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Thinking about purchasing the nexus one? Here is a breakdown for all T Mobile customers of what's required.
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If you have a family plan, shared plan, flexpay plan or corporate account you will need to change before going to purchase the nexus one from the link above. Once all the above items are removed/changed then you are good to go and can enjoy the upgraded discount.
Quote from Nexus site "You can choose to purchase the Nexus One from the Google Phone Webstore without service for $529 USD, or with a qualifying T-Mobile US service plan at a discounted price:
Nexus One without service: $529
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for new customers: $179
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are adding data plans: $279
Nexus One with new, 2-year T-Mobile US service plan for qualifying existing T-Mobile customers who are upgrading their data plans: $379"
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I only paid 179.99 but that's because i opened a new line of service and got a new number. Be aware that if you open a new line of service to get the 179.99 price you CANNOT cancel your other line of service early or you will have to pay a 200.00 fee for early termination. The only option you have is to switch it to a home phone plan. If you decide to go that route as I did then it is 10.00 a month. It uses your sim card and a router that you get from T Mobile for 40.00. You must have a high speed connection to use this option.
I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
Edit: Just saw your post in the other thread. I think what you're saying confirms what the T-mo rep told me earlier today. She said that if I switched from my old grandfathered plan to the Even More 500 plan, then I'd be eligible for the $179 price. Not that I'm going to do it... it's cheaper for me to stick to my current plan and buying the phone unlocked.
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I'm hoping you accidentally hit submit before finishing your post, cuz it doesn't make much sense to me.
I have been off contract since January 2009. How do I get the $179 price?
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Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
rantrav said:
Someone in another forum had the same issue and apparently he had to add another line. Once his N1 comes in he plans on canceling his old line and switching his number over to the new line. I can try to find that post if need be.?
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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That's not necessary, but thanks. I'd only buy the phone unlocked, because it will considerably cheaper than switching plans and being in a contract again. I'm really just curious because it doesn't seem right that if we're off contract with T-mo, we couldn't take advantage of the subsidized price of the phone. Theoretically we're paying higher plan prices every month because our original phones were subsidized. So if we're off contract, then we should have paid T-mo back for that subsidy and they should either discount our monthly rate (like the Even More Plus plans), or subsidize a new phone for us.
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Sorry, people on here seem to like 'hard evidence' that is only text from another person. I am sure that this has been the plan since the beginning. Google, obviously having the upper hand and being in control, is calling the shots on how this works. T-Mobile, being an underdog, was probably given first dibs with this being part of the deal. But, I do agree with you. I bought it unlocked and would have rather saved the money and updated my phone with current plan. The guys post was something about he had a "grandfathered" in plan and was eligible through TMO for the update but with it being through Google he wasn't able to.... I guess all we can say is 'okay' and mush on.
I would have bought the unlocked version as well but I'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well I hope anyways lol.
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
For people interested in the tmo family plans, here is some math.
Getting 2 subsidized phones over a two-year period breaks down to an extra $15 a month ([$180 x2]/24). 2 unlocked phones is $44 a month ([$530 x2]/24).
Looking at text and web family plans with no annual contracts, its $109.99 for 750mins, $119.99 for 1500mins and $139.99 for unlimited. This gives you freedom of picking your plans or switching to another carrier that supports this phone.
Knowing that if you get the subsidized version, you will be paying $160 a month plus the breakdown of $15 a month (spreading out what you pay up front for the devices) it comes to $175 a month.
With the unlocked device price breakdown at $44 a month, you can see you will save money if you buy the unlocked phone and use either the 750min or 1500min family plans as they will cost you $154 and $164 respectively.
This is a two year savings of $504 and $264!
uansari1 said:
Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I love the first post that clearly states "only new T-mobile customers are eligible to purchase Nexus One at the discounted price of $179." If thats true then why did I get one for 179.99, I've been with them for 7 years! lol
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Both of you should take a look at the discussion here:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=3c0fd3870ec370a8&hl=en#all
It doesn't look good for people who are existing customers, off contract and want to sign a new contract. Kinda ****ty if you ask me, but fortunately it won't affect me.
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I have a family plan with 4 lines so I had to break down and pay full price.... same when the G1 came out. Only reason is because i feel like this phone I will keep for some time. I hope. Google, I think, will be getting a lot of heat about this. I took a look at the link and there are A LOT of pissed off people on there. But GOOG does have the money to blow.
This is interesting guys
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=06a361e72a26b798&hl=en
ryanmo5 said:
i would have bought the unlocked version as well but i'm already paying the same amount as the plan that is required so took the discount and ran. I'm sure eventually there will be more plans available. Google is sure to take a lot of heat for it and will eventually crack...well i hope anyways lol.
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theyre all unlocked
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theyre all unlocked
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Oops lmao, I meant without service
I actually bought the unlocked phone for $530,-. I have another 6 months on my contract.
But this way, I'll be contract free, and am actually SAVING money now, because I had a G1 with Myfav600, which was $80,- a month.
And I never even come close to using my 600 minutes.
So the 500 plus plan is perfect for me. And I save $20,- a month.
And , when they get the Voip thing happening, I can use that as well, since I have a Google Voice number.
i'm a current T-mob customer with 9 mo left on my 2 yr contract i got with my G1, once i get some extra cash saved up i plan to pay the full price for the nexus one because for me at least i currently spend $53 a month on my service with t-mob and don't care or benefit to change it and if i could extend my contract and pay less for the phone by some amount it will still save me more in the long run by not having to pay for the dumb 80 dollar a month plan they force you to have by going that route
this is of course as long as they do not change their tune on how they are handling this before i'm ready to purchase the phone i.e. give me a discount of some amount to upgrade and keep my current plan or one very close to it
Im currently on the even more plus 500+unlimited text+Web
On flex pay. Iam so lucky i didnt sign a 2 year contract!
I just hope tmobile doesnt try to make me pay 80 if i buy the phone without a plan. Just going to pop in my sim from G1
I've posted this in a couple other threads but it should help here.
I'll tell everyone up front I worked for T-Mobile customer care for the last 4 years up until this past June and was a supervisor for the last year of my time there.
If you currently have a single line plan that is out of contract is qualifies through T-Mobile for the full discount but Google is giving you the price that is almost $400 here is what you can do it get around it. And change to the Even More plans prior WILL NOT fix this issue.
Alot of people are getting bad information from TMobile about what needs to be done because the reps were given almost no information about the ordering process. So most reps and just going with the flow to try and get people off the phone.
When you go to order the phone with Google select the option to add a new line to your account. It will give you the 179.99 price for adding the new line. Once the new phone comes in the mail call T-Mobile and cancel your old line and ask them to put a "request old number back" request to replace the new number with your old one. This takes about 24 hours to go through. During that 24 hours your old number will not work because you have to cancel it before you do this.
I know for a fact this will work but the rep you talk to may give you crap about doing this and not let you because they want to be a ****. If you're worried about that call and cancel you old line when you get the phone then call back and talk to another rep and tell them to put in the request for you.
Don't you have to pay the 200 dollar ETF if you cancel a line?
There's no ETF if the line has no contract. So if you add a new line to get the discount you can cancel the old one without a fee
Ah I missed that part. I am trying to get the 180 price and I only have a few months left on my contract and they won't upgrade it. They will let me add a new line of service though.
This knowledge comes after talking to 5 different T-Mobile reps.
The steps to get the subisidized price if you are a 22+ month "good standing" customer with a Family Plan of any kind (legacy, myFaves, Even More, etc):
If you have a Family Plan (myFaves, Even More, etc.) you *must* split all the lines on the Family Plan off to individual Even More plans. T-Mobile doesn't allow one person to have multiple types of lines on the same account, and doesn't allow one person to have multiple accounts.
Wait 2-3** hours for Google's system to replicate account data from T-Mobile. **estimated
Now that all your lines are on individual plans, you can use the steps on Google's site to modify an existing individual plan and then upgrade your phone.
Once you have received and activated your new phone on your existing number, it will convert your plan to the $80/mo Even More plan.
At this point you can call T-Mobile and have them add all your lines to an Even More Family Plan (not the Even More Plus Family Plan).
And if all this fails, she gave me HTC's support phone number: 888-216-4736
UPDATE: It appears I was a bit hasty in writing my guide. The steps above actually lead you to be able to upgrade your existing line with a $150 discount on the Nexus One, dropping the price from $529 to $379. To get the $179 pricing, you must select "Add a new individual line of service with a new number to my T-Mobile account." This will add a new line to your T-Mobile account, which you can then add back to your Family Plan, and remove your old line.
UPDATE #2: Google is now issuing a $100 refund if you went through this process and bought the Nexus One using the "upgrade" option for an individual plan to get the price of $379. That brings your cost to $279. I thought Google folks were supposedly good at math? :O
UPDATE #3: After all this nonsense, I found out today from T-Mobile that step #5 DOES NOT WORK the way they told me it would. You can't just call them and have them add all your lines to a Family Plan. Doing so within 120 days of your Nexus purchase will cause you to pay an ETF to Google, equal to the price difference between the $179 price and the $529 price.
My journey:
I started with 3 lines on a MyFaves 1200 Family Plan and was paying about $190-200 a month. I split this into 3 Even More 500 lines with Android data on 2 of the lines (my wife inherited my G1). Total cost per month at this point was roughly $200 still ($49.99 x 3 plus tax). I then bought the Nexus One for $179 ($229 with tax), which added a 4th Even More line for another $80/mo. Total cost per month now at $280ish.
Now, at this point I could have cancelled one of my out-of-contract lines, saving $49.99/mo for that line, dropping the monthly down to about $240/mo for my 2 old lines + the 1 new line from Google (3 lines total).
Instead, I cancelled the Google line, dropping the monthly back down to $200/mo, retaining out-of-contract status on all 3 lines, and eating the $350 that Google will charge me now. Had I kept their line for another 120 days though, that's 4x$40=$160 to keep that subsidized price, plus I am committed for another 2 years. At the same time, we are now signed up for the Even More Family 1500 plan with unlimited text/data/tmo-to-tmo/nights&weekends.
So at this point, I have the option (if I can explain all this math to my wife), of just buying her an unsubsidized phone upgrade for her and the other person on our plan, and drop to an Even More Plus 1500 Family Plan, which would cost us $125+tax/mo, for a total of about $150/mo. So basically in a year's time, we will have saved $600 on our phone bill, and that will buy each of them a very nice phone. Wish me luck explaining this to her.
Sorry to get everyone's hopes up. I think Google has shown that they can f*ck things up as bad as any big company out there (at least on a first try). Hopefully they will learn from it, and/or HTC will get into direct handset sales instead (like they should have this time anyways).
MORAL OF THE STORY: Save your pennies and just buy the effing thing unsubsidized. That or don't have family. Your choice.
FYI- 888-216-4736 is HTC's number
Cheers,
Kermee
Good to know. Now totally worthless, as they seemed to know less about it than Google.
As much as I hope this works even though I paid full price already and have a family plan, sounds like a lot of bull**** to go through lol... honestly, i have no problem shelling out 530 for a product of high quality and to a company that isnt all "me me me" (fu apple)... I am still a part of my parents account and i know my father would not want to deal with splitting the plan then jumping through all the hoops haha so im going to suck it up...
good luck to anyone who tries this though!
Everything is correct.
One minor thing is that if you change the plan to the Even More for 39.99 and don't add SMS and Data (10.00 + 30.00) for line ordering Nexus One, you will get a different prices from the $179.99. I have heard $279.99 and other prices.
After you have received your upgrade price of $179.99 call T-mobile and have them place you on an Even More Family plan of your choice (750, 1500, Unl) The line(s) that ordered handset will require the $30.00 data for duration of contract. Good Luck.
Feel free to ask any other Q's.
If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
Anartic said:
If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
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yes, that is the point of an unsubsidized phone, no contract binds
i am in the same exact boat as you, got a family plan, bought a phone (well worth the money) and now im happy
I went through this exact process to get the phone at $279. Make sure to remove any text or web/data addon ons on your plan as this will make the system only offer you the 379 pricing
Anartic said:
If I was to buy the N1 from Google unsubsidized, is it possible for me to continue using the plan I have without having to switch to that $80 plan? I'm on the Even More Plus Family plan btw.
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If you buy the unsubsidized phone, you don't have to even take it to T-Mobile. You could take it to AT&T and suffer with EDGE/GPRS data speeds, or Canada on Rogers (the HSDPA frequencies are the same as TMO).
Here's how I *wish* this had been handled.
T-Mobile should have issued coupon codes to customers in good standing 22+ months, regardless of Family or Individual Plan. When they issue the coupon code, your account re-ups for 2 more years, and the coupon works on Google's site to discount $150 for upgrades. That would have solved the whole mess.
Google, if you're reading this, PM me for job offers.
johnowa636 said:
Everything is correct.
One minor thing is that if you change the plan to the Even More for 39.99 and don't add SMS and Data (10.00 + 30.00) for line ordering Nexus One, you will get a different prices from the $179.99. I have heard $279.99 and other prices.
After you have received your upgrade price of $179.99 call T-mobile and have them place you on an Even More Family plan of your choice (750, 1500, Unl) The line(s) that ordered handset will require the $30.00 data for duration of contract. Good Luck.
Feel free to ask any other Q's.
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This works if the number you have doesn't have Android Data (mine did) which is required by TMO for Android phones.
You would have to go into account management and remove the stuff yourself after you told the system you're using a different handset (like the older Dash or something). Kinda like the process we used to follow to get $4.99/mo internet on the Dash.
so is it possible to skip 5 and 6 and just keep a individual plan?
because at the moment im on a family plan and are in good standing with tmo (had them since voicestream) but im moving out on my own and starting my own life since ive started college and want bills in my name on my own line.
so could i split my line from the plan upgrade it and just do the 80 dollar even more plan with them? while still getting the 179 upgrade?
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so is it possible to skip 5 and 6 and just keep a individual plan?
because at the moment im on a family plan and are in good standing with tmo (had them since voicestream) but im moving out on my own and starting my own life since ive started college and want bills in my name on my own line.
so could i split my line from the plan upgrade it and just do the 80 dollar even more plan with them? while still getting the 179 upgrade?
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I'm not sure about the 179 upgrade, but as for your family plan problem, I would suggest staying with the same account, just give the person that pays for the bill some money every month for your part of the bill. I do that with my cousin, so since our bill is $120 I only need to pay $60
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idk if someone else has asked this but does anyone kno of a way to get the nexus one for 180 on tmobile on a family plan? without buying it for 500 somthing>?
gamefan231 said:
idk if someone else has asked this but does anyone kno of a way to get the nexus one for 180 on tmobile on a family plan? without buying it for 500 somthing>?
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first of all this is the wrong thread place. this is
nexus one android development
now to answer your question
i believe you must get the special 70$ unlimited plan to be eligible for the upgrade
Please post in the correct place. This is for development.
Mods please move thread Tehran just reg nexus thread is where this belongs on development post come here
Any way. You need to have a line that is past 24 months and out of contract. Then seperate that line from family plan. Give it 2 days to reflect and then should get that price. Family lines are not eligible at all. Info is on Google's page.
Here is my question. I current have service with VZW. There tech support has finally pi**ed me off. They refused to replace my Tour that you cant hear on every other call not to mention the horrible vibration alert. So I have decided to say BYE-BYE to big red. I have read places on the net that you should be able to by new service on T-Mo with N1 on the single plan of course. Wait a few hours and then move it to a Family plan.
Is this possible for a new customer? I prefer not to dump $530 on a phone now but will if I have to. My other option is a MT which will be no issue. A coworker says go all in with Nexus. I agree the Snapdragon processor will be the difference. Thanks for the help. Cant wait for Jan 29 to move to a real from and leave Blackberry behind. I miss my modding days with my XV6800.
I'm looking into buying the Vibrant as my first Android device and I was comparing the pro/cons on getting it on Wirefly and from T-Mobile. So far, I can only see pros with getting the Vibrant from Wirefly so I have a few questions.
1. Is the Vibrant $99.99 instead of $199.99 because of the instant rebate or will I be charged extra later in my bill?
2. Is the $30 Unlimited Data truly unlimited, or is it capped at 5GB?
3. Should I still buy the warranty from Wirefly even though I plan to root my device?
4. I've heard that there is a way to get unlimited texts/minutes via Google Voice. If true, I have no need to get an additional text messaging and can get the minimal amount of minutes (500) available from T-Mobile. With that said, is there anything wrong with using Google Voice as my primary communication instead of T-Mobile?
5. Why are there different plans offered on Wirefly and T-Mobile?
6. Has anyone ordered their Vibrant from Wirefly and have any problems (billing, shipping, etc)?
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I'm looking into buying the Vibrant as my first Android device and I was comparing the pro/cons on getting it on Wirefly and from T-Mobile. So far, I can only see pros with getting the Vibrant from Wirefly so I have a few questions.
1. Is the Vibrant $99.99 instead of $199.99 because of the instant rebate or will I be charged extra later in my bill?
2. Is the $30 Unlimited Data truly unlimited, or is it capped at 5GB?
3. Should I still buy the warranty from Wirefly even though I plan to root my device?
4. I've heard that there is a way to get unlimited texts/minutes via Google Voice. If true, I have no need to get an additional text messaging and can get the minimal amount of minutes (500) available from T-Mobile. With that said, is there anything wrong with using Google Voice as my primary communication instead of T-Mobile?
5. Why are there different plans offered on Wirefly and T-Mobile?
6. Has anyone ordered their Vibrant from Wirefly and have any problems (billing, shipping, etc)?
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The Vibrant is $250 with a $50 mail in rebate to bring it to $200. I am assuming (but could be wrong) that you'll be out $150 with a $50 MIR through Wirefly.
TMo's unlimited data is just that, unlimited (within reason). If you're streaming movies from somewhere they're going to say "No, it's not really unlimited". OTOH, if you're streaming movies over HSPA you have other issues than worrying about your data bill. Best confine that activity to when you're on WiFi.
You will get unlimited texting with Google Voice, but not unlimited minutes.
If you go through tmo and get in touch with their loyalty department, they will give you a good deal especially if you've been a customer for a while... Plus you get the warranty through them and the insurance through assurian...
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tmobile has a soft cap on data at 5gb. What this means is that once you go over 5gb they throttle your data, they don't charge you more.
the unlimited calling though google voice no longer works, you can still do txt messaging for free.
I get to 10gb and I get a text saying my bandwith will be cut until next billing cycle. I have an older contract...still have Myfaves.
I just checked. My data plan is $34.99! Thats why I probally get 10gb before Tmob gets mad.
I did 7gigs last month... No prob from tmo... 5 last month...
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Not sure about Wirefly but Amazon has it for $99.99 With New Contract if you want it through someone you can trust.
Does anyone have any experience with getting phones on contract from Wirefly? What was it like.
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tmobile has a soft cap on data at 5gb. What this means is that once you go over 5gb they throttle your data, they don't charge you more.
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Oh, so thats it. They slow down your connection eh, well thats smarter/better than charging more imo.
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Not sure about Wirefly but Amazon has it for $99.99 With New Contract if you want it through someone you can trust.
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Is Amazon any good? I've bought other products from them, but I've never got a phone on contract through them. Any experience with them?
Go to a local frys in CA, they have it for $79.99 for new activations.
1. Wirefly requires sub-contracts that T-Mobile doesn't do. i.e. If you break contract/change plan within a set timeframe, Wirefly may charge you extra fees that T-Mobile would not (outside of the ETF). Typically it's better to go through tmo but if you don't mind the risk you MAY save some money with Wirefly/Amazon/etc.
2. The data soft cap is 10gb for everyone. The 5gb cap ONLY applies to USB data sticks. There is no surcharge for going over the 10gb.
3. Skip any warranty you have to pay for. Add insurance through tmo.
4. Only downside I can think of with depending on GV for voice/text is the reliance on data connection. If you're anywhere that has a spotty connection or roam on a different network you may be SOL.
5. Plans are the same, just worded differently.
6. I've heard of many problems with third-party dealers in general, but I'm a little biased towards the quality of corporate stores. =)
Wirefly is hit and miss. Usually to get said rebates you have to agree to certain standards and even then its hard to get the rebates. I work in a Tmo store and have had to fix issues made by wirefly. Plus like other people have said you will have to agree to a secondary contract with wirefly.
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Go to a local frys in CA, they have it for $79.99 for new activations.
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Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
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1. Wirefly requires sub-contracts that T-Mobile doesn't do. i.e. If you break contract/change plan within a set timeframe, Wirefly may charge you extra fees that T-Mobile would not (outside of the ETF). Typically it's better to go through tmo but if you don't mind the risk you MAY save some money with Wirefly/Amazon/etc.
3. Skip any warranty you have to pay for. Add insurance through tmo.
5. Plans are the same, just worded differently.
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1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.
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Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.
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1- if you are not eligible for a full upgrade good luck dealing with a third party, odds are once they see that they won't even talk to you, and all third party full no contract phones are more expensive.
5- No third party dealer will ever have plans that you can not get at a t-mobile store. You can get a plan without texts anywhere. If anything you get more flexibility at a corporate store because the employees will know what they are doing in the computer and may find you a better deal.
I mean this in the nicest way - you seem to have a lot of questions, you should probably go to a corporate store and let them help you. You could easily be taken advantage of by a third party dealer.
I bought my Vibrant from Wirefly, for an extremely early upgrade(after breaking my poor Nexus that Google gave to me for free ), and have been pleased with the experience. I felt the discount was extremely fair, as I still had almost a year left on my contract, and the order went through smooth and fast. Its actually the second time I've dealt with them(Ironically, the first was another Sammy phone which lasted me nearly 2 years before getting the G1). I honestly have recommended to friends Wirefly because of my transactions with them.
As others have mentioned, there is a secondary contract that applies to you keeping a fixed rated plan with T-Mobile, meaning if you had a 1000 minute plan, and decide to drop it to 500 before Wirefly gives you a thumbs up, they will start charging your card extra. If you don't do this much, you might find it to be a fair trade-off
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Link? There is probably an after rebate your missing because thats a steal.
1. This does affect early upgrades as well?
3. How does this work, you just go to a T-Mobile store and ask for insurance on your device or do you call them and they do a mo/ charge? How much?
5. True I guess, but Wirefly/non T-Mobile sites have more flexibility. They have an option to not have unlimited texts for an additional $10 which is unfortunately built into the T-Mobile plans.
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As mentioned, early upgrades are USUALLY a no-go with 3rd-party dealers.
Plan flexibility is definitely not more available in non t-mo sites. Call em up or pop into a store and you can find all sorts of options, not to mention the fact that they'll review what you actually use instead of leaving you with the guesswork.
In fact, before you even consider ordering one through wirefly, you may want to call up customer care and see if they'll help you out. They'll do a lot of nice things for loyal customers. Although even if they can't I would prefer to pay a little more and not have to hassle with a different company.
Tmo Rep here. If you already have a T-Mobile account and you are near the end of contract date, you can get excellent deals from the Loyalty Department. They have a lot of flexibility in pricing because their job is to keep you from canceling so usually they will give you really nice deals to stay.
In terms of Corp vs 3rd Party, it really depends on where you go. I've been to Best Buys where employees knew their stuff about phones and plans and I know of other corporate stores in my area where the reps don't know what they are doing.
If you are a new customer, try bringing that Wirefly price into a store and see if they will give it to you. "Technically" we aren't supposed to pricematch websites but go to the right store, they will do it for you. I pricematch stuff all of the time lol
nice to hear from rep. lol
Ok guys, thanks for answering my questions. Guess I'll just go to a store before I buy from Wirefly.
Planning to buy the MyTouch 4G off contract and use the Even More Plus plan.
Currently the Unlimited Text + Data + 500 Min = $59.99
But it looks like T-Mobile will be coming out with new tiered data plans on Nov 14th with no restrictions on smartphones and plans:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-adding-data-plan-to-new-data-lineup/
Will I be able to switch to the new data plan (ie. $10-15 for 200MB) once the new plan comes out (so $39.99 for Text + 500 Min.. and +$10-15 for data)?
Or should I just wait until Nov 14th to buy the MyTouch 4G?
One last thing: Are there any 3rd party retailers that will sell the phone off contract? Seems like most places I checked (wirefly, costco, Target, etc) all require a 2yr contract.
Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Costco will more than likely do an Even More Plus plan in which you buy the phone outright and open up a new account. You get more minutes and/or a cheaper plan in return. You usually save around $20/mo. The EM+ plans are contract-free. Costco still requires that you open up a new account with new phone number, which you can always terminate anytime. I did that with my Vibrant.
Well since the Even More Plus plan is no contract, you can get the unlimited data plan now and switch to the cheaper data plan later. Also your numbers might be wrong since both add up to $60 a month, and it wouldn't make sense to get unlimited and tiered data plans for the same price...
@floepie: I actually stopped by Costco today. Was told they will only sell on contract. I've purchased phones from Costco before. If I was going the 2yr contract route I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again.
@ArcticWolf91: Yeah the ability to switch is what I wasn't sure about since I've never been with TMo and am new to these no-contract plans. But most likely that's what I'll do. And yeah I had the pricing wrong..and looking at it now I think it'll only save about $5/month between the tiered and unlimited so not really worth it.
Thanks for the help guys!
You won't be able to use a full android phone with the lessed data plan.
They have two classifications -
"Media oriented" android phones aka mytouch 4g - $30
Basic android phones LG Optimus/Huwai - $10
According to TmoNews, the data plan restrictions might change on Nov 14th:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mob...w-data-lineup/
So you're saying even the T-Mo stores refuse to sell to you at full price? That's not cool. I would say go to BestBuy, but they usually inflate their off-contract price vs carrier MSRP so as to weed out non-contract sign-ups.
**EDIT**
Dude, i just went to Tmobile.com and you can buy it off contract for $449.99, plus sign up for the EM+ plan.
Why not do that?
Nov 14th 200mb data is 10, ultd is 30 for ANY phone... you CAN Chang to it whenever... its a promo so requires contract extension, but doesn't mess with equipment upg eligibility date... also tethering drops on the 14th for 14. 99
So I'm interested in the Motorola Atrix 4G from AT&T but their plans are expensive. I can get the almost the same plan from T-Mobile for $15 less a month though I don't like their Android phones.
Nation 450 w/Rollover® Minutes - $39.99
DataPlus 200MB for HSPA+/4G Smartphones - $15.00
Unlimited Messaging with Mobile to Any Mobile Calling - $20.00
Comes out to $75 a month, T-Mobile has basically the same plan here for only $60 a month. I already have my home phone and my TV through AT&T and have been a customer with them for almost 5 years. Would AT&T discount me at all for having, home, cell, and TV with them? Also would they compete with Costco for the price of the phone ($200 at AT&T, $120 at Costco).
Thanks to everyone for the help!
from my experience with att that would be a no. however can always give it a shot. talk to sales not customer service though.
i had an at&t store tell me the other day they wldnt sell a smartphone off contract it really varies from one person to the next at at&t u can ask one person and they will say no move over 2 feet to the next person and they say yes so good luck just ask more than one person at at&t likely to get a yes
Don't get your hopes up. It isn't likely. I am a 20+ year customer, and the person on the other end just humphs at that. No, they don't care about customer loyalty at all. I went for a captivate in nov and wanted to stick with my unlimited plan. No way, forced me to take the plan( without telling me). I backed out, gave them the phone back, and reverted to my old plan. They would not give me the old unlimited plan back, and at that time only thing they were doing was the 2gb max + $10 for the next gig for overage. I told them to forget it, I was gonna switch to a competitor and they said ok. I thought that was real crappy. My phone was hurting and I needed to move, so I went with the Atrix last week. I regret my decision already, and can't give them the phone back without a 35% restock fee, per the in store salesrep.
Plus keep in mind that they deny throttling service on non-Iphone "4g". Liars.
It varies on who you talk to IMHO. You might get lucky with a CS rep if you tell them you already have service with AT&T. Like I said YMMV. Good luck
Hello. I just felt the need to respond to this. I am a market manager for an authorized retailer of AT&T. I have five stores under my guidance. Yes, you can receive a discount because you have your home services with AT&T. To be quite honest though, it is not a steep discount, but it is a discount. If you combine the wireless and home services on the same bill, you will get a discount of $5 off each service. Also, depending on who you work for, you may be eligible for a discount as well off your rate plan, data plan and texting. For example...Bank of America employees receive 15% off of the primary line's rate plan, texting and data.
As for the cost of the phone, unfortunately no, the store you are dealing with will not match the $120 price for the Atrix. What I will caution you on is when dealing with purchasing a device outside of an AT&T store or the att.com site, you may (and I say may) end up with some weird things happening to your account. Also, be careful there is no fine print. For example...if you buy an AT&T phone on amazon.com and it is only an individual line...if you decide later you need a second line and try to do a family plan, well that doesn't fly with amazon.com. They will charge you an early termination fee because you got the phone at a much lower price through amazon.com then you would have at a store. Strange I know, but that's why I always give people this anology...would you go to a cell phone store to buy a car??? Then why go to somewhere that does not specialize in cellphones to buy one??? Just experience talking in this matter.
I will chime in on this post as well. The person you dealt with that took away your unlimited data was dead wrong. All the reps that work for me will tell you and have done it...if someone has unlimited data prior to the change last year and does an upgrade, there is the option to keep it. I take that as poor training from that reps manager. When we are going through our system to complete the upgrade, it will automatically try to change the unlimited $30 data to the 2gb $25 data. However, the rep has to hit "modify features" button and it gives them all the data plans. If the current plan has unlimited data, the unlimited data option appears. If the current plan does not have unlimited data, the option will not be present.
I'm glad to be a college student. My bill is like 83 dollars with tax and all now with the student discount they have. Its basically 15% off of the monthly bill.
it's really swell that the reps say no it would not happen with them, I appreciate that you feel that way, so did the people I dealt as they really tried to put the unlimited plan back. It wasn't them, it was corporate crap. None of them could get it to come back up as an "option" when returning the phone and asking to be put back just like i was before the transaction. I talked to two reps online and then one at the B&M store. They were all miffed also, but the fact of the matter is AT&T burned me, and 20+ years didn't mean sqwat. I have to stop now, or I'll start with them crippling capabilities on the phone, or throttling data when you exceed their threshold, or...