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First I want to thank thor2002ro for ClockworkMod Recovery and making flashing and updating fast, easy and safe, also vache for providing 3.1 update, sc2k for an easy and quick way to root any version of the A500, last but not least Interphaze Solutions (whoever he is) for the Acer Recovery Installer.
I just updated (from stock 1.141.01_EMEA_GEN3 to 4.010.22_COM_GEN1) IT works, no wifi issues, GPS now takes a lot to get location, and seeing a lot of performance improvements and fixes, was late and delayed 5 times but here it is and we are enjoying it.
Thus I wonder why no one even bothers to make a change log or something... like all the changes and improvements:
Acer_ A500_4.010.22_COM_GEN1 Applies to all Android 3.1 Acer Official Updates, OTA or Leaked (installed yourself).
New Apps
Kobo
eBook store and eBook reader
Movie Studio
Video editor
Updated Apps
Youtube
Moved fullscreen button, HD button, play button, slower double tap needed to go fullscreen/back higher performance, Cache fixed and higher cache, doesn't stutters/chops/drop frames at start or when OSD shows up (volume, controls, etc).
Flash 10.3
Music
Better looking, UI improvements, it finally updates, Google Music Beta
MusicA
Better looking, UI improvements, lots, better "listening" (now it can identify Japanese music played through my phone, SWEET).
NFS Shift
Icon changed, now is more visible and have HD on it, who knows what else is changed
Improvements/Fixes
UI is faster, more responsive, doesn't stutters like before.
Wifi Icon in notification bar now shows net activity.
Support for ACC+ streaming (or whatever uses winamp in shoutcast radio streams).
720p videos play smoothly, some 1080p videos too (simple profile ones I think, needs confirmation).
New Video Codecs Support, now MKV videos plays with Mobo Player (didn't worked before).
Video intro for games pre installed now always plays (before they crashed, but didn't force close the game)
Auto-brightness works now, it just changed its behavior, its not longer "instant", takes a while.
Recurring Issues
Randomly waking up/screen turns on
Mic still SUCKS (srly did Acer even test it by recoding someones voice and playing it back just to hear how well/awful sounds?)
New Issues
GPS wasn't broken, now it is (can see 7 sats but only onle lock after 2min and really poor signal)... maybe has something to do with GEN3 now updated to GEN1 thus missing something, can someone confirm.
Youtube widget is micro and deformed, there is a fix here in XDA.
New bloatware, or at least more packet, includes 2 songs and 2 videos (maybe 720p haven't checked) to show off in retails maybe.
You can help to make this a lot more complete, please contribute, post your discoveries, findings or changes you noticed.
And finally excuse my crappy english, as you can easily tell its not my native language, any correction and recommendations are very welcome.
Reserved for more space (I got this recomendation from a friend thank you).
Plus bump
Google+
"Huddle" is installed when installing Google+, which does *not* cone pre-installed on 3.1 - sounds like you already had it there. Installing Google+ creates two shortcuts - Google+ and Huddle
Speaking of, if anyone wants a Google+ invite, dm me - I got a few to burn
Huddle is part of the Google+ mobile app. It's for group chats.
* damn, someone beat me to posting this by a few minutes... serves me right for not refreshing
I also updated the "Vache" way from stock 1.141.01_EMEA_GEN3 to 4.010.22_COM_GEN1.
One problem - now seems to be fixed - I had on 1.141.01 was the following :
Could only connect to our company (outsourced) Exchange-Server 2007 via IMAP whereby whenever I would forward a message, the forwarded-message would "loose" the original content when send. .
I did try and (bought) Touchdown TAB, which is great, but for some reason does not allow me to retrieve/sync older messages.
Marcher
speaking of the autobrightness
Seems to only work if I set brightness to a level in the middle and reboot. Once I touch the slider again no auto bright until reboot. Any fix for this anyone is aware of?
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Huddle is part of the Google+ mobile app. It's for group chats.
* damn, someone beat me to posting this by a few minutes... serves me right for not refreshing
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Lol quick post ownage
entropy.of.avarice said:
Seems to only work if I set brightness to a level in the middle and reboot. Once I touch the slider again no auto bright until reboot. Any fix for this anyone is aware of?
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After a while I noticed that auto brightness WORKS!!!, but its no longer "instanly", it takes awhile, give it a minute.
To test it try to put half brightness then turn on auto brightness, after a while turn off auto brightness and BOOM goes the light, so it works just changed its behavior bad auto brightness, bad
Thank you all for your contributions, updating ASAP!
I think two things mentioned in the OP *could* be hardware issues. I'm on my third A500 after returning the second one because the microphone would barely pick up my voice. This new one records my voice rather well, but voice to text is still a bit spotty (I blame the google servers for that). Another thing I have noticed is that the auto brightness on this unit actually works quite well whereas on the older unit it barely worked, if at all. I can change the brightness all the way up or down, turn the auto on and within a second or two it sets it to something more appropriate. If I cover the sensor the display dims, if I hold it towards the window it brightens. It works like an auto brightness should work. I still have 3.01 on the new unit and am waiting for the OTA update to come, whenever that is...
The second unit was manufactured in may, this unit is manufactured in april. I suggest if you have concerns about auto brightness and microphone, see if you can test another one at the store.
One question for those having issues with the microphone and auto brightness? Did you apply a screen protector? If so, was it a wet application type?
Rob
entropy.of.avarice said:
Seems to only work if I set brightness to a level in the middle and reboot. Once I touch the slider again no auto bright until reboot. Any fix for this anyone is aware of?
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My new A500 has an auto brightness that seems to work perfectly. I tried what you said and it still works ok. The unit I returned a few days ago had a bad microphone and the auto brightness didn't seem to work well - or at all.
Rob
URL for download the update.zip please...
You didn't read the 1st post did you...
Justray said:
First I want to thank thor2002ro for ClockworkMod Recovery and making flashing and updating fast, easy and safe, also vache for providing 3.1 update, sc2k for an easy and quick way to root any version of the A500, last but not least Interphaze Solutions (whoever he is) for the Acer Recovery Installer.
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We recomend you to do a back up first, update to 4.010.22 and after a while acer tells you theres a new update 4.010.30, thats it, you're updated and good to go, 100% stock... I still recommend a custom rom, they rock.
i want a google + invite
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i want a google + invite
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What does that have to do with Acer changelog?
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What does that have to do with Acer changelog?
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Nothing, a user here offered google+ invites... and thats it
Wow, .38 and .38 already out!!! come on guys what's changed?, anything new? what's fixed? please cooperate
I haven't updated yet, wroking, waiting to get home to get .38 and .39... they're here in XDA for download
I just rebooted my iconia and didn't started , as usually be calm and don't worry, after a second try it worked.... didn't even updated yet... I feel like using windows
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I haven't updated yet, wroking, waiting to get home to get .38 and .39... they're here in XDA for download
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I have a hunch that there might be a problem if these are available for download freely...
remember before when increment updates are specific to what rom you're currently started from ??
users might just download the latest "increments" ... I wondered if that might screw up their device due to incompatibility ( starting rom build number )
???
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What does that have to do with Acer changelog?
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I offered g+ invites by direct message - have plenty to use up and wanted to share with XDA. Op mentioned g+ apps, figured it was a good time to share some g+ love with the interwebsb
UnicornKaz said:
I have a hunch that there might be a problem if these are available for download freely...
remember before when increment updates are specific to what rom you're currently started from ??
users might just download the latest "increments" ... I wondered if that might screw up their device due to incompatibility ( starting rom build number )
???
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I'm quoting myself from another thread:
Well, I installed CWM, acer recovery, rooted and went from 3.0 (from stock 1.141.01_EMEA_GEN3 - 4.010.22_COM_GEN1) to 3.1 (.22), then unrooted to go for .30, rooted, got .38, updated (didn't need to unroot, didn't need to root again).
The history of my life
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And I think the issues (reboot frozen) was due acer recovery or CWM... software highly experimental is prone to fail time to time... And nothing that a factory reset plus unnistalling recovery and cwm doesn't fix. I think but don't bet on it.
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I offered g+ invites by direct message - have plenty to use up and wanted to share with XDA. Op mentioned g+ apps, figured it was a good time to share some g+ love with the interwebsb
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I appreciate your love
According to this PDF file from Acer Global...
http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...A TAB&Step3=A500&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=PA_7
Major change notices:
1. Support for EAS - Exchange Active Sync.
2. USB Host improvements:
a. USB mouse support with cursor.
b. MTP camera support.
3. Adds media CODECs for WMV/WMA.
4. Improves media player capabilities for MPEG-4 simple profile.
5. Adds 1080p HDMI output to HD display.
6. User agent selection in browser settings allowing you to force using
desktop view.
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Justray said:
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I just updated (from stock 1.141.01_EMEA_GEN3 to 4.010.22_COM_GEN1) IT works, no wifi issues, GPS now takes a lot to get location, and seeing a lot of performance improvements and fixes, was late and delayed 5 times but here it is and we are enjoying it.
Thus I wonder why no one even bothers to make a change log or something... like all the changes and improvements:
Acer_ A500_4.010.22_COM_GEN1 Applies to all Android 3.1 Acer Official Updates, OTA or Leaked (installed yourself).
New Apps
Kobo
eBook store and eBook reader
Movie Studio
Video editor
...
You can help to make this a lot more complete, please contribute, post your discoveries, findings or changes you noticed.
And finally excuse my crappy english, as you can easily tell its not my native language, any correction and recommendations are very welcome.
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I got the Android 3.1 OTA update last night. I'm in Australia and my new build is Acer_A500.4.010.40_COM_GEN1
Wonder what the difference is?
As well as getting Kobo (which I don't want as I already have Kindle) I also got Zinio in the update, which "allows" me to buy magazine subscriptions which I can't get on my Kindle because Amazon won't sell them to me in Oz.
So far (less than 24 hours) everything seems to be okay except that Kaiten mail seems to be stuck somewhere. Dunno if its related.
I see some people saying that they want ics on their phone way more and they are fine with honeycomb, and I just can't undersrand them.
I am waiting for the ics eagerly so the following bugs will be gone and more:
Portrait lag (choppiness). Its not just the home screen, but the whole system is not smooth when in portrait orientation.
Keyboard typing lag in the web browser. I know everyones aware of it, and very annoyed by it. But you want to keep honeycomb?? Dolphin doesn't fix the issue btw, at least for my case.
Music stop playibg when screen is off. I want to use the stock music player as its the original, and its easy to use also. And it looks good too. However, I just can't use it because of this issue. Why should I have to buy another music player app when there is already an app for that? I really hope this issue is gone in ics.
Horrible Lag when going back to the home screen after running heavy tasks. This is the most annoying problem for me with honeycomb, or maybe android itself (its been a while I had a froyo tabket, so I don't really remember).
With all these issues, which competing products with other OS don't have, do you still think honeycombs is fine? I certainly can't wait for ICS to be delivered to our Iconia.
EDIT: I forgot to mention about tge "more" part.
Ics is mostly update for unite between tablet and apps mostly for developing more apps for tablets and phones at the same time. If you are still stuck on honeycomb, we will be stuck with very few amount of apps that present for honeycomb right now. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I know that its confirmed that we are getting ICS, but just wanted to say my opinion on honeycomb, ics, and people who are fine with honeycomb on their iconia tab.
Thanks for listening to my rant
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I see some people saying that they want ics on their phone way more and they are fine with honeycomb, and I just can't undersrand them.
I am waiting for the ics eagerly so the following bugs will be gone and more:
Portrait lag (choppiness). Its not just the home screen, but the whole system is not smooth when in portrait orientation.
Keyboard typing lag in the web browser. I know everyones aware of it, and very annoyed by it. But you want to keep honeycomb?? Dolphin doesn't fix the issue btw, at least for my case.
Music stop playibg when screen is off. I want to use the stock music player as its the original, and its easy to use also. And it looks good too. However, I just can't use it because of this issue. Why should I have to buy another music player app when there is already an app for that? I really hope this issue is gone in ics.
Horrible Lag when going back to the home screen after running heavy tasks. This is the most annoying problem for me with honeycomb, or maybe android itself (its been a while I had a froyo tabket, so I don't really remember).
With all these issues, which competing products with other OS don't have, do you still think honeycombs is fine? I certainly can't wait for ICS to be delivered to our Iconia.
EDIT: I forgot to mention about tge "more" part.
Ics is mostly update for unite between tablet and apps mostly for developing more apps for tablets and phones at the same time. If you are still stuck on honeycomb, we will be stuck with very few amount of apps that present for honeycomb right now. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway, I know that its confirmed that we are getting ICS, but just wanted to say my opinion on honeycomb, ics, and people who are fine with honeycomb on their iconia tab.
Thanks for listening to my rant
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i dont have any of these issues. im running taboony 2.2 with richards 3.7 kernel (oc'd 1.5) and i use opera and maxthon browser.
Im guessing youre stock. But dont get your hopes up ics wont necessarily fix your bugs. it may just bring new more annoying ones along.
I don't have most of these issues myself and I'm running Kekinash's rather stock 3.2 ROM with the HoneyVillain 3.4 kernel. I'm not doing any over-clocking with the kernel either.
The only isssue i was having was the Music app problem, but resolved it by using the Music Player for Pad app, which is just night and day superior to the stock app. I would be using MPP whether I had a problem with the stock app or not.
Other than that, I'm still loving the A500 (with Honeycomb). Of course I'm interested in ICS, too, but I expect it to cause more problems than it will solve.
Can't say I've had any of these issues with mine (portrait doesn't seem as smooth, but I very very rarely use it in portrait mode anyway [only when an app forces me to] so can't really comment there..). Running latest lightspeed rom + thor's kernel, oc'd to ~1.4ghz.
Personally I'm loving honeycomb so far..
-Dave
Same here all works well.Op there is a chance you could have some rogue apps lurking in background on you
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Keyboard typing lag in the web browser. I know everyones aware of it, and very annoyed by it
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Nope, not everyone: I ain't noticing such.
Anyway, I know that its confirmed that we are getting ICS, but just wanted to say my opinion on honeycomb, ics, and people who are fine with honeycomb on their iconia tab.
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No one really cares, so yeah... I too just replied because I'm bored and can't sleep.
ICS is basically Honeycomb for phones, not much more man..
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i dont have any of these issues. im running taboony 2.2 with richards 3.7 kernel (oc'd 1.5) and i use opera and maxthon browser.
Im guessing youre stock. But dont get your hopes up ics wont necessarily fix your bugs. it may just bring new more annoying ones along.
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Opera and maxthon aren't as smooth when scrolling as stock or dolphin for pad. I tried them both. Opera is laggy especially when zooming in and out, and maxthos is just so annoying to use because of its choppiness when scrolling.
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ICS is basically Honeycomb for phones, not much more man..
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So you guys are saying that google will just keep the bugs as it is? I can't guarantee of course, but if google will do that, then I certainly have no faith in google anymore. Why would people buy an android device? What the hell. To root it and void warranty to use it properly or dig through the market to make the device finally usable where there are original apps wasted, or can't even get issues solved, like portrait lag, and just live with it?? Don't tell me to buy an ipad, because I already purchased this, and I don't want to sell it cheaper, and buy another device.
Anyway, someone mentioned music player for pad. I am using it also, but it has a lot of other bugs as well. The stock music player stops playing when screen is off. This app? It just stops suddenly while playing. Not often, but sometimes. And sometimes after I stop the music and later start it again, the sound doesnt come out, so I have to find my earphone, plug it it, and out again, to let the sound work. This is the apps problem. And its pretty glictchy when keep using. I don't want to buy Hive player, which is the only other alternate honeycomb music player, as far as I know, and Don't want to pay for apps (I just don't spend money on apps, and don't have too many apps either).
And I dont have that many apps that may cause the system to make my tablet lag after going to home scren after running heavy task. And I know its not just my problem. I have seen other people talking about it too.
If they still didn't fix these issues, google should just quit the android business. Yea I know, they won't quit, cause they are making tons of money out of it. But they can't even make it right. They dont have experience? Then they should recruit senior employees from apple or microsoft to make a better OS.
I'm never going to recommend android to any of my friends any more, because now i realize that there is nothing to recommend about it. Open source? Better working closed OS is much better in my opinion. Anyway, I have no reason to write this to people here but I hope google guys see this post somehow.
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I'm never going to recommend android to any of my friends any more, because now i realize that there is nothing to recommend about it. Open source? Better working closed OS is much better in my opinion.
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Dang. Perhaps a different rom, I dig my stock 3.2 rooted by ezterry. I do have a little lag, but I have no less than 9 widgets. If they're running maybe kill a widget or 3. Same for the live wallpapers. I'm certain that there are quite a few other things that you can do to improve performance.
I don't have an iAnything. Never will. And I have to say that you're right about the smoothness. Those suckers are pretty sweet. But I'll take my widgets, customization, live wallpapers, usb, hdmi, Flash, sdcard, and so on/so forth over that any day. And if I change my mind I'll remove those things that are slowing things down. I've tried it and the tab is like butter.
Sooo...
I wish you the very best on your (possible) upcoming iAdventure. Hate to see anyone go, and holler when you get back!
sw6lee said:
I am waiting for the ics eagerly so the following bugs will be gone and more:
Portrait lag (choppiness). Its not just the home screen, but the whole system is not smooth when in portrait orientation.
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Cant say about others here. But personally i am very seldom in portrait mode. Reading manga probably the only time i am in that mode, feel pretty smooth on stock browser. The only time i see any lag, is when system is switching mode. But that is to be expected, given the processor/ram and the resolution; it will take time to adjust but its barely a second.
I have dual 24" IPS monitor form dell with very high resolution, on a system running at 4Ghz/12gig ram with high end dual GFX. When i switch those monitor in portrait, even they take few sec to adjust and populate the icon on screen.
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Keyboard typing lag in the web browser. I know everyones aware of it, and very annoyed by it. But you want to keep honeycomb?? Dolphin doesn't fix the issue btw, at least for my case.
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Been a while i used stock keyboard. I am using Thumb Keyboard 4, it has a little lag, but only because its show possible suggestion of what you typing. And usually its just a few words behind my speed of typing. I use Dolphin browser, but i have had no problem. Also use Stock browser too. I leave link and multiple tab open on dolphin browser so i can get to them later when i have time, never had any issue so far.
sw6lee said:
Music stop playibg when screen is off. I want to use the stock music player as its the original, and its easy to use also. And it looks good too. However, I just can't use it because of this issue. Why should I have to buy another music player app when there is already an app for that? I really hope this issue is gone in ics.
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Had the same problem. Got the Music Folder Player (free), problem solved. And since i use headphone to listen to music, i dont really care if i can see album art and stuff. Other wise i would use stock player since the screen be on because i wanted to see album art and stuff LOL. Also got the Donate version of Folder Player, since i wanted to support the DEV.
sw6lee said:
Horrible Lag when going back to the home screen after running heavy tasks. This is the most annoying problem for me with honeycomb, or maybe android itself (its been a while I had a froyo tabket, so I don't really remember).
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Not sure what kind of heavy task you referring to. But i can run CF-bench, then switch to home when its done and have no lag at all... Or you can give some example of Heavy task you running, so i can test it on my system too.
I am running Stock 3.2 just modified for Root (Kekinash), with Thor's 3.7 Kernel. OC set to interactive 1504Max/608min. I didnt write the reply to prove OP issue wrong, just simply suggesting that there are answer to most of the problems just take time to find them, and the best part, you learn alot of new things as you try to find the solution of a particular problem.
That's one of the best part of Android you can make the OS work for you (some time and experience), compare to other Tablet OS that go out of there way to try to restrict you from manipulating OS to your advantage.
Not had any of these issues either with Stock 3.1, 3.2, Taboonay 2.2 or the latest Thor. Have had a little lag in the stock browser only in Facebook, but that's the page because it does it in every mobile browser except Opera.
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Anyway, someone mentioned music player for pad. I am using it also, but it has a lot of other bugs as well. The stock music player stops playing when screen is off. This app? It just stops suddenly while playing. Not often, but sometimes. And sometimes after I stop the music and later start it again, the sound doesnt come out, so I have to find my earphone, plug it it, and out again, to let the sound work. This is the apps problem. And its pretty glictchy when keep using. I don't want to buy Hive player, which is the only other alternate honeycomb music player, as far as I know, and Don't want to pay for apps (I just don't spend money on apps, and don't have too many apps either).
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Are you kidding me? You have looked at market, and Hive is the *ONLY* music player you can find? I reckon I could find dozens in a matter of minutes.. Personally, I'm using MixZing and it's working well for me.. I don't recall having any issues with the stock music app shutting off when the screen goes off either so I'm guessing that's a setting you've tinkered with somewhere (funny how when you change settings, the behaviour of things changes hey?)
Also, who cares if the stock app isn't exactly what you want? I'm pretty sure you select what programs suit *YOUR* needs to play music/movies/edit documents/browse the web/scratch yourself etc on your PC, and if you had an iPad I'm sure you would select the apps that suit *YOU* on there too - so what difference does it make? NO manufacturer is going to ship a device with exactly the applications you want, thats the whole reason that we are able to go out and buy/download those which suit our needs!
If they still didn't fix these issues, google should just quit the android business. Yea I know, they won't quit, cause they are making tons of money out of it. But they can't even make it right. They dont have experience? Then they should recruit senior employees from apple or microsoft to make a better OS.
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What exactly isn't right about it? I have a Motorola Atrix, I love the android implementation (because let's remember, thats what each of these devices ships with - another company's implementation of the android OS, not the bog stock "android os" from google) on there - straight out of the box without any modification it worked perfectly well.. And then I started tinkering and WOW! I could change damned near anything I wanted! FANTASTIC! But if that didn't interest me? NO problem, it shipped with a perfectly acceptable functioning system which well exceeded the performance of my wife's iPhone 4...
Almost every "bug" i read about, is nothing to do with android - it's do with someone's rom, or an error within an application - Windows applications crash, iOS applications crash, hell - even my old linux box used to crash from time to time when I started messing with things or running other people's software..
I'm never going to recommend android to any of my friends any more, because now i realize that there is nothing to recommend about it. Open source? Better working closed OS is much better in my opinion. Anyway, I have no reason to write this to people here but I hope google guys see this post somehow.
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What is it that you and your friends ARE looking for in an OS? Because honestly, if what you want is something that *never* crashes, regardless of what you try to mess with, or that doesn't have *any* applications that are buggy or poorly implemented.. then I don't know, perhaps you'd best start looking for someone to port you a rom based on my old Nokia 5110?
/rant!
I found a solution to the OP's problems Here!
Guaranteed to fix his problems!
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So you guys are saying that google will just keep the bugs as it is? I can't guarantee of course, but if google will do that, then I certainly have no faith in google anymore. Why would people buy an android device? What the hell. To root it and void warranty to use it properly or dig through the market to make the device finally usable where there are original apps wasted, or can't even get issues solved, like portrait lag, and just live with it?? Don't tell me to buy an ipad, because I already purchased this, and I don't want to sell it cheaper, and buy another device.
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An Android device is no different than any other electronic device or computer -- it's going to behave differently with different people. This is because of how each individual configures it, what apps they run, how they use it, even the environment (hot, cold, dusty, etc.) they use it in. No one here can say that you're not encountering the problems you say you are, but I can guarantee you that I won't be the last to tell you that I haven't encountered those problems.
I know you don't want to hear it, but if you want a turnkey system that minimizes the chance of encountering ANY problems, then you're going to have to go Apple. BUT keep in mind that you're going to have to accept some consolations with that decision, because Apple OS'es are very locked down so don't expect to be able to do much tweaking, personalizing, or customizing.
sw6lee said:
Anyway, someone mentioned music player for pad. I am using it also, but it has a lot of other bugs as well. The stock music player stops playing when screen is off. This app? It just stops suddenly while playing. Not often, but sometimes. And sometimes after I stop the music and later start it again, the sound doesnt come out, so I have to find my earphone, plug it it, and out again, to let the sound work. This is the apps problem. And its pretty glictchy when keep using. I don't want to buy Hive player, which is the only other alternate honeycomb music player, as far as I know, and Don't want to pay for apps (I just don't spend money on apps, and don't have too many apps either).
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Again, I don't have extensive problems with the stock Music app, but I have had ZERO problems with Music Player for Pad -- whether I'm running things from the widget or the full app. It's been flawless. Not disputing that you're encountering problems -- just saying that I am not and looking at the market rating for that app it doesn't appear that a large percentage of the app's users are encountering problems.
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And I dont have that many apps that may cause the system to make my tablet lag after going to home scren after running heavy task. And I know its not just my problem. I have seen other people talking about it too.
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I'm sure, but what percentage? You have to understand, people aren't going to come to technical forums like this and others and post,
"Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm having a perfect experience with my Android tablet and Android in general! LOVE IT! Thanks, Google!"
People come here to post about problems they're having. Even if 30 people post to a thread having the same problems you are, that doesn't address the millions of other users who are apparently not having this issue.
sw6lee said:
If they still didn't fix these issues, google should just quit the android business. Yea I know, they won't quit, cause they are making tons of money out of it. But they can't even make it right. They dont have experience? Then they should recruit senior employees from apple or microsoft to make a better OS.
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Okay, first of all, the way to a better operating system is not through Apple and definitely not through Microsoft. Both of those companies have had their share of stinker OS'es in the past (and present). I know it's difficult to look beyond your own experiences and needs, but the reason why Android isn't going to "quit the business" is because they are extremely successful and they are extremely successful because the vast majority of their users are very happy with the OS. Android is currently the most popular phone OS -- why do you think that should translate to them that they should "quit the business"?
sw6lee said:
I'm never going to recommend android to any of my friends any more, because now i realize that there is nothing to recommend about it. Open source? Better working closed OS is much better in my opinion. Anyway, I have no reason to write this to people here but I hope google guys see this post somehow.
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Again, I know you said that you didn't want to hear it, but I think you've suggested your own best solution -- you need to go iOS. And if you're using a Windows based desktop or notebook PC, I would recommend getting rid of that and going with Apple, too. That's not meant to be an insult in any way -- you just don't seem happy using Android, and what most of us consider to be a huge benefit of the OS (open source, tweakable, customizable, etc.), you consider to be negative or undesirable. Why keep a device that makes you so unhappy? Take a loss, and buy a device you can be happy using. Life's too short.
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Cant say about others here. But personally i am very seldom in portrait mode. Reading manga probably the only time i am in that mode, feel pretty smooth on stock browser. The only time i see any lag, is when system is switching mode. But that is to be expected, given the processor/ram and the resolution; it will take time to adjust but its barely a second.
I have dual 24" IPS monitor form dell with very high resolution, on a system running at 4Ghz/12gig ram with high end dual GFX. When i switch those monitor in portrait, even they take few sec to adjust and populate the icon on screen.
Been a while i used stock keyboard. I am using Thumb Keyboard 4, it has a little lag, but only because its show possible suggestion of what you typing. And usually its just a few words behind my speed of typing. I use Dolphin browser, but i have had no problem. Also use Stock browser too. I leave link and multiple tab open on dolphin browser so i can get to them later when i have time, never had any issue so far.
Had the same problem. Got the Music Folder Player (free), problem solved. And since i use headphone to listen to music, i dont really care if i can see album art and stuff. Other wise i would use stock player since the screen be on because i wanted to see album art and stuff LOL. Also got the Donate version of Folder Player, since i wanted to support the DEV.
Not sure what kind of heavy task you referring to. But i can run CF-bench, then switch to home when its done and have no lag at all... Or you can give some example of Heavy task you running, so i can test it on my system too.
I am running Stock 3.2 just modified for Root (Kekinash), with Thor's 3.7 Kernel. OC set to interactive 1504Max/608min. I didnt write the reply to prove OP issue wrong, just simply suggesting that there are answer to most of the problems just take time to find them, and the best part, you learn alot of new things as you try to find the solution of a particular problem.
That's one of the best part of Android you can make the OS work for you (some time and experience), compare to other Tablet OS that go out of there way to try to restrict you from manipulating OS to your advantage.
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I meant heavy task, say web browsing for a few hours, and when I go to home screen, it reloads the widgets, icons and everything again for maybe 3 seconds, and when I try to do something then, like open app drawer or scroll desktop or open another app, it is insanely laggy. Of course, it's only for 3-4 seconds, but it happens often, and it's very annoying.
WarbyD said:
Are you kidding me? You have looked at market, and Hive is the *ONLY* music player you can find? I reckon I could find dozens in a matter of minutes.. Personally, I'm using MixZing and it's working well for me.. I don't recall having any issues with the stock music app shutting off when the screen goes off either so I'm guessing that's a setting you've tinkered with somewhere (funny how when you change settings, the behaviour of things changes hey?)
Also, who cares if the stock app isn't exactly what you want? I'm pretty sure you select what programs suit *YOUR* needs to play music/movies/edit documents/browse the web/scratch yourself etc on your PC, and if you had an iPad I'm sure you would select the apps that suit *YOU* on there too - so what difference does it make? NO manufacturer is going to ship a device with exactly the applications you want, thats the whole reason that we are able to go out and buy/download those which suit our needs!
What exactly isn't right about it? I have a Motorola Atrix, I love the android implementation (because let's remember, thats what each of these devices ships with - another company's implementation of the android OS, not the bog stock "android os" from google) on there - straight out of the box without any modification it worked perfectly well.. And then I started tinkering and WOW! I could change damned near anything I wanted! FANTASTIC! But if that didn't interest me? NO problem, it shipped with a perfectly acceptable functioning system which well exceeded the performance of my wife's iPhone 4...
Almost every "bug" i read about, is nothing to do with android - it's do with someone's rom, or an error within an application - Windows applications crash, iOS applications crash, hell - even my old linux box used to crash from time to time when I started messing with things or running other people's software..
What is it that you and your friends ARE looking for in an OS? Because honestly, if what you want is something that *never* crashes, regardless of what you try to mess with, or that doesn't have *any* applications that are buggy or poorly implemented.. then I don't know, perhaps you'd best start looking for someone to port you a rom based on my old Nokia 5110?
/rant!
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I meant music player for honeycomb. These have controls in the notification bar, but other phone optimized music players don't have that, and while in an app, and you want to turn music off, you need to GO to the music app and pause it, and go back to the previous app you were in. This is why I don't use phone optimized music app on my iconia.
And the bugs I listed in my first post is all over the internet, so don't deny it. Maybe some few people don't have problem with it because they are running a custom rom, or using alternative apps.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/t...ic-will-not-continuously-play-sleep-mode.html
-Also, read description of Music Player for Pad and Hive Player on Market. They mention that their music player don't stop playing even when screen is off. They say that they changed a code or something.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15958
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jbm8QAS3DI
The bugs are all over the internet. You are saying that only very few people are having the problems I mentioned or any problems, and it's probably because of what they have done to the tablet. If you can't believe me, see the links I posted.
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And the bugs I listed in my first post is all over the internet, so don't deny it. Maybe some few people don't have problem with it because they are running a custom rom, or using alternative apps.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=17353
http://www.thriveforums.org/forum/t...ic-will-not-continuously-play-sleep-mode.html
-Also, read description of Music Player for Pad and Hive Player on Market. They mention that their music player don't stop playing even when screen is off. They say that they changed a code or something.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15958
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jbm8QAS3DI
The bugs are all over the internet. You are saying that only very few people are having the problems I mentioned or any problems, and it's probably because of what they have done to the tablet. If you can't believe me, see the links I posted.
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180 complaints across two threads = "all over the internet"?
Even if you count all 180 as being definite problems with Honeycomb, when you consider the number of Honeycombs devices out there and in use, 180 problems is statistically insignificant. As of October 19, a total of 3.8 million Honeycomb tablets have been sold. That's not even a percentage figure I can post here without using scientific notation. Statistically, it's WAY below 0.00%.
In skimming through the posts that you linked to, I did notice that most of the posts are about Honeycomb 3.0 and 3.1, with only a few posts at the bottom of each thread being recent and/or about 3.2. How many of the problems reported with 3.0 and 3.1 were fixed with the subsequent updates?
You also need to realize that Google is not responsible for the hardware -- it's the hardware manufacturer's job to make sure their hardware works with Honeycomb. It's like blaming Microsoft for your Dell PC running slow. That's not Microsoft's fault.
And you basically say that most people reporting no issues have likely solved the problems themselves by what they've done to the tablet? Well...do that as well and then you and the whopping 180 people won't have any problems, no?
I'm not saying that you're not encountering any problems with Honeycomb -- I'm sure you are. However, you're an insignificant statistic to Google, and there are soooooooo many people running the same hardware/OS who are not seeing any problems that it is highly likely that your problems are
1. A configuration issue.
2. Caused by a 3rd-party app.
3. Easily fixable by way of tweaking the configuration and/or using an alternate app.
Again, not saying that you're not encountering problems, but these problems are FAR from being as common as you claim. I would advise trying to figure out tweaks to solve your (apparently rare) problems, or you should resell the tablet and move on, and just consider Honeycomb to not be the OS for you.
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I meant heavy task, say web browsing for a few hours, and when I go to home screen, it reloads the widgets, icons and everything again for maybe 3 seconds, and when I try to do something then, like open app drawer or scroll desktop or open another app, it is insanely laggy. Of course, it's only for 3-4 seconds, but it happens often, and it's very annoying.
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I can completely understand few seconds here and there over time can lead to frustration, especially now that our tech are so fast and we not so use to waiting on every commands.
My only suggestion will be, and i dont know if you have already tried this. Try to get Rooted Stock 3.2 with diff Kernels. Personally i was surprise how much smoother thing ran compare to 3.1. I mean i didnt have any problems with 3.1, but after Rooted Stock 3.2 i started to see difference in response time on small thing and it was fast.
I am one of the silent millions, One hundred % happy with stock Three.two. No problems except sleep, but that will fixed. I just turn off. Hope you get working.
So, lets make a list of issues with this release:
1. Wifi from time to time crashes when enabling it, for example when you try to enable wifi it goes into "limbo state" where you cannot disable or enable it again.
2. Shazam/soundhound cannot identify songs if you play them from integrated music player.
3. The 3rd one is most hardest to explain, basically if application crashes "home" button does not work (in gingerbread it always worked), so you have to wait app to respond or wait about 30 seconds for android message, that application hung.
I'm seriously thining about returning back to gingerbread due to these issues, although battery usage is nice and gps work really impressive, but this release is very buggy
read the stickies - you know...the giant one right at the top of the screen that says
*******DO NOT Start any more New Threads on ICS*******
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544657
I dont care what it says, its not related to that topic anyway, I'm sure I'm not only one who has issues with this release and I think it would be a great idea to keep all issues in one forum thread instead on many threads in this forum.
I'll add an issue too: it has Touchwiz.
Exchange battery bug drain!
Before stating any issue at all, one should state whether or not they did a full wipe/factory reset, if you didn't, the problem is not the firmware, but the owner of the phone.
Of the three issues stated by the opening poster, I only have one, which is the lengthy wait if an app force closes, the other two are not firmware bugs, they are user bugs.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
If you are interested, I have wiped my phone before installing this release.
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I'm seriously thining about returning back to gingerbread due to these issues, although battery usage is nice and gps work really impressive, but this release is very buggy
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Agree with you there, just gone bag to GB as I am off on hols this week and can do without any hiccups for now.
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If you are interested, I have wiped my phone before installing this release.
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Do it after installing on stock kernel to be 100% sure
except for the occasional force close, I have zero issues (three so far, twice was gmail and lastly the PGA Tour App)
And I did test both Soundhound and Shazam while playing music, identified songs in less than 10 seconds
first of all, i did a full wipe before and after flashing, have no mods installed, just a bunch of apps.
for me, the biggest problem right now is email with social hub. in gingerbread, when i opened the social hub it was in the state i left it, mostly the email accounts overview, now it always starts on feeds, and when you click messages, it shows all accounts' combined inbox and it seems kinda buggy, because the number of new emails never match. notifications show 3 new emails, the social hub says there is 5 and upon opening, it looks like there is only one, because the combined inbox just does not work properly.
also, i set it to display the next message, once i deleted one, but no, it goes back to the ridiculous overview. and within an email there is no next message and previous message buttons anymore, they are only present in the email app, which, incidentally, looks like the social hub, but has completely different buttons, whereas on gingerbread, it was exactly the same (only that the social hub also has facebook and twitter, which is why i use it, to combine all messages in one place, at least if it works).
another bug i already posted in the release thread (but of course it was lost in between all the noob posts, "halp, mai pohne brokez") is that many menu items are way too long and disappear to the right, see attached screenshot. there are settings with checkboxes, and you can't even read, what you just activated/deactivated.
samsung should either make small blue explanations underneath or let those lines scroll through to reveal the right part.
also, after rooting, i could not restore my titanium backup, so i set it all up manually and even then, google play apps that install to the sd card by default, didn't work.
Solution: flashing back stock kernel. another piece of important information, completely lost in the release thread.
i never bothered before, because with the old bootloader and if you bring your device into bootloader mode using the jig, you never have a yellow triangle. (yes, even if you root your device and NOT use the jig afterwards, no yellow triangle).
the following might be specific to my device and not apply to yours, so it does not count as a bug:
when i bought the phone in june '11, it came with ke2 i believe, and it got incredibly hot while playing 3d games (gameloft etc.). non of the roms that came after that had that problem until la2, which also had incredibly poor battery life.
now, lpq has great battery life and does not really get hot, but once you play, while charging your phone, it gets as hot, as it never has before. yesterday, after 30 minutes of osmos hd, i couldn't continue, as my fingers hurt, touching the display and the phone's backside. on battery, i can play for hours without any temparature change.
(if anyone can confirm this, i'd be glad)
oh and before i forget:
@leftovermagic and the others posting while i write this:
the point of that sticky is to stop noobs from creating a new thread with the same topic, which is "lpq released". this is a bug collection and just like the "my first impressions" thread it is something different from the release message. as stated above, reported bugs get totally lost in that thread with hundreds of people too stupid to flash the rom in the first place.
if this thread were to be kept clean from comments and just be a collection of bug reports, it would be useful, general whining is not.
EDIT: oops, forgot the screenshot.
For me the big problem is that some games black screen after 1 minute playing, especially many gameloft games..
Not compatible with ICS yet?
Guys, to keep information somewhat organized and to respect lufc's sticky to not create anymore ICS threads, please discuss issues in one of these 2 existing threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544487 (preferable)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544557
This makes searching and keeping up with things much simpler.
Hi all,
Been on the forums awhile for my HTC EVO 4G, so I know the routine I've searched this forum as well as others but had difficulty finding the answers I was looking for. I purchased an A500 on Friday and was hoping that I had quite the bargain, but was surprised at the problems that the device has had right out of the box with regards to scrolling and touchscreen responsiveness. Here's the breakdown.
Problem: It seems that anytime I need to scroll the interface, whether it's in the Browser (stock, Firefox, Dolphin all had the same problem), in drop-down dialog boxes, or even in Gallery or main home screen, scrolling is inconsistent at best, and at worst, completely unresponsive. However, in the case of Facebook or Browser, when the behavior begins, if I put the tablet to sleep and immediately bring it back up, scrolling works just as I would want/expect it to.
Caveats: There is an app that I have used, called "Fluid Monkey", that is basically just a fluid physics simulator (free on the Market). Similar scrolling gestures does NOT have inconsistent behavior, the screen and interface are very responsive, so to me it implies it's not a hardware issue.
Steps Taken So Far: I've successfully rooted the device, installed Thor's CWM, backed up the stock rom, and installed Icylicious, as it seemed to be one that was very obviously supported by CWM (I didn't want to go too far in modding it should I need to return it for a refund). While it does seem that there is a bit better overall performance, I am still experiencing the same interface issues. I have also tried the three touch sensitivity settings, but haven't noticed a difference. I have also found the following things to try:
Using V6 Supercharger Script (supposedly supports ALL devices);
A particular tweak to framework.jar that requires the use of baksmali
I guess the short of it is, has anyone else experienced this same problem right out of the box? Is there a simple fix for this? I really like the device, but it was the last one in stock (clearance as well), so I don't want to take it back if I can fix it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!
I've had this problem before. The short answer is, it's probably a background process eating up CPU. Best idea to solve it is to do a clean install of your ROM (optimally one with as much as possible crap removed/deactivated, lightspeed is the extreme in that direction -- it is pretty much bare metal, though other custom ROMs are pretty good in that matter also and give a bit more user comfort), then install your apps, one at a time (or restore with TB), run the app, then see if the problem is there.
Another thing you can try is using one of the ICS custom ROMs (they won't screw up your bootloader, the original leak will) and see whether forced HW acceleration can do you any good...
Thanks haag... I had done the clean install of Icylicious (the ICS rom) last night after a full backup/wipe. Even during the first set-up process of setting up the time zone, it took me five minutes to get the drop-down to scroll up to my proper timezone. This was before any extra apps were installed!
Despite my initial assessment, I am starting to feel that the device is unfortunately doomed on the hardware side. I hope there's more suggestions I can try today, otherwise it's going back to the store.
I've seen many people here who are quite savvy with this little device, and I really don't want to return it if I can resolve the issue, but I'm running out of ideas... does anyone have any other ideas I can try, or is it an unfortunate lost cause?
Try Flexreaper R11 you won't be disappointed. Sounds like you are on an older version of ICS that had alot of touchscreen problems. You want to make sure you are on 1.031 or newer version of the leaked ICS roms.
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I've seen many people here who are quite savvy with this little device, and I really don't want to return it if I can resolve the issue, but I'm running out of ideas... does anyone have any other ideas I can try, or is it an unfortunate lost cause?
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I Would probably advise flashing a 3.2.1 rom, like Honeylicous. I believe he has all the garbage pulled out. This will give you a good base idea if there is a defect with the tab.
In your case, before you go messing around installing any more of the ICS BETA roms, think about it for a minute. Because you'll need to flash bootloaders appropriate to the rom on a couple of them. And this will just be more headache when you discover you indeed have a hardware issue, and have to go back to stock to return it. Remember that the ICS builds, are all Beta.
Try Honeylicous, or any of the 3.2.x roms without a whole lot of mods to them. Make sure you do your wipes and formats properly, then check for the defects. You want to make sure all traces are removed from the previous rom.
There are actually some stock rooted roms available.
I appreciate the suggestions! That was one of the reasons I chose Icylicious, it seemed to have fewer steps and requirements to install and mess with. I may try and backup my current set-up and load up Honeylicious and see if that helps.
Again, thanks all... I hope I don't have to reply further in this thread
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I appreciate the suggestions! That was one of the reasons I chose Icylicious, it seemed to have fewer steps and requirements to install and mess with. I may try and backup my current set-up and load up Honeylicious and see if that helps.
Again, thanks all... I hope I don't have to reply further in this thread
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No Problem!
Just make sure you follow all the instructions as far as wipes and formats. And... make sure you have a good recovery backup.
Hey,
I didnt know where i should Post my Bug Report so if its the wrong section dont hold back to tell me.
I'm currently using my Galaxy S2 for daily use and after flashing some Kitkat Roms Omni is in my opinion the most stable rom and with Nova + ART a damn fast Rom, so thank you very much for supporting my Device.
I dont know whats happening the last weeks but it all began with an Opendelta Issue, i wiped all Data / Factory Reset via TWRP and flashed the Rom completely new and OpenDelta still didnt work, it just said every day its all up2date. Now after a couple of days it is working again, dont know if it was a Server Issue or something else - at the official Omni Page no one post News so i have always to guess whats happening
Currently i found 2 Bugs, if you want to call someone you open up the Dialer and then the Button for the Numbers but after clicking it, theres nothing(Screenshot is attached). You have to go back and try it again then the Numbers are there. The second Problem is that there is no Zoom in the AOSP Camera App if you record a Video. My currently workaround is the Google Camera App, there all is working fine. Also there are some Issues with Apollo , freezing , doesnt update the Song DB etc. , dont know why its so popular - its horrible. Replaced it also with a 3rd party App - Omich/Rocket Player.
The last Problem is that not everywhere in the Settings the correct language is used, if you need some translation help im sure many users would like to help(including me) but that is in my opinion nothing critical .
...and sorry if my Text was hard to read, its not my native language but im working on it :silly:
Regards
Per the FAQ, this is not the place to put bug reports.
However, I9100 hasn't been maintained in a long time, so filing a bug report will be a waste of time. Support for this device is currently going to be dropped with Android 5.0, and if it receives 4.4 bugfixes, that'll have to come from a new maintainer as none of the former maintainers have time/motivation for the Exynos 4210 devices these days.
Some of the issues you describe with Apollo aren't Apollo issues, but the result of a very deep-down core bug that has a side effect of screwing up storage access. This bug has been known for nearly a year (there's a big thread disucssing it somewhere around here...) and still no one has found a fix for the root cause. In fact, it's one of the #1 reasons the device is getting dropped for L. (It will absolutely not receive nightlies unless someone finds and corrects the root cause.)
Hey,
Thank you for your response. :good:
I reported the Bug on jira and there is a workaround for the Dialer Bug: Setting The Animator Scale higher than 0.
The Drivers are the problem right?
pfxandroid said:
Hey,
Thank you for your response. :good:
I reported the Bug on jira and there is a workaround for the Dialer Bug: Setting The Animator Scale higher than 0.
The Drivers are the problem right?
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Well, there are three things you listed:
1) Dialer stuff - probably some sort of odd HDPI issue and/or graphics subsystem stuff. The Exynos4 graphics subsystem is why many developers don't want to ever touch the platform again.
2) Zoom in video - What resolution was Google Camera? Zoom has NEVER been available for 1080p resolutions on the Exynos 4210 family, not even stock firmware will zoom in 1080p
3) The storage issues are a symptom of a deep-down kernel bug that no one has found the root cause of. This is the #1 reason the device is getting dropped for 5.0 - there is no chance even if a new maintainer steps up that nightlies will resume until someone tracks down the root cause of this one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2612329 has more discussion (warning: It's long...)