming ect.)
6. now again FULLY charge without interruption
7. Have fun ^^
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I have woundered why it didn't work on my phone and that was becuse i charged it while i wiped it and i didn't let it drain all the battery
well...you can also wipe that in the xRecovery if you have it
the reason of wiping it is because the battery status will not be accurate.
also, if you found your battery is draining, try to wipe it, then check the running services if there are too much apps running in the background~
DanneB. said:
Thanks
I have woundered why it didn't work on my phone and that was becuse i charged it while i wiped it and i didn't let it drain all the battery
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You're welcome.
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If i wipe battery stats when my phone's battery not at 100%,is it okay..??I wipe the battery stats when i flash new rom..and until now i don't have battery drain..
nazz.rule said:
If i wipe battery stats when my phone's battery not at 100%,is it okay..??I wipe the battery stats when i flash new rom..and until now i don't have battery drain..
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wipe it when battery has 100% and after you flashed new rom
The better and easiest way is with battery calibration.apk
Download this: http://db.tt/Ohb9vGgP
And follow the instructions
actually, it usually takes a longer time for the battery to get from 99% to 100%
the reason is... idk...
but even thought it is 99%, it takes a shorter time to consume the battery than it is charged to 100%
thats my experience
If you read the phone manual, it says that happens because it is expanding battery life... (??)
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expanding battery life... -.-?
I think thats a lie~
Yes, thats what I am thinking too. My father saw it too, and the first thing he says: "Rubbish!!"
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Yes, thats what I am thinking too. My father saw it too, and the first thing he says: "Rubbish!!"
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+1 Rubbish!!
this is a troll? if charging increase battery life, i would see my electricity bill piles up ady
5. don't charge the device until the battery still turns off your device because it empty (do not drain with heavy apps like video streaming ect.)
what does that mean So after fully charge > wipe battery stat > reboot... what do I do now? I'm confused here
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azyar said:
5. don't charge the device until the battery still turns off your device because it empty (do not drain with heavy apps like video streaming ect.)
what does that mean So after fully charge > wipe battery stat > reboot... what do I do now? I'm confused here
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after you wipe the battery stats and reboot your device you have to wait untill your device battery is empty and the phone turned off by herself. 0% battery . After device turned off by herself, charge your device again to 100% without any interruption like reboot or unplug power plug.
Understand? Please excuse my english is not as well.
safix8 said:
after you wipe the battery stats and reboot your device you have to wait untill your device battery is empty and the phone turned off by herself. 0% battery . After device turned off by herself, charge your device again to 100% without any interruption like reboot or unplug power plug.
Understand? Please excuse my english is not as well.
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That's what I don't understand. After I Wipe Battery Stat and reboot the device. I'm waiting, and She's not turned off by herself but I skip Step 5. and everything works. still 73% after 2 hours ...
@azyar
1. Charge the phone (100%)
2. Wipe battery stats
3. Reboot the phone
4. Now use the phone until the battery has gone from 100% to 0% (when the battery reaches 0%, it will turn off by itself)
5. Now charge the phone 100% again without interruptions (don't even touch it)
When battery level has reached 100% (not 99%), you may use your phone again.
Some say battery calibration is a myth, I'm quite sure it works!
You can give that a try after flashing a new rom to improve your battery life! :victory:
(the guide is tested but still i'm not responsible for any demage to your phone)
1. you need a recovery to access a specific file
twrp works
2. you need the xposed app: disable low battery warning (or a likely name)
(for that you can fully dischage your phone)
3. you need a battery discharger app this one: Fast discharge
(for that you can faster discharge)
4. you activate the xposed app and discharge your battery with the app (set the app to discharge to 0%)
(i wouldn't activate the light or the vibration since i don't know if they can overheat for discharging the battery)
5. set the governor to performance to have a faster discharge
6. your phone will kind of be fully discharged and just turn off at maybe 5% battery or later
7. charge your phone just plug it in until it's 100%
(i couldn't boot like that to the system so i had to reconnect after 100% charging which isn't the right way to calibrate battery)
(so if you can then boot whilst charging or plug back in after booting on 100% quickly)
8. enter the recovery and search for this file:
> /data/system/ batterystats.bin
then reboot
thats all!
More info about the myth here. I only calibrate my bat when I feel it needs to be calibrated, even being a myth:laugh:
P.S: or you can download a battery calibration app from Playstore.
The myth of "calibrating the battery makes it last longer" was dispelled by Google's own engineers. All calibrating the battery does is wipe the battery statistics file that keeps the usage history you see in settings. This is something that happens when the device nears 100% charge anyway so its pretty much useless to do it.
As for "the right" way to calibrate the battery, the OP clearly has no idea what he's talking about... its the battery usage history file, there are 2 ways to delete it - manually or just charge the battery to 100%, neither of those does any harm to the device and neither is better than the other seeing as this whole thing of calibrating the battery is utter nonsense.
To which end I don't really see a reason or need for this thread.